Did you know that Japan chose to be defeated by the atomic bomb and juked US with its perfect plan=

>implying US needs to land
Japan was poor as fuck and already starving, harsh winter, blockade and more bombings would have had done them in. Just repeat until the land is devoid of life

because he beat general macarthur at mahjong?

>not knowing japs were already used to bombing and were fine
Winter would fuck up the US more than japan, also chemical warfare.

>Japan got used to 100k casualties per raid
>Winter would fuck up cozy bomber pilots and ship crews even though war lasted over 3 years
Are you japanese?

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>what is visibility
>what is war expenses
Good thing you're not an army general.

>what is visibility
People warred during winter you know.
>what is war expenses
Total war bitch, US didnt even break a sweat when dismantling the japanese. Plus at some point expense becomes secondary, Japan was going to surrender or to die out.

Japanese Nationlism scares me.
Like this would be me saying 'Nam Vet mistreatment didn't happen and that even though we lost the Vietnamese were the real losers.
I dunno if you're making a Rakudai reference or not but god that bothered me more than it should have.

>Swordians
Fuck you for reminding me of that trash series.

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>Japanese Nationlism scares me.
Grow a spine and get a sense of humor. Japanese cope for WW2 and after is almost always hilarious.

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This. Japanese getting btfo and them still being butthurt at US is comedy gold

Soviets were marching to Japan. USA wouldn't like it so they forced Japs to surrender before Soviets will take more Jap land. Even after nuke Japan tried to take back their islands.

And now Japanese have to obey Sony HQ in Commiefornia.

Stop trying to argue with Japanese nationalists. They're as delusional as Neo-Nazi's. We should have fire bombed more of their fucking rice paper homes. Curtis LeMay do it again.

>worst atomic buttfucking in all of recorded history
>"fool, you've played right into my hands!"

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Yeah until you start seeing 'Isekai world is corrupt as shit until we bring our honarabu imperialistic ideals and/or vent our frustrations of WW2 out on innocent third party to purchase slaves.' over and over
And don't even get me started on when you get someone like the GATE author.

MERELY PRETENDING

Everything you said is humorous, I don’t see the issue here.

I mean, we did keep on bullying Vietnam for decades afterwards and even now that it's finally been allowed to recover by the US it's one of the most corrupt countries in all of asia, so even when Vietnam won it lost.

Vietnamese have healthcare

imagine coping this hard

>Japanese Nationlism scares me.
its fucking hilarious, like Gate denouncing american and german war crimes while painting japs as just poor victims

>vent our frustrations of WW2 out on innocent third party to purchase slaves
this one pleases my penis so its ok

It’s horrifying that that ideology still exists.

this is the worst manga of all times and i love it

That's just a testament to how shitty the US has become.

Finally, some tasty Spooder in Rapeland thread. Kabutomushi best girl.

Since that page was from Arachnid, we'll continue our Wasp posts here.

Keep in mind that the Scanlator of Himenospira is an Edgelord /pol/tard, but did a fine job at providing the goods.

literally shaking rn

WHAT even was Yoriko's problem?

Cease, don't shit up a normal thread with that cancer, that thread is rightfully sinking to page 10.
Fuck MD and fuck MD apologists, they're all fucking niggerfaggots.

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Everyone in Arachnid was too autistic for their own good.

Sequel news when?

This is now Wasp thread

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>However, Shigetaka Kurita, director of Kadokawa Dwango corporation, criticized Azur Lane for "lacking the sense of tragedy and heroism in Kantai Collection", describing it as "merely an idol action game with a fleet motif", as "the greatest appeal of Kantai Collection is the sorrow of the Imperial Japanese Navy", "one might cry playing KanColle but not Azur Lane"
>sorrow of the Imperial Japanese Navy

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>sorrow of the Imperial Japanese Navy
yeah man, those doujins about shimakaze getting fucked in the ass did a good job at portraying the noble sacrifice of japanese sailors

Take this from an anti imperialism leftist, those 2 are not comparable. Many more (including innocents) would have died had America not used those bombs, and its not like we chose to drop 2 for fun, they didnt surrender so we dropped one, they still didnt surrender so we dropped another then they finally surrendered.

Japan is the worst batch of losers in history. The mental gymnastics they use is hilarious.

YOU GOT FUCKED HARDER BY THE USA THAN YOU FUCKED THE REST OF ASIA, JAPAN

YOU LOST

DEAL WITH IT

P.S. THE YAMATO WAS A PIECE OF SHIT THAT GOT SUNK BY A SMALL DETACHMENT OF ELEVEN AMERICAN FIGHTER PLANES WHO BROKE OFF FROM THE MAIN BATTLE JUST TO MOP UP THAT SAD EXCUSE OF A SHIP LITERALLY THE MOST USELESS BATTLESHIP IN HISTORY

Screw the rules I have Anime

>on the brink of surrender

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That is a reductive grasp of the situation that we keep to assuage guilt. Japan was ready to surrender, but America wanted an unconditional surrender where they could dictate the terms with no talkback. The war could have ended without the bombs, the bombs just made it 'cleaner.'

If that was the case why did they not surrender after the first bomb was dropped? An unconditional surrender was also important so that we could dismantle the empire and create a democracy (or rather, a constitutional monarchy)

The Japanese were not going to surrender, they were ready for a siege against a land invasion. It would have been a huge loss of life for both sides and the war would have dragged out for a long time. Most likely, it would have probably ended in an armistice like the Korean War. Additionally, parts of Japan would have been occupied by various countries which included Soviet Russia, which would have made another Communist crisis for the non-Communists to deal with in the future. Don't talk about shit you don't know.

I like how Commodore Perry's shit eating grin could be considered the domino that started a chain reaction that would culminate in humanity splitting the atom and bombing a country so hard that they had to retroactively dub their own country "culture of cute."

I honestly hope Perry is burning in the 13th layer of hell right now.

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>I like how Commodore Perry's shit eating grin could be considered the domino that started a chain reaction that would culminate in humanity splitting the atom
lol no

Japan doesn't understand that getting nuked twice is better than having a significant number armed communist fucks inside your country.

>the atomic bombs were an INSIDE JOB all along!
Toppest of keks. Someone send this to /pol/.

Is this a patriotic conspiracy theory?

Oof. Imagine living in a country with no universal healthcare.

You must be a literal unironic "I want to be Japanese" weeaboo if you actually believe that either of those were even problems for the U.S at that point.

Never get tired of posting this. Surprised they even brought up Nazi's as a point when they were straight up allied with them

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You can certainly try to prove me wrong

Where's that from? GATE?

I feel like GATE is written by an in real life Danzo from Naruto.

This entire thread reeks of non-ironic weeaboo filth.

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>tumblr

How did Perry going into Japan split atoms.

Kantai Collect captures the Japanese soul

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good doujin

w-we got nuked because we wanted guys

I mean, That's not wrong.

If the US had landed their forces in Japan, there would likely have been mass suicides throughout the country before the war ended properly, and The soviets would have been involved leading To japan getting split up like Germany.

Those were the main reasons the US went with the Nuclear option.

Read: Imagine living in a country that actually has healthcare.

Feels good, man.

It’s wrong because it’s trying to say nukes were according to keikaku, when Japan could have just surrendered outright to avoid soviet occupation.

The part when the media and foreign media start portraying the JDF as literal evil for going to war to the empire to try to rescue the politicians that were working on the peace treaty.
The one portrayed there are anti government media and it also shows BBC reporters.

>everyone only thinks about themselves and don't have the spirit of selflessness
>they're weak soldiers who give up easily when the going gets tough

Will Japan ever man up to their loss? They just can't admit that Americans fought damn hard and beat them outright. Even a casual glance at the battles of WW2 will show you that Americans and their allies never, ever gave up when the going got tough and sacrificed everything for their loved ones.

I know, I was thinking in the sense of "sick burn, man". It really feels good to have healthcare.

>general macarthur looks like one of those old fat guys who NTR's the hentai protag

Short answer: never
They aren’t going to admit they were wrong, but they also aren’t going to try to do the same thing over again. Basically think redeemed DBZ villains.

He NTR'd Japan's Emperor. They call him the Gaijin Shogun in Japan.

>but they also aren’t going to try to do the same thing over again
I wouldn't rule it out. Abe is trying his damndest and the Japanese youth are actually becoming extremely militant because they look down on they see their pacifist elders as weak and they don't know the horrors of war like the older generation does.

You have no clue. If the emperor tried to surrender the generals would have fucking stabs him to death and continued fighting. There was literally a Japanese general and soldiers trying to capture the Emperor to assassinate him even after the two nukes because he was going to surrender.

The full context there is that Japan is nuked on purpose by an ageless loli who wants to curb populations for no explained reason and later conspires to cause a rape zombie apocalypse in Japan.

Arachnid was something.

They do though. Russia scared the absolute shit out of them

I'm surprised they didn't slaughter every nip soldier they came across after their fake surrender antics

Yeah I'm sure those isekai consuming herbivoremen are itching for war

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>33.0% of the Japanese population is above the age of 60, 25.9% are aged 65 or above, and 12.5% are aged 75 or above.

>43%

bullshit, our only hope against invaders is bury them in corruption and bureaucracy

im glad ill live long enough to see the devastating effects of choices asian countries made
>japan declining workforce + hate immigrants but importing a large part of their workforce, especially with the olympics around the corner
>china imbalance gender ratio and the fact that a bunch of their pop are poor as fuck and have been sacrificed
theres already tons of studies but seeing it play out is sociology dream

>theres already tons of studies but seeing it play out is sociology dream
hrw.org/report/2019/03/21/give-us-baby-and-well-let-you-go/trafficking-kachin-brides-myanmar-china

No need for studies. Real world effects are happening now.

>high standards of living aren't worth fighting for to preserve
>corrupt and oppressive third-world cesspits are

Wtf, humanity?

I really want to post pic related in Yea Forums and watch the autistic shitstorm of "comics during WW2"

To be fair, Germany could've conquered western Europe if they hadn't fought America. It was the Japanese fault that Axis powers lost the war.

>Vietnam is top 5
Um

both china and russia would have taken over japan and force it into communism. surrendering to the us allowed them to survive and in exchange the us has military bases close to the commies. its a win win scenario.

>when japan is to blame for real for the downfall of western civilization

Because it had nothing to do with the bombs in the first place, conventional firebombing did the same and worse to the japanese cities long before nukes. Japan was ready for the US invasion in 1946 and had hopes to prolong war enough to negotiate better surrendering terms for itself, but then USSR joined the war, in couple of weeks seized Manchuria with all Japans remaining mining infrastructure, Sachalin, Kuril islands, and was ready invade unprotected Hokkaido in just weeks.
US actually allowed Japan to save some face , so they could surrender becaause of "new wonder weapon", and not because of the hordes of western barbarians.

They would never have beaten Britain, let alone the Soviets. Add the Americans and they took on the three greatest industrial powers on earth at once. Krauts are pretty ok at tactics and just unsalvageable at grand strategy.

Germany was already plenty fucked when the Americans joined the war because of the failed soviet campaign, them coming to "save the day" didn't really matter as much as Americans would like to think.

That’s stupidest thing I’ve ever read.

Actually soviets were going to postpone invading Hokkaido. They didn’t have the necessary numbers of landing craft for such an operation.

Japan had no way of knowing that, and soviets already did a number of landings with just torpedo boats and destroyers.

bad plot

While I generally agree that Germany was probably doomed even if America didn't join the war, I don't think their loss was certain, and it would have taken considerably longer, with more and more casualties racking up in the meantime.

Historically accurate, too.

>74%
Remember around Finns, the ice is thin

Only if youre good looking or a foreigner though

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I know it's bullshit, but considering the state of the US today, it's plausible.

A soviet invasion was a total impossibility. They didn't have a navy capable of invading in the Atlantic let along the Pacific.
The parallel universe where Japan is partitioned between the US and USSR is the one where the oceans boiled in some freak volcanic activity and the red army fucking walked.

what do you mean?

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Women are picky

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Almost as funny as amerilads still being butthurt over 911

It's Gaygang all of 2019

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>this delusion
The United States had operation downfall built with 7 nukes in mind. These nukes wouldn't be dropped on cities, they'd be dropped on entrenched enemy positions. Doctrinally this is the first appearance of tactical nuclear weapons.
Had Japan not surrendered they would have been nuked at least 7 more times, and the US would've marched their GI's right through ground zero 20 hours later.

People incapable of imagining the utter devastation that would have been the result of Operation Downfall actually disgust me. Fuck off and read a book.

The US saved everyone
Don't joke about that, it's not funny

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Who would even _want_ to fight against Papua New Guinea? They got nothing of value

they got gold out of their ass, man. Which probably belongs to foreign mining companies, but still.

Sauce?

Holy fuck

Why are you conflating a part of a manga with the opinion of the mangaka?

Why aren't they fucking?

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>worst atomic buttfucking in all of recorded history
Name 10 others

Malthusianism.

Most japanese women are fucking hideous dude. The average white woman is still fuckable but the average japanese woman have disgusting crooked teeth and gigantic cheek bones. If I was a Japanese man I would just date a gaijin woman.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read on the internet, most Japanese people don't even understand why Japan was fighting the USA because it's not part of their education and many sees Japan as the victims of WW2 since they are the only country who have ever been nuked.
I mean, Kancolle just loves seeing the ships as tragic figures.

chernobyl, fukushima, three mile island, and several soviet subs that nuked themselves

really?

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>The average white woman
Is a obeast.

The average white women is over weight.

Perry is continually isekai'd into world's that japanese had been a few gen before, in order to fix the retardation they bring with them.

I mean, American schools don't teach about how America royally screwed Latin America in the name of "defeating communism." Every country has their own propaganda.

That reminds of that article an unattractive white woman wrote complaining about how hard it was for her to get a date in Japan because she thought Japanese men thought she was too intimidating since she was white.

every sociology class in college is about how the US and everything it stand for is evil, though

Those 3rd worlds have so little they would kill to mantain it, it seems.

That's college though, I meant HS. Well actually then again every state has their own board of education and I went to HS in Texas. The average American doesnt even go to college anyway.

Again, these are only stuff I learned on the internet which are probably wrong or I'm misunderstanding something but Japan being in the political mindset they are in now is partly because America wanted Japan to be democratic and capitalist as quickly as possible to mitigate any communist influence from gaining traction there.
So as I understand it, Japan refuses to formally apologize for war crimes, not teaching it's populace about why they went to war is because America would rather have them repressed than have them red.

>The average American doesnt even go to college
wut

well yeah, no one wants to learn how to hate their own country for free. the parents already do that

More like because Italy was a liability.

What a bunch of fags.

>several soviet subs that nuked themselves
Delete this.

>never have beaten Britain
They literally had, then left them alone hoping to not have to utterly crush a western power and wanted help against the commies. Churchhill is a traitor to the western world, and Hitler was too soft.

Nigger its not the 50s anymore. 70% of HS grads go to college now. But only 33% of adults over 25 have a college degree currently. That number is gonna rise.

I mean it happened 70 years ago so who even gives a shit anymore

South America screwed itself, and fuck communism you retard.

This. America did heavy damage but the people of SA ducked themselves beyond that instead of fixing it.
Also considering the state of commie and socialist states it is better to have been fucked once than to be fucking Venezuela, Cuba or Bolivia.

t. Burger
Educate yourself, dude. Read up on all the shit the United States did as recently as fucking 2009 in Latin America. Hillary Clinton was responsible for a coup in Honduras which tripled violence and poverty. Shits fucked.

It's not America's fault that shitskins don't know how to run a country.

Their countries were shit holes long before CIA niggers touched them. You can't fix bad genetics. Even Argentina which was a 1st world country screwed itself by importing bad genes in mass scale. Places like Honduras never stood a chance by nature of their own sad births.

Imagine the PTSD.

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And who enables that? Your countrymen.

With or without US intervention Honduras was and would be a shithole. And that is the truth for all central america and most of south america.

Mine did, and if you did eventually learn you should know that the root of it is the Monroe Doctrine, not anti-Communism.

Tron? Like the movie tron?

"just like in my mangas"

Keep telling yourself that. The truth is, Americans are a bunch of hypocrites who talk about freedom and individuality but go into other countries and interfere with their govenment for their own gain, and then say its in the name of freedom. Karma got you faggots good when Russia interfered in your elections.

Russians interfered in many elections.

>Japanese Nationlism scares me.
Japan nantionalism is a fucking joke m8.
Dont be a fag.

you should be thankful that big bro kept the commies out, or do you really think Latin America would succeed where every other communist country failed?

And some unsuspecting nevadan scorpions.

Don't act like you wouldn't scope out any hot chinese women to rape. I mean they were all going to die anyway.

Keep using America as a scapegoat.

Reminder the Aztec were no better than the Spanish.

1st world countries are more educated and know the real reasons why our leaders would want to go to war. We also know the horrors of it and aren't willing to blindly go marching to our deaths especially if isn't immediately affecting us.

3rd world countries are rife with conflict and are constantly being taught how grand everything will be once those random assholes down the street are dead.

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>Russia interfered in your elections.
Is this bait? lmao.

>failed as communist countries with USSR backing
>failed as capitalist countries with American backing
>failed as socialist countries on their own
Savages can't build a proper socisty regardless of their economy and government.

>aren't willing to blindly go marching to our death
It's not so much the death as it is the marching.

First i am not an american, and second i know the USA goverment is full of socipaths and two faced snakes.
That doesn't absolve LatAm from taking care of itself. The level of corruption, greed, and stupidity in central america has been there before America decided to enter.
As for south america things are less severe in compariso but shit got fucked too a century or two after their independence, few countries in SA had the potential to become first world countries but they blew it.
Also everyone is constantly interfiering in everyone's elections, are you dumb? It is up to the country to defend it's ellections.

What?

Of course they weren't, who say they were?

Those landings are what made Soviet leaders realize they needed help in landings.

One ended a war, one exacerbated a war. If the 9/11 attacks were so massive that America just gave up and stopped it's retarded cars it would have been an entirely different story.

>save face
Why is this so important for asian cultures?
They would rather act retarded to save face than do the smart or right thing.

I honestly don't know why they didn't attack the Fed or something that would cripple America, instead of just making them afraid for a year or two.

That does makes sense actually. Japan was already losing the war back then and if they didn't surrender, Russia along with US would invade them through ground and Japan will become German 2.0. Whether the nuke is inside job or not, It gave the Japan a valid reason to surrender to US.

Could you imagine how the world would be if Japan was split in two after the war?

better that than some other cultures where honor does not exist.

It would be Reifags vs Asukafags.

>tfw no anime or vidya

He means (or at least I think he means) the sinking of the USS Scorpion; it was an American nuclear submarine that mysteriously sank (wreckage was found though) and one of the theories of its sinking (although not the most popular) is that the Soviet Union sank it as revenge for the K-129 (a Soviet submarine that also mysteriously sank, some blaming the Americans for sinking it).

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Imagine if USA listened to Churchill and nuked Russia into the ground before the Cold War started.

But didn't Churchill WANT to go to war with Germany?

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Not really, losses were highter that the japanese ones, but not that muh compared to the overall resourses. But it didn't matter- most of the Kuril islands was captured without any opposition, it was already after emperor announced capitulation, Hokkaido would be the same, it was USA who opposed it, and soviets decided not to try and start a new war.

Hokkaido would have provide more opposition than the juries. Like I said they needed proper landing ships.

>tragedy and heroism
>KC is more than an idol action game with a fleet motif
>one might cry playing KanColle
You better have pulled that quote out of your ass. It gives me a flashback to like 2012 of a screencap of a guy explaining with vehemence how my little pony is an undeniably groundbreaking work of fiction in history.

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>That Pic

user go have sex. I guarantee you it isn't all the nigger rappers make it out to be.

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Give me some cringy yamato damashi manga to see how ridiculous Nip is when it comes to wanking, like the GATE one.

That idiot got fired. Kadokawa though he was delusional.

Now everyone believes atomic weapons are evil and the USA is a tyranny. The plan worked, and the sin of America won't be expunged until it pays reparations.

You are mistaking churchill for patton, the latter of which was assassinated for holding the opinion you described.

Japan was fucked or else be more fucked. There are no right choice here. Japan was destroyed completely.
Such a fate of idiots country that is Japan and Germany.

It wuld provide no opposition at all, most probably, other islands already surrendered without figthing.

>implying Uncle Sam will give up a coin
Kek, Vietnam has been petitioning reparations for agent orange for years but never got it.

Anime is not real life, japanese men are huge hervibores and like their women they are ugly as hell is not like they would go for a white girl when they can't even get a japanese one.

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