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Nice meme, He mastered the rasengan in a week and created the rasenshuriken a jutsu not even Minato one of if not the most talented shinobi in history could do. Stop shitposting I don't even think Naruto as a series is that good but the argument that he was supposed and portrayed to be untalented was and always will be retarded. I mean he saved the entire village from the one tails at age 12.

>He mastered the rasengan in a week and created the rasenshuriken a jutsu not even Minato one of if not the most talented shinobi in history could do.
He cheated by using shadow clones because he had the chakra pool to do so.

>He cheated by using shadow clones because he had the chakra pool to do so.
That's not cheating that's just one of the many ways he was talented kek. Also he only needed to do that because of the nine tails seal if you notice once he removed the seal in the war he was able to do all his jutsu one handed without the need of a clone or chakra arms even sasuke commented on how insane his chakra control was.

I think rather than Naruto being a bad student, it was Jiraya being a shit teacher. I mean WTF, why didn't he teach him about ELEMENTAL AFFINITIES!? I mean sure, it was probably a retcon or something, but in retrospect it seems absolutely ridiculous that someone had to teach him something as basic as that.

>I think rather than Naruto being a bad student, it was Jiraya being a shit teacher. I mean WTF, why didn't he teach him about ELEMENTAL AFFINITIES!?
Yeah I dunno what Jiraiya was doing, I think it was implied that Jiraiya was focusing on him mastering the nine tails but that failed and ended up just fucking him over since he loosened the seal so much.

Kishimoto obviously intended to point out that he was not talented, just hard working. Like Rock Lee, except he had backup from kyuubi and dumb luck on his side.

Not that user, but I think the issue is less about whether or not Naruto "cheats", but rather about stuff like the whole "bloodline issue" with Neiji. Although we did indeed have a lot of foreshadowing that Naruto is more than he seems, it just felt so cheap how after making a huge speech of "overcoming destinity" or "defying fate" it turns out that Naruto is "the chosen one" and Neji ended up doing EXACTLY what his destiny entailed (sacrifice for main family) with the rather laughable excuse of "MUH did it by my own will tho!"

>Kishimoto obviously intended to point out that he was not talented
Nice headcanon, Kakashi literally says during the training that Naruto is the only person in the world talented enough to surpass Minato stop coping. And lets not forgot right after that he goes and masters Sage Mode something Jiraiya couldn't even do in a matter of weeks.

>Although we did indeed have a lot of foreshadowing that Naruto is more than he seems, it just felt so cheap how after making a huge speech of "overcoming destinity" or "defying fate" it turns out that Naruto is "the chosen one" and Neji ended up doing EXACTLY what his destiny entailed (sacrifice for main family) with the rather laughable excuse of "MUH did it by my own will tho!"
Yeah I can agree with this the entire last half of the war arc in general was fucking retarded and pretty bad. I just hate when people blatantly ignore that fact that Naruto was always jesus tier talented since chapter 1.

>A-amazing, he’s conjuring water from the air with his chakra
>S-so t-this is the power of the legendary hokage
>Then we get jutsus that warp time and space, black flames that never extinguish and gravity pulls

Taking naruto ball Z seriously Kek

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