Seriously, why doesn't this get shit for being a blatant asspull? I reckon this was even worse than O MY desu lads

Seriously, why doesn't this get shit for being a blatant asspull? I reckon this was even worse than O MY desu lads.

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Seethe, tranny.

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If people would agonize over every single asspull in the series they would go insane

>An asspull is when someone invents data or facts to support their argument
What Gon did was mentioned 2 ARCS BEFORE it happened & is w/in the nen rules.
If you skipped the "boring episodes" to get to the fight scenes, then you would've missed it.
If you still think it's an asspull, then post actual arguments why.

It did back in the day when the arc was still ongoing in the manga.

Cause it was interesting to see a Main Character get cucked out of his own series

Gon-san is not an asspull. Neither is O My Nen. Nanika is THE biggest asspull in the series, rivaling "dude Yusuke, your ancestors are demons lmao"

That shit was LITERALLY explained multiple times in the anime before that: the rules, the reasons etc. Even O my rubber nen was explained
Do you guys even watch it or just fiddle with your phone browsing 4chin while the anime in on?

O MY POTENTIAL!!

>it happened & is w/in the nen rules
Of course, the problem is that Gon never even experimented with limitations yet he was capable of instantly doing it. Don't you see the asspull? Imagine Kurapika randomly discovering that he's a specialist during his fight with Uvo and creating that healing ability on the spot, that would've been a major asspull.

HOLY BASED

He literally says outright he doesn't care anymore before he btfo pitou

If it's that easy why didn't Netero say it? He could've instantly BTFOd the king without a nuke. Also don't you see how this cheapens Nen as a system?

Maybe because it ment to be an passional overboard throw and not some muh ingenuity gimmick.

Netero isn't an enhancer tho.

See, but gon being the only one to go super sayain is an ass pull. Literally every character who has died in hxh without using all of their ‘potential’ for a one off power boost to kamakazi their opponent just sits wrong with me. It’s in the established rules. They’re going to die anyways. Why not go out with a bang and kill the person who is going to murder them anyways?

Nen contracts were established in the York New City arc and gon ended up losing his nen and stopped being the main character despite his life being saved by O my wish granting brothersister

No bec since nen was introduced in Heaven's Arena, they've said it's the expression of willpower, personality & state of mind of the individual. Gon had the resolve to sacrifice all his Nen at that moment. Rewatch ep 131 if you still don't get it.

Gon sacrificed his potential while Netero was past his peak. What potential could Netero give in exchange for that power? None.
And how does it cheapen the system if Gon paid the price? He still has no nen.

Asspulls don't get shit if the scene is good

It was established early in the series that you can increase an abilities power by putting costs and restrictions on it. So in my opinion, gaining 10 minutes of extreme power in exchange for losing the ability to use magic forever and dying a slow, agonizing death afterwards seems like a fair and reasonable trade off.

What is an unforgivable asspull however is the O MY WISH GRANTING TRANNY-SISTER right afterwards that saves his life right after. It also raises the question of why nobody else ever does things like this, since if you're in a situation where you're definitely going to die it would always be worth it to just give up your nen forever rather than die.

It was worse than an asspull, it was meme level gay. Just look at your picrelated, looks like a god damn sadcat or the crying loli image.
If his mother got ripped to pieces or some other really unjust thing happened like a child dying, one could understand. But some gay fucker who died fighting honorably and was rightfully defeated by a stronger oponent is barely a reason to go apeshit and act like a depressed pussy who's entire world is collapsing. It only goes to show how fucking gay and mentally sick Gon really was and it's quite possible him and Kite were lovers, judging from his desperation over his death.
Further elements of faggotry here are the fact the fag Kite gets reborn as a little girl, the ultimate homo dream and then has a new little relationship with the fag Gon. If that doesn't prove him and Kite had a pedophile lover relationship then I don't know what does.

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based exposer of pedo x pedo

hunterwhisperers obliterated

Because it was stated, or at least implied to be possible throughout the entire arc if not entire series after the concept of Nen was introduced. And then there's how obviously using your entire potential in one go had huge consequences, you saw how Gon pretty much turned into an undead mummy afterwards.
Now, if you want to complain about an actual asspull, there's Alluka and how her magic doesn't work all the way on Killua, which is exactly what allowed Gon to be revived.

Hisoka pretty much did it with on my rubber nen

Possibly because it requires strong resolve, something that people about to die most likely don't have much since they're desperate. Isn't that kind of "resolve" also what allowed Kurapika to be completely broken? In Gon's case there's also what has already been mentioned about potential, he only turned into Gon-san because of how much he still could grow while basically anyone else wouldn't get much mileage out of that kind of sacrifice.

it's not an asspull though
only asspull was nanika

Adult Gon with proper training would have beat Chrollo

That's not even a question. To he fair Hisoka would have too if he didn't chose such a disadvantageous combat field.

Did anyone ever figure out where on the shounen power level scale Gon-san sits?

Exactly, the asspull is not Gon doing the power-up, is Gon being healed afterward by literal magic

>Possibly because it requires strong resolve
Not him but you're wrong. What Gon had was a strong case of depression and desperation, almost all people in that state have strong resolves in a chosen direction user. What the other guy said was right, that aspect of it was bullshit because everyone really would make the ultimate power contract in a state of absolute desperation.

Not everyone has as much potential as gon, its said multiple times by many characters that he is the person with most nen potential they ever saw.
And he sacrificed all his potential for it.

It was called an asspull. Just back when it happened there were not so many obsessive retards on Yea Forums.

i love these things

Why didn't Netero put a condition on himself to beat Meruem?

Nothing is as bad as Kite's revival or Alluka's existence.

This is only an asspull if you weren't paying attention

It looks so dumb too, it was supposed to be a serious moment and I was just laughing at the screen it was so retarded, how can anyone say this series is anything more than above average shonen?

only asspull in hxh is alluka, and it doesn't really matter.

>how can anyone say this series is anything more than above average shonen
Because it has good character writing, a trait that's missing from most shounen

Already answered here

That's what makes it above average yes, but it's not deserving of being ranked even close to LotGH, Lain or Eva. Meanwhile on MAL it's above all of them.

FPBP. Absolutely rekt OP

True, it will only be an asspull if Gon gets his nen back, which he undoubtedly will.

That wasn't particularly bad, it just became bad because there was a magic wish granting sibling involved in fixing most of the negative effects.

>caring what MAL thinks

It's so funny because the Zoldyck family arc could've been used to fix the Alluka problem, turning an asspull into incredible foresight in storytelling. But no instead it's just a useless arc to be at the bottom of everyones list.

The best part of the asspull is that he somehow gave up his potential and his childhood, only to magically revert and de-age back to a fucking child at the end.

ging already confirmed he still had nen

>why doesn't this get shit for being a blatant asspull?
Because it's not an asspull, speedreader-kun.

Yep, just had to train. So losing his didnt meant he lost it entirely just that he lost all his progress and must start again from square one.

Which really puts into question why no one else has gone gon-san when their life was in jeopardy. Like I know the answer is they arent as special as our shonen mc or as emotional but it still feels like a cop out

well, people could do what gon did if they had a shit ton of potential. and then they would die, like gon would have if not for alluka.

fpbp

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To be fair nothing can be an asspull in hxh. Hisoka's nen literally waits for the perfect moment to revive him, because if it was too early and did it as soon as he "died" he'd have just kept getting his shit kicked and too late and his body would have been fucked by lack of oxygen damage, and dont forget literal fucking wishing

I never thought of that, I used to always rip on the power up cause it looked like a super saiyen and the fans insisted it was totally different because he actually aged. So did he just go back in time or some shit after it was done?

>we knew about Alluka's existence since the 1st arc & she was shown directly in Chimera Ant arc
>we knew that the HxH world was way bigger than we were told since the FIRST fucking page that literally says "unexplored lands"
>we knew that there were strange creatures since the Hunter Exam (the shapeshifting things that took Gon & his friends to the exam location, that big ass turtle with strawberries, that giant frog etc)
>we knew that there were stronger powers that went way beyond nen ever since Melody told us about the Sonata of Darkness.
>Killua didn't use Nanika before because of Illumi's needle & also how dangerous it would be to reveal to the world of Nanika's existence. He used Nanika only because of the extreme situation that Gon was in.
>Silva literally says "that thing comes from somewhere else, its not of this world"
>Nanika is a confirmed AI (one of the 5 calamities from the Dark Continent)
>Zigg Zoldyck was in the Dark Continent & he brought to the human world an AI
>AIs are based on "co-dependance of desire"

Consider actually reading the series before shitposting.

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So once again, the only way it's not an asspull is if Gon dies, which is impossible as he and every other main character has unbreakable plot armour.

no, thats not how it works. alluka is the asspull since togashi wrote himself into a corner with gon-san.

That doesn't answer the question. Kurapika was able to put a condition on himself to beat the Spiders without using his potential.

>O MY NATURAL CALAMITY THAT CAN WISH ANYTHING
It's an asspull.

But Gon sacrificed his nen, not his life.
So they were able to heal his body bec it was not part of the nen contract.

Gon-san is a total asspull. I understand the mechanics behind it but there was no way he actually had enough training and mental pain in that moment to trigger it. He'd have to be the most stereotypical shonen "this child is born special" mc possible and thats shit writing

He literally is, his techniques aren't though

>but there was no way he actually had enough training and mental pain in that moment to trigger it.
literally anyone that can use nen can do it

>without using his potential
Are you anime-only? So the life span he's paying in return is not considered "potential"?

Because it was established by the rules of Nen since Yorknew, and repeatedly by Gon's character since the first episode where we throws himself off the deck of the ship to save someone.

>there are random super powerful people with unspecific powers that will come in when its convenient to the writing
That's called shit writing

>She was shown briefly
Don't give a fuck, it wasn't explained that she could do that.
>Things more powerful than nen were mentioned
So I guess any character now can have whatever hidden powers they want (Hi Kite) because of a few throwaway lines? I guess you won't mind if Leorio turns out to have dormant time travelling abilities?

Look, I wouldn't mind this in any other series, but when this so called "intellectual shonen" with the praised to death hard magic system constantly reveals itself to be not all that different to Naruto and such, i'm going to criticize it.

And yet no one else has

No. It's a different term and a different definition with a different negative effect.

people use nen contracts all the time though. like kurapika. most people aren't idiots like gon though and would sacrifice their life even when he didn't need to.

I still don't get O MY RUBBER NEN, why doesn't every hunter have an on death contingency. Doesn't have to be a method to resuscitate, could be as simple as turning into a suicide bomb, or even just marking your killer so your ally could hunt them down.

He sacrifices his childhood, hence the -san

But then he's a child again five seconds later. Because.

Alluka is the asspull. Gon-san isn't

the real asspull isn't gon giving up everything to beat pitou but fucking nanika with her op heal

What's your point? Kurapika's condition doesn't make him strong enough to beat Mereum and only works on limited number of people.

literally everyone would sacrifice their life if their life was going to end anyway. You know how many people have fucking died and could have just said "fuck it I'm taking you with me"?

so people can just suicide to become super powerful. What a shitty power system.

nice assumption, pal.

>sacrifices his childhood
When did he say that exactly?

Because bad writing. Like consider this, nen gets more powerful the more you restrict it. You could make incredibly specific nen abilities for assassination
>this nen
>only at this time
>only on this target
>one shot only
>if I fuck up anything I die
then just find some high level target like the leader of a country or a ceo with a known schedule and you'll have this one shot nuke of death

or speaking more broadly, nothing is stopping you from making incredibly specific nen for individual people or rivials. You could have a host of dozens or hundreds of abilities all for use against one person and it would be stupidly powerful.

It doesn't happen because the writer doesn't want it to. Power through restriction or sacrifice is such a stupid idea.

>Kurapika's condition doesn't make him strong enough to beat Meruem
But it makes him strong enough to beat people who would be significantly stronger than him otherwise. Now apply that to the difference between Netero and Meruem.

Most nen users are losers. Look at pretty much everyone in the video game treasure island arc or the first nen user responders to the chimera ants. Instead of filling themselves with resolve, they panicked or cowered and died. You can only pull off super powerful moves if you are serious about it, and moreover there aren't very many nen users, so getting any of them to sacrifice everything to kill just one person is highly improbable.

So why does Gon do it and no one else does?
the powerup literally ages him. He loses his potential for nen and his life.

considering how strict they are with sharing nen with people and having an entire exams for hunters etc. this actually feels like a plot hole

I never thought about that, Meruem is the obvious threat. He's known and wants to end humanity. Why did no one make a specific, restricted nen to use against him?

Like if his idenity was kept secret that would be anything thing and really interesting but he's not. They all knew who they were facing.

You're retarded, besides the nen contract thing Gon had immense potential and was in a state of crazyness and emotional distress. Not everyone fits those criteria

So Netero is a specialist now?
Kurapika condition is unique to himself bec of the aura spike that happens when his eyes turn scarlet. This was explained in the Uvogin fight. And Netero is an Enhancer like Gon but he couldn't do Gon's condition bec he has no "potential" to give in exchange as he is past his prime.

Once again Hunter x Hunter proves itself a fun but awfully written story. Hence why the walls of text in the manga ruin it as the detail only serves to reveal more holes and contrivances.

>the reason gon was able to do it was because no one else had the potential and craziness and emotional distress as this literal child
and fans say this isn't shonen

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remember how supposedly the masses have no idea nen exists despite fights between nen users being shown in front of thousands of people in a crowd and being broadcast live on television? Or how somehow the deep complex system can't be figured out on it's on?

Like holy shit the idea that the water test itself hasn't somehow leaked out after these hundreds of years is fucking hilarious

>three of the first five arcs have a tournament
it's shonen as fuck

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Don't forget there was a great war with massive amounts of strategic bombing and literally not a single effect of that war has been seen in the world.

>So why does Gon do it and no one else does?
I wish you bothered to read the comments above. This has been answered multiple times.

>the powerup literally ages him
Again, aging his body is a byproduct of the condition but not the condition itself. He had to age so he could handle decades worth of nen gain. Alluka was able to heal his body bec it was not part of the condition. But he lost his nen bec it was what he sacrificed.

HxH is best enjoyed when you forget it's supposed to be "200 IQ best shonen every that's actually seinen" and you just see it as another fun Dragonball type thing for kids.

literally baby's first anime

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Floor master matches in the arena are invitation only and exclusive events as stated in the Heaven's arena arc. It wasn't broadcast on live television but a CCTV, we have a news host from outside to corroborate this, they have no idea what happened despite conjured clones suicide bombing a stadium.

And figuring out nen takes years of training for the average person and the few prodigies out there can manifest their nen ability without recognizing what nen is anyways. Nen is widely regarded as psychic powers by people who are aware but not fully understanding of what it is. And you have to be able to sense and utilize your aura to even do the water test, otherwise everyone getting a drink would be randomly doing shit to their cups.

>Again, aging his body is a byproduct of the condition but not the condition itself.
do tell why his body then de-ages itself

What's the answer? That he was super distressed and crazy? Whereas nobody else who's in peril is.

And he does still have his nen, hence this making no sense.

Just accept reality. It's a fun badly written kids show.

that's the thing I don't hate hxh it's actually enjoyable but all these turbo autists defending it's bad writing are insane. There's a reason they are shitposted so badly
>no you don't understand togashi is this master writer this children's show is actually this epic masterpiece of literature
they are the bronies of Yea Forums

>And he does still have his nen, hence this making no sense.
Gon still has aura because all living things produce aura, but he cannot use nen right now and he's told to not worry about getting his nen back right now because of the conviction he had for his sacrifice.

I feel like you drastically underestimate how much time humans spend trying to figure out how the world works. The east spend ages studying "chakra" and the nature of humanity and the body. The west especially spend literal centuries on alchemy which was a dead end but they did it anyway. The idea that no one would figure out nen is incredibly childish

>write yourself into a corner with ridiculous power levels of enemies
>to save your writing consistency asspull some mc powers at a big cost
>later destroy the consistency anyway by introducing the ability to negate said cost for free
And this is supposed to be best shounen? I'd take power of friendship over this

>they are the bronies of Yea Forums
That's the perfect comparison kek

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Bec Zeno brought Netero & Meruem to a military testing site that was far away from people.

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When is it stated that the type of Nen is directly tied to the type of restriction?

Yeah they are THE worst fans on Yea Forums, and that's saying a lot when Eva fans are over there making me embarrassed to like that show too.

If they just accepted it's a kids show I would gladly agree with them it's one of the best along with FMA:B but when judged as "le serious art only patricians can understand" it falls flat. Especially the manga with its terrible prose and pointless repetitive explaining.

All or nothing isn't ass pull, the things that happen after is an ass pull

>half a million deaths is considered as "no effect of the war"

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remember when they hyped up the hisoka fight and how it was going to "save the industry"? Literally faggots spammed for days and wouldn't shut the fuck only for OH MY to happen. The backlash was hilarious

Except the MC has been literally powerless since, but sure, negated.

Yes, but he will get it back, and when it happens you will defend it.

>tell don't show
I'm talking about world building faggot. Show places like vietnam with people missing limbs. Or a lack of older males. Or destroyed ruins. Or literally fucking anything.
>there was this war
>and this very specific number of people died
also fucking kek at half a million. We bombed the japanese with firebombs for three fucking years and burned a million people alive, get that weak shit out of here

and after the eagles came to save frodo the story ended yes. What happens after the asspull and consequences of it doesn't stop it from being an asspull.

>super distressed and crazy
Yes. Literally here What he did was dumb & stupid but his craziness was always there. We saw it in the Genthru fight for ex.

was there ever a reason for him being crazy or was it just like his "potential" where he was just born special like a typical shonen mc?

Once again Togashi forgets that showing has just a slight bit more impact that a paragraph in a whole page of paragraphs.

Imagine if the recent page in Berserk of Guts walking away was just a bubble explaining "Guts is now very conflicted and sad but has to walk away for Casca's sake so she can be healed this is a very sad moment now cry"

hey guys remember when togashi put japan in the world of hxh but it's okay because he called it jappon

If being crazy is all it takes then ANYONE can do it retroactively breaking every single fight HxH has.

The world of hxh is probaly the poorest excuse for world building I have ever seen. It's like a masterpiece of shit.

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>I feel like you drastically underestimate how much time humans spend trying to figure out how the world works
We have examples within the story of multiple groups not connected to hunters knowing about nen. It still takes time to learn and even Isaac Netero didn't figure out nen until he was past his 40s going off the whisps of aura trailing off his body during his mountain training montage. So even if a small number of people will figure out nen does exist it's still a largely unprovable skillset in a modern setting where information overload is a thing (see the death of Isaac Netero's broadcast being ignored by the population at large) and where the average person would have to dedicate years of their life trying to learn it when they can just as easily do anything else with their lives. Plus Nen is great but not the end-all of the setting.

>Yes, but he will get it back
Putting the cart before the horse. Gon won't be relevant for a couple arcs and that's assuming we get back to him within the span of Togashi's life. By his own words Gon's story can be seen as over and he's writing whatever else he wants at this point because he likes it. If we ever get the Gyro arc you can complain, for now Gon is a nenless normie doing homework on an island.

>it's still a largely unprovable skillset in a modern setting where information overload is a thing
it would take one individual who knows nen to create a video on the internet and absolutely destroy the world. I'm surprised hisoka hasn't done it for the luls

I'm now picturing hisoka doing an instructional youtube video on nen and it sounds kino

Also doesn't the internet itself run on nen? Like come the fuck on

>the internet runs on nen?
Wait what? Seriously?

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Oh man the denial.

It is 100% fact that Gon will get his nen back, he's been a special shonen boy for this whole story and it's not about to stop. Hell Ging even mentioning his aura should make it obvious they're going to get some other calamity thing from the dark continent or whatever Togashi comes up with to give him powers again.

Ging LITERALLY said it's still there he just had to train again

>see the death of Isaac Netero's broadcast being ignored by the population at large
I'm not sure why but you saying this made me laugh so hard

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watch him wish his nen back
actually why didn't they just wish him back AND have his nen again?

>they are the bronies of Yea Forums
That fits too well

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Yeah apparently it does. But remember nen is also this super big secret

You make it sound like it's your 1st time seeing an impulsive reckless character. It's his personality not potential.

>anyone can have the same personality & mindset & be dumb enough to do crazy shit like sacrificing their future bec that's how things work

It feels like potential if craziness can unlock super rage powers

>it would take one individual who knows nen to create a video on the internet and absolutely destroy the world.
Ever watch a video of a shaolin monk doing crazy stuff? You going to go spend years in a monastery learning it now or are you going to keep surfing the internet instead? Plus even if the ability is made with conjuration special effects are a thing now so you cannot trust anything.

Nen seems like the kind of thing that would be front page of the National Enquirer.

Whether or not Gon can get his nen back is not up for speculation because it's just as likely the strength of his conviction to give everything up will forever inhibit that. Ging says this to him over the phone. And there's going to be a long stretch before anyone can even pretend Gon will be relevant to the story so just wait.

People keep saying this but it's never been shown where in the story it's said the internet runs on nen. There's special internet clearances for people with hunter ID's but it's not based on nen you swipe your card.

gon is true madman

Wow this is based

>Long stretch

Yeah maybe it'll feel like that because of hiatus's but once the current arc is over Gon will come right back you watch.

>super rage powers
Do you even watch/read the series? It's like you know nothing about nen. Kurapika wasn't in rage mode when he made his contract.

Gon's moral compass/personality was already foreshadowed even in the first exam arc. It just slowly build up over the years. Then finally getting the idea/method during the Greed Island arc via Biscuit.

It doesn't. There are internet sites which operate on NEN but not the entire internet. Ah, if only Yea Forums worked on this principle so normies couldn't access it...