STUPID COMMUNISTS

Mine too, despite Zen's attempts.

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socialism always leads to totalitarianism, the Nat socs just acknowledged that as their starting point

Why would you post that cursed image

ONIONS
O
Y

wrong

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onions ooy?

Please stop.
Duck is cute.

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No

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That one's fine.

I heard according to a novelfag that ducklings and grand ducklings are canon

Based cuck.

WN skips straight to grandkids I believe, and I find all of it kind of uncomfortable. Tanya giving birth and all.
It's Tanya x Visha or bust.

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Is the mages equipment cannon? I mean anything that is not the gems, they are not in the manga but I'm not a novelfag and I'm curious

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But she can't maternity leave her way out of the army that way.
my guess is that the first sight she gets of menarche she'll start eyeing up the handsome officer cadet core for a husband.

Flying gear doesn't get brought up, especially not the other nations riding on horses and stuff like that. They do have rifles and Tanya does get the submachine gun, though the computation orbs are also handheld in the LN, so exactly how juggling both it and a rifle at the same time works is unclear. Bayonets isn't featured much in favor of special mage combat knives.
Kind of goes back to the explanation of how magic works and what the jewels do. Mages can affect their own bodies and what they directly touch naturally, but need tools to affect things at distance. The rifle functions like a scepter and fires their magical rounds, but the big deal is the orb, which is actually an advanced mathematical computation engine that allows them to do the necessary calculations to affect fixed points in threedimensional space with magic which they otherwise couldn't because it would be impossible to clearly define a random, loose point in space without their computational power.

Far as I know the grandkids thing is after Paperclip anyway.

literally nothing wrong or bad about communism
nobody can ever tell me the flaws when i bring this up
all they do is insult me because they know im telling the truth
dont @ me btw

Communism is objectively shit, central planning is suicidal

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(you)

Guess they added the flying gear to add some flair to each nation
And the empire has the only non retarded desing

You'd think Italy would have had their design.

>Trusting Italy to not fuck something up

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Communism can only work in a perfect society of robots or clones, humans are arseholes.

I honestly thought Yea Forums was shitting me but that many commie jokes in the official sub was fucking kino.

Which is which? I've heard they fake death And live peaceful. Other I've heard paper clip and alien's. Which is canon?

>Mfw saw this on a special screening in a cinema
>Get to Tanya dabbing hard on moscow
>Hear 50/50 nervous laughter and people shitting themselves laughing
I love to see nervous commies

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>Clones
Wouldn't change anything. Clones are just artificial twins, they aren't the exact same person. No more than identical twins are the exact same person.

>Robots
That would literally only work if robots are also the only consumers. Communism does away with pricing as a rationing method which allows for interplay between supply and demand. While robots can produce a set number of goods, they can't calculate how much demand there is for these goods because the wishes and whims of the people constantly change. By the time you've produced 100,000 fidget spinners, chances are half of those people don't want them anymore. Unless the consumers are all robots with fixed wants and desires.

Beria did literally nothing wrong, the accusations against him were made up by a kangaroo court to justify murdering him. There's no source for them other than biographies written with Khruschev era sources

Comunism takes away the value capitalism gives to human force by removing the concept of monetary value to the market. That means that in a comunist society everyone must be either heavilly controled to stop them form killing eachother or must have the same moral code and consequentially removing discourse from societty

ill try harder
Its got nothing to do with people being assholes, and everything to do with motivation. There's only intrinsic motivation, which can only get you so far, eg. sports.

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Wasn't into Tanya the evil yet and when I got into the movie already aired in my town. That would've made the movie even better to hear commie reee in person

Stalin literally told his daughter to GTFO of the house when he found out that guy was there alone with her

Neither is canon because its from the WN and probably won't be in the LN.

humans being arseholes does play an important part though.

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How can you say communism is bad if you never tried it before? You people are like picky kids who don't want to eat bell peppers.

Fools learn from their own mistakes, wise men learn from the mistakes of others.

USSR didn't have communism btw

The russian bolshevic revolution was literally a jewish coup funded by wall street bankers that made a mint asset stripping.

Yeah, obviously it didn't. Communism is an impossibility as it is a stateless society where all willingly work according to their ability and take according to their need. The USSR had socialism (it is in the name): the ideology that is supposed to prepare a society for communism through the dictatorship of the proletariat. Every single regime that tried to reach the Shangri-La of Communism failed precisely because Communism just that: Shangri-La. It doesn't fucking exist.

So the WN have alien's?

>It doesn't fucking exist.
Yet

>give absolute control to some fucks and tell him "now don't go full dick taters"
>expect this to lead to an eternal utopia
Capitalism is also doomed to fail, but it's a hell of a lot slower. Wanting to go from failing capitalism to communism is like finding out you'll be dying of cancer in 3-5 years and shooting yourself on the spot to spite the cancer. It's a political tantrum.
There's no reliable long-term governance that is both moral and run by mortal men, and it's even less reliable in the current year, where anyone with political ideals looks at all the Machiavellian schemers up top and takes that as an excuse to be a treacherous, undelimited fuck themselves. The west is at a record low for virtuous thought.

This has to be the ugliest character design I have ever seen. She looks like someone designed her to be as ugly as possible on purpose. Are you all blind?

The only part of that show that actually got a laugh out of me

I mean they did. The duck face was made to prevent as much lewding as they could

based

Socialist systems are dysgenic, they take hard earned resources away from those that do the work to earn them and give them to the feckless. this results in the hard workers having fewer kids, while the feckless have more
a fairly major chinese study estimated a minimum decline in IQ of at least 5 points since the introduction of communism there.

>a fairly major chinese study estimated a minimum decline in IQ of at least 5 points since the introduction of communism there.
Source? Big if true.

Flynn effect says otherwise.

please enlighten us about how it has anything to do with "being arseholes" commie.

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>we should give rights to clones and robots because that's the humane thing to do.
Boom it's over.

Sauce plz

There isnt any, because the reality is that the exact opposite took place.

Google "Flynn effect China"

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Communism kills more commies than anything else could

well they failed to stop the lewding at least for me

damn, Tanjiro aged like shit

kek

The flynn effect is actually a consequence of certain elements of IQ tests being trainable as a consequence of more societies the big one being higher literacy and familiarity with maths or abstract reasoning.
I forgot the source I read the paper about 6 months ago, Michael Woodley is a good place to start though given his research on changing patterns in reaction speed tests.
it's not like china is alone, female education is tragically negatively correlated with birth rate which is a sad consequence since naturally smarter women tend to seek more education...
according to historical analysis the upper 50% of the population by income had 40% more children surving to have their own children than the lower 50% imposing a gradual selection gradient that gradually increased intelligence and other positive traits.

The Flynn effect is bogus
It is a consequence of familiarity to elements of the test that are trainable or reducions in parasite infections or malnutrition.
Reaction speeds and working memory tests are untrainable along with other perception tests that reflect general cognitive ability otherwise known as the G factor

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>first season kills the frenchmen for me
>movie destroys bolshevism
This is porn specifically made for me.

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To implement communism in theory you first need to give all the power to the government, abolish private property and make everything owned by a few people which in consequence will have absolute power, with the monopoly of violence (laws) to kill anyone who dares to refute them with the pretext that they're doing it for the greater good or for a greater cause.

All that while the population is becoming poorer and poorer since everything owned by the state creates an artificial monopoly and is a fucking shitty service in general because they have no competition and incentives to improve their service or do a good job in the first place since there's no other alternative. And yeah every one becomes equal since everyone is fucking poor except oh wait, the people in power or the bootlickers/promoters of their fucking marxist propaganda.

Inequality is an absolute necessity for people, and by that I mean everyone, to become more and more rich as the time goes on. Just read some history.

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Tanya keeps being based

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youtu.be/g22Z66LdBuk

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very based indeed

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Red disgusting bolsheviks BTFO.

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>t. Angl*id cuckmaster

When you incentivize people to rat out their own neighbors or family members for 3 sacks of rice all that's left over is the scum. See: 'lost generation' of china
Communism breeds bad culture and venomous societies faster than anything

Is this from the movie? Where can I watch it if it doesn't air in theaters in my country?

Gut und Blut fürs Vaterland, Gut und Blut für unseren Kaiser.
youtu.be/AOvM-VDyc3w

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Beria apologia is next level shit.

kill la kill yourself commie

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Tanya is being a tsundere. She actually loves communists.

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Why is newest volume so shit? Nothing is happening, barely any Tanya, just a lot of literally whatever guys and politics.

It's on crunchyroll, or 9anime and other streaming sites but I'm not sure which ones have the official subs other than crunchy

>porky
t. marxist tranny.

Moon and later Mars and Tanya holds lectures on combating them.

You need to fucking stop.

Just pray he even finishes the series.

>nothing is happening

lol wut ? exluding the massacre of Athenes ?
the manga and LN were always about politics and strategy too , idk if we're really reading the same manga...

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Do you guys have any WW1 memorabilia?
I had a lot of fun wearing my uniform, drinking and smoking, while watching one of my mortal enemies get utterly humiliated.

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>t. insectoid commie

Whoa, deep

you're aware it was a communist party propaganda poster , right ?
also written in French , probably the PCF then.

God I can't wait till Eren Jaeger rumbles the world and kills all the communists complaining about "eldian supremacy" or "nazis deserve to be genocided." For every drawn communist getting squished by the rumbling I will have 10 orgasms.

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nah , i'm no insectoid , but if you're really enjoying seeing Frenchmen getting killed , you're probably a dirty A*glo subhuman.

Based EHrenchad

Nobody likes frenchmen, not even frenchmen.

>ehkeks still on this board after getting btfoed

>government mercantilism
>capitalism
yeah ok chief

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Not an Anglo. Just hate faggot frogs, their ugly language, decadent culture and obsession with republicanism.

>it- ts not true capitalism. True capitalism has never been tried!

>capitalism is everything commie propagandists point their finger at

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they're getting turned into another middle eastern style religious hell hole. are you sure you want that for them?

Man I sure love coming to Yea Forums to discuss political systems.

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Communism works fairly well in post-scarcity societies. The issue is that to attain post-scarcity, you need capitalism to drive research, efficient exploitation of resources, wealth creation, etc. Any attempt to create communism before that is deemed to slower economic growth and to create large amount of human suffering.

Marx was a decent economist. He made some wilful errors, most of all ignoring the machines' importance in the creation of value because it undermined his whole political philosophy, but with one or two additions his theories are solid. Certainly far more solid than the neoclassical macroeconomics, which have been, as far as I know, been proven wrong in every single occasions we tested them.

The issue is that those additions completely breaks communism as a political philosophy. Communism, as the political philosophy, what we call Marxism, is fundamentally wrong and flawed. Marx is a decent economist if you amend his theories, but if you amend his theories Marxism cannot and should not exist, by the conclusions of his own theory.

That's the bizarre paradox of Marx. Communism can and will probably exist in the future: communism as Marx envisioned it cannot and shouldn't exist, not if you're not a complete monster.

>streaming
You have to go back, newfag.

Tanya isn't a capitalist brainlet. She's a fascist. She likes structure and order. Stop projecting your politics onto anime characters.

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>speedwatching retard
okay

going by Marx definition well it's not
it seems like I've read more of your fucking shitty ideology than yourself

>Literally kills her subordinates if they disobey her
>hates communists
>kills her enemies
>praises fascists
>does not once say anything about supporting the free market
Yeah shes a fascist.

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im not a communist speed reader.

retard

>f*scist
to the chamber you too

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Is this a communist magi soldier?

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>post-scarcity societies
If they are achievable at all it would imply space exploration and advanced technology used for the resource extraction. But who would want some shitty decrepit ideology from the 19th century to be guide their lives when by that time AI-powered VR waifus will be real?

the original Fascii groups and their diverse philosophies from the turn of the 19th century honestly deserve more appraisal than to be tarred with the brush of "fascism bad" and dismissed out of hand they were exploring the very issues with today but disavowed the marxists as crazy...

>Literally kills her subordinates if they disobey her
Basement dwelling overweight SnK brainlet doesn't how army works, cute.
>hates communists
>kills her enemies
>praises fascists
Oh the horror x3. I'm glad Tanya makes your sore commie butt squirt with blood.
>does not once say anything about supporting the free market
She does it all the time, fuckbrain.

>Communism works fairly well in post-scarcity societies
Only because economies are literally defined by scarcity. Communism works if there is no scarcity because a lack of scarcity means there is no economy. In other words it's an economic system that only works when there's no economy.

That's like saying babies are good soldiers in a post-war society.

This. Thrown in the d*mocrats as well.

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>spooked ancaptard
Yare-yare

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Capitalist_System

>Anno Domini 2019 France surrenders while not even being at war with anyone
Get ready for Sedantag boys.

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>Americans wake up
>COMMUNISM IS GOOD LOLE FUCK MY ASSHOLE!

alot of these are warcrimes

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haha

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You know, user. I still like you more for actually posting about the series rather than fighting over unrelated shit, even if you post cursed lewds.
3 MB is still a bit much, though.

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>post-scarcity
why not just build a perfect good boy machine god to babysit humanity til the end of time by that point

Done by a woman

>self-patting intensifies
Meanwhile, you can say more things you won't be sent angry lynch mobs and have your bank account, etc. terminated after in Lithiania than in dumbfuckistan.

>the marxist propaganda hit him so hard
user USA is still on of the best countries of the world in matters of individual freedom
reality is not twitter screeching dumb fucks, Trump didn't won the elections by chance

Enjoy your freedom while it lasts (not for long)

I'm from Spain I already lost

And that's epic.

>user USA is still on of the best countries of the world in matters of individual freedom
*gets sued by the likes of ADL and SLPC*

yeah, to much nonsense in the thread.
I dont make these thinks. you reminded that i haven't checked pixiv in awhile. Theres more good stuff than bad there now atleast

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TRUE communism has never been tried

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Or because capitalist nations wage total war with them retard.
You won't say that though will you?

cool anime thread

>-b-but they were persecuted! a-also sanctioned!
Kill yourself, commie.

You lost nothing, we never had freedom in Spain.

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>WAAAAAAH COMMIE BAD CAUSE GOV DADDY SAY SO
Keep working now wagie, remember that autismbux and all free gov benefits are communism.
US and japan both have communism parties.

What is the harsh/bitter reality about job market in Eastern Europe?

>another thread of dumb channers babbling about how much they hate communists.

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Yeah, dysgenics is pretty much synonymous with communism. Doesn't mean that NEETs shouldn't be thrown into the streets and forced to join bums in dumpster-diving activities.
>US and japan both have communism parties.
Which are a total joke, only serving as a club for mentally ill people.

go dilate

>D8A5B1BF-C380-493F-A005-1(...).jpg
Sent from my iPhone

Axis and Allies were unified in their hatred of communism, dummy.

>CZ: Hey I'll just write a story to proof a point
>Adds isekai, reincarnation, gender bender, god, loli, magic, and a bunch of references (hey I'll call her "Mary Sue" for shit and giggles)
>CZ: This will be a work remembered for its hilarity
>A small-time hit, Enterbrain wanna publish it
>CZ: Looks like that's not enough. Better get some edgy character design. Oh and give them notzi uniforms.
>Sells moderately
>CZ: Welp better write something more ridiculous in the meantime. Communist Yugoslavia apologist novel maybe
>YS gets manga and anime
>CZ: This mangaka did nothing other than a Lelouch spinoff before. She seems alright.
>Manga actually well-received
>CZ: Better tell Hosogoe to make Tanya look as 'ugly' as possible. Oh and scrap that Wehrmacht uniform and redo Visha
>PV out
>CZ: Oh hey look, angry mobs shitting at the anime!
>Actually airs
>Runaway hit
>Triple bestseller
>Tanya got waifu'd
>Lewds
>CZ:AHAHAHAHA

Is HS the release to use for the movie?

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>JCP
>joke

How to spot someone that doesn't know the first thing about Japanese politics.

IQ is a metric which is only useful to measure if you're learning at the right rate and it's designed around western schooling.

Go back to gulag

>this thread

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Surprised the UK is that high what with all their completely cucked government.

What the fuck is this font, I can't even tell what that fourth word is

IQ has little to do with education since it reflects and underlying variation in cognitive ability and correlates in adults genetically at 60-80%.

Lol, fuck off, leftypol tranny. JCP is that Cold War era leftover that was propped up by China and the Soviet Union and now is so irrelevant, I doubt most Japanese are even aware that this political party still exists.

Fascist Spain ironically have more freedom desu

>looks like they skimped on the concrete.

Reminder that the only perfect system is capitalism regulated by an self-improving, self-aware AI with specific core rules that make it morally perfect.

Nah, not really, it was the same shithole it had always been but let's quit the politics and post cute ducks.

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>ignoring the machines' importance in the creation of value
He didn't, he goes into great detail about this in several of his works like Capital and The Grundrisse. If you understood the concepts of dead labor, living labor, and fixed capital you'd not say this. He's not even the first to observe this as Smith and Ricardo also did before him.

Typical champagne l*ftoids

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You don't know what IQ is. They measure roughly cognitive ability, which is useful: if you want to spot someone with major learning disabilities. And not much else.

>the kingmakers of anti-ldp efforts
>irrelevant.

You're a buffoon.

>Nah, not really, it was the same shithole
nah, you can literally call out homos,trannies and whiny minorities on their degeneracy instead of getting banned and chastised by the media.

>anti-ldp efforts
yep it's irrelevant. You chucklefuck lost hard against Abe.

>be in OTL asshole capitalist shill
>help them to oppress workers
>one of them strike back and kill him
>hate commies
¿Why am I not surprised?

We still need someone to rescue the English version of pic related from behind the paywall unless we want to wait for next Comiket when he'll sell the JP one and then get that translated instead of using the English source...

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kino

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What did the commie ESL spic mean by this?

interesting to see it wasn't a commie from the PCF who relayed this image but another commie socialist , France was such a shithole before De Gaulle rekt communism.

where do you find all those lewds ? pixiv ?

>You don't know what IQ is. They measure roughly cognitive ability, which is useful: if you want to spot someone with major learning disabilities. And not much else.
I don't see how that refutes his arguments at all, in fact it supports it. After all, those with the largest learning disabilities are unironically niggers and aborigines. A fact in which IQ test predicted sucessfully.

Actual Carlo Zen:
>I want to eat seafood. My stomach hurts. Getting old feels bad. Let's talk about the economics behind an Adventurer's Guild. It's quite hot this summer.

>dont @ me btw
Back to twitter along with your cancerous lingo you nigger

Sonzai EKKUSU must be behind this

yes.
i thought that was just a one off. wheres the pay site?

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Sonzai X is Carlo's twitter handle.

That might be one use for it but it is not the limit of its uses the army rejects anyone with an IQ of below 83 the average IQ of a physics or maths graduate is around 133
IQ correlates more strongly with life success than any other trait, your persistent denial of this factor is troubling because by ignoring it you allow problems to get worse and have no rational explanation for why certain groups such as those of african ancestral origin do so poorly at complex tasks. stop allowing an ideology that doesn't accept variation in human difference to cloud your judgement.

Ignore the cold hard realities of IQ at your own peril and the peril of your society.
At it's weakest IQ is only an estimate of the underlying general cognitive ability but the correlation is pretty high.

It's not a one-off. He posts a lot of those as teaser images for his Tanya x Lergen doujin he is working on and releasing in EN and JP online and will sell in print next Comiket in JP only. It's on Fantia here:
fantia.jp/fanclubs/4319

Heil Hitler!

Good luck, little Duck

Commies give Porky a leading party role and still let him exploit the working class.
NatSocs put Porky in a camp.

there's a reason why no one takes you ancucks seriously, you don't even know what capitalism is. stop listening to austrians if you want anyone outside your cult to care.

Why do you expect people to shun everything in life if they'd prefer society to be organized differently? What would that prove?

>IQ correlates more strongly with life success than any other trait.

Actually that's the wealth of your parents.

Rich black commit more crime than rich whites.

No they get convicted more.

This is the most typical misconception about communism: that it rests upon "morality" or "goodwill" of the majority to uphold it.
Communism rests upon incentive. You have an incentive to take part in collective administration of the means of production, instead of letting muh invisible hand destroy everybody's hard work.

>most of all ignoring the machines' importance in the creation of value
Why do you say that? If there's anybody who saw the importance of machines in the creation of value, it's Marx.

imagine believing that.
imagine being this naive.
imagine being born a commie in a rich civilized first world country.
imagine not being born in North Korea or China , the communist paradise.

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>USSR socialism
>leading space tech and about to overtake the US
>switches to capitalism
>dies

>"It's all... Being X's fault. Until I pound free-market principles into that piece of shit, I won't die, no matter what! I'm going to live... to live and... I'm going to end this!"
Episode 9, minute 20

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which correlate oddly enough at 60%+ with your own IQ,
you should look at wealth retention rates for lottery winners.

>USSR socialism
>millions die and economy collapses
>switches to capitalism
>millions don't die

>namecalling
do you have any arguments or care to explain your reason or is just that?

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They get convicted more because they commit more crimes.

>tfw they didn't listen to Kantorovich.

That's literally the only way you can measure "crime" because if you don't get a conviction then either they're innocent; or didn't get caught.

You always use indirect metrics to guesstimate this shit.

I surely wonder if this might be something to do with high quality education or something; almost as if this is what the system was designed for and people trying to use it for other things are basically trying to measure your ability to walk by looking at how fast you can swim.

>You have an incentive to take part in collective administration of the means of production
which lead to inefficient products and services that is handled by the most fucked up of all the invisible hands: the state. Fuck off commie

There are less people alive in the post-Soviet countries than there were before the breakup.

The best argument against communism is when Boris Yeltsin visited an American supermarket in Houston in 1989. Imagine his shock when fucking borderhoppers had access to more stocked shelves than even members of the communist party back in Russia.

Innocent "as far as the statistics are concerned" I meant to say.

I laughed

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USSR socialism could never succeed becuase there were too many different nations within it. It didn't fall apart because of "capitalism" but because countries under Russia revolted. The only socialism that worked was National Socialism where country wasn't divided. That's why socialism in US could never work. They hate each other too much and aren't bonded by similar values.

>leading space tech
Thank god they recruited German scientists
>about to overtake the US
Vatnik delusion

>>tfw they didn't listen to Kantorovich.
Kantorovich is a retard and a meme as is evident that his entire linear programming theory failed utterly hard in the end while capitalism dominates on all fronts. The ghost of the Austrians are laughing hard at the guy.

>That's literally the only way you can measure "crime"
It literally isn't since niggers have more conviction rate and commit more crime in literally every western countries they inhabit. We have state of the art technologies and method to calculate this shit and in every single one of them niggers always came out on tops even when you consider economic factor.

>I surely wonder if this might be something to do with high quality education
It isn't

>Communism rests upon incentive
Communism rest upon the labor theory of value which makes no fucking sense since ignores supply and demand and says that the price of things must be absolute

>There are less people alive in the post-Soviet countries
There are less people alive in general throughout all the developed and developing nations.

As I've said IQ is not a perfect metric but it correlates more highly with lifetime success than any other factor
if we correct for parental wealth we still see a correlation between IQ and success in their offspring

what's there to argue? almost every economist from smith to keynes knew what capitalism is, and it wasn't until kooks like mises and rothbard started pushing an idealist version of capitalism that isn't possible as the only version that is valid that we got you fucking idiots.

>keynes
>economist
OH NONONO HAHAHAHA
go break the windows of you neighbourhoods to stimulate the local economy my friend and stop replying to me, for real

That's wrong though. Most developed or developing nations saw an increase in population over the last 30 years, but the former Eastern Bloc is a notable exception. The world population has gone up over 2.5 billion over that time and if you think that's only in undeveloped nations you're a shill.

>That's wrong though.
m8, go look at Germany's, Denmark and numerous other social democrat countries. Their birth rate is low.

>The world population has gone up over 2.5 billion over that time
Thanks to capitalism of course.

keynes in later life reviewed some of his earlier ideas and developed a hatred for jews

>MC straight up quotes libertarian school of economics
>she's a fascist
lmao

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Wow it's almost like there was a world war and they had to singlehandely save the west from the nazi.

>Wow it's almost like there was a world war and they had to singlehandely save the west
America did that too and didn't even have its own economic system collapse and did a complete 180.

You could start from buying an affordable chinkphone, you champagne socialist faggot. But, no, status consumption is more important than following your bankrupt political ideology.

Ah, the old stalinist regime retort. USSR was state capitalist, it had to bring back the law of value, it had to compete with the west in the global market, which meant external pressures to production. And it wasn't a fair competition of economic systems, the USSR was under constant siege from the west and even then it managed to produce more consumer goods than ever in the history of Russia before Stalin took over.

>which makes no fucking sense
Only if you're a brainlet who doesn't distinguish between price and value. If you think "price=value" you need to study Smith and Ricardo before you even touch Marx.
It is supply&demand fags who ignore value, not the other way around. Marx incorporates supply and demand perfectly into his theory and explains rigorously why it isn't enough to regulate markets.

>Capitalism in charge of true efficiency and creating a surplus
Capitalism has no solution to true long run efficiency, and no incentive to maximize wealth, the opposite actually.

Capitalism cannot account for public goods, whether that be roads, subsidized electricity, or the environment. In any case where access cannot be restricted, capitalism will find an inefficient equilibrium. Capitalism also cannot ever attain "post-scarcity". Scarcity is the basis of capitalism, supply fluctuates to maintain scarcity. Capitalism maximizes efficiency in scarcity with truly variable inputs. It cannot and does not supply any other function. When resources are not scarce, or resources are not variable, capitalism does not function. The economist seeks to maximize wealth, the capitalist seeks to maximize efficiency. Wealth certainly is created in a capitalist society, but it is a side effect of capitalism, not the goal. Communism has the opposite problem. There is no structural incentive to control utilization. If access is not restricted (in capitalism this is cost) then there is no structural incentive for an efficient utilization of any resource. The only benefit is that there is no system in place that is directly opposing an attempt to regulate resource use, as is the case with capitalism.

>He made some wilful errors, most of all ignoring the machines' importance in the creation of value
This isn't something Marx ignored at all, Marx wrote an entire book about this. The value of capital in an economy is the defining feature of capitalism. When capital is a more valuable input than labor, you have inevitable stratification of wealth. If capital creates a cash flow that can be used to acquire more capital, labor will become increasingly marginalized, because capital is REQUIRED for production. If the laborers have no control over capital (the means of production) they have no control over their livelihood.

>Germany
10 million more people than they had 30 years ago
>Denmark
700k more
You're wrong and you're moving the goal posts. You said there were less people alive and you bow shift to pow birthrates. Stupid shill troll.
>Thanks to capitalism of course
Thanks to industrialization which predated capitalism

You have turned Youjo Senki threads into the worst garbage of the board.

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it's that shingeki no kyojin retard again , imagine having been so buttblasted over the "Tanya is a facist" argument that so many anons deconstructed last time while BTFOing you so hard you had to go on full damage control , that you HAVE to come and shit up a Youjo Senki thread again with your stupid rethoric.

get shot by the commisar communist turd.

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>implying they could have done anything without daddy America paying for them
>implying the Allies were the good guys

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Value is subjective you fucking retard. A bottle of water has a different value to some guy lost in the desert and to some guy who just drank water.

how much from immigration?

At least they're not dead for once

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Duck threads were really good before the BD release and ever since then they've been complete shit.

We had them like twice a week, lasting several days, before the movie.

The US wasn't a battlefield and didn't have to go into a war economy to survive. The US is safe from all sides by oceans and Canada to the north while the ruskies had enemies across all its borders which requires more to defend which is more in MIC black hole than could go into other things.

>Capitalism cannot account for public goods, whether that be roads, subsidized electricity, or the environment

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>Ah, the old stalinist regime retort.
Nah, it was old commie retort as evident by the fact that every single failed socialist countries tried the same shit and utterly failed hard.

>USSR was state capitalist
And there it is once again, the tired old memes repeated by every retarded Marxist for years to come. DO you retard actually think that true Marxist economic system can ever truly be implemented anywhere and at anytime in any place due to its inefficient and reductive economy(as evident by the fact that capitalist element began to crept up in the 1960s Soviet states to rectify production inefficiency).

>the USSR was under constant siege from the west and even then it managed to produce more consumer goods than ever in the history of Russia
Keyword there, in Russia. Everywhere else production began to sped irregardless of communism and socialism due to industrialism and heavy restructuring of post-war economy. Ironic, The Soviets failed really hard economically during peace time.

The ideas of laissez-faire and free trade started in the 18th century.

The reason that labor becomes marginalized is twofold, laborers must work, and work cannot be done without capital. Labor can exist at an inefficient equilibrium, because laborers have essential basic needs that must be met. Regardless of how a laborer values his time, he must work to fulfill his needs. Because laborers MUST work, there will always be an inefficient supply of labor, as wages decrease the labor supply stays _almost_ the same, again, it is impossible for the laborer to decide not to work if he wants to live. Eventually, a smaller and smaller group will have control over more and more of the capital, and therefore more and more of the means of production.

We can clearly see that Marx never ignored the machine's "importance in the creation of value", he argued exactly the opposite. As capital is becomes more and more valuable, labor is increasingly marginalized. Eventually, you end up at what is essentially debt bondage with extra steps.

I would agree that any system that can function under communism has essentially proved that it has no need for it. If a society is capable of creating and maintaining a post-capitalist state, then they have gained control over, and distributed capital in a fair and efficient way. If that isn't accomplished (as in the case of the USSR), then that society will once again collapse. What Marx referred to as the "fetish of capital" is simply a symptom of the desire for control, communism has no incentive to keep the means of production in the hands of the workers, beyond the idea of a some immutable post-capitalist state that reflects the will of the workers. Remember that Marx argued for the abolishment of the state because the state maintained the capitalist control of society (From the German Ideology), not that he believed that a state was unecessary, in Kapital he almost regretfully acknowledges that there needs to be some checks on production.

There are fates worse than death.

>being a unironical commie
What the fuck

Russia gave the Ukrainian SSR authority over Crimea during the USSR. When the USSR dissolved, Ukraine kept Crimea.

In 2014, Russia invaded Crimea using troops disguised as rebels. Russia claims Crimea wanted to be a part of the federation.

The UN wanted a Right to Self-Determination vote, but Russia said the US would rig it for Ukraine. Crimea has been a de facto part of Russia since.

Ukraine responded by sanctioning Russia along with many other countries. Crimea remains under heavy (Iran-tier) US sanctions to this day.

However, the main trading partner of most eastern oblasts of Ukraine is Russia. They are experiencing economic hardship moreso than Russia is from the sanctions.

Because Ukraine has a heavy language barrier, with the north-western government heart of Ukraine speaking Ukrainian and the south-east half speaking Russian, many Russian-speaking Ukrainians feel alienated by the nationalistic Ukrainian-speaking government.

As a result, rebellions against Ukraine are taking place in the east, funded and armed by Russia. Ukraine is in a state of civil war and technically is at war with Russia directly.

This complications its international situation. Ukraine has no allies. It cannot join the EU or NATO because it is at war with Russia. If it joined, the alliance would immediately be called in to fight World War 3 over a shitty Muslim peninsula. However, for strategic deployment, Crimea completely cucks Ukraine to the Black Sea.

In short: Ukraine is the most fucked country in Europe.

Fucking Nazis, killed 14 millions Ukrainians a year before they rose to power, but luckily Stalin stopped them single handedly.

Now this peak retardation right here.

>Capitalism has no solution to true long run efficiency, and no incentive to maximize wealth, the opposite actually.
The fact that you have enough money to buy a laptop or a PC to post this retarded drivel, the fact that you live in a comfy shelter equipped with various personal owned items, the fact that you even obtain the cash to fund that ever growing pile Marxist literature in your book cabinet and the fact that we live in the most developed time in history said the opposite of what you claim you retard.

>Capitalism cannot account for public goods, whether that be roads, subsidized electricity, or the environment.
Ah yes the same shitty public roads, shitty environment and subsidized electricity that only works half the time is a true testament to socialism and communism's glory.

While these are completely valid complaints against capitalism, communism is not the answer. Even now, with us arguably reaching peak capitalism with globalization and automation, there are government controls managing the limits of capital's dominance over labour. Managed capitalism, or capitalism with checks and balances provided by a functioning democratic government, is the only long-term viable economic model.

Mugabe is dead so another marxist bit the dust...shame he couldn't bare to live in the country he "transformed" so moved to singapore...

Holy shit please get the fuck out of this thread and this board with this garbage.

Is this the duck thread?

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The biggest issue that people run into is conflating finding problems with identifying solutions. Das Kapital is one of the best analyses of Capitalism as a whole. However, that does not make The Communist Manifesto the best analysis of a solution to capitalism.

Capitalism finds efficiency at the expense of wealth and long term stability, Communism incentivizes wealth and long term stability at the expense of efficiency( as has been pointed out, a massive loss of efficiency leads to basic needs not being met in the short and long terms)

The most important thing is to understand capitalism, and not to view it as a flawless solution to all economic problems. There are very real systematic issues with capitalism, and only by try to address those issues can society progress. Currently there is not structural solution to
1. Scarcity
2. Wealth stratification
3. The tragedy of the commons

Public goods in the sense of utilization, roads are artificial public goods, sorry if I didn't make that clear. An example of inefficient utilization of roads would be both heavy traffic, and a road that has been built and is underutilized, as a subsidized increase of users. Anyone who has been anywhere in Europe has seen both of these issues in action.

Fixed or limited electricity prices allow black/brownouts. I have money to pay for better electricity supply, however, regulation prevents the poor from being priced out of the market, and they over utilize.

The largest example, but one that is less objective and harder to see is the earth iteslf. It's impossible to prevent people from fishing, deforesting, etc. Capitalism structurally incentives these (short term) efficient utilization of resources, regardless of an inevitable long term inefficiency. If I can take a hundred fish out of the sea or a thousand fish, I'll take a thousand every time, it may be worse for society but it's better for me. If I don't do that I'll be replaced by someone who will.

>Save

This is actually one of the more intelligent discussions of capitalism and economic models I've seen on this site. That's not saying much, but it's better than raw sewageposting, at least.

Capitalism can be good, globalism isn't. Globalism caused open borders for cheap uneducated labour, big corporations moved to China/Africa where they take advantage of cheap labour and have less restrictions regarding pollution.

it's almost 2020 and redditfugees are still fuming over this lel

>USSR was about to overtake the US in tech and economy in 1991

So this is the power of Commie intelligence? Now post Tanya.

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Quack

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>the fact that you even obtain the cash to fund that ever growing pile Marxist literature in your book cabinet
Imagine calling someone retarded and then insulting them for reading. I also have The Wealth of Nations, On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation, and Principles of Political Economy. Maybe unsurprisingly, those books reinforce most of what I've said. Maybe you should spend more time reading and less time calling things you don't like "peak retardation" Again, it's important to understand that creation of wealth is a side effect of capitalism, not the goal. Capitalism will always maintain scarcity, because it inarguably requires scarcity to function. Capitalism equally incentives and opposes the creation of wealth as it tries to find efficiency. It is essentialy to understand this if you want to have any meaningful discussion of economics.

>Ah yes the same shitty public roads, shitty environment and subsidized electricity that only works half the time is a true testament to socialism and communism's glory.
Identify a structural component of capitalism that causes a public good to be utilized efficiently.

We need a Star Trek society

>The tragedy of the commons
That only exists under capitalism. Prior to capitalism and the enclosures the commons exists perfectly well for thousands of years. The TotC shows that when private property holders are allowed to exploit natural resources without worrying about the detrimental effects, they fuck it up as fast as possible. Air, water, forests, mountains, plains, space, you see it everywhere and it's not a peasant with a goat to his name doing it.

>insulting them for reading
Clearly, you are not reading.

Globalism is the logical result of expanding markets and tightening profits. The only way to get around markets being restricted to national borders is to expand your borders, and that's how we got those world wars a little while ago among others.

Yes I did identify it as a structural issue with capitalism. I wouldn't argue that it is an issue solely with capitalism, the goal of any fisherman is to catch the most fish. Capitalsim simply provides the structural incetive to maximize fish caught. So yes, it makes the issue significantly worse, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that without capitalism there would be no pollution or long term inefficiency.

Use value is subjective, friendo, and it functions exactly as you said.
Commodity value is not subjective and it is not determined by supply and demand, but by socially necessary labor time, a term you need to learn before joining discussions about Marx on burmese avocado-picking bulletin boards.

>(as evident by the fact that capitalist element began to crept up in the 1960s Soviet states to rectify production inefficiency)
Thanks for trying to restate my argument, however you're wrong. The capitalist element crept up with NEP (and Lenin admitted it was a backwards measure, taken only because it was -war- that destroyed the Soviet economy, not inefficiency) and exploded with the first 5-year plan. I'm gonna ignore your "everywhere else" argument, as USSR's satellite states did not even have workers' councils, they in fact suppressed revolts that tried to establish such attempts of workers' government (see Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia). If you wanna whine about inefficiency in the USSR, you're whining about competitive accumulation of capital in capitalism, not about socialism. It's not like capitalism isn't throwing away metric tons of unsold products.
Russia in 1917 was a genuine revolution and its victory had tremendous effects on both production and living standards.

>post-scarcity societies
Post-scarcity is a meme. We don't live in outer space with replicators. You cannot have infinite population and economic growth in a closed system like the Earth is. The reason why the world is turning to shit is because of overpopulation, end of story. Malthus was completely correct in his calculus, the industrial revolution merely kicked the can down the road a bit longer.

Capitalism and communism are both unsustainable.

Identify a structural incentive inherent in capitalism to maximize wealth.

>the only alternative to communism is capitalism

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Of course I am not saying markets should be restricted to national borders BUT it shouldn't be as benefitial as it is now to own a factory in China rather than in US/EU. Environmental restrictions should be universal and companies shouldn't pay 3rd world workers under minimum wage. If something like that is done we could actually save environment and companies wouldn't move out so much.

>The only way to get around markets being restricted to national borders is to expand your borders,
But that's completely wrong. The best way around borders is to be completely exempt from borders. That's why big boy capitalist can pay two bowls of rice to slaves in India, charge full first world rates in california, and pay 100% notaxes in Sweden.

>Capitalism finds efficiency at the expense of wealth
What the hell are you on about, wealth has dramatically increased for everyone over the last two centuries and that's mostly thanks to the free market.
>and not to view it as a flawless solution to all economic problems
It's the best economic model we have and all others that have been suggested have been complete failures.
>Scarcity
If we ever solve that solution then there would be no need for an economic system.
>Wealth stratification
There's more social mobility in capitalist countries than in socialist countries.
>That only exists under capitalism
>what is the aral sea
And that's just one example. Prior to capitalism there wasn't much pollution or environmental degradation because the industrial revolution hasn't started yet. Also monarchs treat public areas like their private properties. The public areas in the UK that are managed by the royal family are much better maintained than those managed by the government. A fisherman has an incentive to earn a profit and keep earning a profit as the years go by therefore he has an incentive to make sure his private lake doesn't run out of fish. Of course idiot fishermen exist as well but capitalism is all about competition and so these idiot fishermen will soon be driven to bankruptcy.

>Soviet Union in 1926
>not cozy avangardist revolution-inspired aestetics with NEP

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Hatred of capitalism is mostly driven by jealousy and laziness.
That being said, capitalism is unsustainable in the long-term (unless we colonize space).

>Environmental restrictions should be universal
That's the problem with you guys, you are too idealistic. How the fuck are you going to convince China and India to protect the environment?

Can we stop conflating communism with state capitalism?

Communism comes from a state-driven economy, but not every state-driven economy is communist or even socialist. If it were that way, I could argue that the good ol' US of A is communist because Trump is trying to give state directives to US industries and banks or that post-war Japan has been communist because the state directly interfered with the economy for decades (and both are just as inefficient, judging by their economic performance right now).

>muh Aral sea
Private owners of cotton farms after dissolution of SU only increased consumption of water and didn't give a fuck about fishermen.

Maybe the first world shouldn't declare every single thing the developing world tries to do to reach first world living standards (with associated first world earnings and cost of labour) as violating environmental restrictions, when it's the same damn thing the first world did ages ago to get to where they are.
For example, Europe destroyed all their own forests and wiped out their own native wildlife over centuries to become rich and powerful enough to dominate the third world. Now they are pulling up the ladder behind them by telling Malaysia and Indonesia that they cannot build palm oil plantations, which provide an income and living for many low income smallholders and lifted them out of poverty, because of the fucking orangutans. At the same time, launching boycott campaigns to wage economic warfare against these countries.

>(unless we colonize space)
that's just going to give us space zionism

>NatSocs put Porky in a camp.
>implying I'm paying anyone to keep them alive

>Hatred of capitalism is mostly driven by jealousy and laziness.
Nope. If you attend strike rallies, you'll find out that hatred of capitalism is mainly driven by making people's wage lives unsustainable, even as they exceed normal work hours.

It was the soviets that started fucking up the aral sea way back in the 60s you fucking cunt. Not really surprised that a commie would lie about something that can be so easily debunked.

> unless we colonize space
Technically the fastest way to mine rare metals is to take a nice 5km asteroid and drop it straight into the ground. Under capitalism that is a perfectly efficient solution and maximizes profit.

>What the hell are you on about, wealth has dramatically increased for everyone over the last two centuries and that's mostly thanks to the free market.
Again, capitalism does not maximize wealth, it maximizes input EFFICIENCY. learn how to calculate an equilibrium price.
>It's the best economic model we have and all others that have been suggested have been complete failures.
This doesn't make it flawless. There are issues that Capitalism does not have an structural solutions for, and I have listed them in this thread.

>Can we stop conflating communism with state capitalism?
I don't think anyone has done that.

Their own workers and leftist activists are gonna do that, you have to convince your own country.

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No, what happens in space industry? you still get shit wages while the elite take 99% of it.
They are already trying to but guess who's stopping them? the grubby capitalists.
So greed? just like communism then, capitalism's flaw is human ego.
Stirner.

Why don't the scrawny onions communist fags just put all their resources together and make their own socialist country? Go prove us wrong cunts.

>I also have The Wealth of Nations, On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation, and Principles of Political Economy.
Which proves my fucking point that capitalism managed a retarded individual pseuds like you to obtain the necessary capital to not only own an arbitrary amount of books but to also purchase the machines of which to post your argument. Capitalism true goal all of this time is to allow any individual to elevate their economic means and freedom to trade with other parties. That is it and the fact that it managed to do that successfully by raising the development index of every single developed and developing nations ever speaks to how successful it is. The only way that you're so caught up about the failures of capitalism is because you view it on a Marxist lenses which predicates that capitalism will be the death of the working class and the destruction of the economy when that has never been the case at all.

>creation of wealth is a side effect of capitalism, not the goal.
The fact that it managed to create wealth as a side effect speaks to how efficient it really fucking is since all other methods of economic system failed utterly hard. For all your talk of an alternative economic system, you literally gave 0 fucking models, methods, statistics, numbers or any concrete evidence that such alternative economic systems would provide the same efficiency Capitalism.

>Capitalism will always maintain scarcity, because it inarguably requires scarcity to function.
Notice that you didn't even try to delve into how a post-scarcity society can be achieved. Protip: it can't, you'll have to defy the law of the universe itself to even try your own brand of infallible utopian socialism.

>Identify a structural component of capitalism that causes a public good to be utilized efficiently.
Public and private investment towards roads, highways, air traffics, water purifier, numerous energies sectors and mores.

>Commies
Nope, tankies did that. Also, Nazis destroyed their own country trying to chase the jewish spook and in the process killed any Jew who would oppose the formation of the State of Israel in the future.

Imagine not being ecofascist

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>Let's talk about the economics behind an Adventurer's Guild.
I'm waiting.

>employers have the duty to give me as much of their money as I think I need
jealousy and laziness
no one is forcing you to work for them, your boss gives you money in exchange for a service, that makes him your client, not your owner. if you don't like it fuck off
>work hours
bullshit regulations making employing more people expensive is what makes your hours so long

>maximize wealth
What a useless term. Human needs and desires are infinite so it's useless to talk about maximising wealth. The free market increases everyone's standard of living.
>This doesn't make it flawless
I never said it's going to solve all of our problems. So far though it's the best economic model

Simply by forcing companies to pay environmental taxes or something like that. It can be done.

>For example, Europe destroyed all their own forests and wiped out their own native wildlife over centuries
?????
One of the richest countries have ALWAYS been very green like Sweden or Austria. The pollution is a problem because globalists use your country for cheap labour. I dont have a problem if your companies do this but it's mostly western ones that do this on a much bigger scale than your own could.

>the grubby capitalists.
Call them globalists (most big corporations go under that branch of capitalism).

>Human ego
Sustaining yourself isn't a spook, it is material reality. Even if you have no ideology at all, you still need to eat and protect yourself from rain and your own shit. If you call that "greed", you have successfully spooked yourself, elevating basic needs in and of themselves to the level of ideology, borrowing a term from a major ideological apparatus (the church) just to play yourself against your own interests.
Marx

Please delete this gayass thread

>Simply by forcing companies to pay environmental taxes or something like that. It can be done.
How are you going to convince China and India to raise environmental taxes?

>Jesus Christ the retardation of this post
>Thanks for trying to restate my argument, however you're wrong.
>Russia in 1917 was a genuine revolution and its victory had tremendous effects on both production and living standards.
Do you even realize why the so called """"""successful"""""" revolution in the 1917 failed utterly hard and had to resort to implementing capitalist mode of economy in later years? Because that retarded revolution destroyed the economy so hard that during its lifespan, the USSR have never managed to outcompete the US economy at any time despite your claim that somehow command economy would make things better.

>I'm gonna ignore your "everywhere else" argument, as USSR's satellite states did not even have workers' councils, they in fact suppressed revolts that tried to establish such attempts of workers' government (see Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia).
Falling right into my trap, notice that your precious """""efficient""""" socialist government didn't even try to implement the idealized economy of what they all strived for even though they have ample opportunity to do it? Because socialism and communism is a fucking retarded, inefficient mode of economy and workers don't have an ounce of idea of how everything work. Your entire argument fell apart by the mere mention of the Kulak genocide.

how do you define wealth? cause it's a pretty worthless term in my standards
>This doesn't make it flawless
most of the problems you listed are non issues

The camps pay for themselves.
>Nazis destroyed their own country
Yeah, it sure weren't those Jewish sponsored firebombs dropped by the Allies.

>no one is forcing you to work for them
All of them collectively force you to work for whoever one of them you choose.
>your boss gives you money in exchange for a service
The value you gain in money form is less than the value your boss gets from your work. The exchange isn't equivalent. This doesn't make him your owner, but it does make him your exploiter.
People who think the human population needs to reduce itself should start with themselves. Kill yourself.

>One of the richest countries have ALWAYS been very green
The strongest European colonial powers deforested like mad to become industrialized and rich, and have now the hypocrisy to try and stop their former imperial subjects from following them and rivalling them under the guise of "think of the orangutans".

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it's related and also talked in the show so I don't see why it should be deleted

>The best way around borders is to be completely exempt from borders.
Yes, but that's globalism, the specific thing trying to be avoided. As you can see it's a natural progression of capitalism whether you like it or not. Capitalists like it so they don't care what anyone else thinks, it's their system after all.

The movie was really good, but I feel a bit blueballed in that we didn't get closure on Mary Sue.
Hearing Tanya shit all over commies was satisfying too
Based Japanese business man

Basic needs isn't greed and is even mentioned in the bible that if you cannot afford to sustain your family then do not donate or help the needy, you must help yourself first.
Your ego is not a spook, it is sin that will kill and rape for your satisfaction and try to justify it.

The gear design and the magic design is great.

Wow, nice anime thread

>Call them globalists
Such a misleading term. How are they not still capitalists? How are non-globalist capitalists any better?

nice thread , it's like being on /pol except with less jews.

Not him, but you probably haven't worked a day in your life. Employers in a pure capitalist system will fuck over their workers as hard as possible, as long as they don't die (or at least too many of them). You may think the worker is better off moving to a competitor, but the lower prices generated by shit-tier wages and compensation stifle any decent-paying competition, and leave the entire market in a race to the bottom. So you need a certain base-line minimum for compensation, otherwise you get runaway income inequality, which is arguably happening now. This ultimately leads to social discontentment and more idiots espousing communism as something actually viable, because they can see themselves being shafted so hard in a capitalist system.

Are you really certain that it's less jews?

harsher environmental sanctions should have been imposed on the developing nations in the nineties and china, india and other developing nations wouldn't have the pollution problems they have now
europe developed their economies under a far lower population density then these developing economies are doing now meaning that their actual impact was somewhat less
overpopulation and shifting demographics are the greatest threat to the future planet.

Employers can't get away with paying less than employees are willing to work for.
Literally impossible.
The problem is the country is flooded with fucking illegal mexicans who'll clean your whole house for a penny.
The problem is lax border security and immigration vetting

/leftypol/ autism is strong in this thread

it was literally on purpose lmao

/pol/shit doesn't belong here

Employees need to eat and sleep under a roof. And if they can not compete with the employer because of the prohibitive capital investment, they are forced to work for an employer. And because of the race to the bottom I mentioned, with the lowest price producer beating any others that offer better compensation, you have an overall erosion of conditions for anyone who doesn't start with a significant pool of capital already.

>immigration
It's still way fucking cheaper to stick the factory/call center/whatever in the poor country than to move the poor people to the rich country.

By higher tariffs on products from companies that aren't green enough. China would quickly adapt to new rules but the biggest problems would be to convince big corporations who'd make less money.

Watching YS i keep thinking how there are good movies with good actor chilren in them and wonder if a movie could be good, ignoring how Hollywood loves to destroy jap things when they could make it justice.

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>overpopulation and shifting demographics are the greatest threat to the future planet.
Soil erosion and population collapse in the world oceans due to pollution are more urgent matters that will solve the ones you mention by killing off most humans on the planet. If you can't plant crops anymore and catch trash instead of fish you worrying about immigrants will be pretty stupid.

>All of them collectively force you to work for whoever one of them you choose
no they don't. there's a number of people who started their own businesses without any money to get started by picking cans on the road. the only instance where you can't do things like that is when government regulations forbid you. start your own damn business.
>The value you gain in money form is less than the value your boss gets from your work. The exchange isn't equivalent. This doesn't make him your owner, but it does make him your exploiter
yes it fucking is, voluntary transactions are not a sum that equals zero, they produce positive value to both sides. you only waste time and effort in something if you think it's worth more than the time and effort you would spend doing something else. if you work shit hours for little money but still keeps going that means the job is worth more to you than the instability of having none

Mexicans don't work in call centers, most can't even speak english.
They mow lawns, build structures, clean houses, clean dishes, etc.
Low skilled low paid work that would be far less low paid if they weren't around.

Yea Forums is pro commie and you need to go back to slave work for your boss masters if you aren't.

jews hates japs , doubt they like anime anyway.
especially anime that depicts something close to WW1 and WW2 , it's like in their blood to fear the Germans.

>You may think the worker is better off moving to a competitor
no, I think the worker is better off starting his own business

it's not and never was , go back to r*ddit.

Duck face is sexy as hell.

>Moooooom, give me more tendies; no I can't look for a job, I told you, working is for suckers, and anyways I'm busy telling people why working is for idiots on a pagan goat sacrificing tapastry

What is it like to live in Siberia?

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Biodiversity only dropped after 1850, exactly where your gif stops. That level of deforestation only helped the local wildlife, unlike what's happening in the third world.

>blah blah inefficiency
If you weren't spazzing out like a primate, you would have read:
>it was -war- that destroyed the Soviet economy, not inefficiency
USSR had some of the biggest growth rates compared to before the revolution, even during the Stalinist era, and found enough value to invest in consumer goods and culture, even in the middle of war. Even after it lost, the revolution had managed to take a vast medieval shithole and turn it into a modern superpower.
Thing is, you think you got me into a pickle, but I'm not arguing that the USSR was a communist economy. I agree that it was inefficient, but that's capitalism, not communism. Not all state-driven economies are communist. If anything, you're a capitalist apologist, so you should admire the USSR, it pointed the way for all modern capitalist superpowers, this is how they all work nowadays.

Is Tania going to fuck Frog chan?

When I got my first "real" job (i.e. not internships or whatever) they asked me for my salary expectations.
I told them what I thought was reasonable.
They accepted.

Have a backbone.
If you're a skilled and motivated worker they'll be willing to pay good money for you
Work on improving yourself so you're not competing for dish washing gigs

Yea Forums was a mildly apolitical troll farm made for moot to get loli lewds. You normalfaggots that came over a decade later can't change that.

Notice how all these retarded commies never ever mention the economic calculation problem. In the absence of a price system how would central planners be able to efficiently allocate the factors of production in complex supply chains?

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Realtalk: To all the NEET commies in this thread.
Why no just go innawoods if life in civilisation is so horrible?
People have been homesteading for literally thousands of years, and these days it's easier than ever.
You don't have to live in this society if you think it's terrible

Which they can't do because it requires a large amount of upfront capital.

>Employers can't get away with paying less than employees are willing to work for.
>Literally impossible.
What is slavery for £0?

you claimed it was pro-comie , you are wrong.
it never was and will never be.

The amount of effort put into creating a product dictates the price.
I'm not even joking, this is literally what commies think is a good idea.
I could build a wheelbarrow with nothing but 7th century blacksmithing tools and it'd have a higher value in their system than a 2019 Lamborghini

There is nothing left to homestead. The woods are all owned by either private owners or the government and you'll be considered trespassing and forcibly evicted or killed. All that died in the enclosures. There's nowhere to go.

Some say that modern computers could do it, and they also have long chains of argumentation working on the idea of amount of labor as value, but it's still shallow and weak and doesn't answer anything.

I'm not the other poster you newfaggot.

no it doesn't
stop thinking starting a business is opening an entire factory. you don't even always need money to get started. many people started their business with money they got from picking cans. the very poverty ridden scenario you imagine creates demand for security guards

That would also mean that the work of a retard is worth more than the work of a master since the retard has to put in more effort.

This is wrong.
There's vast tracks of uninhabited forest in burgerstan that nobody would ever find you in, and squatting laws that explicitly work in your favor
I mean, I hate squatter's rights laws, but they are a thing

then don't reply stoopid desu~

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>Yeah, it sure weren't those Jewish sponsored firebombs dropped by the Allies.
It weren't actually. The firebombs sealed an already lost deal. Hunting Jews was a pipe dream, but it had real consequences for the German workers. The camps didn't pay for themselves, the Holocaust industry, the systematic suppression, detainment and elimination of Jews robbed the Reich of so many resources and allocated so much needed infrastructure and state power, fueled so much hatred against it (that translated into decreased morale for the German troops and increased for the Allies; plus, the Nazis had no way to incentivize captured populations to convert politically on a mass scale, unlike their enemies) it cost the whole war.

Follow your leader and kys.

>You don't have to live in this society if you think it's terrible
You literally do considering that freedom of movement doesn't exist under capitalism and the primary means of human survival are all restricted by ones access to capital. This was a key argument made by socialists against utopianism, that you can't change a macro-economic system of property relations and a mode of production by being more ethical or starting your own commune with blackjack and hookers since the system itself will grind you into dust using state power and the hoarding of resources.

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That's fine for high-skilled jobs (which thank fuck I'm in now), but I've also worked low-skill jobs (grocery store), which are still needed by the economy but are basically as low-tier as they can get. Their wages barely budge above the bare minimum, even after years of service, and any excuse they find to cut hours, they'll take, leaving a store with low morale and barely sufficient staffing. The people protesting about the failure of capitalism and saying nonsense like communism is a good idea are not those in high skill positions, but there's still strength in numbers, and they are still needed in the economy. Especially in a democratic system, where they can vote. Which is why its beneficial to enact policies to manage wealth disparity, from a social point of view (there are economic arguments as well, but I'll skip over those for now).

Yes
There's absolutely no reason in a communist system to ever improve your skills, tools, or methods
All that matters is the effort you put in, not how much you produce or how good the product is
It's pure insanity

Again, you're spooking yourself.
Your ego will try to kill and rape for a while, then realize the inefficiency (not immorality, mind you) of it all and try to peacefully negotiate the satisfaction of its own needs with other egos: this is where the ego and its own stops and society begins.
Gramsci

All you need is a book on survival (I highly recommend The SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman) and a few basic tools like a hatchet, knife, flint based fire lighter, and the clothes on your back.
How the fuck did you think people survived 1000 years ago without modern tech, dude?
What you NEED is very little and very cheap; modern society has just conditioned you to think that running water and solar panels are essential to life.

>USSR in the 20s
>capitalist
That's beyond retarded. In a forced allocation axis/free markets axis the Soviet Union would be closer to forced allocation than to the free markets

>not immorality, mind you
speak for yourself

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Everyone who whines about society won't do that because they're cowards who are all talk

The thing is about jobs at grocery stores is, you're not supposed to work them forever.
They're stepping stones.
People fuck up by thinking that stacking shelves is a career rather than something to earn them a little dough while they're self improving

>uninhabited forest
Uninhabited doesn't mean unowned. Do you not know how absentee ownership works? You could squat on a house for years, but the moment the owner halfway around the planet finally notices they'll have the local cops drag you out in cuffs or a bag. Squatters rights laws are usually just old common law courts don't give a shit about nowadays while they throw you in prison and legally enslave you.

>Why no just go innawoods if life in civilisation is so horrible?
Most of the land in my country has already been "leased" to foreign companies, who have armded guards and aircraft combing them constantly to keep intruders out.

>You don't have to live in this society if you think it's terrible
Even if i were to check out of the system, my relatives and friends would be still be caught in it, and the machine will keep grinding on and on until the biosphere is destroyed. Individualist isolation is a liberal pipedrea, only collective and organized action can have an effect on politics.

If you only improve yourself because you want money and never for self improvement or curiosity or fun you're a sad fucker. Then again we are on Yea Forums.

>only collective and organized action can have an effect on politics.
Maybe your family don't have radical beliefs like you.
Maybe they don't want you to effect politics.
Maybe that's just a selfish egotistical idea.
Maybe you should just go innawoods and stop fucking things up for people who don't think like you.

>How the fuck did you think people survived 1000 years ago without modern tech, dude?
you're missing the point dude. You can fuck off into the woods and maybe survive but if you do that then nothing will change about society and eventually you'll be arrested on anti-vagabond laws.

>start your own damn business.
Yeah, ok. Start your own business and produce the same thing as 32 other businesses, driving the value of whatever you produce further down, and bringing the next recession sooner. I mean, sure, if you can make the money out of your wage in the first place.
>they produce positive value to both sides
No, they don't, you dingus. The exchange between boss and wage worker is positive for the boss and zero-sum for the wage worker. No matter how much value you add to your ability to work, your wage will never make you as rich as your boss, even though you are producing more than your boss. Idiot.

not this user but :
uninhabited and owned doesn't mean shit , if you land freedom , go to Iraq or Syria , it's so chaotic that nobody will ever bother you and if you're pushing your luck , you could try Afghanistan as well.
but commies are cowards so they won't do it.
plenty of third world shitholes were land is literally free and doesn't mean shit.
you could try mingling with niggers in Africa also.

Nothing says trade will stop, education still exists and it all goes to everyone.
Instead of merchants getting everything it will be divided to the people.
>try to peacefully negotiate the satisfaction of its own needs with other egos
Yeah communism, ego does not stop in capitalism, try again.

Who wants to wager this guy things reading the political / philosophy books or watching a documentary is self improvement.
That kind of "self improvement" is masturbation, and is best left to people who are wealthy enough not to want for money.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatters_rights

As the other user said minimum wage jobs are for teens and young adults. What you faggots forget is that as the year go by workers earn more money.
>The people protesting about the failure of capitalism and saying nonsense like communism is a good idea are not those in high skill positions
The term champagne socialists exists because there are so many upper class twats who have been brainwashed by marxist university professors.

That's pretty egotistical of you, why aren't you saying anything about the people keeping me from going innawoods? now you're making up stories to make us bad guys so you can kill us and take our money.
Capitalists pigs everyone.

We're not shittalking civilization, we're shittalking capitalism.
Books of survival are products of civilization, which brings me to the point above.

>USSR had some of the biggest growth rates compared to before the revolution
And if you can read or into math it was still lower than that of capitalist countries, defeating the notion that it is somehow a superior economy you brainless retard. The fact that it somehow turns a backwater shithole into a slightly better backwater shithole with a nuke that inevitably breaks down in the end speaks to how godawful the whole system really is since every developed western countries have nuclear capabilities in the end irregardless of communism.

>Not all state-driven economies are communist.
Of fucking course not but we've seen first hand on what the first stepping stone(socialism) to communism turned out and it is wise to avoid that kind of failure in the future.

>That kind of "self improvement" is masturbation
You're right about that, which is why I don't bother with that shit since it's worthless and ignores systematic issues in favor of individualist self-wank. You could go clean your room though.

>Nazis saved the economy
>build the Autobahn
>rebuild the industry
>eradicated the unemployment
>ended the inflation
>turned a defeated nation into the greatest superpower of it's time
>"No, actually everybody hated this"
>"The Nazis just ruined Germany"

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>education still exists and it all goes to everyone.
It have always belong to everyone including the slaves. Some people are just too retarded, like commies.

>STUPID COMMUNISTS
Yeah, identity politics goods, m8.

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>As the other user said minimum wage jobs are for teens and young adults. What you faggots forget is that as the year go by workers earn more money.
the majority of minimum wage workers in the US are full grown adults and most Americans have seen no wage increase period.
again, missing the point. And squatters rights rarely holds up in court because it turns out the legal system favors property owners, whowouldathunkit.

>The people protesting about the failure of capitalism and saying nonsense like communism is a good idea are not those in high skill positions

Traditionally, the backbone of a workers' revolution are skilled workers in high skill positions and with high wages, who are more educated and have a better grasp of how the system works.

Nah dude, me raising a stink about sexual harassment,and threatening to strike for 3 weeks, got my aunt(Medical IT) her first raise in 8 years. If i were a cuck completely divorced from any sort of political power i would consider checking out of society.

> stop fucking things up for people who don't think like you.
Lucky me, i don't care about anticommunists and their feelings.

Communists tend to be equally into identity politics as Nazis
The difference is they're self hating whites who worship gays and minorities instead of self loving whites who hate gays and minorities

Fair point, although if everyone followed this career path, we'd have a shortage of low-skill workers. We ultimately need to reward hard workers while not pissing off low-tier workers enough that they elect radicals.
Income inequality is what a lot of this comes down to, and it's not just unmotivated workers. Generational transfer of wealth and capital accumulation is ultimately detrimental to society as a whole, and capitalist development as well.

>Aunt works at same place you do
Congratulations on your white penis, son of nepotism and everything wrong with capitalism

It doesn't belong to everyone in a capitalistic state, now go pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to go top school and if your asian you pay more.
Hurry up before the time period is over pig or you get fined for not going to school.

Why is Greta so flat? She looks like a kid. Malnutrition?
Why did the new generation choose THAT as their leader?

Fuck communism and fuck capitalism.

blame yourself if you can only think of saturated markets to start businesses in dumbass. there will always be something in demand because human desires have no ceiling
>The exchange between boss and wage worker is positive for the boss and zero-sum for the wage worker
if it was a zero sum you wouldn't waste your time in the job you absolute retard. you seem to think on the premise that everyone has the right to a stable living and if things don't get better over time it's a zero sum game. but you were born poor, ignorant and naked, the natural state of man is absolute misery, and that includes having no job. again, you waste time on a job is done because you think the time and effort invested in it is worth more than being jobless. this is a net gain positive

>Iraq
Desert owned my multinationals with mercenaries willing to kill anyone they see.
>Syria
The government controls most of it now, the rest is controlled by the Turks or Rojava, or isolated pockets of ISIS and other militants. Rojava is the best option of them.
>Afghanistan
Tribes already claimed and occupy most of it, the government or the US masters claim the rest.
>third world shitholes
I thought AnCaps already claimed Somalia as their Randian homeland

>Aunt works at same place you do
When did i say that? I have my own business, which is why i have a lot of free time.

Ah, you're a drug dealer, like most commies.

And somehow striking helped your aunt.

No need to explain, user, I understand

yeah why care about politics when they define the environment you live in xD

youtube.com/watch?v=xTgoSa7nzjo

there's literally nothing wrong with nepotism as long as it's not government work

Good point, although the ultimate source of the problem (perceptions of income inequality, or an overly skewed distribution of a society's resources) is the same.
I've honestly kind of lost the conversation. What are we arguing about here? Are we even arguing? Seems like we mostly agree with eachother at this point.

Guess what made them that way? capitalist nation waging war retard.

>The difference is they're self hating whites
No need to hate on me, but it smells like projecting.

While one could spin current murica in whatever light convenient, there's plenty of 'self hating whites' right there while going full capitalism.

While conversation arguing about different "ism's" is dumb in itself.... Bah, fuck it, not going to argue in this time waster.

>as long as it's not government work
You're going to need to explain this one to me.
Governments are nothing but groups of people, corporations that are strong enough to claim ownership over other people and land.

>this fucking retard
he doesn't argument the things he criticize
he just says that everyone one is wrong or crazy and that's it

>Aoi Yuuki talking shit about filthy commies for 2 hours
nice

>Governments are nothing but groups of people,
Absolutely false
To communists governments are gods and must be worshiped
Lick the boot little commie, we'll give you "equality of outcomes", just keep licking the shit off my jackboot

Iraq isn't claimed by contractors , you watch too much fiction.
why do you think the guerilla is still going on to this day ?
terrorists can build houses and dig tunnels and nobody will do anything about it , same for Syria and Afghanistan , add Yemen to it too.
and nigger countries are even more free (except they don't like whitey but that's your problem).

just excuses and more excuses to not do anything and whine about society on the internet.
death makes us free too.

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because unlike with private corporations you're forced to give you money to the government

That's quite the conclussions to jump at user,
you're clearly retarded.

And we didn't even strike, just the threat of 20% percent of their employees shutting the place down was enough to get concessions.

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Jreg is not a serious political channel, user

RIP to the LNs. Carlo Zen is going to announce its cancellation soon.

>just the threat of 20% percent of their employees shutting the place down was enough to get concessions.
Got it
You're a walmart greeter, or at least at that tier of skill and employment
No need to explain, I understand
People that aren't just replaceable cogs in the machine don't need unions

no , they choosed to be and act like subhumans , so they were rightfully treated as such and guess what , commies were also in Afghanistan and started the whole mess.

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Poor Ugar.
In the book he's trying to give her nonverbal cues that she needs to stop talking, but instead she just digs herself deeper talking about how awesome she is.

yes there is
you're hiring someone based on something that's not their capacity/requirements for the job, hurting the health or productivity of the company by denying the job to a possible better or more qualified person

>death makes us free too
I see you are a Posadist

Wait, was there a USSR/ Russia Russian revolution equivalent in the novels?

Fuck fence-shitters

Humanity's morality and law around land is broken.
Government land should count as free land and ownership of it should come from first claim and first use. This means you can squat, develop and own any piece of land that has no owner, but you can't claim ownership over an area just because you put a fence up.

Mostly to help tell the difference between fractions during the action scenes.
Skis were pretty cool. I like how Mary is trash on a broom, but a natural on skis.
Subtle reminder of her heritage.

only if you completely disregard trust as a heavy factor in selecting personnel

Do you want favelas? Because that's how you get favelas.

Yes. Visha's family are Russian aristocratic expats.

>see movie in Japan
>silence through its entirety

>see movie in the states
>lots of laughing and some cheers
I guess it could have been worse.

>This means you can squat, develop and own any piece of land that has no owner, but you can't claim ownership over an area just because you put a fence up.
Putting up a fence and defending that fence and everything in it counts as ownership. And once all the government land is taken, we're right back where we started where there's nothing left to homestead and no woods to live off the land in without intruding on someone's property.

people would just fence everything they can and claim it's a natural reserve

They wouldn't be shitholes if they had property rights. Without it they can't sell their land and developers can't buy it.

Total Bruh moment

>there's only two options

They had property rights. They claimed the hole in the wall that wasn't claimed by the surrounding holes in the walls.

Commies don't exist right now, only socialists since any commie nation is immediately bombed to death because they are feared by capitalists.
Pigs are so money hungry they need to wage wars to take all the resources then give their soldiers and slaves chump change.

Simple solution
youtube.com/watch?v=WbiCeoyQjtg

>should start with themselves
So the unhinged reproduction of subhumans who haven't yet or are incapable of coming to this conclusion can continue to drive the planet into chaos? If it weren't for white altruism, the world would be an entire Africa lighter in human lives. It wouldn't be wise to kill off the doctors of the world anyways.

Reminder that being a wage-slave who supports capitalism is the same as being a willing cuckold.

>there will always be something in demand because human desires have no ceiling
Nice pipe dreaming there. Yeah, do that, the market will saturate anyway once people mimic your success.
>if it was a zero sum you wouldn't waste your time in the job you absolute retard.
You don't have a choice, you idiot, it's either work for a wage that barely sustains you or die of starvation
>but you were born poor, ignorant and naked
Not everyone is born poor, you fucking asshole pseudo, stop living in your own imagination, come back to reality, we don't live on trees anymore, we live in capitalism
>the natural state of man is absolute misery
Stop using vague terms like "misery" to describe the human condition, get concrete for once in your miserable life.

There's only one, capitalism or get bombed to death.

they're not even comparable
communism is a political and economic system checkbox where if everything isn't marked then 'it's not real communism'.
capitalism just means economic freedom. it's a scale, the more freedom you have, the more capitalist your economy is. a monarchy can be highly capitalist

When did Yea Forums get so left-leaning? Are you all from Reddit?

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>If it weren't for white altruism, the world would be an entire Africa lighter in human lives.
Funny you should say that, because African workers are the sole reason you even exist right now. Kill the entire African population right now and the world economy will implode. You are mooching off centuries of African labor, flinging shit on the internet.

Did the empire attack not-Poland?

Is it support or is it the ability to see that communism would leave them far worse off?

More like not-Poland never existed in the first place due to the not-HRE never falling.

t. cuckold

Spoken like a know-nothing that learned their economics from water cooler talk

Based

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I'm really interested as to how communists are still a thing considering that they never regained the plot after some basic arguments were presented to them
- what about the basic motivation for people to do their best towards something
>oh you know you just paint pretty enough picture and aim it far enough into the future and it's all good.
- okay, what about all the times communism was attempted and all the death parades that follow shortly after establishing the regime?
>are you SERIOUSLY so intellectually insufficient that you would discredit a whole concept because it didn't work once or twice?
one of the recent favorites: watched prominent communist thinker, wolf something, and with the question being
- what about all the risk the entrepreneur takes upon themselves, don't they deserve more for the risk they take upon
he went all
>yeah, but what about the risk employee takes on with relocation and home purchase, it's the same kind of risk!
and just to be clear, it's clearly isn't: usually you have to take loans and have responsibility for the livelyhood of your employees. If you "fail at business" you don't just move on to another business: financial burden can be with you for years, if not for the rest of your life, not to mention all the time you've spent developing the business and not working a proper job. Shit sucks for the employees, especially as far as housing is concerned and it's not a given to have your own place anymore but it's nowhere near the burden of an employer. And this is one of the core issues by the way and it gets dismissed in a manner that I find either dishonest or simply not thought through.

When was Yea Forums political? Are you from 2015? Fucking americans

It’s not that they support it but TINA(There are no alternatives). Their is no major leftists world power nor will the US or the European Union/NATO let a similar situation happen again.

Seems to be far more capitalists than communists in here, but really, did you think neetbucks was just a meme?

>the market will saturate anyway once people mimic your success
and then something else will increase in demand. that's how economy works

>You don't have a choice, you idiot, it's either work for a wage that barely sustains you or die of starvation
>"You don't have a choice, but you must choose between A and B"
note that you don't even consider the myriad of different things you could be doing instead of keeping your shitty job

>Not everyone is born poor
yes we are. the wealth of your parents is not your own. stop taking things for granted and be grateful for once in your life

>Stop using vague terms like "misery"
what's vague about that word, faggot? it means having nothing. aren't you just picking on anything you can to bitch about

Entrepeneurs are a meme dude. Entrepreneurs come from families with money, they take litlle to no risk for their livelihoods.

>and then something else will increase in demand
Or the market collapses and you suffer a recession. That's how the economy works.

>Entrepreneurs come from families with money, they take litlle to no risk for their livelihoods.
except when they they're poor and they do

What the fuck are you talking about?

I wonder how many of you realize the author is left wing and that Youjo Senki is parody.

>"You don't have a choice, but you must choose between A and B"
If B is death by starvation, then it isn't a fucking choice, you imbecilic mongrel.
>yes we are. the wealth of your parents is not your own. stop taking things for granted and be grateful for once in your life
The rich sure act like it is.

communists are starving their own people in Venezuela , Cuba is also a notable example , North Korea too.
China is opressing it's own populace and will deploy a GBP (Good Boy Point) system in 2020 to turn people even more into robots.

on a more local example , Kurds are communist and are now starting to act like Jihadis (despite the full burger support they received) , i can also add to this the fact that they did a little ethnic cleansing back when they took the land they actually occupy.
but no no no , you're right and i can only be wrong , communism doesn't exist and has never been tried before...

no , i don't believe in an ideal political system or an utopia , whatever you do you will always act against someone's interest , that how humans are.
i prefer imperialism but without the colonial bullshit , i would be interested to see how such a system would fare but knowing humans , it's probably doomed to fail.
at least capitalism works for now in a normal republic (although republics tend to be very weak in the long term).
i bet in the future it won't be communism or capitalism but a mix of both and more.
there's no perfect system , only a balanced one.

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I love the OL look of Punished Mary.

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>That's how the keynesian economy works
FTFY
stop printing money already

shoo shoo dusty old donkey

>we're shittalking capitalism
aka working civilization

Fuck (((freedom))) and fuck welfare state. What we need is the real Freedom.

>i prefer imperialism but without the colonial bullshit
So you're retarded, got it.

Yep. I long for a country that will give me free healthcare, free education, free food, and free housing. Freedom from want is the only freedom there is.

>a parody
Actually read the novels. No matter his political stance, calling a parody is flat out wrong. If anything, he's a military otaku just having fun, but he's vastly more viscous depicting communists than the Tanya's capitalistic ideals. More than ideological, he's more interested in historical realism.

>the majority of minimum wage workers in the US are full grown adults
if you define full grown adults as 18 years old of course it is you retard

imperialism in foreign affairs if you will , conquering new land and occupying it is an inefficient and outdated concept.
France new European politics looks more and more like this type of imperialism.

GOOD LUCK, LITTLE DUCK!

B is looking for something else. it boggles my mind seeing how you insist on ignoring the infinite possibilities you could hold on if only you had the balls to take responsibility for your own life rather than thinking your well being is a god given right the someone else should be accountable for
>The rich sure act like it is.
and that's what we call being spoiled.

>It doesn't belong to everyone in a capitalistic state
lmao imagine thinking this when your poor ass already got an education to write more than 2 sentences

And most of them will fail and will be unable to recover. The ones that succeed are a very minor statistical anomaly that will be pushed in the form of perseverance propaganda.

>it's not Erika
Dropped

Neocolonialism is already a concept and has been used since the decolonization of the old empires. You don't hold the territory but you control the resources, the economy and the people's minds through media.

That's dictatorship dumbfuck, and guess what again? they are all being attacked by capitalist economic warfare.
Venezuela companies were paid by the US to stop producing food which is why the gov had to take over the agriculture.

>Communism has the opposite problem. There is no structural incentive to control utilization. If access is not restricted (in capitalism this is cost) then there is no structural incentive for an efficient utilization of any resource.

Not a communist, but this was brought up very very early in the thread. Again, communism and capitalism both have significant disadvantages. It is important to understand what each system actually does, and to not expect it to do anything that it doesn't.

post-scarcity is impossible though, people will always collectively want more than there are resources available to provide.

>- what about the basic motivation for people to do their best towards something
You mean the main driving force of communism?
>okay, what about all the times communism was attempted and all the death parades that follow shortly after establishing the regime?
Your whataboutism begs the question: what kind of regime was it beyond declarations? Your kind seems to get stuck on "whose name did it kill people", but forget to ask the basic question: how did the regime actually operate
>financial burden can be with you for years, if not for the rest of your life, not to mention all the time you've spent developing the business and not working a proper job
Nice meme retort for a meme thinker (that you can't name or cite properly). I'll humor you though, this whole meme doesn't address the system as a whole.

luxuries aren't neccessarily included

We're in post-scarcity right now, though. China is providing free food for all its citizens, and is 3D printing all kinds of luxury goods. Face it, capitalism is dead.

Name a luxury good you can create with a 3D printer

Onaholes

>Venezuela companies were paid by the US to stop producing food which is why the gov had to take over the agriculture
not him but supposing that's true, which I highly doubt, how's that different from buying all of their food? companies would only accept such a deal if they thought it's more profitable than selling everything they can produce. unless the govt forbids you from buying foreign food how's that a bad thing? then again iven if it does forbid it, the govt itself would be the villain for doing it

china isn't a post-scarcity economy

>turn into a girl
>doesn't masturbate
What kind of bullshit is that?

there's a whole lot of grey area in luxury

Nazpols RISE UP
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They stop producing food itself, no farming no herding and then they cry about the mean gov which is suppressing them.
It's traitors being backed by a capitalist nation waging war.

Unclear if that is the case, certainly post-scarcity is impossible with the resources that we currently have. However, it is certainly possible to have examples of goods that could be considered "post-scarcity"

For instance, I have never gone to a supermarket and considered the price of bananas. I just buy the amount of bananas I want. If I had an infinite amount of money, I would buy the same number of bananas. That's certainly a form of "post-scarcity" and an example of a finite desire.
For our purposes we can consider a society that is post-scarcity one where people do not consider basic needs, and that food, water, shelter, electricity, etc. are treated like I treat bananas.

>companies would only accept such a deal if they thought it's more profitable than selling everything they can produce
Exactly, which is why they would be fine not producing food if they got more money that way and didn't need to sink any capital into producing anything. You're not in business to make goods, but make profit. Burgers were literally giving free profit.

user you've answered none of my questions

KILL ALL FRENCHIES
KILL ALL RUSKIES
KILL ALL BRITBONGS
and of course
KILL ALL BURGERS

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Based and wisepilled.
I agree. Thinking that capitalism is the only alternative to communism is truly a brainlet's way of thinking.

>companies would only accept such a deal if they thought it's more profitable than selling everything they can produce
Which is exactly the problem, why put in the work of growing food if you get paid more for not doing it? And then you get paid a little bit more for appearing on BBC crying that the meanies from the government took over your company.

The profit principle is an excellent tool for anyone trying to subvert a socialist project

Imagine the smell

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It has to do with ego and morals.

Hayek wasn't kidding, you people are insane.

>thinking that socialism imposed by fascism in an autarky is better than comunism
lol

fascism isn't about economics though
name a serious economic alternative to communism or captialism

It's amazing how much of a dumb retard you are user.

>being this ignorant

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>Communism
>Mao Zedong fucks you in the ass
>Capitalism
>Standard Oil / AT&T fucks you in the ass
>Facism
>Hitler fucks you in the ass
There is no winning move

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that's not what fascism is

Eco socialism.
Fascism needs capitalism, try again.

Except that's exactly what fascism is.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism
Fascism believes that the economy should be governed "organically", with the government acting as a brain and all the various industries acting as organs in the body. It's what China is doing right now.

And capitalism needs mercantilism, therefore is mercantilism. Right?

>If I just convert all of my corporate monopolies into a centralized government monopoly, all of my problems will be solved!

i don't think we control the people's mind through media anymore though , especially since Algeria's war in France.

>Having an opinion
You belong to the gulag

>this thread is allowed to reach bumplimit and be archived
Mods are dead

Fascism is defined by violent ultra-nationalism, the economic policy they use is irrelevant. China isn't fascist

but I'm not understanding it on a practical level
lying to the media is one thing, but accepting being paid to do nothing is a no brainer and there's nothing wrong with that
what I fail to understand is why do these people not use the massive lump of money they supposedly got to immediately invest in a different market when any businessman would do that. and why can't people just import food?

Marx wrote an entire book about how wrong you are
Counterpoint, that's exactly what fascism is.
Wow look, a reference. user, I don't think you understand how this works, you're supposed to just make broad statements and then say "No U" when someone replies.

>and then something else will increase in demand. that's how economy works
No, that's not how it works actually. Not every product produced equals a product sold. Just because you made it doesn't mean you'll find someone who will buy it.
>note that you don't even consider the myriad of different things you could be doing instead of keeping your shitty job
List five
>yes we are.
Yes, we get it. You are an individualist and we admire you for that. We're still not done with institutions like family, private property and inheritance, though. And the sad truth is, most capitalists pass their wealth down to their children, using force, coercion and metaphorical brainwashing if they have to, which results in children being born with wealth. This is how this system works, you have to accept it, not play pretend naturalism.
>it means having nothing
Thank you for being concrete, see above.

>Eco socialism
communism except even gayer

I have a framed picture of John Stuart Mill and a NATO flag. Anyone in this thread may direct your hate at me like a lightning rod if you feel the need to.

Or alternatively ask about about the imperfect but prosperous future that lies in store for us all if we adhere to some key principles of individual liberty, property and commercial rights, and jurisprudence.

Tanya doesn't want any of those things. She longs peace more than anything. The only ones she truly hates are the Commies.

I want to FUCK Tanya

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what book was that?

The German Ideology

nice argument user , i hope you can back it up.

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this but unironically

this, user talking about what actually matters

Nope.
Slave-owning societies were also civilized
Feudal societies were civilized
Some tribes deep in the Amazon are civilized, albeit in a very primitive way

Capitalism is not civilization, it is a specific mode of economic production within the history of human civilization.

Now stop being a baka.

And what does that have to do with fascism, being written about a country that wasn't fascist?

>Being written about a country that wasn't fascist
Try reading it retard, it's not "about Germany"

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Because they are betraying their state by causing famine.
Some of those people are US agents put there to make the place worse also.
No import because of economic blockades and and price manipulation.
>US: trade with Venezuela and you are our enemy

I'm not going to read a whole book to argue with someone pretending fascism isn't fascism (and apparently the german ideology isn't about germany)
the picture you posted is the same as a "capitalist" society

>zipper
What the fuck.

>Fascism is defined by being an evil meanie!
Cyborg Xi Jinping is going to throw you in the recycling vats, commie.

What the fuck did you just call my wife?

Yuuki Aoi isn't a child, she's just as tall as one.

>the picture you posted is the same as a "capitalist" society

It's almost like it's a theory relating the economic structure of a society with the society itself. It's almost like fascism is an inherently economic policy because it seeks to regulate production, and those two things are inseparable, hmmmm.

You should try reading by the way, you might like it.

cant do. gotta leech from the wage cuck slaves. heh, dumb slaves. why wont they quit their jobs and be a NEET like me? and just leech wage cucks? so dumb

Is it bad to want to duck a fuck?

See ya all soon for a YS thread that talks about YS in a bit when all the retards leave after this one dies.

Capitalism is the competitive accumulation of capital. Capital is use value that is used to create new value.

Fascism merges the industrial sector with the capitalist state (which is a necessary, yet separate, entity in capitalism), creating a structure that exploits workers in order to aggressively accumulate capital, competing against other capitalist structures. It is a facet of capitalism.

>You mean the main driving force of communism?
Yeah, for a couple of years, people become lethargic without tangible results for long periods of time that establishing "proper" communism requires
>how did the regime actually operate
Basically: we have a plan and it will totally work out just as we've planned and there will be a paradise on earth so you've got to starve to death, sorry.
>(that you can't name or cite properly).
Oh, i'm sorry that I don't remember the name of garbage and what that garbage uttered
>this whole meme doesn't address the system as a whole.
and you don't address the building blocks of the system and communism is about first and foremost fucking over those building blocks. Capitalism has tons of problems but the answer isn't communism
I know several and my mom was a very bad failed one. You can become one in a week. Yes, most fail but lots become barely profitable small things that simply sustain their owner and there is nothing wrong with that. There are most likely a lot of things wrong with huge corporations but that is another issue that isn't solved by communism

>. It's almost like fascism is an inherently economic policy
It isn't, at all, fascism has nothing to do with economics, they just used the economic policy that worked the best
like your Chinese example, China isn't fascist, it's a failed Communist state (which IS an economic policy) that just gave up and started doing what worked

The most hilarious thing is that the YS author himself is a commie, HAHAHAHAHAHA
He makes series depicting the bad and ego filled side of fascism and capitalism and people eat it up.

>>Fascism is defined by being an evil meanie!
pretty much, yeah

I am a marxist, not a communist. Thank you.

Basically the same story with Iron Man. You intentionally make a bad unlikable character but people can't stop eating it up regardless.

>Not every product produced equals a product sold
which is why you shouldn't produce something that is not in demand. and keep in mind what you can do is not limited to creating products, but also providing services. in fact, a job is a service where the boss is your client
>List five
with or without a government regulating your ass out of the market? in your imagined dystopia the huge amount of people in poverty would create a demand for cheaper housing in the suburbs and then security. someone would need to bring the goods for sale all the way there. then comes all sorts of small jobs for services that you can't find around the area.
if you're talking about RL I don't know where you live so I won't make shit up
>inheritance
people can give their things to whoever they want and there's absolutely nothing sad or wrong with that. still, the children don't get to decide how the money is spent until it's given to them, and until then it's not theirs by definition whether you like it or not
BUT. suppose I think from that perspective. that some people are born wealthy. Good for them, there's still absolutely nothing wrong with that. you are not entitled to an equal starting line either

So you're a fuckwit instead of a retard, then.

>YS author himself is a commie
Source?

>makes art depicting various views of several ideologies
>artist and art are literally the same thing
>and also it specifically makes him a commie out of all the ideologies he depicts
Please get help.

except he's not , you're being played and he probably doesn't give a fuck about commies and facists.
he's just a fellow autist playing map painting simulator 12 hours a day.

But killing them makes peace easier.

>It isn't, at all, fascism has nothing to do with economics
TIL the organization of production isn't economics, do tell me more.
>like your Chinese example
Not me, but ok.
>A strong central government with absolute control over economic production and social order that is forming a unified, nationalist, ethnocentric autocracy is not fascist
Develop your point.
>A-actually it's communism
And North Korea a is Democratic People's Republic, sure

She doesn't even why she hates them, she's as brainwashed as all the capitalists in this thread.

This. Commies having a flimsy ideology that can't stand to criticism and well, real world practice, makes them prone to warmongering attitudes.

>she already stated many times before why facism and communism doesn't work , she even talked about genocides of both sides.

maybe commies don't know how to read ?
maybe commies are brainwashed as well ?

Can you tell me who it was who lost the war?

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>Because they are betraying their state
as a personal opinion, fuck the state
>by causing famine.
no one should be forced to produce anything if they don't want to, no?
>Some of those people are US agents put there to make the place worse also.
details?
>No import because of economic blockades and and price manipulation.
>>US: trade with Venezuela and you are our enemy
I doubt china, russia or any other commies would care about that
from what I heard it's maduro who's not allowing foreign aid also. something about colombia (?) and brazil being denied
how does that work?

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The heroic underdog.

nazis and commies , 'Murica won on all sides.

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There's no comfortable life to be had under communism.

imagine her lips around your dick

Muricunt got btfo by jungle rice farmer.
The winners are the jews

Some assblasted faggot just keeps repeating this claim because Carlo likes to ironically use "comrade" on Twitter.

>not allowing foreign aid
Comes with strings attached and is often used as a cover for covert actions.

jews got btfo by Iran in their wars too , yet Iran isn't winning.
it's the amerimutts the true winner of the race.
richer , more powerful and more influent.

>the homeland suffered terrible losses

>m-muh brainwashing
Gomminism is a babby tier "alternative" ideology to free market capitalism. It's sufficiently well known (and unfortunately practiced by a bunch of idiots at many points in recent history) as to know exactly why it's complete shit. Tanya despises it because it's bollocks and almost the total opposite of what she loves. It's extremely inefficient, comparatively more wasteful than capitalism (even in terms of humam lives) and it undermines individual freedom and meritocracies. Why wouldn't she or anyone with a working brain hate it?

>tfw can't beat the oldmen
Sucks to be a cute little girl

>Yeah, for a couple of years
Stop being arbitrary
>people become lethargic without tangible results for long periods of time that establishing "proper" communism requires
Tangible results don't have to do with profit.
>Basically: we have a plan and it will totally work out just as we've planned and there will be a paradise on earth so you've got to starve to death, sorry.
Again, stop being vague and arbitrary. Be specific.
>Oh, i'm sorry that I don't remember the name of garbage and what that garbage uttered
You're the one to talk
>and you don't address the building blocks of the system
Read Capital volumes 1, 2 and 3, then come back
>Yes, most fail but lots become barely profitable small things that simply sustain their owner and there is nothing wrong with that.
That's not the point, the point is that the ones who are successful never stay at "barely profitable" level, how do you think multinationals were created, out of thin air?
> There are most likely a lot of things wrong with huge corporations but that is another issue that isn't solved by communism
The things wrong with huge corporations are only solved with communism, by seizing them and imposing democratic control over them for the benefit of society.

The strawman with you is insane.

Nonsense. Being a cute little girl is the best.

Capitalism kills,through neglect, orders of magnituda more than communism.

But comrade Loria is /our/ guy!

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>no one should be forced to produce anything if they don't want to, no?
No but then don't come crying when others take your role like the gov had to do.
>details?
Cia, sanctions.
>from what I heard it's maduro who's not allowing foreign aid also. something about colombia (?) and brazil being denied
how does that work?
Colombia is with the US and more than just food/medicine is being brought it for ''help''.
US and Colombia has military exercises near Venezuela borders now.
Brazil is an opportunist waiting for Venezuela to weaken.

>which is why you shouldn't produce something that is not in demand
What if you produce something in demand and because too many people produce it demand drops simply out of sheer volume of items produced, compared to consumers? What then, smartass?
What if the service you provide can be provided be a million other people? How do you survive?
>List five
You didn't answer.
>people can give their things to whoever they want and there's absolutely nothing sad or wrong with that.
The problem of people suddenly getting wealth without working for it remains
>Good for them, there's still absolutely nothing wrong with that. you are not entitled to an equal starting line either
this contradicts:
>but you were born poor, ignorant and naked, the natural state of man is absolute misery, and that includes having no job.
So, which one is it? Are we all born naked or is there an unequal starting line?

not him but
lel nah , communism kills via famine and general oppression , also kills the soul of everyone when they're not outright killing you via execution.
you're deluded.

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Factually untrue. Compare Mozamique and Botswana.

>n-not real gommunism!

not him but
lel nah , capitalism kills via famine and general oppression , also kills the soul of everyone when they're not outright killing you via starvation+depression (also execution, when you go against them).
you're deluded.

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It isn't communism, though. It is state-driven capitalism.

No it doesn't. Commies are retards so I don't expect you to remember Lysenkoism and why it was able to prosper precisely on commie shitholes, but the in case yout argument is something as retarded as claiming muh polution somehow wouldn't be an issue in communistic industries, I just have to remind you that Calitalism also favors the means to establish "clean" and "green" energy industries.

Majority of food insecurity in the world today is caused by unstable political institutions that allow for mafias or warlords to form, or corrupt officials to use regulatory capture, and prevent farmers from developing infrastructure for farming beyond subsistence level. Hunger can plausibly be eliminated in the next fifty years through improving efficacy of otherwise dysfunctional governments, and especially reducing corruption.

Tanya x Loriya doujins when?

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Why is Yea Forums so communist?

Just say capitalism, they throw food out instead of giving it to the needy.
Crops are destroyed because they don't want to give it up for cheap.

Fuck that guy.
Tanya is for protecting.

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Those commie Chinese Nurutu animes are messing with our brains.

Mozambique isn't communist anymore retard.
Vague shitposting but ok.
>Lysenkoism
Now you're reaching, nobody will deny that fuckup, but it was also the last famine in the USSR.
>Clean energy
Is a scam, it adds to the grid, it doesn't replace "dirty energy". Case in point, All the clean energy in the world doesn't match the energy required to mine bitcoins cleanly.

False flaggers and trolls.

But that's not true. Capitalism is an incredibly broad term and can include things like modern India, which has almost none of that compared to License Raj, which was an attempt at a socialization of the economy that suffered from regulatory capture and corruption.

There's one that's close where she admits that salaryman was a pedo and lets herself get fucked by a pedo that doesn't look too much unlike Beria while watching herself in mirrors.

>everything is made out of cotton!
Nice try, nigger.

Literally doesn't change anything. Even during Sankara's rule, Botswana's model of prudent government, inclusive political and economic institutions, and protection of key property and commercial rights, was far more effective than Mozambique's attempt at socialization of the economy.

>wow , he posted a picture of abandonned buildings next to modern ones , welp , i guess that's it , i'll be living in a mudhut now and throw out all my modern equipement because modernity is a sin !

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The only reason a bunch of poorfag thirdworlder brainlets even get to eat is precisely because of capitalism. Without it and capitalist pigs figuring out technologies to sell them cheap food they would starve to death thanks tp their local governments incompetence and retarded meme ideologies like communism.

read the thread faggot, there's already been posted information about how many people have died because of communism in the last century and it's way more than in both WW

I'm going to protect her from her virginity.

No. Lysenko was able to inflict as much damage as he did because as usual, gommies disregarded practice in favor of pretty sounding mumbo jumbo. It's almost entirely up to communist ideologues.

>missing the point this hard on clean energy
The point is that like it has always done, capitalist entrepreneurship will figure the means to obtain new energy sources. That's guaranteed to not happen under any kind of government central planning regime.