Have there actually been any books in the past decade or so that accurately portray how society is becoming more and...

I have friends but they're all guys and they know I have a hard time meeting women but none of them really know anybody. Half of them are basically the same as me anyway where they have no idea where to meet women for themselves, let alone help me meet some. I'm 26 so I'm years out of college as far as clubs are concerned.

Houllebecq is the premier incel novelist, read him. Submission and Serotonin are from the past 10 years, but all his books are the same. Misanthrope is sad, horny and angry, blames society.

sorry to break it to you but you're out of luck m8
maybe you'll get another chance at 35 or 40 with some fat divorced soccer mom or a 40 who is getting desperate after wasting her eggs

I have abs and make 6 figures why would I settle for a fat divorcee single mom

i'm sure your gymbros and coworkers are jealous of those
but what do you have that women care about?

What do women care about if not looks and money

sleeve tattoos and drugs

clout

Behead All Satans
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they care if other women care
so first thing would be getting rid of your incel friends and getting femoid friends

I'm not retarded enough to get tattoos. I used to do coke and Xanax but not so much anymore and that never really helped me get girls.

Where do you meet female friends? My friends aren't incels, they're all college-educated decent looking guys half of them have gfs but they don't really have any single friends.

>Where do you meet female friends? My friends aren't incels, they're all college-educated decent looking guys half of them have gfs but they don't really have any single friends.
I don't know why you rebuffed my earlier point about asking your friends to set you up, BECAUSE if they have girlfriends, their girlfriends have female friends. Their girlfriends would love to set you up with one of their friends or find you a match. For women, doing something like that is like the Bachelor in the real life. Just ask one of your friends' girlfriend to see if she knows someone who would date you.

>I'm not retarded enough to get tattoos.
fine, enjoy being single

Their gfs don't have any single female friends I've asked before and none of them really ever have anybody for me or if they do it never works out to the point of actually meeting. I don't think girls respect the idea of a guy who is "set up" with them. One time a girl I was set up with stood me up, other times the girls have never really been serious about actually meeting me or anything, another time the girl ended up getting a bf before I could meet her. This isn't a realistic solution. Most girls don't seem to have a lot of friends, or at least a lot of friends who are single.

maybe if you had tattoos they'd suddenly have friends

Most of my friends have no tattoos and that's not a problem. In fact the 2 guys I know well who have tattoos are chronically single like me lmao.

I can not believe people worry so much about this, even go so far as to create these accounts and fish for partners on the internet. What bigger affront to life is there? Society has become "unlivable" for the common man so you engage in artifical coupling; betraying civilization itself?

you are currently asking advice about women from embittered, defeatist incels and schizoids who have not spoken to a woman outside of their family and/or women at work in the service sector for 6 months or more. At best, these autists have read redpill blogs and PuA literature written by embittered thrice-divorced 50 year old men. You are engaging with a simulacrum of a simulacrum of a simulacrum in a schizoid horror house of mirrors.
You would be wise not to heed any of the words you read. Indeed, if you want to attract a woman, you would be wise to leave this place forever.

I see what most guys do in their down time in place of posting somewhere like this and it's mostly just video games and media consumption. I don't see how switching from here to that would help. If anything this place has helped me a lot over the decade I've been here. I originally started lifting because of /fit/. I've made a lot of money because of /biz/. I originally started reading serious stuff because of Yea Forums. I'm sure there a guys here who are not retarded with women here who can lend advice just like there were guys who actually lifted who helped me years ago.

maybe try /fa/

What do you look for in a partner? someone who's wealthy and fit while eating nothing but oatmeal living an incredibly boring life isn't attractive, wealth and looks are good but they won't save the most boring guy on earth.

Mein Kampf Vol 1

I would never meet an internet weirdo in person.

t. femanon

define boring. I go to indie/punk type concerts all the time. Went to one last weekend even. I ski in the winter, surf in the summer. I usually go on a 1 or 2 vacations per year. A few months ago I spent a week in California with some friends I know out there. Did some hiking, drinking, etc. I try to go out to a bar at least once per week.

The good ones; passion, humor, sexual satisfaction (werewolf factor), activity, humility - self respect, organisation, work ethic. Not oriented toward any specific occupation mind. I've seen below average looking guys with smiling girlfriends.
Just look at what women say they want in a man, and literally take it at face value. If that shit isn't true, what is? I
All women aren't the same, some have higher test, some are more domineering. Some women are lesbians.
Most importantly, If you have such broad and simultaenously high standards that you would swipe thousands of people on tinder yet not attempt to 'convert' any women, you need to sit down and think about a better strategy, or just sit out all together while you work on yourself. It's exactly the kind of swiping/scrolling addict activity one would expect from someone completely burnt out. It's exactly these things that would make a woman unattractive because it signals they haven't got much going on, but they also aren't willing to compromise for a quick fuck or intimacy. Do things qualitatively, wholly and intentionally.
What society is increasingly rewarding is negativity. You can post all day about what you hate and you don't even have to be literate. Easier to sweep up a furious pile on than it is to deal with yourself.

I bet you think all this shit necessarily means you're not boring.

Go to places where women are I.e. common interests like clubs and stuff. Or just ask girls out on the street

>I bet you think going out and doing things you enjoy makes you not boring
I don't know what the fuck "boring" means for you, explain yourself of fuck off faggot. Whenever I do things with my friends we always have a good time. I've been called weird, quirky, an asshole, crazy, retarded, autistic, but never boring.

>Most importantly, If you have such broad and simultaenously high standards that you would swipe thousands of people on tinder yet not attempt to 'convert' any women, you need to sit down and think about a better strategy, or just sit out all together while you work on yourself. It's exactly the kind of swiping/scrolling addict activity one would expect from someone completely burnt out. It's exactly these things that would make a woman unattractive because it signals they haven't got much going on, but they also aren't willing to compromise for a quick fuck or intimacy. Do things qualitatively, wholly and intentionally.
I don't really get what this means. What do you mean "convert"? I've matched with literally hundreds of women across Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge and they always just ghost. I've tried asking them out immediately, trying to have long drawn-out conversations, everything in between, saying random shit, cheesy pick-up lines, basic and generic greetings. None of it seems to make a difference. It's almost like every time that I match, I match with the same exact person. There's almost no difference at all. Maybe a slight variation on their answers, but always low effort, always take hours to respond, will either ghost me in a few messages or give me their number and ghost me before we can meet. How could I be burnt out, I've been on like a single digit number of dates in my entire life. There was never even a fire.

>maybe try /fa/
fa/lit/ here. This is not gonna work.
You'll gonna get more signs of choice but contemporary culture is gonna fuck you anyway.

>just ask girls out on the street
Don't do this, OP.
Culture will fuck you really good.

Women want men that aren't desperate, they want men who don't derive their self worth externally. If you give off even the tiniest hint of the need for other people's approval, it's over. Women can literally smell your anxious thoughts and low self esteem, it shows in your face and mannerisms. Read a book on CBT or NLP

How do you make girls sleep with you if you don't care about what they think? In high school and college I had the problem of being to oblivious so I never got to sleep with any of them because I never paid attention to what they wanted. Wouldn't I be sleeping with them in the first place if I derived some kind of value from them?
>CBT or NLP
What are these?

thanks for the recs. looked him up in french and his style of writing looks guenuinely hilarious

Convince them would be better. Like on Yea Forums if you want to make a good post - there's a sweet spot between garbage shitpost and high quality screencap. You cater to both the girl and your own strengths. Even then, effortposting often gets no replies. You are burnt out user, the ergonomics of the platform are tailored to induce anxiety and stress. If what you say is true, and you're tired, just give it a break. There's not much else you can do.
You can do things that get your adrenaline/energy going a little. That way you have something interesting to talk about that should also give you an overall energy boost.

trips?

>picks almost 50%
If you don't stretch your luck with 9s and 10s, that most likely means you like all 3s to 8s.
>gets matched 1,7%
>chats with 41%
>3 dates in 3 years
>*app whispers "no spark"
delete this app already

You're a minority.

I used a few dating apps recently and am currently in a relationship I think will be longterm.

Used 4 for about a month. Hinge, Bumble, tinder, plenty of fish. I can immediately say all my matches on tinder went nowhere because I wasted time trying to get to know them. user is correct in saying its for sex and nothing more. Bumble is okay but you rely on the girl initiating which is rare and usually leads to a boring conversation unless you take it over very quickly. POF isn't too bad but I got very few matches there compared to the other apps. Maybe 6-7. Hinge is in my perspective the best. The people are interested in relationships and because of this are happy to talk more and build chemistry first. It also allows you to send a short message with a like to kinda increase the chances of getting a match. I used to put some thought into these but never forced them. I connected with around 60 girls on Hinge and went on several dates before I met a girl I really liked and starting to stop using it and politely telling girls ive met I am unavailable.

Might be just the city you/I live in that gives very different experiences but ultimately just keep trying and eventually you will meet someone. Try talking to people in person too. I found talking to random girls making small talk while waiting and shit in public helped me.

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Unironically the new Tao Lin. It's almost Varg-tier in how it demonizes the Abrahamic religions for ruining society, except, if pressed, he mentions Christians as the main offenders, as otherwise Vintage wouldn't publish him lel

>Tinder
ngmi
>Where else do you find dates
It's too late, there's nothing to be done. Just kill yourself right now.
>I have friends but they're all guys and they know I have a hard time meeting women but none of them really know anybody. Half of them are basically the same as me anyway where they have no idea where to meet women for themselves, let alone help me meet some. I'm 26 so I'm years out of college as far as clubs are concerned.
SEEK THE SWEET EMBRACE OF DEATH IMMEDIATELY

>I go to indie/punk type concerts all the time. Went to one last weekend even. I ski in the winter, surf in the summer. I usually go on a 1 or 2 vacations per year. A few months ago I spent a week in California with some friends I know out there. Did some hiking, drinking, etc. I try to go out to a bar at least once per week.
>Where else do you find dates
Ah. Apologies, I did not recognize your LARP right away. Carry on, please.

Guy friends are pieces of shit in this regard. Sorry to break it to you.
But the fact is that with modern dating, relationships are often pretty transient. Most dudes, subconsciously or otherwise, are stowing away potential women for later. They don't want to share them with you because they anticipate a return to the market.
This is why matchmaking is way less common than it used to be.

how does he blame Christians for problems that started with its decline?

The Sexual Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

I've set up my friend with a wife because:
1. I am already married.
2. I'm not a shitbag.

So far, either something is absolutely fundamentally wrong with OP's life: he's fit, productive, makes fat stacks, has lots of friends, frequently socializes through various activity, and at the same time has no idea of how would he approach a women aside from dating apps.

Either he has a split personality disorder where his Patrick Bateman tulpa takes over and makes OP's consciousness black out whenever he's doing anything aside from Tinder swiping and shitposting or lit, or none of this ever happened as OP did the unthinkable and anonymously lied to some internet strangers.

And so the cock carousel goes round and round. Love is just one more dating app away.

Don't be a common man then, take the volcel pill

Unironically met my wife on Tumblr back when their used to be a close-knit Nazi community there. Now we have our first child.

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you are one hell of an incel, mate

HOUELLEBECQ

period.

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>3 years on tinder
>no casual sex

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