Stone Ocean

>No FF in the sky
No it wasn't.

FF was a stand, so its plausible they never really existed. The FF we know was a product of Jolyne, so she definitely doesn't exist now.

I was conflicted when I first read it.

I still don't get it. What was Pucci's goal? Nobody died in the universe reset? Why was burning down the house boy immune just because he was on a dolphin? Why did Pucci go after burning down the house boy when he succeeded? But then people told me that Pucci didn't succeed and I was a speed reading brainlet for thinking so?

The dolphins were considered to be part of nature or whatever so they were operating on the same time frame as Pucci while other people were slowed.

t. Speed reading brainlet

I can't wait for the anime. I wonder what effect the ending will have on anime-onlys.
I'm still worried about part 7 though, I'm no expert but aren't horses hard to animate or something? I wonder if we'll ever get that.

Pucci wanted everyone to know their fates. This required the universe to go through an entire reset to happen but Emporio killed him before that happened. I'm not sure but I imagine everyone in Pucci's pocket universe knew their fates/past for as long as that universe existed, so that's why Emporio knew about Pucci. Pucci stopped the accelerating because he wanted to finish the job of killing everyone. I don't think Emporio would have been able to do anything himself though because he was still bound by fate. Pucci was outside fate at that time though so he caused the Weather Report disc to enter Emporio. Because Emporio killed him, the universe didn't go through a full reset (it didn't reach the time at the space center) and so Pucci's universe collapsed and he was seemingly erased from existence. Why Emporoio still remembers everything at the end though, I'm not sure. Maybe because Pucci pushing the stand disc into Emporio removed him from fate too.

Anyone still alive is brought into the new universe, which is why Pucci still needed to kill Emporio. Pucci succeed at first, but the universe reset again after Emporio killed him.

Reminder that Emporio ended up in the EOH timeline where Jotaro was a good father. He decided to call her "Irene" so that Part VI doesn't happen in his timeline.

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Will the old universe ever come back bros

We can only hope for short spin offs and shitty light novels

So, did Joseph and Josuke died too or what?

Can’t wait for my people to say “Stone Ocean was actually pretty good” once the anime gets released in two years and the bandwagoning for part 5 switches over.

probably led very different lives.

I just want the Pucci memes. I like Diavolo and all, but he's not quite as show-stealing as villains like Kira and Pucci are.

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I love Part 6, but the ending is a little too convoluted.
I think a lot of people miss that the universe reverts back to the original one after Pucci died. Why our main heroes souls are intact - just with new identities and memories - is totally beyond me. But I take it that Josuke and Joseph are still alive at the end, especially since it would be a waste to set up all these promising futures for our characters only to scrap them all in one big RESET

No if pucci did not directly kill you. Your fate remains unchanged

Basically. Everyone but Pucci is still alive but reborn in different forms with different histories

Emporio will reappear at one point probably and act as a link to it

obviously that's not true given how different Josuke, Avidol, Von Stroheim, and Dio are in the new universe

best ship

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when will retards learn that SO's ending isnt related to SBR?

Animation technology would have evolved by then

I love jolyne

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>anime gets to the ending of Stone Ocean
>softer version of the last notes of Sono Chi No Sadame play

ah yes what a coincidence SO ends with a different universe and the next part is set in one

>What a wonderfull world starts in the last moments of the ending

dude. even araki said the SBR universe is unrelated to SO's ending. stop this.

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The Ireneverse you see at the end of SO after the second reset isn't the same universe as SBR.

Just make the horses CG.

where did he say this?

90% of "Araki said" stuff is BS

Not him but any particular reason Araki decided to go down that route?

Their lives would have been exactly the same except that Pucci never existed, so in their cases nothing happened to them at all.

Changed his mind probably

Araki forgets or just changes his mind constantly. See character designs just suddenly changing

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No, everyone else is fine. The new universe went mostly the same, except Jotaro was different and the Part 6 cast being altered.

Jotaro and the Part 6 cast are dead, replaced with new people that are similar enough but not quite the same, but as a result, the Joestars are finally free from Dio's legacy.

he wanted to start over and make new interesting stories.
i dont remember which interview, i think it was the ASB one
but look: do you honestly think that gappy and josuke exist in the main universe? that koichi just haves this random female cousin?

early Part 4 art style is actually cursed

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Everyone alive was just transferred over. To them they just got teleported back a while in time, with new people who replace the dead

I like how Kobayashi shrank after Koichi defeated him.

Then explain Johnny?

Valentine has plot reasons for changing, so that can't count.

No he doesn't.

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SBR universe isn't the Ireneverse.

SBR is a completely different universe, god fucking damnit

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What happened to Giorno? Wouldn't he "withstand" the reset?

The corpse.

:(

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I always assumed the reason Araki didn't go through with adding Giorno to the plot was because of this. GER probably negated the reset for himself but then it didn't matter because Pucci's reset collapsed after Emporio killed him.

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Who should voice Jolyne?

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You sure? Pretty sure Pucci's death turned his reset into a completely topsy turvy universe instead of what he desired. Then again, it has been over a decade since I read it.

I always assumed GER would have to touch something related to Pucci or Stairway to Heaven in order to not be affected.

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dont try to force your headcanon into the canon universe

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So you have a source for them being different worlds?

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Dude, Arabic make 2 Rohan spin-offs after the end of Stone Ocean, and fuck the continuity.

You were almost a snail sandwich.

For the dub Laura Bailey, and Keith David will voice Pucci.

>there are "people" in this universe that still think the first 6 parts are connected to 7 and 8
Can we just make it legal to kill these mongs already? There is no saving them.

>Editorial mandate prohibits lesbians
>too much woman’s in the shounen

I understand why Araki hate editors

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Cuckosui would still be into it.

Is Ermes the worst "brojo" in the whole series?

Nah, that's Fugo

Yes, im pretty agree, is like a Polnaref done wrong

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That's either Caesar or Pol.

Do people really consider Fugo a Jobro when Mista exists?

Fugo is not even a brojo.

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Caesar
Kakyoin

Some of us are oldfags and still stick to the old theory that 6 led into SBR. I'm kinda sad the yellow tinted part 3 scans are nowhere to be found anymore.

1) the genealogy tree in Stone Ocean and SBR are completely different
2) the end of SBR explores the idea of infinite universes
3) whe even have a glimpse of a universe who exists between the original and SBR, symbolized by Diego2 aka asspull from hell

Kak was among the best SDC characters, and he isn't even the official Jobro of the part.

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Fuck you Caesar was based as fuck.

>Shota Hunter Reimi

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>lol let me fuck off into this obvious trap for no reason
BT's cast was full of morons.

I was always a Stone Ocean fag

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>Not Ocean Man

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...

He is according to DP and the games

Okuyasu > Polnareff > Gyro > Mista > Zeppeli > Caesar > Ermes

>part wars stirring
RIP thread

Official Stone Ocean fights tier list

>Perfection
Made in Heaven

>Elder God Tier
Pucci vs Jolyne
C-Moon
Heavy Weather
Planet Waves

>God Tier
Sky High
Underworld
FF vs Pucci
Foo Fighters

>High Tier
Limp Bizkit
Jail House Lock
Goo Goo Dolls

>Mid Tier:
Highway to Hell
Marilyn Manson
Jumpin Jack Flash

>Low tier:
Bohemian Rhapsody
Green Baby
Manhattan Transfer

>Shit tier
Yo Yo Ma
Dragon's Dream

As much as he deserves it, that obnoxious Fagnareff takes his place.

Wait part 7 and 8 is in a completely different universe from the new timeline made from Part 6?

I thought Johnny Joestar was just the new timeline's Jonathan Joestar.
But he's just a completely different person all together? Thats stupid, whats the point of the reboot universe then

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Dragon's Dream was cool.

>whats the point of the reboot universe then
It's just that, a reboot.

>Made in Heaven anime debut
>youtube.com/watch?v=171skzi5BKc starts playing

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Gyro > Yasuho > Polnareff > Mista > Ermes > Okuyasu > William > Caesar

Araki got sick of people asking why characters from the previous parts didn't just show up and fix things with their bullshit.

The SO reset was to show there are alternate universes in JoJo, paving the way for SBR and JoJolion

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He is the official Jobro of part 3 though. Polnareff has the most development and screentime out of them bar Jotaro but Kakyoin fits all the other markers for Jobro.

No money sorry, Queen's stocks are too high again

We can all agree that the best ED was Oingo Boingo right?

MADE IN HEAVEEEEEEEN
MADE IN HEAVEEEEEEN....
IT WAS ALLLLLLL MEEEEEANT TOOO BEEEE

that was the shit
fuck oingo boingo haters

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What about Diavolo, was MiH brute enough to save him?

i think diavolo was moved to another pocket universe, so he wasnt saved...

I was always under the assumption that StH just changed everything, leaving only the core aspects intact (Johnathan is now american instead of in britian for example). I'll have to reread the end of SBR, assuming you're talking about post-Valentine with Dio. Because D4C already tackled infinite universes with small changes.

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>StH
ah yes, Sade tin Heaven, stand of the famous priest ernico pssy

wasnt johnny british?
he was just in america for the SBR

>What about Diavolo, was MiH brute enough to save him?
yes in the Jorge Joestar novel

hold it, did johnny and rina have two children?

to be fair, Made in Heaven was originally named Stairway to Heaven.

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>Bohemian Rhapsody
I really forgot about imaginationland's stand's name, maybe in my mind he wasn't worthy of such name

part 6 never.

even this guy finds it difficult to analyze that stand
youtube.com/watch?v=ATwQfQaHr1k

it wasn't, sure Emporio slap the shit out of Pucci but in the end all his friends doesn't now who he is.
does Araki hate Emporio?

>meti
kaleb and shuck are better
also,
>le funny waifus

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i laffed.

hating kakyoin

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he was a meme and nothing else

>ermes
>brojo
Weather is Jolyne's brojo ya simp

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That's just because she chose to bodyjack someone who was already cute.

jolyne's jobro is never actually presented in the part
some say it's ermes, weather or FF

based analynefag

George cross half of the globe(in the SBR universe he born in Japan) only to fuck Lisa Lisa, Well, how can blame in? She is the MILF

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I don't see why not.

Honestly I'd say that Jolyne kinda runs through them.
First it's weather, then it's FF for her brief life, and Hermes is the last one since they're together until the end.

>When stormy weather comes around, it was made in heaven
Even though it wasn’t stormy, the Weather came with a revenge.

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part 6 will definitely happen to make way for SBR.

Does Jolyne dye her hair or is that it's natural color?

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Araki despises anyone in a crew that doesnt have an fighting stand.
see abba.

pretty obvious it is dyed

have you ever seen a natural blonde jap?

Jolyne is Italian

God damn, Jolyne has some monkey feet. Still hot though.

so kakyoin dyes his hair as well

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In Jojo? Yeah.

Jolyne is japanese, american/british and italian.

????

have you ever seen a naturally pink haired american like Anasui?

how does Jolyne do her hair into those nob/bun things? Is that even possible?

Her great-grandmother is an italian.

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Her mother was Italian as well, you know how japs are obsessed with Europe ever since they lost WWII.

my great-great-grandfather is from the netherlands, but im not considered dutch.

I just started Part 7, is this even set in the same universe as the others? It seems to have like zero continuity

Read the thread.

no.

It's a difference universe from 1-6.

>pisses on your face
Heh, nothin' personal Divercuck.

No, Diego was British, Johnny is from Kentucky iirc.

Part 7 and Part 8 are set in a different universe than previous 6 parts.

huh, that's kind of a let down.

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why?
everything in the og universe was done anyways.
also, FUCK the original universe, parts 7 and 8 are best parts

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Early part 4 style is patrician

>that subtle nut kick
This is perfect.

This.

>can replace body at will with different Valentines
>has no reason to look different
What?

I'm enjoying it, don't get me wrong. I will admit I'm a little tired of the sameface

>tired of samefacing
>part 7
you might not like part 8...

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Whats being conveyed here? There was a romantic connection between mista and trish?

I loved Ermes though, shes a great contrast to Jolynes calm and collected

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Dumbass, look at the Higashikata/Kira/Joestar family tree in part 8, Irene's not present

Part 8 is shit though, easily tied for worst part.

Unless he died off-screen Araki just decided to change his design mid way (He was ripped BEFORE Lucy stabbed him in the neck). All Valentines look the same

Jolyne is yet to be born in SBR verse

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How?

She won't be since Jotaro was never born, Holly married Kira's dad instead of Jotaro's.

Damn, so there's just no jotaro in sbrverse

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Sailor boy is Jotaro

JJL/SBRverse Kira is a mix of the original Kira and Jotaro.

there's 2 jotaro's in 8

KILLER PLATINUM
BITES THE WORLD

does he have a flipper fetish?

Well, I was definitely happy that it ended.
Worst part. Utter shit.

>We never got the post part 6 comfy we deserved

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Kira:
>Mona Lisa in the living room
>keeps his nail clippings
>a narcissist that keeps sculptures of his own hands
>Killer Queen

Jotaro:
>Marine Biologist
>"Man of the sea"
>trying to find a cure for Holly's curse similar to part 3

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>>Marine Biologist
My bad, I meant JJL Kira is a marine SURGEON.

Wait, he literally just has killer queen again?

Yeah I got the link thank me later broski, such a good anime :)imgur.com/a/nyqAQeS

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Why do you think so?

It's not exactly the same. The difference being it has explosives in the form of bubbles but it still has Sheer Heart Attack. No time fuckery.

Jumpin Jack Flash is one of the best fights in part 6

For me, it wasted an interesting premise/location (prison), had the worst fights in the series, very few interesting characters (including Pucci who was lacklustre as hell), just generally a slog to get through. Only JoJo I'd rank under 5/10.
Shame, since Marilyn Manson and Jail House Lock were kino.

>Holly married someone 15 years older than her

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welcome to japan.

>literal shit ending based upon Araki’s insistence of starting a new verse because he decided he wanted to write a western with horses and racing and the President of the US
>fate shoved down our throats like a white girl on blacked.com
>contrived coincidences and situations that result from LMAO ITS FATE BRO
>zany wacky Stands for the sake of zany wacky Stands
Worst part with a shit ending but a cool cast

Is this post about Part 5?

based trips, unbased post

I'd like to think she didn't even use her stand for that.

>First female JoJo
>The universe gets destroyed
>She isn't a JoJo anymore in the new universe
Sasuga Araki

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Jolyne is perhaps one of my favorite Jojo protags. At least in the top 3. But her part is so fucking heavy with so little down time we don't really get a lot of time to enjoy how fun she and her interactions with her friends can be. Whenever we get brief moments of down time seeing their interactions is a blast, but Part 6 tends to just be go go go. Jolyne would really thrive in, say, a part 4 setting.

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>Star Platinum lurking in the background.
>Joseph is still alive
>Josuke hasn't aged a bit
Question: Can Josuke de age someone? Does this work better than Joseph's Hamon?

Every other Jojo
>Amazing power, speed and can stop time
>Amazing power speed and Can 'fix' things
>Pretty decent power and speed and can create life... which basically means anything.
>Amazing power and decent speed and strings Just strings.
Jolyne really got the short end of the stick.

I mean, Jotaro didn't age much between parts 3 and 4 so I can imagine Josuke probably didn't age much between 4 and 6. It was only like 11 years.

I would like a Part 6 Jolyne hanging out with Josuke and Okuyasu doing delinquent stuff in Japan. Maybe some appearances from Jotaro.

>joseph fucking aging
Joseph is such a fucking retard

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This isn't very realistic. Where is the gang rape?

>not having watched Mobile Suit Gundam in current year

I'm watching it now since there is gang rape in it.

>>When stormy weather comes around, it was made in heaven
>>>it was made in heaven

It was an inside job, MiH is racist

>Kira is Jotaro
>Gappy is Kira
>Gappy is 1/2 Jotaro
Would you want Part 9 to be about their daughter? Would you prefer it if she was like Jolyne, or something different?

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Stone Ocean is set in 2011, so the different universe that the ending takes place is also 2011.
Jojolion also takes place in 2011, in Jojolion we saw the family tree of the Joestar. And there's no Irene there.

JJL takes place in the same year as Stone Ocean.

This could be really touching if the art wasn't so bad.

can gappy's semen even inpregnate someone? doesnt the 4 balls stuff make him sterile?

I think it would make him extremely potent.
>Part 9 stars Gappy's triplets

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newfag

>part 9 protags are Jolyne, Weather and Pucci

The opposite. Gappy probably lets out the biggest, most fertile loads that instantly impregnates any woman on contact.

Holy shit, that would actually be kind of cool. Even more so if the Pucci-sibling is still the villain and the others have to work together to stop him, sans all the Wes-Perla incest stuff.

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>wants to grow old with his wife
>retard
Ok virgin

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So why did Araki make Jotaro show up on 4 straight parts but Giorno and Josuke are nowhere to be found after their respective parts?

Talking about the original Josuke btw

Kek

based

that thing went down the drain when he decided to fuck Tomoko

He goes back to his wife anyway. He could stay looking like a 40 year old and fuck college girls.

But Susie Q forgave him in the end and they still loved each other. Most marriages have no chance of surviving that sort of thing.

>Enjoy dying, fag. I'm going to fuck my pink-haired waifu while Fugo watches from the closet

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>not Get Back

>that pic
Araki changes designs all the time, it's not news to anyone that he sketches a character/stand as soon as he has the general idea of their design, then tweaks it until he settles with something he likes. Speed King is the most recent and more obvious example.
Also
>Iggy changed from a mere dog to a more unique look because it coincides with his character development and makes him look more humane
>Kobayashi and Hazamada became shorter after being beaten by Koichi because it symbolizes them being humbled
>Valentine's look changes because it's literal several different Valentines, and he stops being fat when fat Valentine dies and switches to fit Valentine

So DP is going to do a movie series for the last third of part 6 right? They're not going to give us that with QUALITY right?

Have you seen a white Italian man that looks like this?

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>Italian
>white

wait, wasnt only his father italian?
its been ages since i read SO

They gave us QUALITY in fucking DIO's world. No final arc is safe after that.

>pic related
>also (YOU)

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What did he mean by this?

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>best tier
Made in Heaven

>high tier
C-Moon
Sky High
Underworld

>shit tier
everything else

>unholy tier
Yo Yo Ma
Green Green Grass of Home

fify

Reminder that this would definitely happen if they met

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What do you think?

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I mean Josuke and Okuyasu are hardly delinquents. They mostly just look the part. Jolyne's probably got more delinquent behavior under her belt than either of them, and even then it's implied that it's more that she's fallen into a bad crowd.

Jolyne got her delinquency from Jotaro.

Both Jotaro and Jolyne start their parts in prison.

Apart from the great ending, SO was mostly garbage. Truly the worst part.

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technically yeah lol

Stone Ocean is good with the main cast, but sucks in all the antagonists except Pucci and maybe one of the Dio's.

Jojo part set in the south. There's incest.

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