Any good Scottish lit?

Is this book not quintessential Scottish lit?

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Hell yeah

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Adam Smith- Theory of Moral Sentiments

wind in the willows :)

>Any good Scottish lit?
The Letters of Samuel Rutherford
Memoir and Remains of R.M. M'Cheyne
Human Nature in its Fourfold State by Thomas Boston
The Crook in the Lot by Thomas Boston

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>Human Nature in its Fourfold State by Thomas Boston
When a book has a 5/5 reviews by morons leaving comments like "wow so good..... enlightening stuff...." you JUST know that it's about religion.

It's so good. Enlightening stuff. 5/5

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God

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Lanark by Alasdair Gray

Treasure Island, obviously

Kek, user is pretty perceptive

Trainspotting will make you want to be a heroin addict

Depends on where you stop reading.

Everything written by Nigel Tranter if you're interested in Scottish history.

Who is the James Joyce of Scotland?

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There's a better Scotland in general. It's called Ireland.

>good
>scottish
pick one

Hume, Burns, Irvine Welsh, etc
For a light I recommend Alexander McCall Smith who is kind of Scottish

Based. Scotchtards could never aspire to the likes of Joyce and Beckett.

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I truly enjoy me some Robert Louis Stephenson, particularly when read out in a hardly parsable accent.
George MacDonald Fraser is also great if you like less proper characters and stories.

I'm looking for something actually set in Scotland or about Scotland. Stevenson (not Stephenson) is just fiction, right?

Lmfao

>hume
>Scottish
Just like Michael gove
The Acts and Deeds of the Bruce
The Acts and Deeds of William Wallace
The Poems of Ossian in various collections, though many of these involve the heroes travelling to Ulster

For poem collections, in English, there are many of varying qualities
The Bannatyne Manuscript
The Asloan manuscript
The works of Dunbar
The works of Lindsay
The Maitland folio

George Buchan wrote lots very well, only one in English, but his history of Scotland isn't very accurate

He just ain't it

>George Buchan
It's Buchanan, retard.

I know this might shock an incel like you but spelling errors can occur on an image board

>I know this might shock an incel like you but spelling errors can occur on an image board
You're right, it does shock me.

I liked Filth by Irvine Welsh.

>thread about Scottish literature
>just Irvine Welsh, Scott and Hume
Ahh yes

The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner.
by James Hogg
it's excellent, it's exciting, it has murder and madness, and in terms of its narrative stance(s) not quite like anything else of its time.
I heartily recommend it.

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>and in terms of its narrative stance(s) not quite like
Its because he wrote from the Scottish mindset, which was not promoted, not the English one which writers like Walter Scott used

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that's nonsense.
Spoiler: it's because he tells the same story from the point of view of two different narrators, one of whom is the murderer, who attempts to justify the actions described by the first narrator.

Posted in wrong thread.
scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/louse-seeing-one-ladys-bonnet-church/

Isn't he Canadian? I live in Canada (Halifax) and there's a statue of him beside my house

>almost 50 replies
>nobody has posted the greatest work of Scottish fiction
Sad!

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>Welsh
>is Scottish

Ok, incel

It's OK or okay, not Ok.

Three Perils of Men and Women are underrated masterpieces of historical fiction and satire. Hogg is brilliant, and the fact that only really Confessions is in print with a major publisher is a sin.

its because of

Do you want to narrow it down? Or do you want a shotgun blast of random good stuff? Is both fiction and non-fiction fine? desu, Scotland's non-fiction output is a bit more notable in terms of actual impact, but there is good fiction too

Fiction but also cultural. No sci-fi or fantasy, obviously. I don't get why people are recommending sci-fi just because the author is Scottish.

Gavin Douglas' translation into Scots of the Aeneid is very good, Pound claimed it was better than any in English.

Robert Burns. One of the most humane poets who ever lived, perhaps Scotland's greatest genius. Absolute personal favourite of mine.

Sir Walter Scott of course, although I haven't read him. Not quite my thing but just about the most influential author.

James Hogg a very underrated contemporary of Scott.

Hugh MacDiarmid is our great modernist poet. Tried to get into him but 2doric5me.

Muriel Spark and Alasdair Gray are two great modern/contemporary novelists. Lanark and The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.

>all that history
>all those famous intellectuals
>all that scenery

Aaaaaand it all totally dies as a damp squib not-even-minor outpost of the Global American Empire, as the population becomes a retarded hyper progressive bunch of neutered males and women, begging to be overrun by refugees from shitholes and refusing to do anything except living on welfare.

which of these would be easiest to get into, language wise?

>perhaps Scotland's greatest genius
lmfao
>Hugh MacDiarmid
see above

Any of the novelists really

Problem user?

Hugh MacDiamrid wrote in English clothed in Scottish words and Robert Burns would change to English when he felt the need to say anything serious.
Both represent pretty well the anglicisation going even further to destroy the local dialect after destroying the native language.
>which of these would be easiest to get into
desu i dont see why anyone would read the Gavin Douglas Aeneid thing honestly just read any modern English translation instead of a medieval one.
MacDiarmid should be ignored as I explained above and he used his works to try and promote Communism commonly

Just read Hogg and Burns in my opinion.
None of them are hard language wise except Douglas because he uses so many Latin words within his English.

>Hugh MacDiamrid wrote in English clothed in Scottish words and Robert Burns would change to English when he felt the need to say anything serious.
What's your point? user asked for Scottish authors and I gave a list of the most prominent. What's the relevance of your complaining how anglicised they were? They're the two most important authors in Scottish poetry.
>communism
Ohnoes. Imagine refusing to read a poet because their politics were bad

>What's your point?
Its fake nonsense and the author of it openly said that.
> They're the two most important authors in Scottish poetry.
No. No they aren't.
> What's the relevance of your complaining how anglicised they were?
Because he asked for "Scottish" literature
Not anglicised nonsense

>Because he asked for "Scottish" literature
>Not anglicised nonsense
Oh you're an insane nativist. Good day.

I have a very particular request...
I am driving to Edinburgh form the South of England. It's a 10 hour drive.
Would be nice to have an audiobook that would both get me excited about visiting Scotland and give me something to listen to on the way. Driving makes it hard to listen to dense text, so something that translates well to audio would be good.

>insane nativist.
you yanks are have broken heads

Boswell and Johnson's Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland and Journal of a Tour to the Hebrides

The guy shitting on Burns because he didn't write in pure Scots is the one with a broken head user.

Thanks. I will listen to 10 mins of it to get an idea of what it's like.
Any novels that fit my criteria?

>Burns because he didn't write in pure Scots
"Just read Hogg and Burns in my opinion."
learn to read
why are you so sensitive to me saying anglicisation isnt a positive thing?

Perhaps Sunset Song by Lewis Grassic Gibson

>learn to read
So why did you 'lmfao' at me suggesting he was Scotland's greatest genius? Which he plainly was. No other Scottish author has anywhere near the brilliance, the humaneness, the deep influence across the world and enduring appeal among every kind of reader up to the present day. E.g. Matthew Arnold compared Burns to Goethe, Shakespeare and Aristophanes. Any other Scottish author would be embarrassed to be ranked in that company...
>why are you so sensitive to me saying anglicisation isnt a positive thing?
It's not a positive thing. Or a negative thing. Words are what you make of them. Criticising authors for using certain words and registers in and of themselves, apart from how they are put to work, is philistinism.

Ok, I'm not really that read up on pre-20th Century stuff because it tends to bore me. Fiction first

—— Early 20th ——
* George Douglass Brown – The House With the Green Shutters
Borges wanted to become Scottish after reading it. Pretty high praise

*A J Cronin –The Citadel
Young idealistic doctor turns on his values for fat stacks and gets whats coming.

—— Mid 20th ——
* Compton Mackenzie – Whisky Galore
Comedy. Possibly not as funny if you aren't familiar with island culture, especially the Hebrides. Still funny though.

* Muriel Spark – The Ballad of Peckham Rye
Probably better known for The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, but I always preferred this one. Has this antiquated (for the time) kind of style that drifts in and out of perspectives but does so really skillfully.

Late 20th
* Irvine Welsh – Trainspotting
Probably almost unreadable unless you are actually Scottish.

* Ian Banks – The Wasp Factory
Some weird psychopathic kid is haunted by having his dick bit off as a kid and deals with it by befriending a midget, building pipebombs, getting drunk, and inventing creative ways to kill wasps. If you can get the right edition almost worth it for the pages and pages of outraged reviews quoted as a foreword.

* James Kelman – How Late It Was, How Late
A shoplifter gets beaten blind by the police after a two-day bender and then tries to get his shit together.

——Contemporary (21st)——
* Douglas Stewart – Shuggie Bain
About a gay teen growing up in 80s/90s. All the classic Scottish themes: hating your parents, alcoholism and poverty. Yea Forums will probably reject just because "globohomo" or something but the prose is great. Booker Prize hates Scottish books but they still gave it the award that year.

*

>No other Scottish author has anywhere near the brilliance, the humaneness
Try reading something in Scotland's language or translated from it idk bro maybe that would help.
>Or a negative thing.
A country's loss of its native culture is negative

Great, thanks. Appreciate it.

>All the classic Scottish themes: hating your parents, alcoholism and poverty. /li
fuck off

I'm dissapointed I have less 21st century stuff.

Non-fiction. This I can go further back in time for. Not really much of note produced since the 20th Century anyway

* David Hume – A Treatise of Human Nature
* Adam Smith – The Theory of Moral Sentiments
* Adam Smith – Wealth of Nations
* Adam Ferguson – Institutes of Moral Philosophy
* Thomas Carlyle – On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and The Heroic in History

I'm Scottish, and these do show up all the fucking time in Scottish literature. Poverty especially. Depicting poverty realistically has been one of the main unifying themes of Scottish lit throughout the 20th Century.

>and these do show up all the fucking time in Scottish literature.
*20th century literature
Because by then Scotland was pretty much totally anglicised with little differences between it and England and all the real jobs went abroad leaving little to do

Take your meds

please just fuck off if youre just going to play off autistic phrases

I'm all for dissolving the union because its a farce, but how much notable output did Scotland actually have before the Acts of Union? Even between the Union of Crowns and acts of union? Fuck all.

Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is very very good and not at all difficult

Yes, M Spark writes in English

Yeah basically all the good stuff was written in the 18th century when Scotland was invigorated by the new union

>*20th century literature

Can't even read to the end of the post where I mention its 20th century. Yea Forums levels of reading comprehension

>e, but how much notable output did Scotland actually have before the Acts of Union?

John Barbour was the first man to seriously write in the English language since the Norman conquest
George Buchanan was one of if not the best Latin writers of the modern era
The first copies of Aristotle to enter Europe were translated by a Scotsman who later became top adviser to the Emperor of the HRE

That isn't all of it

David Hume

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He is English in every way but birth

All of England's good literature was written after it joined Scotland in the Union

He has a Scottish body type

Also true

>english in every way but the most important one

>fat
>1700s
Hes English
The average Scotsman before the industrial revolution was 6ft 2 on average with entire districts having average heights of up to 6ft4

It isn't the most important outside of virgin minds and the new world

>>All the classic Scottish themes: hating your parents, alcoholism and poverty.
this is all britain kek

>if you believe genetics are important it means you never had sex

Scots write about it a lot more though

yes it does
if a man's only claim to being scottish is his ancestry he is in fact not scottish

no they dont

Says who?

The only outlier is JK Rowling but for some reason many people think she is from Scotland
But here it clearly shows that less than half of Scottish people believe really that a person being born to Scottish parents makes them Scottish

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Hume was born, lived and died in Scotland. But he was really English y'see because he thought Ossian was fake. Before calling someone Scottish, please consult our resident schizo Ossianfag for confirmation.

A Scottish poem, translated.

Listen you, oh men of the house
To the tale of the vigorous cock
Which made my heart lustful
I put a song of this tale .

Though many pretty arboreal cocks
That were in old times
The his religious man has
A greatly hard cock.

The cock of my working priest
Though long and sturdy
For a while it has not been heard of
The thickness of his manhood.

His cock is too thick
This is not a lying tale
Never has this thickness been heard before
Or seen again.

>But he was really English y'see because he thought Ossian was fake
No its because he spent his whole life promoting Scots to act like Englishmen in every manner and because he paid a fortune to be taught to speak in an English accent.

Seconded.

Sounds like a very Scottish thing to do.

>Ossianfag
He has a name you know- ASF. Autistic Scottish Freak.