Will the PS360 generation go down in history as the ugliest gaming era?
It was essentially the first gen where devs were seriously attempting realistic visuals. The two 3D gens before that were too primitive hardware wise; so all video games automatically had a degree of stylization. Last gen was the gen where they really tried to make things look as real as possible, and as a result these games now look muddy and grimey as fuck. Western AAA games have especially aged like dogshit.
Assassin's Creed 1 is one of the ugliest games of that gen - compare the horse in that game to the horse in RDR1
Joshua Reyes
no, u.
Michael Jenkins
>It was essentially the first gen where devs were seriously attempting realistic visuals No it wasn't the first, not even close, you zoomer. Plenty of PS1 games were going for ultra-realism, see: RE, Dino Crisis.
Jordan Smith
To be honest with you PS360 games were all having PC ports, and those ports could be significantly improved.
Carter Ortiz
AC1 looks better than AC odyssey
Jeremiah Bell
Thats the consensus for early 3d games in that generation for pretty much everyone.
Nathaniel Martinez
>No it wasn't the first, not even close, you zoomer. Plenty of PS1 games were going for ultra-realism, see: RE, Dino Crisis.
Both RE and Dino Crisis were clearly stylized to make up for the limited hardware. You can see it in the character designs, all the characters had exaggerated designs with different color palettes to make them stand out.
>it's another "OP is too young to have known the PS1" episode
Jack Sanchez
Care to explain why?
Carson Martinez
>games went from having distinct styles to being filled with shitty faux-realism even when it didn't make sense Smash Brawl is the most blatant example of this
Lucas Brooks
Early PS360 games were ugly as fuck, sure, but later on thy learned how to properly use the hardware and stopped shoving that awful bloom into fucking everything.
I think you completely missed the point of the thread.
Michael Robinson
I can’t tell what time of day it’s supposed to be .
Tyler Morales
What about those games would not need to be realistic?
Isaiah Barnes
Im 24 and started with a NES old games suck dick
Carter Smith
imagine being a GWAPHIX fag
Carson Morales
Any game with a distinct style that doesn't go full retard > Any game with a "realistic" style > Any game with a distinct style that goes full retard Prove me wrong.
I'm 26 and I started with a PS1, but had W98 and a Megadrive during the time as well. New games are far worse, you're just a brainlet who can't see past eye-candy
>subhd, unstable 30fps, post process effects out the ass PS360 games are fucking ugly man.
Jonathan Foster
PS1 games look amazing, but N64 looks like absolute dogshit, don't lump them together
Brandon Taylor
ugly game, downgraded unity
Josiah Richardson
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Jace Rivera
PS1 games are too pixelated, I will have to disagree.
Ayden Myers
PS1 polygons are constantly Z-fighting in and out of each other while their vertices jitter and their textures warp. PS1 games only look good when you emulate to solve those issues and also apply some decent texture filtering.
Ryan James
As someone close to your age, go fuck yourself modern games are shit.
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The lack of proper z buffering, the lack of precise vertex transformations and the lack of proper texture mapping (even without advanced filtering) are all objective defects in the PlayStation's 3D rendering pipeline that make games look like dogshit. You can say you like them, but that just means you're wearing nostalgia goggles.
Caleb Perry
PS1 looks better than N64 except for the floating point errors
I admitted it's an objective defect, but one you can get used to, it still doesn't mean the games look like shit. It'd be like calling modern games dogshit because they don't have ray tracing yet, it was good for the time and has a unique retro factor. Still lightyears ahead of the N64.
The isn't just one problem though, there are at least three of them. The only games on the PS1 that hold up are the ones which sidestep the problems such as 2D games or games with lots of flat shading and simple geometry like Megaman Legends.
Matthew Gutierrez
Yeah. GTA4 without mods looks like fucking diarrhea .
Asher Hall
It's all about art direction and doing what you can with what you have. Every generation has beautiful and ugly games, there's more to it than just realism. When every game tries to look like real life, then every game is going to look the same.
They don't look the same any more than different countries look the same. Use your imagination.
Blake Diaz
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Tyler Butler
Whats the game above the bottom left? I can name all of them but that one with the white SMG I can't recognize.
Lincoln Brown
Yes, you won it!
Kayden Rivera
like this post or your mother will die in her sleep
Joseph Roberts
No, GTA 4 is a rather bad example too because Liberity City is supposed to look cold and grey, it's a stone jungle.
If anything, that specific era you have in mind still has some of the most unparalleled realism in games that for some reason game devs stopped attempting to perfect.
Far Cry 2 is still by far most realistic and immersive Far Cry. Crysis 1 is still most technologically impressive and frankly only relevant Crysis. Fucking, Mafia 3 is a fucking joke even comparing to Mafia 2, forget first one.
Nigh all games after 2006 were downgraded in some ways. Or the versions that were ported to the new consoles still couldn't match the 2004-2006 PC versions.
I'm pretty sure Mafia 2 was done with the old mid 2000's PC standards, which is why it was so much better.
Lincoln Edwards
>not liking Mafia 3 Umm, racist much?
Ethan Perry
Blacks are ok, but Clay is an actual nigger.
Nolan Adams
Just because GTA IV is a "muddy" and "grimy" looking game doesn't mean that every game in that generation is "muddy" and "grimy", you stupid fuck.
GTA V looks FAR, FAR better than GTA IV. And Halo 4 also looks amazing on the 360. Hell, even Halo 3 still looks really good I think - obviously it looks dated and older compared to Halo 4, but it still has some really cool effects like the Bubble Shield.
One of the most extreme examples I've found is Call of Juarez from 2006. It had DirectX10, vastly superior draw distance and features, then the next game was blurry ugly dumbed down console game.
Adrian Perez
I'm 22 and I can handle old games just fibe Granted we never had a game cube growing up, we had an old n64 and then got a wii on release. I remember really wanting to play pokemon xd:gale of darkness
Chase Walker
do you know what is concrete
Carter Thompson
>grey leaves >grey taxis >grey ads >grey sky
Andrew Ross
well gta iv probably was the muddiest and grimiest before the pc mods sorted it out
The PSX would have shat itself if it had to run games like Majora’s Mask, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, or Sin and Punishment. PSX was horrible when it came to fully-realized 3D environments.
Christian Reyes
>It'd be like calling modern games dogshit because they don't have ray tracing yet But lacking a new feature isn’t a defect, while not having the competence to design hardware that can handle polygonal models is.
Chase Sanders
Not having the competence to design hardware that can handle ray tracing is a defect by that definition
Eli Flores
>gay bagles >nearly laugh >realise its videogame >don't laugh
Grayson Harris
Literally nothing impressive about any of those games, PS1 won the graphics race of gen 5.
Isaac Morales
It’s not because ray tracing is a technique that A. isn’t always going to be used in every game because sometimes faked lighting will meet the dev’s needs and B. ray tracing is an “icing on the cake” feature, not a foundational part of designing a game Being able to render basic polygons in a 3D game is a must. While the PSX hardware is serviceable in this regard, it was woefully unable to match what the N64 could do with polygons.
Matthew Price
Hacks are not impressive. Anything full 3D is always more demanding than a cheap imitation of it.
Ryan Ortiz
Show me PSX games that have fully 3D environments on the scale of any of those games with even a fraction of their interactivity.
Easton Turner
You are making the mistake of thinking it's the hardware that matters instead of the results, and that "full 3D" is inherently superior
>ray tracing is an “icing on the cake” feature No, it's not. It's a whole new system that will eventually replace hacks altogether.
Hudson Hughes
what's the game in OP? that's pretty shitty looking desu
play saints row 3 OP, it's good
Josiah Jackson
>Depends on your definition of "reproduce" How about computing it at playable frame rates? You don't have any objective way to measure your PSX superiority yourself.
Mason Price
nah ps1 looks like shit
just compare any game both have
Luis Thompson
I was born in le wrong generaishun
Ian Gonzalez
see
Brody Ward
majora's is literally better looking than first gen ps2 games retard
lol go back to resetera to circlejerk over sony's 'nothing'
Carson Russell
nah the brightness is pumped up on that display to make megaman 64 look ugly
sony retards do that for some reason. neogaf should suit your tastes more dude
Levi Rogers
It will always be the ugliest for me for this reason. 7th gen games never looked good, not even on their release days. Though you're kind of wrong about it being the first time this has happened since unironically both 3rd and 5th gens had their fair share of wannabe-realistic sanser. Going by this pattern, get ready for 9th gen to really suck ass.
Bentley Hernandez
>nothing that N64 games had that PS1 games didn't Show me PSX game that could do what was done with Perfect Dark. Show me PSX adventure game with the size and scope of either Zelda game. Show me a PSX game with the sheer amout of post processing effects and particle effects of Sin and Punishment.
>Still not essential as evidenced by the tons of amazing PS1 game You can’t make a true 3D game without polygons, retard.
Jeremiah White
Did the brightness also smear the textures and lower the draw distance
Jaxson Taylor
>majora's is literally better looking than first gen ps2 games retard Now you're just being delusional
Mason Jackson
PS360 era games are gorgeous on PC. 6th gen games look good on console, 7th gen look best on PC, and 8th gen are ugly no matter what you play them on.
I'm 20 and I can perfectly play PS1 games. You're a fucking retard.
Owen Richardson
yes pump up the brightness on the pshit version and you will see
64 looks great on my display. that pic is messed up on purpose
Joshua Carter
No, ps1/N64 polygon based games are far more hideous than any other games in history. Absolute trash. Worst vidya gen in both graphics and controls.
Joshua Richardson
it is tho I know you don't believe me but you are a metacritic whore because the trannies bump the scores for sjw games and stuff check old reviews of ign64 and you will see
This desu. The Dreamcast blows their graphics out of the water.
Oliver Nelson
bro you weak. n64: mario kart 64, smash bros, star was pod racer are deffo playable ps1: cursory look through youtube tells me that p. e. pro skater looks fine. infact it's easier on the eyes than gta4 imo
Dreamcast games still look good. They're not as technically impressive as later PS2 games but they have high, stable framerates and high (for the time) resolution. As well as vivid colours and pretty good texture work.
Grayson Jackson
>messed up on purpose neogaf
Hunter Powell
Then you should kys yourself and go to /vr/.
Luis Moore
I did exactly what you told me to though
Anthony Wood
go back to youtube comment section mongoloid retard
Christopher Roberts
is that all you can rise on the brightness of the pshit version?
Isaiah Baker
It's brighter than the original N64 screenshot, do you literally want it to be a white screen?
Dylan Peterson
>it's brighter than something
are you really from neogaf I see the number of the setting on the display being the same doesn't mean the brightness is the same for different devices retard
Andrew Green
It's all about style. Muh grafix mean very little if everything blurs together. On the PS360, this was true with smears and bloom, and even on the current gen, it's true. I just started playing Horizon Zero Dawn, and even though it's graphically "impressive" for this gen, it still looks like a mishmash of overdetailed samey color palette when running through some woods. Designers need to think about where to apply graphical detail. It's just distracting to use it on every fucking weed around. But graficsfags want to turn up the graphics knob EVERYWHERE.
Brandon Lee
bloom/grey-era looked fucking awful yeah but still better than looking at anything going tru an RF cable
The snes and Gameboy color have better graphics than ps1/N64. They looked better at the time, and still look better today. Early 3D games were awful and succeeded on wow factor alone.
Tyler Kelly
I'm 29 and I can't play anything after 2009 it's just all fortnite kiddie garbage >this is how stupid you sound
i blame sony and Microsoft for that, they perfectly knew that they weren't able to push that aside from especial cases and demos, and because everyone fell for that meme now using interlaced is not an option and we have games running at high resolutions but looking and running exactly like the gen before
Honestly yeah most of the games of that era have aged horribly. Mostly in terms of visuals but the gameplay trends of that era were also shit.
Nolan Ward
Both 360 and PS3 have 512MB RAM, it's just that the 360 has unified RAM and the PS3 has it split between CPU/GPU. The main reason the PS3 runs multiplats worse is the shitty GPU with split shaders and the lack of any high bandwidth video RAM like the 360's EDRAM.
Asher Ward
>dude just clutter the screen lmao it looks good dude
thats late gen stuff my dude, don't you remenber early 360/ps3 were basically upscaled ps2/xbox games? same with ps4/one, destiny 1 looked and runned like a late ps3 game, all the early games were upscale remasters of old gen games. only now is that we can star seeing shit that actually represents what the consoles were capable of, and it already looks bad cuz pc looks much better
Yes. DLC, paid online, releasing broken hames and thinking it doesn’t matter cuz “hurr patches”. More data space in disk and better cgi led to all the movie games shit, developers talking online to morons led to them changing their games to pander to a mentally ill people whose prime concer for a game is who they can pretend to be fucking.
Remasters/re-releases as lazy cash grabs, games being on their 5th or 6th iteration in one console generation. Millennials now making games hence why most are shit. Games are now a focus group of things that people like in order to sell more, hope you enjoy this years iteration of open world game with RPG-lite quests and stats and whatever story they’ve stuck to it this time.
All the cringe motion control shit as they tried to play catch up with Nintendo and all those awful e3s. So much politics. Everyone’s playing the exact same shit as the media hyped you up for whatever the 5 AAA games of the year that cost the most to make are.
And it dragged on for forEVER. Nearly ten years with one console generation was bullshit. The generation that killed gaming, or at least for consoles.
Camden Sanders
that looks like moving the LOD from low to medium
Bentley Miller
>More data space in disk and better cgi led to all the movie games shit, You can blame the PS1 for that bro.
Jason Lewis
no dude there's no difference! looks EXACTLY the same
>install old game with securom or some bullshit >claws itself into the system so hard, it fucks up the master boot record when uninstalling in a way, i'm kind of glad steamworks and denuvo are here now instead. i'd prefer without, but it's a start
Henry White
His manwhore doujin was better.
Leo Rodriguez
don't feed the retard, it's not worth the effort
William Gutierrez
for being a gen diference, well yeah, it looks about the same user. ps1 to ps2 has more a difference
Jaxon Morales
hurr look at this previous gen engine with these plastered assets by a third party hire versus this brand new engine made for a system with 16x more RAM
retard compare it to the first horizon, it looks better than the second on the 360
Chase Hill
Plus people couldn’t port for shit when it came to PS3 there were always so many more bugs
nigga i just wanted to play worms mayem, not worry about what kind of dickbricker malware some "reputable company" tries to foist onto me. there's like 5 minutes every day where i feel like not everyone is after my ass and assets and that's when i get the idea to install older games without looking on the back of the box for warning signs of the nuclear fallout of software devellopment.
Jaxson Price
you can't trust publishers user I'm sorry you had to learn the hard way never run an old game without checking its copy protection and getting a cracked exe
Anthony Baker
How can you say that when games like sonic unleashed/generations, rayman origins/legends, ilomilo, sega all stars racing, catherine, persona 4 arena, bioshock, bayonetta, dark souls, gears of war 3, halo 4 etc etc were released lol