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Negima! Magister Negi Magi Vol 30
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Jeremiah Morgan
Brandon Watson
Robert Gray
Angel Harris
Dominic Flores
Austin Cooper
Jordan Powell
Camden Anderson
Colton Cruz
Luke King
Thomas Barnes
Jose Flores
Tyler Gonzalez
Lucas Richardson
Jace Gonzalez
Lincoln Wilson
Ian Watson
Adam Hughes
Brandon Sullivan
Levi Mitchell
Grayson Morgan
Caleb Sanders
Joshua Perez
Jaxon Morgan
Ryder Gonzalez
Noah Parker
Jaxon Anderson
Xavier Turner
Welcome back
Jonathan Williams
Mason Campbell
Ayden Miller
Jeremiah Gray
Jonathan Sullivan
Zachary Cruz
James Cruz
Nice bondage gear.
Negi's mom is autistic.
Dylan James
Hudson Hernandez
aww
Mason Gutierrez
Luis Davis
Mason White
Joshua Campbell
Kayden Cox
Ryder Lewis
Samuel Sanders
Thomas Baker
Isaac Green
William Evans
Carson Watson
Dominic Wilson
Brody Miller
William Baker
Levi Fisher
Kevin Baker
Robert Garcia
Brandon Price
Noah Watson
Joshua Jackson
Wait for it..
Tyler Walker
Joshua Turner
Joseph Carter
*Flowering Night intensifies*
Jack Morales
Kayden James
Parker Hall
Nolan Harris
John Rogers
Lincoln Russell
Dominic Howard
>Shirabe in a maid outfit
cute CUTE
Elijah Green
Eli Edwards
Blake Johnson
Isaac Morris
Sebastian Gutierrez
Negi couldnt save Chisame in the bad end line and failed to save the day as well
Nagi was right
Levi Hughes
Cooper Smith
James Smith
Yes, this page, this fucking page, the second most brick shitting moment in the entire manga.
Ian Brooks
Charles Edwards
Ryan Campbell
Ryan Brown
Asher Campbell
Asher Ross
Brody Carter
And the fear hits right about here
Nathan Martinez
Caleb Wilson
Jordan Bennett
Justin Wright
This is the song that came into my head. Just a nice happy ending song
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Asher Morris
Asher Roberts
Connor Kelly
Kayden Sullivan
>Even a high daylight walker would be hard-pressed to recover from such a fate.
Forget the fact that it's revealed just who true high daylight walkers are, in UQ, Eva is, like, THE ONLY "true" vampire in existence, so how or why does anyone think they can compare how strong or resistant-to-death a vampire is???
As much as we, the privileged readers of Negima that we are, know that Eva could chi blast or something her way through that monster pit no problem (never mind some genius strategy otherwise), it's always odd to me people think they know about vampire in the Mundus Magicus world. When it's just Eva.
Camden Nguyen
Daniel Stewart
Noah Campbell
William Powell
Isaiah Sanders
High Daylight Walker is just a category of vampire, we can infer others exist in the universe.
Tyler Hall
Owen Walker
Leo Mitchell
Adam Collins
Parker Rodriguez
Nolan Johnson
Oliver Miller
Brody Parker
Jaxson Anderson
>Detected possible malicious code in image file.
That's a new one.
Benjamin Wood
Kayden Carter
Ethan Rodriguez
Eli Clark
Owen Brooks
Eva, that's not a very lady-like way to sit.
Jason Lewis
Samuel Fisher
David White
>that face
kek
Austin Turner
Jaxon James
Brandon Young
Isaiah Ortiz
Angel Lewis
Jaxson Cruz
Colton Foster
the best
Camden Jenkins
Except there's a flashback in UQ where Eva stops a noble vampire working with a politician in the Magic World. So I'm sure they're familiar with actual vampires. Even if you insist UQ came after, the fact the Lifemaker used the basis of a pure blood vampire to turn Evangeline implies they always existed in the universe even if Ken didn't give them explicit spotlight.
Isaac Campbell
Jacob Hernandez
Austin Jones
I agree. They're given enough passing mention that vampires, high-daylight walkers or not, must have been part of the production bible since near the start.
Lucas Johnson
Caleb Wood
Hunter Morgan
>new sword is a tsurugi and not a katana
Always love seeing these.
Jack Hill
Brandon Kelly
Adrian Johnson
Gabriel Watson
Lincoln Lopez
Brayden Diaz
Isaiah Rodriguez
Matthew Cooper
Carter Hughes
Brody Green
>super ninja eyesight
Juan Gonzalez
Evan Evans
Andrew Smith
Eli Cooper
Mason Sullivan
Anthony Peterson
Henry Edwards
Matthew Nelson
Mason Gomez
Samuel Sanchez
Ryder Smith
Nathaniel Ortiz
Carson Gutierrez
Nicholas Brown
Daniel Murphy
Jackson Jones
Jose Russell
Juan Bailey
Charles Nguyen
Matthew Gutierrez
>tmw the real Asuna doesn't remember this and never paid Mana back
Isaiah Wright
Jaxon Jackson
Nathan Adams
Logan Hill
Hunter Rivera
Henry Bell
Jeremiah Jones
Kevin Hill
Christopher Gomez
William Brooks
Oliver Miller
my wife's time to shine
Hudson Clark
So, Negi is a typical Shonen character. Natch
Andrew Price
Another exciting ending! I love great escape attempts.
See how everything shakes out tomorrow at 5pm PDT
>Jochan, I don't feel so good
Levi Smith
Eva is never said to be the only one. There's vampires being a regular thing in the Negima lore, even discounting UQ Holder. The whole 'noble' bullshit was UQ Holder, but Eva being part of a CLASS of vampires and not unique all to herself, was in Negima. Evangeline was just so insanely bullshit strong, she's the most powerful known one to the world at large.
Evan Long
That's a hella monster design. I love it.
Benjamin King
Nathan Kelly
Benjamin Bailey
Joseph Long
Fitting for the page too
Eli Hill
Grayson Carter
Her artifact's pretty cool.
About time Mana
Heh, thanks OP.
Mason Cruz
I have to say, I do like the politics going on here and how Ala Rubra didn't just gorilla their way through everything and prove Arika was innocent just by beating everyone up. The situation was a complex one and she lost her reputation, but she still kept her life and the world was allowed to stay at peace for the time. As Kurt said, there were still plenty of issues, but they were ones which could be dealt with another day. Crashing the rescue and saving her publicly would just restart conflicts. The Senate also knows this, so even despite being humiliated by Ala Rubra and knowing Arika lived, they wouldn't want to admit to the public what happened and lose so much face and start more wars either.
Ryan Hall
Fucking fantastic
Levi Thomas
This fucking girl
Isaiah Myers
Jaxson Jenkins
Noah Ramirez
I didn't look before I posted these. Who the frick formatted this?
Colton Miller
>that pose
>"Oh, Kitty"
heh
Aiden Carter
Dominic Clark
Leo Taylor
Gabriel Young
Caleb Watson
Jordan Peterson
>that stubborn literal drama queen business
I can see where Negi gets his gloominess from.
Chase Garcia
Nun with spats is rare combination
Parker Hill
Man, reading through this thread is so depressing knowing how the manga ended up turning out. To think we almost lived in a world where it wasn't cancelled.
Michael Richardson
Bentley Stewart
hoverhand
Jaxson Long
Lets just be careful about Thanos posting considering all
Right, freaking cursed timeline
Levi Hill
I don't think they're spats though? Misora wears stockings w/garters or pantyhose with her nun outfit.
Jordan Foster
Oh yeah, these fucking things are troublesome as hell.
Jeremiah Clark
She doesn't have very lady-like intentions.
Joseph Gonzalez
Next volume should have my question in this section. I was one of the two foreign guys who sent a question in English and got it answered.
William Allen
If Negima had it's final arc completed it would be my absolute favorite battle shounen of all time.
Henry Wilson
Thanks OP. What a cliffhanger!
Nolan Wright
Evan King
Who knew the newest DOOM final boss would be leaked early?
Aaron Roberts
FUCK YEAH. RIP AND TEAR!
Jack Bell
Ooh. Lucky you.
Aaron Brown
Holy fuck this volume was badass as all hell. It helps that when the big scary demon guy showed up outside the palace I played "Rip and Tear" from DOOM 2016. Thanks for the daily dump OP!
Dominic Davis
You can tell they aren't real demons because they don't have any bants
Bentley James
I don't use this word lightly, but next volume is going to be HYPE.
Andrew Powell
the last time I checked Negima was a garbage disposable harem series and now it's apparently a depressing and violent political drama about war?
Jordan Cook
Ehh these things happen
Colton Martin
And an isekai battle shonen
Ethan Richardson
Love this manga. Thanks OP.
Anthony Bailey
Yeah by volume 5-6 it went from shallow Love Hina x Harry Potter fanfiction to shonen fanservice with occasional suffering. It's sequel UQ Holder said "Let's take a bad end and run with it! Everyone is sad but also immortal which makes them sadder!"
Mason Jenkins
Cute. Cute! Anyone would've hugged her in that situation, no matter how powerful the slap would've been.
William Ramirez
And as snarky as that first bit sounds, I love Negima. How it felt as a story from beginning, to middle, to end was kind of all over but it's a wild ride. Love Hina is probably one of my favorite manga, and I enjoy Akamatsu's art quite a bit, even when it was kind of janky during early stuff like A.I. Love You
Caleb Taylor
The volume 17 link has had a typo for a while.
Grayson Taylor
Thanks for pointing that out.
Half the Vol X: were missing colons until today too
Adam Cox
Brody Barnes
Not the usual guy making these and I don't got a bunch of time to make a couple reaction image worthy caps, but this one stood out for me.
Colton Thomas
The editor text and the bubbles are switched again, aren't they? I swear the original text was "Treasure hunter nodoka miyazaki will now begin her counterattack"
Brody Flores
Because you're not the real Asuna, duh.
Adam Carter
They could have done a better job remembering there were two missing people and one they thought was missing was found..
Logan Thomas
but he did defy his creator. Did the lifemaker make fate like that out of curiosity?
Cameron Wood
The Lifemaker had various 'settings' for her constructs. It's stated directly, at least in the fan-TL, that she made Fate with no innate loyalty toward her, unlike the others. So he arguably had the most 'free will' of the constructs.
Asher Mitchell
I wish takane would have joined negis group more
Jackson Nelson
That looks like a good hentai demon
Jackson Perez
Yell Squads are gangsta as fuck. Cheerleading squads are low IQ, Yell Squads are where men with burning souls go to support the team.
No doubt they are descended from the Flagbearers of armies of the past, the men who kept the morale high and were required to stay alive due to their high importance.
Owen Wood
Reading this in a thread is more trouble than it's worth. Got a torrent link or something?
Connor Robinson
nyaa.si
Here's what I used.
...I think I post it every time someone asks. Pretty sure.
Liam Howard
So what was the reason Kurt only wanted to save Megalomesembria's population alone?
Xavier Gonzalez
Thanks, Magi.
Jacob Murphy
I wanna know more about this death collar law.
Owen Jackson
Jaxson Campbell
Probably what they mentioned earlier in the manga where the collar punishes slaves for disobeying(it can kill them too) but on the other hand it makes sure the owner can not abuse the slave.
James Morgan
Mars people would just vanish with the collapse. But the Megalomesembria's people were real bone and flesh, so they'd just suffer through it. If the collapse was inevitable, then they were the only lives that could be saved.
Camden Thompson
Oh no, I hate where this is going
Mason Martin
Is Zazie's home a magical world or a physical world? We know she's from Venus but does she exist on it's actual land like it was Terraformed or is it like the Magical World in that it sorta exists on the planet but not really?
Brayden Allen
>the thing Chao was trying to prevent was the destruction of the magical world
>rather than some run of the mill local tragedy, no different from those that occur around the globe daily, as she described it
I always thought this kind of spoiled the poetic value of Chao's motives.
Jeremiah Bailey
The thought of Arika spending two years in a straitjacket is pretty hot, not gonna lie.
Levi Foster
>Drop all of your weapons and cards!
What is this, Yugioh?
Easton Thompson
But it doesn't. Both UQ and this theorized destruction of the magical world are just displacements and deaths of a lot of people. We know that during Chao's time, this was incredibly common, common enough that it's even happening during Touta's time even though Mars is settled and people live there.
Ethan Gonzalez
>lower right
How wet is she?
Sebastian Miller
As Negi points out, only 67 million souls on Mars are ACTUALLY real. The other 1.123 BILLION existences are literally magic beings with zero reality beyond pieces of the setting that simply have sentience. To "save" all the magical beings of Mars, outside the real 67 million humans from Earth, is not only incredibly taxing to do (that's a LOT of people), but the huge number is LITERALLY the reason why Magicus Mundus (Mars) is collapsing in the first place. It doesn't have the resources to sustain that.
That's the timeline Chao's from. Mars collapses and 1.123 billion magical entities, as well as the entire magical habitat, DISAPPEAR. Only 67 million humans remain, and are instantly thrust onto the barren, red, wasteland that is the surface of Mars.
Carter Hill
It's as real as Earthlings. They're just Venusian. No more (or less) magical, just older. And a completely different species of sentient life.
Mason Ramirez
>Rakan comes from a race that lives long, so he doesn't age much
Huh.
Alexander Jones
Were hybrids possible? Would a child hybrid vanish too? It seems like at least some of those magical ones with enough work and time could be made to have a normal body.
Jaxon Perez
Identity theft
Juan Campbell
Probably? I dunno.
As Negi seems to be fairly explicit about later, it's not that it's IMPOSSIBLE to save the "purely magical" being of Magicus Mundus...it would simply require a LOT of magic, a LOT of effort, and a LOT of time. Far more time (and magic) than could possibly be accrued in the few years that the world was going to collapse.
That's always the thing in many of these cases:
1. Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
2. What's the better choice: sacrifice 1% to save 99% (low-risk of failure) or work to save 100% (high-risk of failure)?
Most of the "evil" people in this Negiverse are people who believe
>death is a thing. Law of averages demands we work for the greater good."
Most of the "good" people in this Negiverse are people who believe
>there must be an answer that solves everything for everyone. I refuse to compromise (except sacrifice myself, perhaps): instead, I will solve everything.
And, as a reader, you're meant to side with the idea that a good, "perfect solution," is not only possible, but can be implemented within the same time-frame as the bad, "imperfect solution," despite explicit hypocrisy that it's not.
Gabriel Thompson
>displacements and deaths of a lot of people
Sure, but 67 million people displaced is much bigger a deal than, say, a mass shooting. Or the KyoAni fire. It seemed like Chao was describing something local like these.
>We know that during Chao's time, this was incredibly common
Sure, but she was talking about our time.
Hunter King
Idk, there are enough impossible geniuses in Negima!'s setting that I don't blame them for thinking they couldn't pull SOMETHING off.
Charles Anderson
I think she was talking about war and genocide in the news, user.
William Parker
Oh, or massive natural disasters. My point is that she doesn't insinuate she's talking about anything local.
Michael Sullivan
Are there other manga which intentionally worldbuild to the extent that Negima does? Most worldbuilding in anime feels like it just accumulates over time to justify a series of plotpoints.
Gavin Campbell
The implication seems to be Venusian civilization used to exist on the physical plane but then after they destroyed themselves from in-fighting survivors were banished to the inverse side, which is now the demon world. But Venusians aren't illusions like MW residents, and the black of Venus is the source of some of the Lifemaker's power.
1/2
Wyatt Martin
I mean, whether she's talking about big tragedies or everyday war fatalities, neither of those is on the same order of magnitude as a billion or so people (2/3rds of China's population) just evaporating, and 67 million people (current population of the UK) displaced.
Lucas Foster
Aaron Cox
Oops, forgot to spoiler that page.
Evan Gutierrez
And it's hard to argue that, as ultimately they didn't (or haven't, yet). Especially given this is a fantasy story about magic and harem ecchi battle shounen. "Perfect" is totally believable, I can easily admit to that. It's not even necessarily remarkable. It can also be very fun.
I just like discussing the value of what these powerful people where doing. It was always on a global scale, so it affected more than just a 1:1 "who's stronger" level. The repercussions of the winner or loser of that battle was enormous and spectacular, even/especially for those not involved (or not even aware). And, quite wonderfully, this manga does actually delve into exactly what those repercussions are, for BOTH outcomes. It's fun! It simply boils down, as the reader, to a sort of "belief" of what YOU think a human will do...and if that would ever change.
In the end, the easiest thing to discuss to keep a baseline is that this is all about natural resources. Magicus Mundus is going to collapse because
1. Planet Mars has limited magic resource
2. Population of Mars has grown beyond that limit
3. unrelatedly, but also a reason for action, Ialda is REALLY tired of bad feelings and wants it to stop.
So how do you solve those two points? There a a lot of ways to address them, but what's the "best?"
Gabriel Hernandez
I feel you're unfairly framing the issue. Negi admitted back in Mahora Festival there wasn't something that could really make everyone happy and that he was being the 'bad guy' for taking the stance that he was, trying to deny Chao's plan. Chao absolutely refused to compromise, so there was no way everyone could be 'saved'. It was Chao and her side vs the Mahora side, and someone had to lose.
Everyone on the 'save the few we can train' has basically given up entirely on even entertaining the thought of trying to save everyone, and they believe it to be impossible. Negi's against that as he both doesn't know the final piece(yet) of why that's the case, hence Nodoka asked, and because he wants to believe everyone can be saved and do everything he can. And he comes up with a solution that works and prevents Mars from collapsing. Even before this though, people like Kurt have already written it all off as a lost cause. I think Negi is smart enough, between Mahora Fest and this stuff, to know saving everyone every single time might be difficult, but sometimes you CAN save everyone, even if it's the impossible looking route, and it's always worth fighting for to get that outcome where everyone can be saved.
Negi has just gotten confirmation of most of the picture, so can you really blame him, the smart child he is, for wanting to try and come up with something? If everyone always took the 'easy' way of sacrificing a few to save the many cause it was less risky or they already wrote it off, then that's a dangerous slope you can start going down or you end up losing more lives than you would have to if you tried to save everyone. There's nothing wrong with the narrative supporting that.
There's not too much, sadly. Negima's world building was something damn special, especially when it came to the magic system and Lexicon info. Haven't found something like it since.
Leo Davis
While we're all talking about Negima, does anybody remember what it (or UQ) says about the afterlife? I mean, it clearly exists in some form because of all the undead, but is it mentioned beyond that?
Jeremiah Collins
Isn't he talking about Early Earthlings, the "Nobles" there? I thought I read this is Nikitus explaining who the Vampires were; that they were Earth's sentient life before humans ever gained intelligence. They eventually left Earth, but didn't "sail the stars" beyond their own solar system, eventually simply inhabiting Venus (because of the Black of Venus is some strong stuff). I thought the Venusians were ACTUAL lifeforms from Venus, not just the Shinsou Vampires. Zazie, for example.
I can be wrong, there's a lot of info.
Bentley Rodriguez
Besides what others said, don't forget that everyone in the Magic World knows Eva.
Anthony Rogers
Looks like a Chinese Emperor or something.
Justin Baker
Where did her manacles go?
Landon Morales
>only 2 warships and 3k soldiers
What a dumbass.
Ethan Green
C'mon Nodoka. Geez.
Angel Allen
You're probably right
Ian Gutierrez
I'll admit again, given this is a manga fantasy story, a perfect solution can certainly exist! It's not shocking our MC is the sole person, maybe along with his friends we've all come to love, is able to come up with that solution despite everyone else "giving up." I'll state though, my "frame" is not as a reader at the Mahora Festival or the Fighting Fate stage, it's as someone who's completed the manga and is up-to-date on the UQ Holder manga and while I'm applying applying the UQ story, I don't necessarily have to to remain confident in my views or questions.
I will address this, though.
>I think Negi is smart enough, between Mahora Fest and this stuff, to know saving everyone every single time might be difficult, but sometimes you CAN save everyone, even if it's the impossible looking route, and it's always worth fighting for to get that outcome where everyone can be saved.
This gives the indication of where your stance is on such large, catastrophic issues like this. Issues that involve life, death, and free will on individual or global scale. I'm under the impression that, as you state, that 100% salvation is possible.
For example: Nagi. Nagi made all his decisions quickly and easily - never give up, win everything, save everyone. He lived his whole life that way, became the Thousand Master, "saved the world," everyone loved him. But, while he made the decisions based on the assumption he was going to win and never fail...Nagi failed. In the end, people still died Hell, he himself "killed" his enemies, Ostia fell, The Lifemaker continues to exist and Nagi died. It would seem, PRINCIPLE, you still agree with Nagi and his actions: this was a man who refused to compromise on his convictions that 100% salvation was possible and HIS way was going to work, even though it didn't. That was okay, at least it was "right" and not "giving up."
I simply do not agree, either as a reader or merely as "devil's advocate."
Joseph Sanchez
Carson Russell
Grayson Moore
Nobles ARE Venusians, they've lived long before humanity took off. There's no indication they were originally from Earth, Ba'al even specifies being raised on different planets.
But not all Venusians are noble vampires, what exists there now is the demon world on the inverse side, so demons--like Zazie--come from there.
Evan Gray
I mean, you're all right and I agree, "high daylight walker" vampire MUST exist in more than "only Eva" amounts. It's just...it's implied they're so rare (and powerful) that using them as any kind of comparison seems to vague and unjustified. It would be nice to know what a Vampire was in the Negiverse instead of "Eva" or "UQ Shinsou Akasha Noble"
Not to dismiss that Evangline "The Dark Evangel" isn't certainly famous for her power or deeds; she certainly was very involved with destroying her enemies for hundreds of years. But, as readers, we pretty much know they have no idea just how strong Eva is, and it's been a long time since she's shown real power to the public.
Jordan Gray
>There's no indication they were originally from Earth
Well, that's true enough. I was certainly operating under the assumption they were, though. At least in relation to Nikitis' discussion.
>But not all Venusians are noble vampires, what exists there now is the demon world on the inverse side, so demons--like Zazie--come from there.
And I guess I did make the assumption you're disputing, so I can leave it at that.
Jace Russell
Good thing he brought Chisame along.
Grayson Edwards
Look at that sexy back.
Sebastian Barnes
Not at all. I speak as someone who is up to date on everything and has reread Negima multiple times. The problem is that Nagi was someone who didn't have ANY plan besides 'stop the bad guy'. I said SOMETIMES you can save everyone, even if it looks impossible. It's true, you can't every time. Nagi's problem was he was the shounen idiot hero.
This starkly contrasts Negi. Nagi's approach was 'eliminate the bad guy so they can't keep doing bad things'. Where Negi is more 'eliminate their REASON so they don't NEED to keep doing the perceived bad things.' He even spells this out later when battling with Cosmo Entelecheia and says something to the effect "We don't have to fight. With my plan able to save everyone, your's doesn't hold any legitimacy". I don't remember the exact line, but it was something along those lines.
Sure, Negi does have that element of believing he can still do it or that he'll make it work, but unlike his father, he actually goes through the effort and planning to try and come up with a solution and offer an alternative which can at least be discussed. Salvation can very well be possible, but not the way Nagi was doing it. So, no, I actually don't flatly agree with Nagi as he offered no solution besides 'stop the bad guy. Deal with it later. How? Lol hell if I know."
Things are a lot more nuanced than you're making it out to be. If you can actually back up you convictions and ideals, then it's not a delusional fantasy. To give a more simple example, Nagi says he's the strongest mage in the world, and he has the power to back it up. If some random jobber makes the same claim but can't back it up, then that's where the problem is.
Negi did not have a solution in that exact moment, but he's someone who actually has the brains to not have an unfounded belief he might be able to do it and try for himself, instead of taking someone's word of "It's impossible." It's not blind optimism or faith if you can pull it off.
Henry Murphy
Cute Mei.
Michael Adams
Isn't Yue's pin missing since they never got a reaction for hers or something?
Nicholas Ross
Thanks for the dump.
Isaac Adams
I just wanna say I love all you guys. This is the kind of Negima discussion and community I've been lacking for literal years since it kinda died a quiet death. I know it's fleeting and won't last much longer, but this has been the best time I've had on Yea Forums in ages. OP is a great person.
Ethan Clark
No, Yue has her pin.
Jeremiah Watson
I'm happy to see that we agree on the idea of nuance, property, and the amalgamation of reality is more than just "win/lose." That it involves plan, effort, structure and then dedication. We also agree that Negi brought all of that into the discussion! (And that Nagi didn't) My conversation up to this point was assuring we reached this point, together. Now, we get to talk about Negi: did Negi succeed? Feel free to think about different timelines, plot, manga series relations, backstory, addressed or even unaddressed points. That's all fine. But, did Negi's plan of making Mars habitable, making Mars a sustainable world that can harbor the population, succeed?
I can see justifiable answers for both YES and NO.
My only concern is that you (or others) may not understand the justification of what that "no" means.
Yes, Negi's plan worked! He succeeded in the application of his plan!! The requirement for, well, murder (willful ignorance of 1.123 billion deaths as sacrifice), of the magical beings and the removal free-will (cohma) that Cosmo Entelechia had for its plan of "Heaven" to work...is not present with Negi's plan! He was able to operate while attempting to save everyone, he never gave up, genius that he was and luckily? immortal he became.
But also, no, he still failed. Negi did NOT save everyone, and he knew it, too. And that's where it seems you and I differ on opinion. Negi's failure to save everyone (inevitable, since people die by the hundreds every second, Negi isn't God) is something you seem to find true, but also refutable as evidence his plan shouldn't have been enacted. After all, Negi was at least TRYING to save everyone, and that's better than compromise, right? We know where he failed, and most of his failure (outside of not-killing Ialda except in the Happy End), was "time." As time moved forward, more people suffered and died. And were those deaths acceptable, worth it? To Negi, it was.
Xavier Clark
I'd love to continue this, but it's bedtime over here. I talk too much, and I'm still trying to build on the philosophy here, so I'll leave with my ultimate thoughts:
1. Negi's plan relies on "ultimate" meaning all life is meritable. Everyone deserves saving, and being saved is a good thing.
2. Cosmo Entelechia's "Heaven" solves every conceivable problem, INSTANTLY, with the exception that it's not an option for anyone to say, "no, I don't want Heaven."
And that's as simple as I can make it (which, being simple, means way too many assumptions are made without clarification but hey). Negi's solution isn't Heaven: it's existence as it currently is, prolonged. We are given indication that this prolonged existence is miserable for most, by the way. Not only that, it didn't account for continued unsustainable resources even when Earth becomes involved. Negi's solution requires humans to eventually abandon Mars and Earth anyway, once the resources are depleted. It's arguable, for as short-term successful his plan is, and the GENIUS he is for implementing it so quickly (in 40 years)...it still fails, long-term.
Isaac Phillips
Is she comando?
Dylan Collins
>Even if it is an illusion.
YOU
Christopher Ward
She's wearing something extremely highcut.
See
Jason Gomez
Also, I just want to say the manga art looks much better than the cover's art. Not just for the crotch shot, but the face.
James Cooper
Good thing, THIS time.
Colton Lewis
Yell squads are for faggots.
Wyatt Rogers
Is it isekai though? It's more akin to traveling to another continent.
Luke Ward
It is a different world on a dimension parallel to Mars. How would it not be isekai?