Are there any books which help overcome social isolation/anxiety/extreme introversion?
Are there any books which help overcome social isolation/anxiety/extreme introversion?
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Do steroids (test-e)
Lift
Eat clean
Go to the gym
Buy a gun
Read "The Culture of Critique"
Talk to people and realize they don’t dwell on you, including your embarrassments
Stirner and schopenhauer
I lift and attend a boxing gym. Still a nervous wreck talking to anyone, especially females.
Last time I tried going out with someone I met online I had an anxiety attack and left her alone in the cafe cause I couldn't bear it anymore. Couldn't even look in her eyes.
Self therapy by Jay Earely
Could you elaborate? Did it help you?
>nervous wreck talking to anyone, especially females
Then don't, females are worthless anyway.
unironically just read more books (good ones)
I haven't for like 7 years and it's completely destructive because I'm lonely and all I can do is have a simulacrum of friendship by going on Yea Forums and talking to you people. I can't even hold down a normal job, last time I worked was in an Italian restaurant and I quit after the first day cause I was too anxious.
It can help you resolve the core issues causing the anxiety
So we aren't good enough for you, is that what you're saying?
Read the ultramind solution, a diet change can help anxiety.
You're my best friends
Social anxiety and depression is really just narcissism.
My diet is basically:
>Breakfast: eggs or cereal
>Lunch: meat (beef or chicken), brocolli, potatoes
>Dinner: meat, brocolli, potatoes
Then some snacks inbetween. That's what I eat every day.
>Do steroids
not if you don't want to grow tits some day, get bald within months and behave like a sub saharan african
how about therapy? Try to get your shit together, you deserve happiness.
Nobody deserves anything, actually.
I signed up for therapy and they put me on some faggy "social anxiety group" online that will be held on a zoom meeting in June. I doubt it's going to change anything. I just wish I had a friend. Like, if I want to kiss a girl tonight (It's 8pm) what should I do? What course of action should I take to make this happen?
hmmmm, it sounds like you get really anxious because you want the interaction and friends really badly so it just sort of weighs really heavy on you? does that sound right? read How to Win Friends & Influence People, unironically a good book that helped me make friends. It's really simple ideas but it helps for someone to reiterate them.
I’ve thought about doing this myself but I feel like it’d be a big waste of money if the therapists just wants to push their weirdo mental health ideology on me instead of actually helping me t. Religious socialist
also, forgot to mention that you should take the /fit/ pill, and develop some hobbies, makes you a more intersting person. Most of all be honest with yourself, this way you attract good people
I actually don't know what the cause is. It's like a physiological reaction of extreme anxiety that makes me incapable of bearing myself with grace and dignity. Then afterwards the memories of every social interaction I have haunt me and make me feel terrible.
Thanks I'll read that book. A lot of people seem to recommend that one.
Dude, it really sounds like its not going to happen for you and im sorry about that. But nobody comes to an internet board known for racism and incels and says "if i want to kiss a girl tonight (its8pm) what do i do?" theres no answer for you. You just dont have it in you. Refer to that copypasta where it says people like you have to spend an eternity to achieve what a normal person does without thinking about. You already lost.
I have no book but experience. Anxiety derives from conflict unresolved. Ideally it's used to grow whenever you resolve the conflict but a lot of people are remaining in perpetual anxiety for different reasons. Here's a good example: "I do not want to die" conflicts with "I will die," causing death anxiety. If you remove one component, the anxiety goes away. If you accept death, you stop being anxious. If you find a way to deny death, you stop being anxious. Most religions use a combination of the two.
I'm having anxiety about the future since I just realized after graduation I have no home to return to now that my parents are splitting. I had assumed I would be able to return, but the situation changed while I was gone. For a few days I felt like shit with the stress, but recently I started telling myself "I don't want to deal with this, but I will," essentially opening the door for feeling my emotions and thinking about it while accepting the risks. Denial would come from avoiding the thought out of fear of the risks. I'm accepting the risk that I have no answer to my home situation, and the reasoning is that the risk is there if I deny or accept, so I may as well accept, since accepting the situation increases my ability to solve it.
I also used to get cyclical anxiety, if you will, where I felt anxiety about getting anxiety. By telling myself "I will be anxious," I forced myself to accept it. During a panic attack this is hard since the default thought is "I don't want to go through this" so I'd modify the thought by saying "I don't want to go through this, but I will," recognizing I can still go through it even if it sucks and I don't want to.
This is essentially Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy. I only have panic attacks on a monthly basis at this point, having, at my worst, as many as three or four per day.
>I doubt it's going to change anything
You don't deserve help with this attitude user, be grateful and hope for the best
I know but I just want to know what people who actually kiss girls whenever they want do to make that happen. If chad is sitting at home at 8pm and thinks “I think I’ll go on a date tonight” what process does he go through? Does he simply go to a nightclub? Does he wander around the streets asking girls out? Does he go on Tinder?
So this is going to be another thread where OP dismisses every suggestion for reasons. If you really want change, then you’ll have to deal with discomfort
Any combination of the three. All of them or none of them. Thats the entire point. It is not a process they think out. They just have networks of friends or lovers and things happen spontaneously. Rarely do people stop and think to themselves "i want this" because in their average semi fulfilling life, most of what they need is taken care of. Or so they think. (feel).
I use to struggle with this until one day it sort of clicked for me. The anxiety is basically the result of this little implicit, automatic habit in your head. For example, maybe you have the thought that someone is judging you or that you look weird or something "negative" like that and maybe you've tried to suppress or get rid of these thoughts or even argue with them, but they're not the thing that's causing you to feel bad. It's entirely possible to have those kind of thoughts and feel neutral about them, and most people do without it creating anxiety.
The mechanism, as far as I can tell, is this small gap between having the thought and then deciding how you should feel about it. It's really difficult to describe, but if you're aware of it, you can pay attention and dissolve it in the moment. You're not conscious of doing this, but for any given thing, you decide very quickly in the moment how good or bad it is and this becomes an automatic reaction. At some point in your past, you "decided" that certain parts of the social experience are "bad" and then you fell into the trap of avoiding those things, or rather, the thoughts of those things happening.
Basically, observe the sequence of events in your mind that happen when you become anxious. There's an initial thought or image of a situation, then an automatic negative reaction. You can practice getting in between and changing how you feel about it. Imagine embarrassing yourself in some way in front of a group of people, probably immediately gave you the sweats, then you stay in that imaginary situation and practice making it feel neutral, not by changing the situation but just your judgement of it, the split second moment when you decide that it's bad.
The intriguing part is that your conscious thoughts can be separate from this. You can think rationally, oh I just embarrassed myself in front of a lot of people, probably will never invite me out again, but then not feel disturbed by it. So you could decide to do something about it, like apologize instead of feeling like needing to run away.
>realize
Social anxiety generally isn't something that people have thought themselves into.
All the thinking in the world don't change the fact that my mind goes blank, my throat tightens up, and I can't bring myself to meet other people's gazes when they try to talk to me.
>therapy
How did people become convinced that paying ~$100 to spend an hour every few weeks to speak with a 35-year-old woman who's only claim to fame is having a masters in psychology will at all help them overcome the problems they face in life? It's literally just comoditized emotional labour.
You must kill the needy little bitch inside you. That's the only way, men won't respect you and women won't even look at you if you're this deeply uncomfortable in your own skin. You can either introspect or perish, you should begin the process immediately
It's called emotional resilience.
Try meditation. The Mind Illuminated for example.
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The brain is very adaptive even in adulthood. It changes with your actions. If you keep giving in to the emotional impulses you keep strengthening those neural pathways. The next time when you're overwhelmed by your emotions or impulsive reflexes try to focus on something else really hard. Focus on your body or your hands such that you start to feel your pulse and some cribbling. This will drown out the emotion a bit. This is hard at first but after a few months of training, you can detach from emotions and thoughts at will.
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Sometimes those thoughts and emotions are backed up by rational justification. In this case, it helps to broaden your perspective a bit on the human condition.
The Wisdom of Psychopaths. The Happiness Hypothesis.
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Go to your doc and ask for propranolol. This will shut down your body's stress response and help you focus on the mental aspects without being distracted by sweaty, shaking hands and a pounding heart.
Literally all male senators, billionaires, and actors are on some form of test
But you have thought yourself into it. In fact you’re overthinking situations I bet
The main benefit of therapy is physically letting it out. Like a release.
>It's literally just comoditized emotional labour.
So is sex, and reading.
If there's anyone in the world who can do good by you, and make a truly good impact on your life,
does it not make more than a decent bit of sense that that person will have that uniquely capability on account of several years of specialized training?
Talk to a doctor and take some low dose anxiety meds. Trust me it helps. Then practice talking your mind to people and do the other things, but the meds help when your brain isn't willing to cooperate with your will.
>deserving happiness
I’m very skeptical of psychiatry medication. I’m scared it will change me.
>OP post : Help. I wanna change
>I’m scared it will change me.
???
Yeah but you know what I mean. The side effects and shit. I don’t 100% trust the psychiatry industry.
This picture is the set up to a joke.
>A jew and a tranny walk into a bar. The tranny suddenly realizes it hasn’t dilated yet and starts to get upset, threatening to kill itself……
I'm 26 and have been in and out of therapy for over a decade. I'm still a virgin with a crippling anxiety problem and I feel like crying constantly.
how much do you trust yourself?
i´m the same as you, in fact last week, i try to flirt with a girl and i end up telling her about my life in a very consecutive manner and most of the normies in class noticed it, it was very hummilliating for me, but after day or two i started to lose the shame, you know how? because i know that my intention with this girl was to get her to know me and viceversa, i´m still struggling trying to speak with this girl because most of my classmates hates me but eventually you should only focus on your aim
what´s my aim in college? finish my degree and flirt with girls i´m attracted to
Why are you so upset? None of us are getting out of life alive, it's not like anything you're doing is going to change the outcome so sitting around worrying about things isn't going to improve your life. Just stop doing it.
Go into a dive bar during slow hours. Bartenders usually try to initiate conversations for better tips.
OP, it's not over for you because it never even began.
I'm the same way. :(
If you enjoying expressing yourself online in text format, but become anxious talking to people (particularly the opposite sex) in real life - it almost certainly means that you're insecure about your physical appearance or voice. 99% odds that your problem is not some nebulous "social anxiety", but rather issues with bodily self-perception.
Yes I’m insecure about those things but also I just find it hard to express myself in person. In writing it’s a lot easier to think about what you should say.
It's normal to be slower to express yourself in fine ways when you're in-person. That's not weird or wrong. Normal conversations are more stilted and slower than you might expect from online messages, books, or from movies. No one is expecting you to orate like Cicero.
I don't know what exactly makes you insecure about your body (and I don't care), but if it's something that you can reasonably fix, then you should fix it, and if it's something that you can't fix, then it's not your fault and you shouldn't feel bad for it.
Yes, I know it sounds like a platitude, but it's also the reality, and the sooner you internalize it the better for you.
lads, you should stop referring to them as "females", they're not animals
if you consider them like so, they are right in avoiding your presence
>senators
Yes, but where did they play college ball?
Nah, sorry. Zoomers are just basket cases. See, your generation was the proper timing for a revolt so they literally psyop-ed y'all into being fags, pharmaceutical dependent, and heavy drug addicts. I have a much younger accident sister and the stories she tells me of her peers' behavior is insane. Boys openly weeping in public, everybody having panic attacks, and over 20% of the population gay or some level of ascended turbo gay into the pronoun frontier. You're incapable of revolt and that was the only goal. Sorry the means fucked you up this bad, it was just bad timing that you were the scheduled revolt generation.
The refutation to this is the study where they took a few dozen “chad”-type children from different schools and put them in groups in a summer camp. They all immediately developed social hierarchies and “losers” in the group that had no apparent relation to any physical or social characteristics. It’s mostly random, and the game resets every time you enter a new group.
Sounds like it's only random when all the members in the group are at the same level. Throw a chad in a group of losers, and he'll always come out on top.