Will the PS360 generation go down in history as the ugliest gaming era?
It was essentially the first gen where devs were seriously attempting realistic visuals. The two 3D gens before that were too primitive hardware wise; so all video games automatically had a degree of stylization. Last gen was the gen where they really tried to make things look as real as possible, and as a result these games now look muddy and grimey as fuck. Western AAA games have especially aged like dogshit.
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I'm 19 and I literally cannot play ps1/n64, the games are soooo ugly
Thank god my first console was a gamecube.
kys my man
>locon picture
You're not 19, stop baiting.
Assassin's Creed 1 is one of the ugliest games of that gen - compare the horse in that game to the horse in RDR1
no, u.
>It was essentially the first gen where devs were seriously attempting realistic visuals
No it wasn't the first, not even close, you zoomer. Plenty of PS1 games were going for ultra-realism, see: RE, Dino Crisis.
To be honest with you PS360 games were all having PC ports, and those ports could be significantly improved.
AC1 looks better than AC odyssey
Thats the consensus for early 3d games in that generation for pretty much everyone.
>No it wasn't the first, not even close, you zoomer. Plenty of PS1 games were going for ultra-realism, see: RE, Dino Crisis.
Both RE and Dino Crisis were clearly stylized to make up for the limited hardware. You can see it in the character designs, all the characters had exaggerated designs with different color palettes to make them stand out.
Oh boy, is GTAIV a bad example.
fifth gen was and will forever be the ugliest gen
PS3/360 era = 256mb ram trying to push 1080p meme
No wonder why 99% of PS3/360 games run at 20fps and look worse than early Dreamcast games
I dont about that graphics wise, but as far as the overall package, it should go down as the second worst only behind the Atari 2600 gen
This
based graphicsfags
>Gta IV
>Ugly
Yes, absolutely.
>it's another "OP is too young to have known the PS1" episode
Care to explain why?
>games went from having distinct styles to being filled with shitty faux-realism even when it didn't make sense
Smash Brawl is the most blatant example of this
Early PS360 games were ugly as fuck, sure, but later on thy learned how to properly use the hardware and stopped shoving that awful bloom into fucking everything.
and RDR2, Mafia 3, Far Cry 5 among others
is this bait?
IV is a phenomenal looking game
>modded
I think you completely missed the point of the thread.
I can’t tell what time of day it’s supposed to be .
What about those games would not need to be realistic?
Im 24 and started with a NES
old games suck dick
imagine being a GWAPHIX fag
Any game with a distinct style that doesn't go full retard > Any game with a "realistic" style > Any game with a distinct style that goes full retard
Prove me wrong.
I'm 26 and I started with a PS1, but had W98 and a Megadrive during the time as well.
New games are far worse, you're just a brainlet who can't see past eye-candy
How is pic related "stylized"?
Just look at the OP screenshot retard
style has no merit on its own if it doesn't amplify substance.
>what kind of graphics you want
>just smear shit all over my screen senpai
>subhd, unstable 30fps, post process effects out the ass
PS360 games are fucking ugly man.
PS1 games look amazing, but N64 looks like absolute dogshit, don't lump them together
ugly game, downgraded unity
Explain how trap porn is not something a 19 year old would like, especially with todays meme lewd gay anime culture.
PS1 games are too pixelated, I will have to disagree.
PS1 polygons are constantly Z-fighting in and out of each other while their vertices jitter and their textures warp. PS1 games only look good when you emulate to solve those issues and also apply some decent texture filtering.
As someone close to your age, go fuck yourself modern games are shit.
That actually looks pretty good. Mod?
>meme lewd gay anime culture
The pixels make it feel rough and organic, instead of clean and sterile, and dare I say, soulless.
>z-buffer
Acquired taste, but I admit it's an objective problem. I would argue it does the same as above, but for animation rather than textures.
>texture filtering
Kill yourself retarded zoomer.
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>just grey my shit up senpai
based retard
it never looks this good in game because it's a down/upscaled image
What game?
Racing Lagoon
yeah that's how New York looks.
Vanilla IV has the piss filter most games back then had.
The lack of proper z buffering, the lack of precise vertex transformations and the lack of proper texture mapping (even without advanced filtering) are all objective defects in the PlayStation's 3D rendering pipeline that make games look like dogshit. You can say you like them, but that just means you're wearing nostalgia goggles.
PS1 looks better than N64 except for the floating point errors
I admitted it's an objective defect, but one you can get used to, it still doesn't mean the games look like shit. It'd be like calling modern games dogshit because they don't have ray tracing yet, it was good for the time and has a unique retro factor. Still lightyears ahead of the N64.
The isn't just one problem though, there are at least three of them.
The only games on the PS1 that hold up are the ones which sidestep the problems such as 2D games or games with lots of flat shading and simple geometry like Megaman Legends.
Yeah. GTA4 without mods looks like fucking diarrhea .
It's all about art direction and doing what you can with what you have. Every generation has beautiful and ugly games, there's more to it than just realism. When every game tries to look like real life, then every game is going to look the same.
They don't look the same any more than different countries look the same. Use your imagination.
And the award "Retard of the day" goes to this poster here!
Whats the game above the bottom left? I can name all of them but that one with the white SMG I can't recognize.
Yes, you won it!
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No, GTA 4 is a rather bad example too because Liberity City is supposed to look cold and grey, it's a stone jungle.
If anything, that specific era you have in mind still has some of the most unparalleled realism in games that for some reason game devs stopped attempting to perfect.
Far Cry 2 is still by far most realistic and immersive Far Cry. Crysis 1 is still most technologically impressive and frankly only relevant Crysis. Fucking, Mafia 3 is a fucking joke even comparing to Mafia 2, forget first one.
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Where did all the attention to detail go?
I read that trap doujin.
Nigh all games after 2006 were downgraded in some ways. Or the versions that were ported to the new consoles still couldn't match the 2004-2006 PC versions.
I'm pretty sure Mafia 2 was done with the old mid 2000's PC standards, which is why it was so much better.
>not liking Mafia 3
Umm, racist much?
Blacks are ok, but Clay is an actual nigger.
Just because GTA IV is a "muddy" and "grimy" looking game doesn't mean that every game in that generation is "muddy" and "grimy", you stupid fuck.
GTA V looks FAR, FAR better than GTA IV. And Halo 4 also looks amazing on the 360. Hell, even Halo 3 still looks really good I think - obviously it looks dated and older compared to Halo 4, but it still has some really cool effects like the Bubble Shield.
You're an idiot.
One of the most extreme examples I've found is Call of Juarez from 2006. It had DirectX10, vastly superior draw distance and features, then the next game was blurry ugly dumbed down console game.
I'm 22 and I can handle old games just fibe
Granted we never had a game cube growing up, we had an old n64 and then got a wii on release.
I remember really wanting to play pokemon xd:gale of darkness
do you know what is concrete
>grey leaves
>grey taxis
>grey ads
>grey sky
well gta iv probably was the muddiest and grimiest before the pc mods sorted it out
2004 was the last best year of gaming. Future looked so bright when Half-Life 2 was about to be released.
The PSX would have shat itself if it had to run games like Majora’s Mask, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, or Sin and Punishment. PSX was horrible when it came to fully-realized 3D environments.
>It'd be like calling modern games dogshit because they don't have ray tracing yet
But lacking a new feature isn’t a defect, while not having the competence to design hardware that can handle polygonal models is.
Not having the competence to design hardware that can handle ray tracing is a defect by that definition
>gay bagles
>nearly laugh
>realise its videogame
>don't laugh
Literally nothing impressive about any of those games, PS1 won the graphics race of gen 5.
It’s not because ray tracing is a technique that
A. isn’t always going to be used in every game because sometimes faked lighting will meet the dev’s needs and
B. ray tracing is an “icing on the cake” feature, not a foundational part of designing a game
Being able to render basic polygons in a 3D game is a must. While the PSX hardware is serviceable in this regard, it was woefully unable to match what the N64 could do with polygons.
Hacks are not impressive. Anything full 3D is always more demanding than a cheap imitation of it.
Show me PSX games that have fully 3D environments on the scale of any of those games with even a fraction of their interactivity.
You are making the mistake of thinking it's the hardware that matters instead of the results, and that "full 3D" is inherently superior
Polygonal models aren't a foundational part of designing a game either.
PSX can't reproduce N64 graphics, but N64 can vice versa.
Fully 3D allows many of the best remembered N64 games to be made. What are you talking about?
It is if you are making a 3D game, which was a clear distinction I made.
Pixar needs to drop this boring, overdone style.
Depends on your definition of "reproduce"
There is nothing that N64 games had that PS1 games didn't, except PS1 games looked better
Still not essential as evidenced by the tons of amazing PS1 games that are considered classics
>ray tracing is an “icing on the cake” feature
No, it's not. It's a whole new system that will eventually replace hacks altogether.
what's the game in OP?
that's pretty shitty looking desu
play saints row 3 OP, it's good
>Depends on your definition of "reproduce"
How about computing it at playable frame rates? You don't have any objective way to measure your PSX superiority yourself.
nah ps1 looks like shit
just compare any game both have
I was born in le wrong generaishun
see
majora's is literally better looking than first gen ps2 games retard
lol go back to resetera to circlejerk over sony's 'nothing'
nah the brightness is pumped up on that display to make megaman 64 look ugly
sony retards do that for some reason. neogaf should suit your tastes more dude
It will always be the ugliest for me for this reason. 7th gen games never looked good, not even on their release days. Though you're kind of wrong about it being the first time this has happened since unironically both 3rd and 5th gens had their fair share of wannabe-realistic sanser. Going by this pattern, get ready for 9th gen to really suck ass.
>nothing that N64 games had that PS1 games didn't
Show me PSX game that could do what was done with Perfect Dark. Show me PSX adventure game with the size and scope of either Zelda game.
Show me a PSX game with the sheer amout of post processing effects and particle effects of Sin and Punishment.
>Still not essential as evidenced by the tons of amazing PS1 game
You can’t make a true 3D game without polygons, retard.
Did the brightness also smear the textures and lower the draw distance
>majora's is literally better looking than first gen ps2 games retard
Now you're just being delusional
PS360 era games are gorgeous on PC.
6th gen games look good on console, 7th gen look best on PC, and 8th gen are ugly no matter what you play them on.
I'm 20 and I can perfectly play PS1 games. You're a fucking retard.
yes
pump up the brightness on the pshit version and you will see
64 looks great on my display. that pic is messed up on purpose
No, ps1/N64 polygon based games are far more hideous than any other games in history. Absolute trash. Worst vidya gen in both graphics and controls.
it is tho
I know you don't believe me but you are a metacritic whore because the trannies bump the scores for sjw games and stuff
check old reviews of ign64 and you will see
I'm not seeing it chief
This desu.
The Dreamcast blows their graphics out of the water.
bro you weak.
n64: mario kart 64, smash bros, star was pod racer are deffo playable
ps1: cursory look through youtube tells me that p. e. pro skater looks fine. infact it's easier on the eyes than gta4 imo
Dreamcast games still look good. They're not as technically impressive as later PS2 games but they have high, stable framerates and high (for the time) resolution. As well as vivid colours and pretty good texture work.
>messed up on purpose
neogaf
Then you should kys yourself and go to /vr/.
I did exactly what you told me to though
go back to youtube comment section mongoloid retard
is that all you can rise on the brightness of the pshit version?
It's brighter than the original N64 screenshot, do you literally want it to be a white screen?
>it's brighter than something
are you really from neogaf I see
the number of the setting on the display being the same doesn't mean the brightness is the same for different devices retard
It's all about style. Muh grafix mean very little if everything blurs together. On the PS360, this was true with smears and bloom, and even on the current gen, it's true. I just started playing Horizon Zero Dawn, and even though it's graphically "impressive" for this gen, it still looks like a mishmash of overdetailed samey color palette when running through some woods. Designers need to think about where to apply graphical detail. It's just distracting to use it on every fucking weed around. But graficsfags want to turn up the graphics knob EVERYWHERE.
bloom/grey-era looked fucking awful yeah but still better than looking at anything going tru an RF cable
>this game runs like shit reeee!!!
>wtf why did they downgrade it reeee!!!
The snes and Gameboy color have better graphics than ps1/N64. They looked better at the time, and still look better today. Early 3D games were awful and succeeded on wow factor alone.
I'm 29 and I can't play anything after 2009 it's just all fortnite kiddie garbage
>this is how stupid you sound
>The snes and Gameboy color have better graphics than ps1/N64.
hurr durr the post
I disagree about the GBC but the SNES is still more aesthetically appealing than the average 3D PS1 game. With better controls and gameplay too.
i blame sony and Microsoft for that, they perfectly knew that they weren't able to push that aside from especial cases and demos, and because everyone fell for that meme now using interlaced is not an option and we have games running at high resolutions but looking and running exactly like the gen before
360 is 512
literally ever multiplay runs better on 360
never trust faggotera
>looking and running exactly like the gen before
Honestly yeah most of the games of that era have aged horribly. Mostly in terms of visuals but the gameplay trends of that era were also shit.
Both 360 and PS3 have 512MB RAM, it's just that the 360 has unified RAM and the PS3 has it split between CPU/GPU.
The main reason the PS3 runs multiplats worse is the shitty GPU with split shaders and the lack of any high bandwidth video RAM like the 360's EDRAM.
>dude just clutter the screen lmao it looks good dude
>Pixar
Frozen is Walt Disney Animation Studios.
thats late gen stuff my dude, don't you remenber early 360/ps3 were basically upscaled ps2/xbox games?
same with ps4/one, destiny 1 looked and runned like a late ps3 game, all the early games were upscale remasters of old gen games.
only now is that we can star seeing shit that actually represents what the consoles were capable of, and it already looks bad cuz pc looks much better
so true! literally no difference here
Yes. DLC, paid online, releasing broken hames and thinking it doesn’t matter cuz “hurr patches”. More data space in disk and better cgi led to all the movie games shit, developers talking online to morons led to them changing their games to pander to a mentally ill people whose prime concer for a game is who they can pretend to be fucking.
Remasters/re-releases as lazy cash grabs, games being on their 5th or 6th iteration in one console generation. Millennials now making games hence why most are shit. Games are now a focus group of things that people like in order to sell more, hope you enjoy this years iteration of open world game with RPG-lite quests and stats and whatever story they’ve stuck to it this time.
All the cringe motion control shit as they tried to play catch up with Nintendo and all those awful e3s. So much politics. Everyone’s playing the exact same shit as the media hyped you up for whatever the 5 AAA games of the year that cost the most to make are.
And it dragged on for forEVER. Nearly ten years with one console generation was bullshit. The generation that killed gaming, or at least for consoles.
that looks like moving the LOD from low to medium
>More data space in disk and better cgi led to all the movie games shit,
You can blame the PS1 for that bro.
no dude there's no difference! looks EXACTLY the same
>install old game with securom or some bullshit
>claws itself into the system so hard, it fucks up the master boot record when uninstalling
in a way, i'm kind of glad steamworks and denuvo are here now instead. i'd prefer without, but it's a start
His manwhore doujin was better.
don't feed the retard, it's not worth the effort
for being a gen diference, well yeah, it looks about the same user.
ps1 to ps2 has more a difference
hurr look at this previous gen engine with these plastered assets by a third party hire versus this brand new engine made for a system with 16x more RAM
retard
compare it to the first horizon, it looks better than the second on the 360
Plus people couldn’t port for shit when it came to PS3 there were always so many more bugs
both are excellent games desu
>installs starforce game without a nocd crack
>wonders why his pc bricked
People still can't.
That looks great though.
because it took way longer to build an engine for the PS3, so third-party developers had to cut corners
nigga i just wanted to play worms mayem, not worry about what kind of dickbricker malware some "reputable company" tries to foist onto me. there's like 5 minutes every day where i feel like not everyone is after my ass and assets and that's when i get the idea to install older games without looking on the back of the box for warning signs of the nuclear fallout of software devellopment.
you can't trust publishers user I'm sorry you had to learn the hard way
never run an old game without checking its copy protection and getting a cracked exe
How can you say that when games like sonic unleashed/generations, rayman origins/legends, ilomilo, sega all stars racing, catherine, persona 4 arena, bioshock, bayonetta, dark souls, gears of war 3, halo 4 etc etc were released lol