>voice actors strike failed badly to a point companies should just stop casting them for any further projects >Kotaku suddenly posts a article about bioware's issues during the production on Anthem, citing the problems of being a Dev >Voice actors start calling for game developers to become unionized >Implying it's about the devs and not the greedy VA using it as a scapegoat to get higher pay than the devs
Fucking EA, you know how to cause big ass problems from one fucking thing. Go ahead and mercy kill Bioware already and be the forerunner for telling these faggot VA to fuck off
Voice acting should be limited to what's needed for gameplay (a guard coughing to let you know their position or something like that), anything with extended dialogue and especially anything with branching dialogue should be text-based. VA's are a cancer on video games.
Mason Campbell
Isn't it funny how the most notable VAs are usually just random people at the company or real actors?
Jackson Lee
Many people in the industry are massive shitbags who haven't worked a real job in their lives and think that they're far more important than they actually are.
Seiyuus > Voice actors
Adrian Williams
Eh some good has come of voiced dialogue (What is a man, what am I fighting for, I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with light, etc).
Jackson Fisher
>It's almost like only a hand full of VA's are worth a shit while the rest are a dime a dozen Take some acting lessons maybe your situation might change
Voiced characters can be good sometimes, but they really shouldn't be a priority over the other workers first. You really can get just about anybody to do the same quality of work as most VAs and if you use the same person enough they'll get meme fame eventually. So, really it's best just to grab an IT guy for some lines and use him a lot instead of paying some pompous jerk.
Oliver Green
It's kind of hilarious to me how there's like one company in Texas that just hires random people who live nearby who so, so obviously can't act for shit and yet that's treated as the pinnacle of western voice acting for some reason.
Those are just memes based on how corny the voices were. Memorable but not an example of actual quality in any way (although at least the DMC line was probably meant to be like that).
Alexander Young
Its okay when Japan does the same.
Brayden Barnes
The one from RE 6, and the anime movies.
Jaxson Murphy
100%. Regular actors can voice act ell, but voice actors can't act for shit. As long as you get somebody who isn't actively bad, it'll be ok to everybody but the autists who care about this shit.
Eli Price
Does what?
Kevin Torres
Devs themselves unionizing wouldn't be bad though. Not that it would ever happen or that this isn't just an excuse.
Justin Smith
Only if you're in a field where the work is hazardous. Voice actors are fame whores who are afraid of studios hiring literal whos for much cheaper. That's why so many of them refuse to do anything except big-name projects. Bunch of entitled assholes.
Adrian Allen
They're the same shit you weeb
Henry Barnes
Pretty sure From picked random stage actors to voice DaS and the result was excellent.
Ryan Collins
Retard.
Caleb Morales
Don't listen to these people , if they unionize we'll have to increase the cost of new games to $120! Trust me. You don't want those pesky developers having any say in the company, they only want to make games-- err, I mean, they'll make it all SJW-y! Yes, that's it. Now be a good worker and keep your head down.
Smalltime professional VA here: VAs are paid shit and it comes with numerous healthrisks/problems. You wanna know why people like Jim Cummings, Rob Paulson, Tara Strong etc. are in everything? It's because you get paid next to nothing and you have to do a million things nonstop unless you're those cunts on Simpsons. The strike was very much needed and all the shit about them being "greedy" was manufactured by companies attempting character assassination.
Jayden Williams
I dont eat the ass of anybody sub-70 IQ
Dominic Butler
This would make more sense if I actually cared about VA in videogames. I dont, and I hope you fire them all or I wont buy your games piggy
Brandon Gonzalez
Most western VAs are garbage anyway. Fire the lot of them and let real actors voice shit instead of some fat fuck roastie from Texas.
Kayden Johnson
But Porky, unlike VAs game devs aren't members of a parasite industry, they actually have value
Ian Lopez
Shut the fuck up boomer. If you want VNs of endless text boxes then go to /jp/. If you want minimal no-dialogue games then go to /agdg/.
Chase Kelly
My father's in a union - he's a skilled worker and apprenticed when he was young, stuff that requires training and long hours. Voice Actors aren't like him, his hands are scarred and permanently swollen, his back permanently damaged and tired. Voice Actors don't do what he does, why do they deserve a union like my father? What kind of work do they do that's so difficult they need this kind of sway in an entertainment industry?
Brody Bennett
They’re in everything because recording games takes a few days at most and companies like to hire the same people over and over
The pay is shit but no-one buys games for voice acting. Lots of supply, little demand, no leverage equals low pay.
The VA strike was the longest strike in history and went nowhere. It was based in the faulty assumption video game voice acting was remotely like TV, film or commercial acting
Brandon Kelly
As if anyone would let you eat their ass, chicks don't like dorito grease down there.
Hudson Garcia
Voice actors actually have to get vocal cord surgery quite often due to overworking. Surgery that, if fucked up, can cause permanent damage to the thing that makes them money. They train, learn and do all kinds of things that take time, money and effort.
Mason Murphy
Is that why games released around 2016 such as Total War Warhammer doesn't credit most of the voice actors?
Blake White
>spend 4 years doing fuck-all because no one will decisively say "we're doing x" or "y is a bad idea" >waste most of your dev time on discussions that go nowhere I sympathized with having to use an engine that wasn't meant for RPGs, but the article made it clear that at least half of Anthem's failure was due to dev incompetence
Parker Morales
punch a commie
Brayden Ortiz
They permanently damage their voices, sometimes physical fuck themselves trying to perform a line. How is that any different? Or is someone only a hard worker in your eyes if they have scars on their skin?
Luis Torres
All workers are parasites.
Throats and vocal cords are just made up body parts and can't actually be damaged is what I tell them. Also, please tell your dad to leave that union. He never needed that guard rail or those safety goggles.
Everyone needed to unionise, do you know why 8 hours laws and Sunday holiday was mandatory? It's the bloody strike of our previous generations during XIX century that made it happen. Now everyone is spending time fighting each other, driving the wage lower and lower and the quality of product goes to shit. No one can work a proper job with constant timetable and penny wage, the final result is our games are shit and most of money go to marketing.
Ryan Ward
If I remember correctly, early on into the strike companies offered to give them many of the points they asked just to get it over with, but they refused to end it because they wanted 100%. The points that weren't given were the super stupid ones like royalties on sales numbers and stuff.
Carter Richardson
You're really sticking it to Polygon by depriving them of a single click, they will soon be done for.
I'm sorry user but we're going to have to let you go. You see, we can hire three shitposters from India who do the same amout of work for half the pay.
Anthony Wood
Why do americans like to go against their own self interests so much?
Matthew Hall
Why are you pretending that being against one union is the same as being against unions on principle?
Lincoln Bailey
holy shit time to rebuy all of Uncharted
Dylan Cox
Eat shit, when are VAs ever going to experience lay offs because their voice work was outsourced to some foreign country? You can find work with a sore throat, back damage is permanent - you can't work with that. Don't compare vocal chords to damaged tendons, they're not even close.
Lincoln Wood
They offered the same deal the union ultimately signed before the strike.
They wanted residuals, comparing it to TV/film. They were never going to get residuals.
My guess is there are now fewer union jobs as a lot of devs switched to non-union during the strike
Adrian Cruz
Because developers are always needed, unlike voice actors
Owen Hughes
Why do you think my self-interests are the same as those of somebody who needs the government to take care of them?
Michael Nelson
>Implying cheap voice acting from PC98 isn’t kino as fuck
Caleb White
lel muh daddy hurt his back so now all work-related injuries that are below this line I've drawn are all fake injuries and anyone with them is a snowflake who needs to toughen up. Be careful if you meet someone who lost their arm, they'll tell you that a broken back is totally manageable and not worth fussing over.
Juan Brooks
kill yourself
Logan Myers
I would if I was as pessimistic as you.
Jackson Clark
>porky allows gays, women and trannies to express themselves >also porky accomodates them in his businesses
How can a man be so based? Why do commies hate him?
Ian Gray
Hopefully you actually do research sometime, user.
Isaiah Watson
That was the dumbest fucking comeback lol
Bentley White
Person with damaged vocal chords can still go bag groceries, sure. Their back is still fine. Someone with damaged back can go work a call center. Their vocal chords are still fine. The point is being forced out of your trade and having regulations to prevent this happening prematurely.
Aiden Hernandez
Developers are still highly paid, but with the current situation of overflowing of cheap IT man-source from chinkland and pajeetland, it wouldn't be the same. Everyone need to unionise fast, or it'd be too late. Even better if the chinks and pajeets strike before us, because it would raise the minimum wage even more, but that's almost utopian dream.
Connor Evans
If the union had just wanted healthier working conditions nobody would have cared you mongoloid, they got greedy and people noticed.
Connor Wood
VA union is the same as that Hollywood Actors union, where they keep out new actors who can't afford the membership for the union because they can't get work acting. Actual people do manual labor, a VA can find another job - Voice acting isn't their only option.
Isaac White
I hope you get your way one day. I'll be laughing over from a place were getting fucked in the ass and shat from above isn't seen as a good thing.
Wyatt Roberts
Allowing those trans people to express themselves is easy when you refuse to hire them on grounds of "they won't feel comfortable".
Cameron Reed
Do you think any of the far lefties (i.e >90% of AAA devs in California) have been able to put 2 and 2 together and understand the outsourcing and unlimited immigration policies they've laughed at blue collar America for suffering under have come for their jobs now?
Dominic Rogers
>Even better if the chinks and pajeets strike before us, Can't possibly happen because there is an infinite supply of them and they would all starve days into the strike. Literally.
Brayden Barnes
You don't appear to know what vocal cords are or how important. Your dad's hurt back doesn't prevent him from working. He can always be a Wallmart greeter or a call center phone operator or something. Why doesn't he get a job driving a buss? Or in IT? Don't need your back to type on a computer. Sounds like your dad's just being lazy.
Ian Price
I mean, to be fair, no way in fuck would I be a game dev unless there was either a union, or 'video game dev culture' stopped being about overtime and herculean effort shit. I'll take my 40 hours a week with occasional on-call weekends, bonus days off whenever I'm called, and rare overtime work to the shit game devs go through.
Whereas other tech fields have to deal with competition from people who know what they're doing, Game Developer positions are constantly covered in low skill positions and have the "Video Game Culture" appeal that keeps them somehow getting new hires despite being shitty places to work.
I'd feel more for the voice actors if they were good, but the vast majority of them are barely better than anime dubs, which themselves are often worse than people who just do it on youtube.
When the VAs wanted royalties I laughed and was against them. Fuck off.
Glad devs/publishers just hired other people. Voice acting isn't that important. I don't care if it sucks that much and hearing different people instead of Yuri Lowenthal for the 1000th time is fine by me.
Jason Johnson
sound liek ur gay
Jace Rogers
I already have my way pal, I live in a capitalist country. Good luck with your communism, I'm sure it'll work on the next try
Logan Gomez
No they don't, they're too SJWed. Your American politics' fucking too much right wing that even fucking far-left of your is just our centrist-right
Cooper Phillips
>and it comes with numerous healthrisks/problems Like fucking what? At best you'd get a sore throat.
Not really, many chink blue collars strike recently but were put down by the government. But white collars' fucking pussy coward and happy with their gold chains that they didn;t try to fight.
Angel Martin
Reminder that Unions 100 years ago asked for basic safety requirements while working dangerous jobs. Unions today are asking for 7 week paid vacations with benefits.
Michael Hill
You sound like one of those faggots who post about only drinking water in gamer fuel threads.
ah yes, telltale went belly up because of, uh, the evil SJWs. not because of piss poor mismanagement. exactly.
Christopher Walker
You know how that could be alliviated? By not having a VA union and allowing anyone to voice act.
Jackson Rogers
Doing strange voices all day is very straining, man. You think tom kenny can just do the spongebob voice 40 hours a week? Iirc the union already has rules preventing them from doing more than 4 hours a day so they can rest their voices longer.
Cooper Torres
You don't know what unions are, do you?
Tyler Russell
>and allowing anyone to voice act. I would rather not youtube.com/watch?v=bangt7d9vGA inb4 "omg this is epic, like The Room, I want this fuck you"
Hunter Collins
>Iirc the union already has rules preventing them from doing more than 4 hours a day That's just pathetic.
Zachary Hill
>the union has to tell them to do this or they'd be so stupid and helpless they'd kill themselves working their job And this is why they need big government
Jaxson Perry
what am I looking for here, it sounds like any other US voice acting
Landon Taylor
unions are cringe simple as
Michael Butler
They died because they had a game succeed for the first time through sheer luck, and instead of using their brains and understanding this they thought The Walking Dead was some sort of infallible formula. After that they formed a million different teams, all with the same mission: to shit out TWD clones harder than any assembly line could possibly hope to. It turns out the TWD formula wasn't as good as they thought it was and the general public didn't really give a fuck past the first game, so they blew through all the cash they earned from that game and ended up dying.
Colton Watson
Basically to save money the localisers got family in to voice act. They had no direction either.
Zachary Myers
>this whole thread What the fuck is wrong with Americans?
youtube.com/watch?v=kVdlBxdqv8s Haha, yeah, 4 hours is nothing. What a bunch of whiners. It's for the people they're working for, not the VAs themselves, you dipshit.
Owen Scott
>tfw Nolan North is so good at his job that people complain he has no range because they don't recognize him when he does a different voice
You clearly don't know a thing about the VA union. After all it wasn't one born of a need to protect the workforce.
Logan White
should do that more often then, doesn't sound any different from any other american voice acting I've heard
Jack Reed
Yeah, looks like I was right.
Jaxon Morris
I don't know what you were trying to achieve with the SS3 Goku scene because you can hear the edited audio.
Colton Robinson
>Voice actors form union >Game devs just replace VA's with Katamari Damacy style gibberish or go completely silent a la Shadow of the Colossus >Next era of kinogaming is kicked off by greedy VA's
Cooper Baker
I'm not understanding why, because somebody put out a poor quality product, that is evidence a singular union should control an entire industry. They put out a shitty product and it was shit. The market reacts. Why do you require more than that?
Brandon Bailey
Yeah, they edited his whisper into a scream. Good catch, user.
Angel Peterson
So which big time VA are you?
Carson Stewart
t.retard
Jaxon Ross
>or go completely silent a la Shadow of the Colossus You didn't even play the game you dumbass bootlicker
"You aren't a X? Then how would you know about Y?" Goddamn, you must be fun at parties.
Hudson Rogers
Literally the most worthless part of a video game tries to strike.
Joshua Hughes
Also Katamari had fucking voice acting, what the fuck am I reading
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Did you expect a Yea Forums poster to play video games?
Nathan Foster
There's only one part that can be classed as a scream you moron and that's right at the very end. If you try for yourself it doesn't put any strain to do the rest.
Noah James
Sooo, why should they get more when the monkeys and designers get even less?
Luke Howard
Record yourself doing it, then.
Juan Roberts
You two do realise that Katamari originally didn't have any voice acting right? When it was brought to the west Damacy was given it but the other games didn't. Reroll also uses the original audio. Talk about not playing games.
Also he didn't say that Katamari never had it but that they should replace it with gibberish like katamari.
Bentley King
So you arguing that the other workers should unionize?
Bentley Wright
VAs in Japan can be idols, celebrities, or skilled actors. Unlike in the west, they don't consider voicing for anime or games to be below them.
Alexander Rogers
Not him but you do realise they can edit the audio's volume right? Most of that is a light hum on the throat.
Did you really think that they screamed at the top of their lungs while recording?
Nathaniel Watson
WHEN WILL BIOWARE SHUTDOWN?
fuck all the drama, this is the only thing i care about
Christopher Butler
What would that achieve? You'd still act as if I was straining my voice to do so.
Christopher Hernandez
If you wanna VA in Japan. You have to go to workshops and learn PR, idol training, dancing, singing because most VA will either have a DramaCD, promotional PR, and sometimes concerts
Hudson Rogers
Now do that for hours on end, day after day. It's easy right?
Luke Russell
bullfrog and westwood were small time compared to bioware and maxis so they'll continue to be milked for much longer
Nicholas Reyes
Scream quietly into a mic, then turn up the volume. See what happens.
Jason Jones
No. In fact they tend to work harder and without the aid of editing to mask their mistakes. They also know how to act too.
Hudson Anderson
I'm seeing excuses but not a lot of action, user.
Brandon Lee
>all 3 still working You're all traitors to your "cause".
Nicholas Robinson
>Now do that for hours on end user, that's barely a 20 second piece of audio and they can reuse those for other transformations and fighting scenes and you can even hear it yourself.
Jacob Thomas
Shut the fuck up. Despite what your governments did in the 60s to brain wash your parents parents to believe unions are a good thing. Voice actors deserve a fair wage get fucked America cuck facist.
Levi Howard
Voice acting isn't always bad, but it's absolute cancer to any kind of open-ended, choice-based game. See: Fallout 4.
Are you being retarded on purpose? Because that's not helping your argument in the slightest. But hey, if you want to give me the right editing tools then be my guest. I'll probably spend more time cleaning up the audio than actually recording.
Josiah Gutierrez
>using bethesda game as any kind of marker for how something cannot be done Lol idiot, they fuck up literally everything. They are no authority because they have no skill.
Matthew Cook
Audacity is free, try that. Should be more than enough for you, a guy who probably thinks "zoom and enhance" is real.
Brandon Harris
Good lord, of course you'd think audacity is good for this.
Jose Johnson
holy fucking shit you guys suck the dick of company's so hard you will never be rich get fucked
Austin Davis
VA's in Japan are well respected somewhat. They are a complete joke for anime/videogames in America to the point no one wants to sully their resume list with them.
Noah Ross
I was being sarcastic you idiot. Read the second half of my post.
Nathan Morales
Holy shit, you actually think he did that whole scene in one take.
Grayson Barnes
>they hired 300 people for no reason They absolutely had a reason, they wanted to shit out a bunch of games concurrently and needed the manpower to do it. The problem came from trying to make too many games too fast and over-expanding without really making a good profit.
Chase Johnson
What? No? The original argument about working 4 hours at a time. As in doing shit like that for 4 hours a day. Read the conversation or fuck off.
Chase Smith
No shit, it was just an example. Having to pay for VA = fewer lines overall = fewer options. It's a universal rule.
Caleb Richardson
>As in doing shit like that for 4 hours a day. Assuming multiple takes were done that's not even a half hour of work let alone 4.
Zachary Russell
>greatest voice acting in history was done on a file size budget and old commission agreements
Weird how you chose Fallout 4 as an example instead of New Vegas.
Aaron Howard
That's not how sarcasm works. Also the second part of your post is displaying more ignorance than anything else given editing audio takes up more time than the voice acting itself.
You really think VAs do a lot of work don't you.
Nolan Gutierrez
>As in doing shit like that for 4 hours a day. For most of their day they don't scream you moron.
Christian Bailey
>American politics is shifted right
Only if you chop off all the "unthinkable" ideologies and governments.
Furthest right a minor political party has ever gotten in America has been "Leave the people the fuck alone."
Jeremiah Walker
Have you seen DBZ? That shit is like nothing but screaming. Show your work, user. Where are you getting your information?
DBZ is not nothing but screaming. They don't even scream a whole lot in DBZ. More grunts and hiyas than anything.
Jace Hill
Oh no now I won't get to hear Troy Baker and Tara Strong voice everyone anymore :(
Isaac Nelson
>That shit is like nothing but screaming. Yeah and? The reuse audio and extend it all the time so from one good screaming take you could have audio for the next few years. Most of the actual work from VAs goes into regular talking lines.
Caleb Reyes
>Shut the fuck up. Despite what your governments did in the 60s to brain wash your parents parents to believe unions are a good thing. t. lazy fuck who has never worked a day in his life
Unions are shit and union bosses are a bigger cancer than greedy CEOs. They demand everyone go on a strike for a 5 cent raise, all while they extort millions of dollars for themselves.
Dylan Rogers
Do you have proof to back these claims of reused audio and "extended" lines?
Cameron Martinez
New Vegas had the decency to not make the protagonist voiced.
Angel Thomas
>dubfags
Justin Rodriguez
EA shills are in full force today huh
Charles Murphy
See You can hear when they slow down and repeat the audio when the SS3 transformation starts. 1:36 doesn't even try to hide it because there's a fade out and you can hear Goku's voice overlapping.
That said in the Japanese version each one is a different take without editing or slowing down. youtu.be/R4HrcxVa5Kw
Zachary Harris
I believe there's a mod that voices all the lines
Xavier Martin
The strike was aimed at AAA publishers, not anime shit you dumb weeb
Brandon Long
I don't hear any fading or overlap, just a shitton of reverb. That's likely what you're hearing.
Levi King
ew
Blake Murphy
>I don't hear any fading or overlap Then you might just be deaf. Because you can hear the two as clear as day since it's the only time it happens during the entire scene.
Parker Diaz
Gonna have to disagree senpai. VAs sometimes make characters more relatable and give personality
Ones that come to mind are Half lifes NPCs, JC Denton, system shocks audio diaries.
Michael Sanchez
>just a shitton of reverb. The fuck do you think reverb is? It won't suddenly create a second audio track if you use it you dumbass.
Jason Brooks
I rewatched it and heard what you meant. That's just bad editing. They spliced two takes together really badly.
Voice acting is actually dubbing. Dubbing refers to any voice recorded post filming. t. took a film class.
Blake Young
>britbong VAs are good meme Most British voice acting makes shitty Texas anime dubs look good by comparison, stuff like Souls and XB1 are the exceptions.
Gabriel Gray
>They spliced two takes together really badly. That's one single take repeated.
Tyler Garcia
Am I the only one that thinks that no voice acting is better?
The only issue that actually exists isn't whether or not dubbing in games should be a thing but why the fuck voice actors have such unwarranted self-importance about their role in the games they voice in.
Benjamin Powell
DMC5 comes to mind as a recent one
Joshua Perry
...
Carter Roberts
American dubs are bad.
Liam Wright
Don't try to slick you shit, that's not what that was referring to and you know it
Jonathan Roberts
Difference of cultures and Industry. In Japan VAs can have huge followings behind them and do lots of work along VA like Idols, talk shows, etc In the West VAs are a joke.
Strikes are so fucking dumb. Entitled cunts. Unions are cancer
Luke Scott
I'm only saying that for certain games. Nothing is worse than listening to Christina Vee do another dub for the millionth time.
Anthony Foster
This, the way baldurs gate did it
Ryan Gray
Yes? He's not saying it's bad.
Michael Nelson
Baldur's Gate had full voice acted scenes, though. Like paragraphs of people talking.
Jace Stewart
>when are VAs ever going to experience lay offs because their voice work was outsourced to some foreign country? Never because they're too valuable to be replaced like your shitty dad who probably has 8 pajeets ready and willing to get paid $1 for 10 times his work.
Aiden Fisher
They made wonderbread cost $4 per loaf.
Daniel Perry
You're severely overestimating how large a following Japanese voice actors get, it's actually pretty comparable to the "popularity" some more notable western VAs like Nolan North or Steve Blum have.
People who wank WRPGs in these kinds of threads have never actually played WRPGs.
Caleb James
You're right Code monkeys should unionize
Logan Morris
I mean, I know one guy who's definitely happy about that.
Camden Scott
>complaining when the post I'm replying to was already linking to Polygon Fuck off.
Brody Rivera
He literally didn't say a single thing in that article about supporting the strike though? He just said he was surprised that a lot of others were having problems negotiating pay, and surprised over the amount of people who hurt themselves doing the work. The dipshit who wrote the article put "he is joining in with the strike" at the end but Nolan seemed pretty indifferent about the whole situation from what he actually said, especially considering what he said at the game awards.
Owen King
agreed
Lincoln Torres
>but moooooooom! he did id toooo! fuck off retard your mother never tell you two wrongs don't make a right, so make sure to learn from her mistakes and wear a condom?
>your mother never tell you two wrongs don't make a right, Actually she did. >so make sure to learn from her mistakes and wear a condom Wearing a condom is haram.
Caleb Campbell
Dawn of War Basically any Warhammer game
Lincoln Hernandez
>Actually she did. Then listen to your mother and quit being such a bratty little faggot.
Charles Lewis
IT IS THE BAAAANNNEEEE BLLLAAADDDEEEE
Jackson Hill
The strike brought up a really good point about all that mocap stuff though. That shit requires a fuckton of physical energy and can be really dangerous if you aren't properly trained, it should really be left to the professionals. It can have benefits to the overall performance to have the voice actor do the mocap too like in Devil May Cry, but there's a reason DMC keeps casting former Power Rangers actors. They're used to that kind of physical stuff (being able to do cheesy shit straight faced really well helps too).
Jack Barnes
I'm gonna be real with you, Yuri is a real nigga and this seems more like him just doing it because he saw his friends doing it
the rest are faggots though
Julian Ross
>getting damaged vocal chords that are easily repairable is equal to almost permanent physical degradation on the body parts that matter based retard
James Allen
Unions are cancer
Oliver Phillips
>hiring 300 people for some stupid fake standard is somehow not poor mismanagement do you lack reading comprehension?
I agree in some cases, particularly for open ended RPGs. I think Fallout did it pretty well, most conversations are text, but for big important conversations they had the voices. In some cases though, voicing stuff out can be pretty cool and helps to immerse you. I remember when I first played GTA IV, I just respawns at a hospital, then I walked up to a group of NPCs standing in a group smoking. One of the women said "I have a cigarette for breakfast, lunch, and dinner" and I was pretty impressed by the fact these people were just talking like that.
William Reyes
You might want to do some research onto the downfall of Telltale before you zip to blaming diversity as the culprit.
Ian Young
Anyone can do voice acting. It just that people have this big idea that known voices should be put on the spot list instead of trying to fetch people that may have godly voices.
Are you saying that anyone can voice act or that some people should voice act over others? Which one is it?
Ayden Martinez
Fucking hate how cheap VAs think they're super important and have any say in development because they get casted a lot, the second they demand hire wages devs drop them for cheaper work, this applies to animation as well
Jason Williams
Yes I love it when talent is driven out to cut costs. This is always good and never backfires. Based CEOs for keeping those costs down, how else could they afford those yachts?
Jose Brown
You're little video games wouldn't exist if CEOs didn't have an incentive to make money
Jason Barnes
my vidyagames arent made by EA
EA games are for retarded brainlet cucks and niggers
Levi Bennett
Yes they would.
Luke Edwards
Voice acting needs to go back to being like Deus Ex. It managed to be dark and serious while also being unintentionally hilarious at times. It's so fucking good.
Games like Deus Ex are a fluke and they're surrounded by so many games with just dogshit performances that do not border on funny at all. Nothing is stopping a modern dev from attempting something bad like that, but saying that we should just purge all the great performances for the very small chance we get more games like DX is really foolish.
Wrong, voice actors play a part but Seiyuus are literally the human personification of that character.
Samuel Smith
Or you know we just don’t want higher prices for less content
Kevin Ross
Yes user how can we possibly afford to produce such quality lootboxes at such discount values while giving people breaks from screaming into the microphone?
Cameron King
They fucking would lmao
Ryan Morgan
Obviously they failed due to the overwhelming diversity of contracts they signed up for.
Brody White
we already pay high prices for barebone games
Alexander Brown
What great performances? The only ones that aren't bogstandard anime dub quality are shitty AAA games like CoD that spends millions getting actual actors, or decades old exceptions like LoK.
Carter Peterson
hopefully, this means we can cut back on VA all together
Glorious Nippon voice actors folded over 1000 times
Jace Williams
Excellent job answering your own question.
Nolan Cox
He's not kidding; they're basically another kind of Idol.
Every Japanese VA takes their job seriously because the audience has brand loyalty. You can literally sell a show on "The Main girl is Tomatsu" or "The bad guy is voiced by Wakamoto".
If Western VA's took their shit seriously, I'd want them to be paid more. As it stands, there's only a few that do.
Carter Howard
But I don't play shitty AAA games, and we don't have a time machine, so it won't affect decades old games. So that brings us back to our question, just what "great performances" would it affect?
Logan Garcia
Play more games instead of being a braindead "hurr all AAA game bad" neanderthal.
Luke Baker
No. Are you braindead? I don't care what that makes your dumb ass think about me. I don't like that garbage and I'm not going anywhere near it.
Aaron Garcia
This is your reminder that some of the best voice acting in a video game was done by one dude.
I'd like to watch some dubs that are on par with Naughty Dog voicework. Where can I find them?
Grayson Perez
Unless its supposed to be some cinematic movie title, there is no reason to hire professional voice actors when you can just use some random devs voice from the company or pull a friend into the studio for some quick recordings. At least that was how it used to be. I don't know about you guys but I get tired of hearing the same 12 people's voices anyway.
Levi Perez
I would be fine with a union if it was just to stop the unpaid overtime but it's going to go way beyond that.
Jonathan Flores
Are you serious? Troy Baker is in tons of anime dubs.
Do you seriously think he's some kind of one man acting God who carries entire projects independent of whose direction he's under all by himself? lmfao this is incredibly naive.
>masses brainwashed to be retarded from school >not only that have to compete with fuckers coming to this country and willing to be a harder bootlicker and fuck the standard