Cyberpunk

Why do you like Cyberpunk? Have you read anything better than the entry level (Neuromancer or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep)?
Why does it feel so real? Do you feel it?

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Neuromancer is so inconceivably shit book I sometimes have to wonder how this genre even lifted off as it eventually did. Probably because of the role playing game and some japanese animes.

Neuromancer isn't entry level cyberpunk, it is the only cyberpunk.

It isnt a genre, its just one trilogy.

It was the animes.

I didn't like Neuromancer

Snow Crash. Love the corporations are countries and some of the other aspects. Goes out on linguistical tangents and weirdness but it's fun in its way. Mafia controlling the pizza delivery service just makes the book for me.

I second this. Snow Crash was an enjoyable romp.
Then read "The Diamond Age" to see Neal Stephenson prove he can write hard cyberpunk too.

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Nope

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I like how ridiculous it gets
although some of its exposition nearly turned me away more than the average lines in neuromancer

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Noir with computers.

why is it making it noir-like always the best option?
Even like ruck and marty was elevated just just by being blade runner for like 4 minutes

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I like scifi in the specific genre that Philip D Dick briefly mentioned in Man In The High Castle. Sci fi is the consideration of alternate realities and futures, especially at the societal level. Good sci fi has to be a reflection of reality, hence the "science" in "science fiction".

But why cyberpunk is so popular is the vibe. Generally cyberpunk is read by people who enjoy dystopias and feelings of alienation, poverty and other such things.

Blade Runner will be seen as a utopia in 50 years

I love noir + any genre.

I dream of writing gritty scifi noir short stories.

Has anyone read a shadowrun book? is there a good one? i gor into cyberpunk by playing the pc game, both are bretty good

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you can always do it
don't fear to suck at it, every frist drafts suck balls

>I dream of writing gritty scifi noir short stories
What's stopping you, though?

do it but fr

Noir is the best genre for this set up because the "grim civilized urban enviroment in which you know that public institutions are proactively working for others interests, which while you investigate can make yoy bite a bullet around the corner and no one will bat an eye" vibes. Sounds like today but it's highly stylized so it's cooler.

i'm also full sad, i only need the gun now

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Chapters of Blindsight that take part on Earth are probably the best cyberpunk pieces i've read. Also Watts' short stories in that series like ZeroS and The Colonel are interesting, although depressing reads.

What's wrong with Neuromancer? I thought it was interesting enough, and impressively forward thinking for its time. Just finished mona lisa overdrive, though. And man, it was much weaker.

It's better as a visual medium T B H. You really need the fancy neon colours to convey the visceral and overbearing feeling of turbo-modernity.

There was this phenomenal little intro snippet by Sky for something. It was just aping the Bladerunner noodle eating, but the vendor slid a small bit of paper over the table to him; who, in turn, deftly snatched it up with his chopsticks and hid it in his soup. Very cute!

I feel I'd fail to pull of this cosplay. The moment I got the gun I'd start having second thoughts about the coat's colour palate.

i feel like i need to be good looking to rock that outfit

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>bringing a hardcover to the beach
goddammit. women.

Yes, otherwise you’ll end up looking like JP from Grandma’s Boy.

i'm curious about the trilogy, considering Gibson didnt know shit about computers kek but still wrote very compelling stuff

elaborate?

have any recomendations?

I tend to find it quite funny and relaxing to read but would rather read something like Cryptonimicon or its prequel series. Cyberpunk tropes tend to get old after a while and I find myself craving something more grounded/less wacky

Does anyone still read K.W. Jeter's Dr Adder?

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Tacky, outdated Cyberpunk
>Neuromancer
Outdated but still kinda relevant Cyberpunk
>Blade Runner
Romantic Cyberpunk
>Blade Runner 2049
>Well aged, relevant Cyberpunk
Serial Experiments Lain

(By Romantic, I'm referring to romanticized thematically, not necessarily romanticizing the world. 2049 is a story that could take place in Star Wars and still work)

Most of the genre sucks and it won't get better because of preconceived notions and general retardation getting worse

Any good modern cyberpunk book recommendations?

I looked up some of em, but i would like some feedback on any modern ones. Maybe some after 2010, i want something that would have todays tech and hackers in it.

Anyone read something like what i described?

Self-loathing and my lack of skill/knowledge

Anyone read Difference Engine? Just got it from Paperbackswap.

I thought it was lame. Steampunk sucks.

for anyone in love with this set up/genre, i highly and strongly recommend this series of videos, they cover the whole story of cyberpunk western media chronologically, books, movies, games, etc.

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youtu.be/KczJNtexinY

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Best documentary about cyberpunk tbqhwyf

Even with all it's problems i think it's still strong enough by being compelling as fuck, or at least it was for me

akira

it's fun. these were my favorites

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maybe watch Mr Robot i guess?

I love that aesthetic, simply. I preferred Burning Chrome tho

it's aesthetic is like at the same height of the concept itself
thanks anime

this is "i hacked into ur mainframe" the show. couldn't make it beyond the first few episodes because of how braindead they assumed their audience was.

have you tried manga/anime?

What do people think of Hardwired?

by walter jon williams of course

i totally forgot about reading blindsight. its pretty good.

I found this guide from a YouTube rec. It had a lot of good tips to make a cyberpunk outfit without verging on cosplay.
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>refuses to put in gravities rainbow
>only references dicks most normie tier books not ubik
Indigo is a brainlet. He also is a pleb that thinks the lion king did hamlets plot “better”

>expect cyberpunk
>get a Sumerian history lesson

I can see it turning out very different from what people envisage.

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i kinda like writing my cyberpunk with this kind of dark wear aesthetic rather than the regular cyber punk stuff

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It's comfy because it makes poverty more decadent.

I watched parts 1 and 2 and although it's entertaining, you can tell it's coming from someone who primarily has a video game focus rather than a book focus. No mention of proto-cyberpunk books prior to Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (e.g. Alfred Bester's 1950s books, or Daniel Galouye's Simulacron-3). The only PKD works that get mentioned are the ones adapted as movies, which happens a lot elsewhere too, but those works are so over-discussed that it'd be good to hear about something else. In part 2 the only books mentioned are when a movie or game is based on one.
Also he uses 'beatnik' a few times to refer to some cyberpunk works, and I'm not sure what meaning is intended there.

to be fair, it's not a book oriented video, and cyberpunk has grown and being explored wider and better through movies and gaems, buy yeah, do you know any good vid or website focused on rec cyber punk books?

top fucking kek, my thoughts exactly