I really really tried to play it bros. I bought it three years back on psn and every time I play it I just turn it off after 5 hours. Those fucking random encounters every two steps are the reason I normally don't like JRPGs, but I heard overall praise and until now, everytime I see some games recommend that fly under radar (like Planescape), they normally turned out quite good.
Is there any way to proceed in the game without having random encounters every 2 cm? Because I really want to play through that but I can't stand those fucking things.
I mean you can always emulate it and cheat, or just speed it up x3 during fights and blaze through them.
Liam Foster
Not really. The random encounters are the worst bit of Xenogears honestly, there's even platforming segments where encounters fuck you over. Gear combat is better at least most battles end quickly on Gears. I still think the game is worth going through in spite its flaws though.
Jonathan Adams
look up a guide for unlocking special combos and get the best you currently can and upgrade asap, you will oneshot almost every enemy in the game that way. or escape. or cheat.
Cameron Wood
Yeah or play something else. I can't fathom why you'd want to go through a JRPG if you have no tolerance for random encounters. If you think it's bad after 5 hours, wait until you're done with disc 1. If you just want the plot watch it on youtube or something, it's honestly not worth it if you can't deal with the combat system.
Nicholas Allen
Emulator. Use gamegene/gameshark codes for 3x less random enemy encounters, 2x xp multiplier. That should make it more bearable while keeping things balanced.
Logan Thomas
No, I like the combat, I just don't like that I'm forced to grind when I just want to walk to a house that's right next to me and there's 293274929470 encounters between it.
Bentley Barnes
>Platforming in a JRPG
Is this real?
How random encounters fuck up jumping?
Connor Davis
>How random encounters fuck up jumping? They disable the jump button when they're loading. When you're playing the game, you can audibly hear the dungeon music cut off before the screen transitions into a battle. During that short time, you physically can't jump.
> Those fucking random encounters They can be high in this game most of the time. 2 steps battle pissed my off but i still completed it.
Juan Gray
Kek, I remember that. For a brief moment before the encounter begins, the game disables the jump button. If you were running to make a jump, you'll just fall down. IIRC, when playing in the PS1 I would listen closely to the console to hear the CD drive sounds loading the battle ahead of time, to know it was coming. Using emulator savestates eliminate the issue altogether.
Gabriel Cruz
Just like every PS1 JRPG, emulate it and fastforward through all the load times and random encounters.
Why are kids these days so ignorant of emulation?
William Harris
Oh fuck me now...don't REMIND ME! i love the game but that part literately pissed me the fuck off playing it without a emulator.
Well, that's part of the deal with the combat system and it never really gets any better. Or you can do like that () user said and use gameshark codes.
Samuel Morales
It would only work if SE shared it with MonolithSoft, which will never happen.
Gavin Sullivan
Xenogears and Parasite Eve deserve it. But I really don't expect any modern JRPG studio, let alone Square, to do them justice.
Logan Watson
>don't like random encounter turn based jrpgs >buy a random encounter turn based jrpg because random anonymous text on an image board told you you actually might be retarded
Christian Gray
>unskippable slow ass text
Worst thing about Xenogears
Carson Torres
>Why are kids these days so ignorant of emulation? the vast majority of "gamers" are shallow normies who never dig below the surface and only play, or sometimes only claim to play, games so they can talk about them with others. when I pointed out that emulation has been free for over 20 years to my nintenormie friends back when the $80 "classic" emulators were released they all got super assblasted about it and started to straw man "expensive raspberry pi emulators" or some shit. it was bizarre honestly.
Jose Bell
>trusting squeenix >ever.
Those fucks didn't even let anyone from xenogears make way into XB2 DLC. They never going let monolith make a remake.
No, it gets everywhere mentioned as a flawed masterpiece and what I heard sounded interesting enough to pay 9,99 for it. I figured that it has re's but I would have never thought that it was THAT bad.
Ayden Jenkins
>They never going let monolith make a remake. Good. Monolith needs to keep making new games and not fall into the "remake" trap.
Brandon Jones
not OP but it's possible to overdo the frequency of random encounters.
Brandon King
You want square enix to remake xenogears? REALLY NIGGER? LET ME REPEAT YOU WANT SQUARE ENIX THE WORST COMPANY OF MAKING GAMES IN MODERN TIMES TO REMAKE A CLASSIC...GOOD? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! THEY CAN'T EVEN MAKE A OK FINAL FANTASY LET ALONE XENOGEARS LET ME LAUGH EVEN HARDER HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Isaiah Bennett
True, and completing Xenogears with todays graphics would be insanely expensive.
Jackson Sullivan
I don't trust the fucking anime weebs at Monolith Soft to make a faithful remake of Xenogears. Gears was fucking real man, it had heart and it touched upon real subjects without a stupid wink or forced anime bullshit like in all the horrendous Xenoblade games that followed.
Austin Roberts
animublade is perfect for cringy and retarded zoomers such as yourself
Daniel Barnes
Am I a zoomer when I was born in 93?
Josiah Reyes
Let me crush your dreams NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! When there so broke there eating trash out of a man's asshole they will remake it like hot garbage and sells 10000000000000000000 copys.
Jacob Allen
Well, the FF4 remakes were pretty good.
Eli Hernandez
EXP modifiers, replace ???? with something between 0000 and FFFF, I guess 0002 would be 2x but it might function differently. 8006DAC8 ???? 8006DB6C ???? 8006DD58 ???? 8006DA24 ???? 8006DEA0 ???? 8006D980 ???? 8006DCB4 ???? 8006DF44 ???? 8006D8DC ???? 8006DDFC ???? 8006DC10 ????
I don't think there is a make encounters more rare code but: 8009D64C 0010 shuts them off entirely
Gameshark format btw
Joseph Barnes
>93 lmao @ your life. You're basically the age equivalent of a manlet stuck at 5'11 height.
Caleb Cruz
Either poor bait or knows nothing about MonolithSof and Xenogears. The only thing missing from it is Soraya Saga.
Eli Howard
nice meme
Gavin Price
Xenosaga & Xenoblade are horrendous garbage.
Levi Moore
>loving the fuck out of Xenogears >get to the 2nd disc
I want to say that on the PS1 if you left the disc tray opened then it couldn't load random battles, and you only had to close it when transitioning to a new screen. I could be thinking of a different game though.
Samuel Powell
someone have a good youtube link where it shows all the story of tje game by cutscenes and all in a way that I can understand it? I would play the game myself but my pc cant handle ps1 most of the time.
Lucas Foster
Xenosaga & Xenoblade are horrendous hot pure triple aaa HOT GARBAGE NIGGER!
>that 15 second lag time it takes to load up the menu How did people in the 90's live with shit that slow?
Jason Flores
agreed, though I don't view disc 1 that harshly. It's just that it is in disc 2 where humans are lifting into the sky screaming to be become nourishment for God.
Xenogears is unironically a bad game. But it's still one of the greatest video game stories ever told.
Jordan Long
yeah babe ? crush my dream ? crush me?crush me?crush me?crush me? why am i still dreaming about Xenogears remake babe? i want they to fuck up the remake because this game was fucked up 21 years ago, ask disc 2
Connor Morgan
>lifting fuck I made that sound funny.
Grayson Robinson
More or less yeah, disc 1 felt like every other RPG I'd played except this time you had gundams along for the ride, then you hit disc 2 and the plot takes you through like three separate apocalypses back to back and I honestly can admit I never saw any of that shit coming.
Disc 2 is Kino. If they ever remake Gears, I hope they keep disc 2 exactly as is.
Chase Myers
Yeah, that's what I heard, this is also the reason why I bought it, I like extremely flawed games that were made with passion (Deadly Premonition and Drakengard would come into my mind) and were the flaws actually helping the game to make it more unique. But like I said, I barely played an JRPG with random encounters that often. It just turns the fun part, the combat, into a boring routine work.
Oliver Young
Too bad it amounts to nothing but a five minute slide show. A video game story is supposed present its most important story elements through set pieces and scenarios, not a few paragraphs on-screen.
Xavier Davis
>it's still one of the greatest video game stories ever told.
Xenogears' story is fucking garbage, and the cult-like praise it gets is completely misplaced.
It would take an entire college thesis to completely detail the awfulness of the writing, but here's perhaps the most damning example of Xenogears' atrocious writing: lparchive.org/Xenogears-(by-The-Dark-Id)/Citan/
The link lists the exploits of a certain character, who the writers obviously intended to be seen as sympathetic and one of the good guys. But because Xenogears' story structure is so ridiculously convoluted, with crazy revelations and shocking twists happening at every turn, examining the actions of that character for even a minute leaves one no choice but to conclude that said character is utterly despicable, because the writers had no qualms about twisting characters to faciliate their convoluted rollercoaster of a story. This is how the entirety of Xenogears' story is constructed: it's all style with no substance. All surface depth, appearing to be deep by name-dropping just about every philosophical and religious concept in existence, but exhibiting about as much understanding of those concepts as a 4-year old.
Another strike against the game is that half of it is missing. The second disc of the game is basically like having a friend tell you all about how amazing the game is while occasionally handing you the controller to fight some boss battles. I have no idea why people gave it a free pass while completely losing their shit over something like the Mass Effect 3 ending.
I think it's brilliant how they were essentially shut down on their budget and they still managed to piece together Disc 2 to finish the story.
The best segments in the game, i.e. System Id, the showdown in the holy land, and the finale are all in Disc 2 too.
Alexander James
I guess. But one thing disc 1 that absolutely better was timing of music tracks. When Omen and Flight played there in memorable scenes, it was absolutely PERFECT. In disc 2 however those tracks are played to death without variety. I feel that sound design is a big part of Xenogears' appeal and it is nearly palpable that disc 2 rushed the hell out of that.
Which is why this is the kind of game that's the best fit for a remake. It's a game where you can actually do it better this time around just by virtue of making parts like that an actual game instead of photos accompanied by text.
Xenogears is a zeitgeist, it embodies late 90s sci-fi anime and rpgs. What makes Gears and all the xeno games good is the attention to creating a complex fascinating world based on the aforementioned to explore through its narrative.
Lincoln Reed
>Little to nonexistent gameplay, which is also complete crap, worse than FF even, which is really an achievement in itself. >Horrible pacing, with hours of cutscenes only rarely interrupted by a few minutes of having control and actually playing the game, which still mostly consists of getting to the next cutscene checkpoint with some shitty battles inbetween, making the game more of a test of endurance than anything. >A completely butchered plot that jumps wildly from one scenario to another while also leaving tons of unfinished stuff, Kislev being probably one of the worst examples of this, especially since it gives you Rico, somebody who has no reason to join the party and effectively disappears as a character, to the point that even when Hammer comes back Rico is almost completely ignored and Fei gets all the spotlight. >Nonsensical or really cheap use of psychology and esoterism nearly on par with Anno's worst offering of that, Id and Lacan being probably some of the worst stuff in there. >An entire disc of "content" shoddily put together with scotch tape, leading to one of the most horrible finale of the time. You're much better off playing anything else, user.
>The best segments in the game, i.e. System Id, the showdown in the holy land, and the finale are all in Disc 2 too. Yeah, but those aren't the best parts of the GAME, they're the best parts of the STORY.
Tyler Cox
>your only reply is accusing the other poster of being autistic You're not doing yourselves any favors here. Why don't you address the points raised in that post?
>Why don't you address the points raised in that post? your autistic spam opinions aren't worth being addressed.
Anthony Clark
How about just calling him ACfag too.
Gavin Scott
The game definitely did NOT look like that on the PS1. You're obviously using some pretty hardcore sprite scaling and triangulation fixes on your emulator. Which ones are they?
Adrian Sullivan
>fuck why were these terrible ass ps1 graphics so charming. Xenogears look pretty terrible compared to other PS1 games, though.
Is it ACfag? honestly I don't give two shits about the various severely autistic children who post here, so I couldn't have identified him if I wanted to.
Tyler Bailey
People have, you're just going to ignore them and post this same shit again in the next xenogears thread like always.
Justin Baker
>your autistic spam opinions aren't worth being addressed.
>pointing out blatant holes in plot and character motivation >autistic
Nolan James
I don't think so, but lets just pretend it is.
Kevin Torres
>>pointing out blatant holes in plot and character motivation >>autistic reposting the same verbatim copypasta opinions hundreds of times over the course of months or even years is autistic, you literal autist. neck yourself.
Kevin Wood
Stop getting angry, just ignore ACfag.
Asher Robinson
I'm having the same issues in DQV.
Why do square RPGs give you such negglible amounts of exp? Why does a slime only give me 2 EXP when I need 5000 to get to the next level? I dont want to sit on the overworld and grind my ass off for hours on end just to advance with the story. and fuck even with 64X EXP its STILL a grind because your bumfuck party members always start at level fucking 1.
you playing the original? The remakes give you so many metal slimes that grinding shouldn't ever be necessary to progress. If you struggle with the early game, JUST
if you need 5000 xp to get to the next level, you're way past fighting slimes and need to progress in the game instead of grinding.
Jace Reed
fuck her until you die
Jose Bell
I meant it as an example, not literally. I'm at Zennith tower with the kids at level 64 and still feel underleveled as fuck.
Hudson Lewis
>next enemy approaches >hits you >critical hit >one hit ded >only means of recovery from death is trekking back to town to have them revived Yeah, what incredible game deigns this is.
Charles Thomas
>with the kids at level 64 Jesus Fucking Christ user you can finish the game 20 levels lower than that. The fuck are you even doing?
John Adams
>Playing Trash Quest
Ryan Young
>she is a girl so she has a pink mech I thought people said this game had brilliant philosophy on par with Nietsche and Kant?
>girl gets to color her robot >girl chooses girly color scheme wow, pretty deep.
Hudson Ramirez
>it had heart and it touched upon real subjects without a stupid wink or forced anime bullshit Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the plot be summarized as "boy meets girl, girl asks boy to go on quest with her and he agrees, girl and boy are found my futuristic super-army who reveal that girl is secretly the princess of a futuristic empire, boy dismantles entire empire to just to see the stupid fucking anime closeup of her smile before everything goes even more wrong and a one-winged angel hijacks the plot"
Adrian Campbell
>enjoy xenoblade 2 and xenosaga >still to this day cannot muster enough interest to even try xenogears I dunno. Even I feel like I'm only staying away from it to be contrarian at this point, but I just couldn't give any less of a fuck about trying it.
As for xenoblade 1 and x, they're just on systems I don't own.
