One Piece has been going for over 20 years

>One Piece has been going for over 20 years
>still as popular as ever
What, in your own words, is the secret to One Piece's success? What makes it so good that it still holds up 20 years running?

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Nostalgia. Same reason people still watch Dragonball despite Super being an insult.

oda literally stole everything that made DBZ popular for one piece

we are one arc away from luffy having a attack that changes his hair colour

OP came out at the perfect time, especially the anime. DBZ was over and anime started to become popular/mainstream outside of Japan.
And now people are so invested in it, why would they stop after already reading/watching 500 chapters/episodes?
Also

filthy rats never die

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The same thing that made old video games good, they were about a love of creativity and the studios weren’t ruined and still fresh.
Oda never sold out, he loves One Piece way more than most other authors seem to love their stories, and readers like that.

im posting this before the "hunterFags" show up

spread the word boys, theyre actually beta cucks, youtube clip very related

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Because the manga keeps legitimately getting better (in general). Oda is actually not a total hack when it comes to writing something this fucking long THUS FAR at least.

t. guy who read the whole fucking manga over the past few months while bored at work

>Oda never sold out, he loves One Piece way more than most other authors seem to love their stories
That's the thing though, every author loves their own work, but how come Oda manages to keep up expectations this long without his manga turning into shit?
Most long-running mangaka fall into a trap where things get more and more shit over time, yet Oda's quality never really dropped over the years while every other mangaka's has.

kek, based edit

One Piece is losing readership:
V.69: 3,147,224
V.70: 3,039,487
V.71 : 2,890,263
DROP
V.85: 2,400,524
V.84: 2,393,553
V.83: 2,435,076
DROP
V.92: 1,776,868

In less than 20 volumes this series has lost between 700,000 to 800,000 readers.

One can notice a steady drop over the years, as the interest in One Piece fades for each new arc.

One Piece sales per year:
>2010
32,343,809
>2011
37,996,373

>2017
11,495,532
>2018
8,113,317

Between 2011 and 2018, One Piece has lost 29,000,000 yearly sales. This is the biggest flop in the history of manga. No other manga has lost this many sales in such a short amount of time.

Now, let us compare the other series with One Piece and they are doing over a prolonged period of time.

This was calculated over a few years.
>One Piece - 5,969,851 ---> 3,110,049
>Haikyu!! - 3,086,097 ---> 2,523,071
>My Hero Academia - 2,097,088 ---> 2,516,768
>Black Clover - 790,032 ---> 2,033,277

OP lost nearly 3M sales, while BC and MHA sold more and HQ lost 400k. With this we can conclude that One Piece is dying.

Weekly schedules are hellish. It takes a huge toll on the body and is very prominent in long running series. Many can't keep up with it thus the quality goes down with time. It's also hard to plan out a story when you don't know for how long you are going to be published. Is it going to be well received or get axed within 10 chapters? Is the magazine going to let you end the manga how you want to or will you be forced to prolong it? This is partly the reason why so many make up the story as they go along and only have a very basic idea on how they want the story to progress.

>minor flaws
Gave me good chuckle.

So what's the deal with Oda?
Some mangaka get free reign to take breaks whenever they want, some have to live with the enormous stress of weekly issues. Yet Oda's the only one who can still provide the same quality all these years.

without saying >muh battle shounen, explain how any of my stated flaws have a meaningful impact on the narrative strength of OP.

It's already a commonly accepted fact that OPs fights are its weakest aspect. Its label as a battle shounen doesn't mean that it's automatically shit.

He's willing to die for one piece. You'll be hard pressed to find another mangaka with that much devotion.

Please shitmuncher. Dressrosa was a laughably executed arc and Oda literally retconned his own characterization of Doflamingo because he made him way too overpowered to be beaten. This hack writer can't even be consistent within single arcs anymore. He teasers and spoilers and foreshadows various character traits, and Doflamingo goes (and has to go) against everything he stood for throughout the series and lose in a battle of pride. So laughable given how the entire build up to the arc portrayed him as a level headed villain, a person who doesnt underestimate people, one who built his empire from the shadows and lets people die to vapid shit instead of confronting them directly. Doflamingo's "loss" was so pisspoorly written it physically hurt. Violated almost every single basic rule of writing literature.

I see we have a literary scholar among us. Please do go into detail on all the basic rules of writing that Oda went against as well as you're analysis of doflamingo and how he was retconned/badly written.

People who like One Piece are the same people who like the Majin Buu arc of Dragon Ball. They'll eat up all the shit in the world so long as it appeals to their inner manchild who only cares about ebic moments.
This is also the reason why they don't like JoJo's, HxH and don't even touch slow paced series without a focus on fights like Akagi and Berserk (and Berserk's focus is the characters and story, not the fights within that story).
One Piece is quite honestly the Marvel of Japan. Each arc is basically the same, just change a few of the names and where each character is in the arc. Compare it to another formulaic long running series like Detective Conan. It's slow paced and has had a grand total of around 6 arcs in its 1000 chapter run, this is because its focus is on characters and mysteries rather than the main story. Rum will get lipservice every now and then, but the focus is solving well thought out mysteries, and they are well thought out.
In One Piece, each arc lasts around 100-150 chapters, all being nearly the same except the first few. Luffy and co. go to island, island is being dominated by evil oppressor, Luffy and co. fight the lackeys and work their way to fighting the main villain where they'll have a "WE ARE NAKAMA" moment and Luffy will get Gear 5 or some shit. It's formulaic in the bad way, where it's just every other bland shounen but it beat the rest to the punch on this. Conan is unlike a vast majority of its peers and goes for something actually interesting, mysteries, not limited to murder like the common misconception.

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one piece has been pretty bad after the first half of the series ended
its normal sales are dropping

>I dont like long thing
>OP long so it shit
that's just like, your opinion man

Ops arcs are interconnected, something DB fails to do so your comparison is tacitly untrue

the world building. each arc basically adds another layer to the world until it gets to a point where you sit and think about all the different shit that is going on in that world, just as if it would be some political bullshit that would be in real life.

It's like the story takes life on a differnt plane than other stories.

I said OP was bad because it used already overused Shounen tropes and put them on repeat for near 1000 chapters.
And the DB Comparison was that One Piece fans enjoy actual garbage. Nothing about interconnectivity, but that just lends itself to the Marvel comparison, and for the low IQ out there, that means it's consumable garbage quickly forgotten and all One Piece faggots are crossboarders from Yea Forums and Reddit.
And DB does have interconnected arcs. Some arcs are a direct result of actions in previous arcs. Not taking care of Pilaf results in the Piccolo Daimao arc, beating Tao Pai Pai results in the revenge motivation in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai and helps further Tenshinhan's character arc, Piccolo Daimao creates the reason for the conflict in the following arc in his last moments, Kami involves himself in the Tenkaichi Budokai because he had been watching the previous arc and learned the mafuba, the Namek arc is a direct result of the events of the Saiyajin arc, the Artificial Humans arc occurred because of the RRA arc and Cell's power is a result of all arcs following the RRA arc.
Meanwhile, One Piece fags hype up the fact that a villain is following the main cast after their major arc, when Dragon Ball already did that twice. Once with Vegeta in the Namek arc, who was a major threat to the characters in the context of the arc, and again with Freeza, but he was just there to make Trunks cool really.

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high IQ posts

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Cost fallacy with some nostalgia. You've spent so much time and money on a series you want to see how it ends

Op doesnt just "follow up". It has far more moving pieces than your listed examples. Among Oda's hundreds of characters there's maybe a handful that I actively dislike.

I find it hilarious that you shit on OP and implicitly praise HXH when it has garbage like Alluka, the worst deus ex machina I've ever seen. I do still enjoy Hxh btw, despite its flaws (you know, like OP)

I also like Berserk. You're just another dumbass who falls into the age old trap of us-vs-them mentality.

Well it has a great mix of childlike adventure feeling, loveable characters, mystery, action, humor and drama and doesn't take itself too serious.
It's easy to get pulled in and hard to let go.

>People who like One Piece are the same people who like the Majin Buu arc of Dragon Ball.
Can confirm, but only because I thought it was really fun. As far as I remember it had the least 'ebic moments' of them all, vegata suicide bombing is the only one I can think of.
I cared way less about the praised cell tournament which seemed more 'ebic' but also too serious to me.

One Piece is for children

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Yes, and? I fail to see the issue here.

based

the most pleasant people I've met have a child in their heart

just because something is for children doesn’t make it bad. Just because something is for adults doesn’t make it a mature and worth time investing. One Piece is a fun series that doesn’t take its self too seriously, it can be deep when you look into lore and realize how many moving pieces are in this story to make the world and it’s rules work. You can watch some episodes of One Piece and just enjoy them for what they are, but once you go down the rabbit hole of trying to understand everything that’s where it shines. There’s so many things going on at once or could happen at once that idk how Oda can be consistent in quality

>wacky funny face enjoy adventure very fun no need to use brain

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seething

GODA did it again in Wano and even put them on the vol cover page lol

This is what happens when it tries to be deep and serious

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>I only read mature comic strips for mature individuals like myself

>anecdotal evidence

>so funny skeleton

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You need to be 18 in order to post here. Please leave Yea Forums.

Immediately stopped reading when you said they don't like jojo or hxh. I like both. My favorite part of jojo is 8. Don't just assume things; you'll just look like a retard.

Why only use the same type of funny face?
I will only feel insulted by a proper collection.

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>user thinks literature is a hard science with inarguable truths

that user made a sweeping generalization; all it takes to prove one wrong is one example.

>he thinks OP is supposed to be deep
im surprised you made it past middle school english

>the best shitposters can come up with are two scenes that happened within the first 5 chapters of serialization in a 22+ year 900+ chapter series.
Really says something about the quality of the series.

>luffys hamburger face when ace dies
>the ship talking
>chopper becomes a mascot
>countless fart jokes
there is tons of material

Who are you quoting?

wrong board, user.

Isn't every arc just formulaic? Go to island, there's an evil tyrant, Luffy defeats tyrant, feast. How more repetitive can you get?

if you didnt feel anything with Merry you're a fucking psychopath devoid of empathy. Luffy face is literally a meme opinion. what fart jokes? I can think of Brooks intriduction and coup de boo pre-ts. surely you aren't making stuff up to pad an argument with no substance?

>mascot
that's one

how can you read this shit?

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One Piece follows the if it ain't broken, dont fix it formula

>when ship die i cry so much because of many adventures together but now ship is dead so sad

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>not understanding the beauty of an inanimate object who has had so much love poured into it that it gains consciousness and free will

like I said , psychopath

I'm glad everybody stopped calling nakama untranslatable and just said crew or friend. Looking back, it was stupid as all hell.

>but how come Oda manages to keep up expectations this long
1) I believe oda has had the major points of the story planed for a long while. Somewhere I read him say "If I told OP the way I wanted to, we would be here for 10 (?) more years?" and also "The story is 1/3 completed" in an sbs some time ago.
2) His artstyle isn't as elaborate as others'
3) Formulaic as all shit. new island/place -> help pls -> unimportant plot -> important plot -> melodramatic unimportant plot -> fight -> fight -> victory

>yet Oda's quality never really dropped over the years
IMO, this is wrong. The quality suffered a lot after the time skip and just got back on track with Dress Rosa. Also, pic related.

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