Okay, so when it comes to this ultimate fused Namekian warrior, I see two possibilities, and a really hope the latter is what will happen. Either:
A) He literally only existed to job to Moro and show how strong he's gotten
or
B) He'll be revived somehow and Piccolo will show up, merge with him, and get a massive power boost
What do you guys think will happen?
Piccolo, Gohan, Krillin and Bulma will all show up on Namek and it’ll be like old times.
Why are people so jealous of him?
His good looks.
really disgusting thots. i can almost smell their stank pussies from over here
Success breeds jealousy
You still would and you know it.
>3D
Super was most consistently in 7th place overall (56 episodes), second most consistently being 6th place (29 episodes), third 5th place (20 episodes). It was in 4th place (5 episodes) more than it was in 9th place (4 episodes), while it was in 3rd place the least (3 episodes).
Super was definitely most consistently in the 7th to 6th range overall, sometimes ahead of, sometimes behind One Piece. Super was definitely a ratings success.
I honestly see it going both ways
>bejita sama...what is a father?
>reekdom.jpg
most famous dragon ball youtuber
rich
two beautiful women in his arms
the scorn of dozens of Yea Forums incel NEETs
how does he do it bros? how can geekdom101 be so based?
t. geekdom101
kys reekdom
And yet still got rejected by Risu, who has notably low standards, liking worst KLK girl.
>liking worst KLK girl.
Nonon?
How powerful is Sealas?
unironically better design than the goat
>Risu
no shame in getting rejected by a faceless twitter tranny
Looks Luke a fan made design.
Based geekdom about to BTFO toyopacos
Super is literally fanfiction
u just made an enemy for life u shit
Goku not knowing what kissing is still gets to me.
I'm fine with Goku having never kissed, or having only kissed when Chi Chi asked him to (as I originally imagined it), but not knowing what the concept of kissing even IS is just way too retarded. That's Kid Goku level of stupid, not Adult Goku
This post is brought to you by the letter A.
Did Chi Chi make a wish to shenron or did she just rape Goku?
>if im right then everyone who didnt believe some eceleb are idiots cause muh sources
>if im wrong then im gonna be a laughing stock and lose a shit ton of "credibility"
Literal retard
>implying his fanbase won't just forget about it as soon as something new comes out
Please do not post twitter screencaps thank you
sinQ/cosQ
Why is Beerus such a worthless sack of shit?
遠からず。
Because he's a cat.
Today is Yamcha's birthday.
das cute bills
Don't call him cute. He's a lazy piece of shit. You'll only encourage him.
>Bills
I LOVE BEERUSSAMA!!!!
>Bills
You wouldn't a cat god
>please dont post twitter screencaps so i can post gay furry shit instead
kill yourself
>projecting
What does Beerus want from me? He's been acting drunk or something.
>yea, my favorite chatacter is Beerus. Got a problem with that buddy-boo?
>tfw Heroes currently has a better plot than Super
jobrentards need to leave
Super is literally copying off mlp
That actually does strike me as someone who'd like Beerus
>muh characterfag boogeyman
Cope. Concede. You lose.
happy birthday based yamucha
everyone likes beerus you projecting faggot
What is he talking about? What is the "I told you so"?
I don't
Let's celebrate by noting his achievements. I'll start. He is undefeated against Chi-Chi.
:3
behind every heroes post is a jobrentard clinging to his favorite character's last fleeting moments of relevance
I'm all for Piccolo getting some spotlight again, but getting a power up from a dying Namekian is a pretty boring retread that doesn't even have any narrative weight. Absorbing Nail represented a kind of homecoming, and fusing with Kami reflected the foundation of his character and origins. Super already reuses ideas too much.
What a knob-gobbler
Some people say he's 2-0, others say he's 2-1, but at the end of the day, everyone agrees that he has a winning record against Gocuck.
about the anime coming back
I dunno what you're talkin' about, Jiren is shit. More of a Dyspo guy.
Really? That's like saying the sun will rise in the morning.
he really wants to win this. he's one of those people.
He isn't even dead yet, he could surprise and stun him with the right opportunity.
Damn right. Even tapped Chi-Chi before making her love him. Goku got his sloppy seconds and ended up being chained to it. Sad.
Horsefuckers need to leave.
They only actually fought once, I'll give you the winning record though.
No, he came back for a second go, but got his tooth kicked out (and ran away). This was 1-1 (so long as you count Goku being unable to really fight before Yamcha's retreat upon seeing Bulma as his victory rather than a loss to her and Goku as a team thing else it is 0-2). Helping Puar take out Goku when he went berserk may not sit well with you, but it is a defeat just the same.
that namekian is probably weaker than piccolo so he's probably dead for good
>but got his tooth kicked out (and ran away).
Wasn't Chichi the one to do that though?
>Helping Puar take out Goku when he went berserk may not sit well with you, but it is a defeat just the same.
Either all assists count or none do making the score 1-1 or 1-0 for Goku.
why did goku in broly movie feel even more retarded than in dbs
He kinda felt the same, and that scene where he's telling Vegeta not to kill Broly reminded me a little bit of Z Goku.
see: >either 1-1 or 1-0
They had 3 encounters. I was asking what you made of Yamcha leaving the first upon seeing Bulma. Though he had the win in the bag (Goku was hungry), he fled upon seeing a girl. If being totally consistent, that's a loss for Yamcha.
The rematch (characters felt like Goku lost, but I don't really agree though he was losing) sees Yamcha flee again (this time for having been unprettied). The third sees Puar helping him to take down the overgrown ape. Maybe the score is more like 1-2 (favoring Goku), then?
Raped him, although the fact Chichi got pregnant means Goku enjoyed it and therefore it isn't rape.
>Goku enjoyed it
His body did, his mind did not.
he got called a retard by vegeta like 5 times in a minute, it's like a running meme
nice samefag
no u
That is acceptable, the main win count argument is way more iffy though.
Reekdom101. As soon as you hear this cunts voice, you can instantly picture him. A gelatinous, mongrel spic, almost a bastardised joke on the human form made physical. He literally looks like propaganda against racemixing from the 1800s. This dumb, ugly fucking beaner is constantly incorrect about predictions, pirating the anime and manga (then whining when he gets caught) or else jerking himself off over twitter. He genuinely thinks he’s a big shot, you are literally some fat fucking spic who talks about anime to a fanbase of 10 year olds. You are fucking nothing. Fat fucking monkey retard
>everyone in this thread is weaker than Grande Padre
Vegeta won the first fight, but Majin Vegeta vs SS2 Goku is debatable at best since Vegeta has a power up that isn't his own and Goku held back.
Then there's their fight at the end of Super we'll never know the winner of.
>tfw no timeline where Bulma hooks up with Goku as a kid in Dragon Ball and we start Z with them as a couple with a kid
>since the power wasn't his own
It literally doesn't matter (even if he hadn't been just playing Babidi as he was or if it was remotely as substantial as the advantages Goku was given as with SKW). There are no rules. This isn't a playfight. He could have someone helping him, use tools and do all manner of dirty tactics to win. Goku was holding back? Sucks for him. Must have been really hankering for that L (and he got it).
The outcome is what it is. Goku was stupid enough to offer his ass (and got raped for it). There is no debate. Just scrubs (the type who make up rules that don't exist, speak of honor/cheapness, etc. while thinking that term refers to cheap tactic users, noobs, etc. as they are total retards misusing a FGC insult) who don't accept AT's will.
>wishing such a wretched fate upon Bulma
Poor Bulma missed out.
>>tfw no timeline where Bulma hooks up with Goku as a kid in Dragon Ball and we start Z with Chichi killing Bulma out of jealousy.
reminder
>hoverhanding
i don't hate the guy like some people here, but that's awful
>yandere Chi-Chi
My dick.
>wishing such a wretched fate upon Bulma
Hey. She wondered and lamented it, canonically. I think Bulma would be ok with an idiot she's known all her life and can manipulate and understand much better than Chi Chi.
I can't even begin to imagine what their kid would be like. I guess fuse Trunks and Gohan and work from there conceptually.
She really did. Dunno who'd Vegeta would end up with.
Chi Chi WISHES she could.
Chi-Chi wanted a real man.
best tardku form
yeah, most gohanfags want goku dead
>There are no rules. This isn't a playfight.
That's why I didn't mention the KO up to now. It's important to consider the difference in power as a major factor though because a fight is meant to assert dominance at the end of the day. What good is it if the win is only a chance event that can't be replicated?
hb Yamucha-sama.
>I'll take one copy of dragon ball super broly on blu ray please!
>wondered and lamented
She would definitely be lamenting had she been so unlucky that Chi-Chi wasn't retarded enough to force herself upon Goku. Got herself a handsome Prince (who always defeats the MC), instead. Guy even becomes a better person than Goku (the real kicker). Just had to wait a little longer (no magical wishing orbs required...as more than bait, anyway).
>tfw true/best timeline is them together and in harmony
this was before she ever met lord bejita sama.
taken
>goes to Earth
>jobs
>goes to Namek
>jobs multiple times, dies
>gets revived, goes to Earth and trains for 3 years
>jobs
>trains for 2 years in the Time Chamber
>jobs
>trains for 7 years
>jobs, dies
>gets revived again
>jobs
>goes to his wife's birthday party
>jobs
>trains with a literal divine being and attains godly power
>jobs
>goes to another universe
>beats up a 12 year old, jobs
>goes to the future to help his son
>jobs
>trains for a year in the Time Chamber, returns to the future
>jobs
>fights in a multiversal tournament with his family's existence on the line
>jobs, goku saves the day
>goes to Earth
>jobs
>goes to Namek
>jobs
in the end she got Vegeta as the consolation prize
uh huh, what about it? call me back when he stopped jobbing
What a pathetic character.
who doesn't, fucking annoying piece of shit
lol I have seen a lot of GokuxChichi fans being upset and passive aggressive at the Vegeta and Bulma moment in last chapter. They remind me of SasuSaku fans.
So why has this retard been spamming every single thread today?
I hope the show doesn’t come back for another year just to spite these eCucks
I hope it comes back on 2020, that's enough time to BTFO twittertards and their e-celebs right?
BoG
>raped by beerus
RoF
>raped by Whis
>raped by frieza-dono
>raped by Sorbet-sama with a ray gun
U6 tournament
>certified 50 iq retard
>cosbied by Frost
>raped by Hit
Future Trunks
>admits to never kissing his wife
>raped by Zamasu
>raped by Black
>raped by fused Zamasus
Before ToP
>raped by Hit (again)
>raped by Arale
ToP
>forgot about his first son
>raped by fit Buu
>raped by Botamo (baseball)
>lied in front of his own friends/family without hesitation
>raped by Frieza (again)
>raped by some green man in U4
>raped by Kefla
>raped by Jiren
Broly Movie
>doesn’t know what repugnant means
>raped by Broly
Galactic Patrol
>raped by a ray gun (again)
>drained by Moro-sama
o-our hero son gokek...
>jobs to vegeta twice
>never beats him
sad.
Yeah but stupid cucks like Cuckdom said it was going to be revealed at Jump Festa but didn’t.
They will just keep pushing back the date every time they get btfo until they’re “right”
based.
i think that excuse won't work if he delays it for 1 year, even if he pulls the 'i-i told you so...!' card, we can still mock him for his 'unprecedented' sauces
Post characters that don't cry like a little bitch when they can't win a fight.
>never kissed
>merely 2 intercourses where wife had to rape her husband
>husband doesn't even acknowledge the familial bonds
how can you be a fan of that?
you don't know that yet.
One of Toriyama's editors I think wanted them to get together... so Toriyama paired Goku with Chi-Chi out of spite or something like that.
The true chad of super
The same reason people ship Sakura and Sasuke, delusions and self insertion.
He had to be inspired by that DBZ fan fiction for this. Where was this little move when Frieza was destroying their entire planet?
Behold Bulma and Goku's son. All of the power of Gohan, none of the cowardice, all of Trunk's incredible motivation, and Bulma's incredible smarts, making him the perfect son of a perfect timeline.
why are jobgetafags getting so uppity lately? could it be that they feel the impending 3-0?
Trunks is a little shit with no motivation. The only Trunks that has any motivation is the one that had Future Gohan raise him.
I like it.
Pilaf
>defeats Goku and gets defeated by Bulma's good-looks like any normal straight male would
>is about to defeat Goku again, but gets his handsome smile accidentally ruined while he was holding back and forfeits
>makes Great Ape Goku tremble in pain and defeats him with Puar's small aid
21st Budokai
>GENTLEcha allows Roshi do defeat him because he cares about his elders
>SMARTcha is the only one to connect the dots and realize Roshi = Jackie Chun
Uranai Baba
>Puar and Upa defeat Dracula thanks to EINSTEINcha's highbrow strategy
>ENDURANCEcha defeats the Invisible Man ater allowing the enemy to get many free hits
>MERCIFULcha allows the Mummy to win against him because he was clearly badly wounded, fully covered in bandages and all
>defeats Goku
see
so all you want to say for most of it
>T-THIS IS STILL A TECHNICAL WIN FOR YAMCHA...!
okay
>Trunks is a little shit with no motivation. The only Trunks that has any motivation is the one that had Future Gohan raise him.
Yes, exactly user. What do you think a child made of Bulma and Goku's superior-compatible genetics would be like?
Hello
Hi, gay boy.
better mangaka than Toyatoro.
>then she meets Vegeta
>instantly drops the jobber MC
As expected of a genius. Advice for the future, stick to canon examples, won't you? That scene never happened. Should have cited the tournament (not some more Toei shipping faggotry).
I don't get how my pinche cuz even got more than 2000 followers with his fucking anger issues. Fuck this puto...
>weirdly angular faces at every possible moment
Is it hard to draw better than him?
Is the implication here that beerus is skinny, so his fans are skinny, or is it something about weird, possibly hormonally imbalanced alt-lifestyle people like beerus because they're fans of "nu dbz"
I mean, I think Beerus is the best character introduced in the modern times, but he's not even in my top 5, so it's hard for me to understand this post.
you mean drops the jobber humanlet she was crashing with and replaces him with a discount goku since she can't have the real thing
Correct. It also never happened. The only musing she had was when she first saw him 'grown up' (as her disappointment in Yamcha grew). Chi-Chi swooped in fast to secure her personal (mutual) Hell.
>meets Goku
Wins.
>fights him again
Wins.
NOTE: Practically cheating. In the end, he knew he could do better. Maybe Broly will prove a better rival.
Yep.
So why kind of bullshit will they pull in order to beat Moro? From what we know so far we can be sure it'll be 100% retarded.
goku saves the day for the xth time
>consolation prize
>always defeats the 'main prize'
>better person in general by series end
>can actually love her and mutually desire intimacy
In what world did she not make out like a bandit here? AT's spite accidentally saved her from the foolishness of editor shipping.
Impressive. Very nice.
Yeah, but how? From what we've been told this is not an opponent you can defeat by just punching harder.
Trunks' competitiveness is a Vegeta trait. Goten and Gohan don't have it, so it's not a Goku trait.
Gohan clearly gets his rage from Chichi, so a Goku/Bulma kid wouldn't have that. Vegeta also has a ton of natural fighting talent, and that would go away. Goku isn't naturally gifted, he had to go through a fuckton of training and is almost constantly nearly dying. So yeah, as a fighter, a Goku/Bulma kid would be significantly less effective than either Trunks or Gohan.
asspull
>>better person in general by series end
>worse appearance
>loss of will is a good thing
>waaah why is my shitty gimmick mlp rip off villian going to get taken out by another gimmick??
Can't we have a DB thread and not talk about ecelebs or do you spics have something to prove?
>please make more space for my headcanon and waifuposting
>namekians relevant in nu db
They already had a shot at this and they failed hard.
post characters that have unironically defeated jobgeta in combat
>hopeless
someone has to do the job...
>COME ON, YAMCHA'S A CHEATER!
are there any more assholish mangakas than toriyama?
>u6
just because they are stronger, doesn't mean they aren't jobbers
Vegeta killed him, so no
Whatever you gotta tell yourself to justify being in love with an inferior timeline.
Holy fuck, Vegetafags are pathetic.
BROLY'S TITS
Do you even need to ask?
her
feeslbad
Reminder that Gohanks was designed by a then-15 year old Kentaro Yabuki, the creator of Black Cat and To Love-ru.
Dragon Ball S(pic)
A fight to the death end when one of the fighters dies.
Vegeta lived and Recoome died, so technically Vegeta won the fight.
Best boi
what does it matter?
That's not how it works.
>"We're putting our fight on hold"
>hits him in the back like a coward
>Jobgetafags unironically shitpost about this "victory" all day because it's ALL they have
i feel so bad for them :\
buu arc looks so bad in the manga
Toriyama was tired and didn’t want to work anymore at that point
So the fight was basically over when he said he postponed the fight, then its still 1-0?
Eh, just a little trivia
killing an unconscious man isn't a fight, and doesn't count as a win.
It was Goku's win.
There are no excuses in a fight
“H-he was distracted!” is an excuse, only losers make up excuses to justify Goku not paying attention to the fight and falling for a dumb trick
They should be so lucky that their failed relationship isn't put into the light of day any further. Just be happy AT doesn't focus in on Vegeta's healthy relationships any more than he has already.
Leaving your opponent unconscious just means the fight is paused until he wakes up or dies
Goku gave up by not fighting so Vegeta got the victory
He just better hope Chi-Chi doesn't find contraceptive letting her avoid going up against EoZ. She might just be looking for some more reverse rape 'play' in the near future.
are you guys really that desperate? Gohan fell down on Vegeta and he's unconscious, then Vegeta had just jobbed to a sleeping kid and Gohan wins by sleeping
god I wish that were me on the left
I could just imagine licking his crusty, hairy pits after he forgot to put deodorant in the morning and starts sweating profusely, while sitting at his desk, thinking of the script for his next video
this is a bit of a poor scan. It looks a lot better on the viz version. Thinner lines, more details, etc
OK, so about how strong was the super namekian? Weaker or stronger than Namek Frieza's level?
Picollo+Kami level?
And if they could do this, why the fuck didn't they do this earlier against Frieza and his army?
piccolo killed goku, but vegeta never did. he also gives vegeta the dose on the regular.
he didn't knock him out to "win the fight", retard. he knocked him out so he wouldn't interfere in his fight with buu. vegeta has more pride than to seek victory in such an underhanded manner.
No, fights are not "paused" until someone dies.
Not all fights are to the death
most aren't.
>Leaving your opponent unconscious
That's like super villain mistake number 3 right next to monologuing for too long and an easy to break into secret base.
>raffs
The Ginyu force were trying to kill Vegeta and his minions. It was a fight to the death
He still won
>all this filler
Just get to the point. Frieza dies for his beloved shota so that he may live and prospect. A true love story. Very tragic (I cry every time).
No, he didn't.
>3-0
Sounds like a good time.
d-delete this
no, he didn't. the fight ended as stated by vegeta and then he knocked him out for non-fight purposes.
while we're at it, puar cutting goku's tail off isn't a win either. they weren't fighting. desperate spics and your backwards thinking.
during the frieza arc, the nameks didn't know what was going on until frieza had already eliminated 85% of the planet.
They also didn't know how strong the opponents were. You saw how the three fighters showed up, and they were all excited. And they didn't do badly until dodoria. Not to mention they had nail, who was, at the time, the 3rd strongest being in the known universe.
And Nail DID merge with Piccolo, and we saw how that helped.
It really seems like the main difficulty the nameks had in the frieza fight was it all happened so fast, they were caught off guard, and nail wasn't going to leave the elder.
Also, Frieza's massacre probably taught them to respond better.
As for how strong this guy is, he has to be fairly strong, or else they wouldn't expect him to have a chance. Probably not Kamicolo level, as it was heavily implied he was something special, and reuniting with the one you split from gives an extra boost.
Most nameks (surely all the adults) were spawned from the elder, and presumably via egg, not splitting.
22nd Budokai
>POWERFULcha is clearly the strongest Turtle School fighter and the favorite to win the tournament
>he stares at his first opponent and mistakes him for Saitama, as strong as he is, he knows he can't defeat a gag character
>SURPRISEDcha gets unfocused because of this and gets defeated in the biggest upset in the history of sports
>Saitama's lookalike proceeds to break his leg out of spite because he knows Yamcha made a mistake and would have defeated him otherwise
>Bald guy appologizes to Yamcha, because he feared Yamcha's retaliation upon realizing he's just some dude called Tenshinhan
King Piccolo
>CHOSEN-ONEcha is still recovering, but stalemates Tambourine in an allegedly "filler" scene
>goes off to kill Piccolo even with a broken leg, but by the time he arrives PSYCHOPATHIku already murdered him in cold blood
23rd Budokai
>a literal god (Kami) enters the tournament to see how he measures up to ZEUScha
>Kami was so afraid to show his real face before JUPITERcha, he steals a human body
>SHIVAcha sees the kid cheering for his father in the audience
>HORUScha throws the fight to make the kid proud of his dad, but not before impressing the public with his ki control skills
recoome was incapable of fighting back
the fight was over
If some guy takes your lunch money, and you try to beat him up but can't, then 20 years later he's hit by a bus, put into a coma, and you sneak into the hospital to pull the plug, you didn't win the fight.
Well Nail was the last Warrior level guy left, so the fusion might not have worked as well. In the years since there's apparently at least 7 warrior class dudes. So quite possible several times stronger than Freeza was during Namek.
That said even just Nail ~40k + Picollo ~4k (we can't prove he trained while dead) combining was equal to over 1 million (I think 1.2m or 1.4m in some guides). Still that might be less to do with fusing and Nail, than it has to do that Picollo despite being weak was one-half of a Namekian who as a child was apparently significantly stronger than at least form 1 Freeza.
The namekians had no idea what was happening in other villages
The village elders only had a bad feeling, but they didn’t know about frieza until it was too late
manlets, when will they learn?
>you mean
I said what I meant. Goku only ever jobs to Vegeta. This is known. Guy doesn't even visit much less love his wife (quick to escape her). Bulma doesn't do well with being ignored (much less for years as he would do to everyone in canon). Just ask Yamcha. Dying is no excuse. You better be the shit to pull a stunt like that. He's just shit, so it didn't fly.
>discount Goku
>better person all-round
>always defeats him
What did you mean by this?
>I said what I meant. Goku only ever jobs to Vegeta. This is known. Guy doesn't even visit much less love his wife (quick to escape her). Bulma doesn't do well with being ignored (much less for years as he would do to everyone in canon). Just ask Yamcha. Dying is no excuse. You better be the shit to pull a stunt like that. He's just shit, so it didn't fly.
but she's okay with being alone when she's pregnant with Trunks? okay
>all these shipper niggers
Eat shit and enjoy your rape (for life).
Champa's hips
>worse appearance and loss of will
>poised for 3-0 with bulge at the ready
>manlet
lol
I know an MC who doesn't make the list.
And for Vegeta, that's Goku.
>but she's okay with being alone when she's pregnant with Trunks? okay
women change a lot when they get past 30
Bulma getting far less demanding and settling for discount Goku make a lot of sense
>doesn't count as a win
Sure it does. Goku got the KO. Vegeta got the kill. Defeating a foe (even under these circumstances) is a win. You don't have to like it. Just accept reality. Not that it changes the original matter. Vegeta did lose to Recoome. Vegeta just sprang back for 1-1. Stole on Burter for 1-0. Just straight beat Jeice for 1-0. Ginyu Goku ended up losing to team effort (TKO for 1-0). The vassal among vassal's did well to protect his Prince's body so that he may produce an heir to the royal family with the childhood friend and main heroine (the greatest honor of the Carrot's life, perhaps).
>Goku only ever jobs to Vegeta
..and Tao Pai Pai, King Piccolo, Raditz, Android 19, Cell, Buu, Beerus, Freeza, Fused Zamasu, Toppo, Jiren, Broly, and Moro, but keep thinking Vegeta is anything but a sidekick with his one legitimate victory over someone who proceeded to surpass him forevermore
Did you people forget Piccolo has been able to grow back his entire body from just a head?
>moments before dying in one hit against Gohan
And then he fed her to a bug. What an asshole he is. Couldn't just kill the guy and slap her around to make himself feel better. Still, it was pretty fun how it all played out. Vegeta had Cell giving up on the fight only to lose the rematch (1-1), but used Gohan to get to 2-1. Well played. No consequences for his foolishness. Dead (future) son? No problem the magic wishing orbs can't fix.
Dyspo's ass
>manlet coping
>Justass
as shit as this post is, i'd never considered the "hating 18" dynamic in vegeta's cell decision
>feel so rent free
As you should.
>all they have
Did you forget 1-0, lad? Need you be reminded (again)?
>put fight on hold
Carrot really believed it. What a fool. I sure hope the Prince didn't have you going, too. He said the same shit with Ginyu (leaving Goku high and dry). What a rascal.
>basically over
It was just before the finishing blow, yes.
>still 1-0
Up until the Flanderizer landed, yes. Then it was 2-0.
Just so. Be it outside help, trickery, tools or whatever, there are no rules in an actual fight. This isn't some babby tournament like the Budokai where you can fall out of bounds or lose by DQ for killing some weakling. They should have learned this long ago when it was laid out for the freak frog.
This mindset is that of a scrub that devalues the victories of others to lessen their feeling of defeat. The same people who cry about Oozaru (like it mattered), SS3 (coulda, shoulda, woulda, etc.), Majin (while forgetting the dead body, SKW, etc.) and so on.
Exactly
>we can't prove he trained while dead
the manga specifically shows him at Kai's preparing to train. Even just being on that planet, with the enhanced gravity. for the 5 or 6 days would have some effect. They also specifically requested tougher training than Goku had.
It's entirely possible Piccolo could double or even triple his power level in that time frame.
But I think the biggest thing that caused the power boost was the way nameks merge. Nail doesn't physically combine with Piccolo, he converts himself into energy.
It's basically on par with self destruction, just redirected.
When Tenshinhan tapped into his life energy to hold off cell, he went way above his normal limit.
Imagine if that was his regular limit. That's what the boost does.
I'm betting a regular warrior wouldn't boost by nearly as much as Nail did, but I doubt nameks spent the last 20 years with their thumbs up their asses. They probably trained just in case.
So I'd bet the final warrior was something comparable to the initial kamicolo power level.
Don't forget, Piccolo only had the two fights at that level. He then went into the RoSaT and got stronger.
Reminder that Cell is getting tired of receiving his daily dose.
well if it is B. then Piccolo becomes even stronger and matches up with goku and vegeta to finally be useful again and I am all for it.
dont know him dont care
>fan manga's ONE JOB is to be better than toyotaro
>it's worse than toyotaro
jesus just make a dragonball final fantasy already
no, unoriginal weeb trash
seems like the people predicting piccolo will fuse with piccolo are right
kind of wish Wis flew on his staff like that more often
I thought you were talking about Bulma, but the same is true for Vegeta now that I think about it since Toyotaro is shit at art and he has way less will than in Z.
Only Ozaru counts as a win anyway.
DBM is fucking stupid. it omits ss4 but allows movie villians.
>didn't do it to win
His intentions, thoughts, feelings, etc. don't mean anything to the objective reality. He knocked Goku out. He played him to get his defenses down and executed him with impunity. Just be grateful he wasn't erased from existence. Such a merciful Prince to spare his foolish vassal.
>has more pride
Irrelevant, but humoring this, AT is as stupid as you to have changed the character to think like this. He was perfectly happy being underhanded on Namek. As before, it doesn't matter at all these subjective concerns you raise. Objectively, Goku got left eating dirt. There's no talking your way out of it.
Who was left standing? Not Goku. Thought it was over? It would be shortly after he was made to believe this.
>he took Vegeta at his word
You're as gullible as the circus clown. Bet you didn't even see that guy behind you.
>purposes
It doesn't matter even slightly. Goku got put out. That's a KO (loss for him).
>isn't a win either
Goku got KO'd by it.
>they weren't fighting
Real fights don't require formalities like all parties knowing they are in combat, fool.
>backwards
You're the one who ends up dead with 'honor' (that belongs to the victors who can say anything they like about the vanquished since they won't be telling their side of the story from Hell).
>fight was over
This ain't a tournament. Vegeta seized on the opening to kill someone and he did. He defeated them. It can't be any simpler.
>you didn't win the fight
No, you won the rematch (1-1). Your scenario is retarded (like you). Opportunistic victory is still victory. Had Recoome been a corpse, destroying the body wouldn't really count for much. But taking his life? That certainly works. Catching enemies off guard or otherwise unable to fight back properly is just good tactics. Making things fair is shit tactics for fuck-ups.
NOTE: Imagine typing the shit you did. Of course pulling the plug won't change the past.
dbm jealous fags at it again I see.
GT is stupid.
>desperate
We're not the side with the losing record as the MC against his rival. That's Goku and the fags that still cling to him even so ruined as he has become throughout the years.
>Gohan was KO'd by Vegeta who was still able to retreat after beating most of his foes
Were it not for Krillin getting himself together, Vegeta would have made it out having beaten all of them (just not achieving his ends, which is another matter). Lucky Chestnut was getting freebies from AT even before 18.
>This ain't a tournament. Vegeta seized on the opening to kill someone and he did. He defeated them. It can't be any simpler.
He didn't defeat him, he just killed him.
Poisoning someone isn't winning a fight.
Look, if you want to say Vegeta's kill count is high, go for it.
If you want to talk about fights he won, you can't include recoom, or guldo, or burter. Just Jeice.
What does dbm have to do with my post?
why did vegetacucks claims that vegeta knocking out Goku when he said he postponed a fight as win but absolutely assblasted when Moro pummels him to the ground, even calling it a technical win for Vegeta because moro doesnt fight fair?
>Such a merciful Prince to spare his foolish vassal.
ok not here for your argument but here me out.
A dragon quest style side anime is made from the current dragonball super characters.
your heroes are Prince Vegeta, Goku the Vassal who is a Hassle, Piccolo the wise sage, and Majin Buu the magician with a food mission; go on a quest to stop the evil Goat Wizard Moro from stealing Princess Bulma's life source. Along the way another villian the warlock frieza is trying to take control of the kingdom.
Prince Vegetas DragonQuest in stores never.
Because it's a fucking meme and Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta since Namek so they need something.
>killed Goku
True. He team killed him while Goku allowed for it to happen as part of the plan to defeat Raditz. I wonder if that can be considered a win against Goku for him, after all. Hard to say. Wasn't like he turned on him, but then you don't need to announce intentions (nor do they especially matter). While he did get the kill, he only ever lost in their fight (all one of them).
>appeals to meme
Yes, yes. The dickless replaced rival's fan's cold comfort. I'm sure the slug man would be gay for the Prince if he had the parts for it. Given the chance, I just know he'd job like crazy to put him over, too. Were circumstances different (like Vegeta being a shit parent as with Goku), perhaps the Pickle could have babysat for Bulma like he does for Chi-Chi (and now Videl). A fine vassal he would make.
Because they're pathetic and insecure.
none the less, the form ss4 is as much canon as bojack and all the other movie rejects. Even those fags at dbm made their own made up characters so they themselves can fuck right off.
meh
While it was 'to the death', that doesn't particularly matter. This isn't a tournament where failing to meet this condition makes defeat by TKO or KO not count.
>does better than the real Goku
Sad.
That's a job for Billy Cat Man.
>can't prove he trained while dead
You having a fucking laugh? While King Kai didn't teach him any techniques, we do know he went there and trained. Did you not read?
>loves small men
Aggressive flirting. Too bad, he is taken by the main girl.
Just... read the FAQ.
>full quote
For what reason?
>she's okay
Yeah, he's the shit. Didn't read the quote you bothered to highlight completely? Jests aside, he got better by series end (as we all know, easily surpassing the likes of Goku low bar though that may be).
>settling for a guy who always beats up the MC
Seems she got even more picky. Wasn't good enough to have one of the strongest fighters in the world (who jobs even to glorified house plants). No, she needed the warrior race's royalty to get her good and wet with a sound beating of her retarded former body guard.
When will they learn
also official thread theme
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As is Goku.
>and 'various'
Misunderstanding the wording (deliberately). It isn't saying he jobs only to Vegeta. Just that he only ever jobs to him. You picking up what I'm putting down, sport?
NOTE: I'm especially fond of him jobbing to Blue repeatedly.
>legit
Honorable? Not cheap? Don't be a scrub. A win is a win. Write that down on your hand if you don't trust your head. It isn't like you're brain damaged like Goku, eh?
>always surpass forevermore
In what regard? Strength? Surely not. Vegeta has passed him time and again. This is known (and will continue to be part of the back and forth). Know what is constant? The streak. 3-0, when? Just wish Vegeta would take it a little easier on him. Any more concussions and Goku might really become a vegetable.
I'm fucking angry.
I just got to the scene where all the villians in hell are watching the fight between Goku and boo. Why the fuck is Raditz not in this scene, his own fucking brother couldn't show up to make some sort of comment or at least be in the fucking background.
For that matter why can't they make up their fucking minds on how hell works, they shouldn't even have bodies according to things that were eariler established.
That's Goku's "job".
>Yamcha defeating Recoome
Anime filler never made sense.
Raditz was killed when Piccolo was still considered a demon. Which means he was stuck in limbo.
Goku received an education from Roshi, he knows damm well what sex is and Chichi would have just had to ask.
>never considered
It is certainly a secondary concern. He was, of course, just looking to test his power out against a stronger foe. It backfired, only for Cell to give him another chance (gets himself slapped only to capitalize on it to share in the victory rather than just be a spectator).
NOTE: Ever notice how Galick Gun is stronger than Kamehameha?
Successful baseballer
convinced the bank to give him a loan on a very expensive plane.
Poor guy.
It is kinda plump compared to the rest of him
>double or triple in that time frame
I should fucking hope he got that little. Goku was ~600 and came out at ~8K. Starting at a higher point, he wouldn't be as taxed by the gravity, but one should like to think he got some returns (enough that he wasn't weaker than unlocked Krillin pre-fusion).
>fusion
I wouldn't even bother attempting to make sense of the multiplier it had to have had. AT certainly wasn't thinking beyond having him just strong enough for the next form of Frieza.
>final warrior at Kamicolo level
Maybe. Maybe not. No real way to know.
>and got stronger
To some degree, sure. Often you'll hear people making wild speculation about how much he made. AT had written him off by this point.
>only Oozaru counts
Always amusing to see which sort of squirming I'll be treated with during these reminders. As before, if I jump you for KO, you lose. If we're fighting and suddenly it is 'called off' only for me to sucker punch you (again). You lose. If I pull out a gun and shoot you. You lose. If someone else shoots you, you lose (presuming you don't fight your way out of it, of course). If I take PCP and fight like a mad man to beat you, you lose. These are not play fights with rules. It is war. It isn't even necessary for you to know you're a combatant. Don't like Vegeta feeding Goku another helping of dirt? Take it up with Toriyama. I doubt he even remembers making the rival 2-0 over the MC (almost certainly all an accident). See: NOTE: Vegeta is fairly concise on the matter. Of course, even if he 'agrees', deception is just another tool.
see
No he wasn't, they specifically said that Kami suspected that Piccolo was different than his namesake because Radditz went to the afterlife and wasn't stuck in limbo.
He got sent to hell.
aah, that's better
>he just killed him
Don't get much more defeated that that.
>poisoning someone isn't winning a fight
It sure as fuck is if they lose because of it.
>can't include
I just did. The vassal set two up and 'Geeter knocked them down (into Hell). He took Guldo by surprise while he foolishly thought Vegeta wouldn't seize on his distraction. The Ginyu Force are the retards that are just gawking (and taking turns) here. It isn't until later AT infects Vegeta with this same mentality.
They were already KO'd? Neat. All the easier to kill, which is a win over them. That's about as hard an L as you can take. Not even able to defend yourself. That you're still carrying on about this makes it clear you're a scrub that clings to honor codes (that won't win the day). You keep doing that. See where it gets you. Vegeta? He's going to keep winning (like when he dropped the hammer on Carrot's cranium).
well yeah, but Goku had months to train, and Piccolo had a bit less than a week.
Not counting, of course, any improvement made by crossing snake way (which took him a month, compared to goku taking several months to start, and a day to end)
Oh shit. I guess Toriyama forgot about Raditz then.
>ESL
A fine start.
>technical win
I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
>believing Vegeta's lies
Your shoe laces are untied, friend.
>Don't get much more defeated that that.
sure you do
it's called actually defeating them
when I say "you can't" I mean "it's not a logical argument to do so"
Vegeta didn't fight recoom twice.
He fought him once
then, sometime later, killed him while he was unconscious.
Totally separate, and not a win.
Like I said before, you can claim he killed plenty, but you can't say all kills are fights.
He didn't fight thousands of fans at the tournament in buu saga.
No, that scene is filler
"What on Earth are you mumbling about?" - Spots
>it's a meme
Goku's fight record is a meme (as with Kamehameha not being recognized as shit).
>always stronger since Namek
>instantly surpassed
You what?
>need something
Vegeta being undefeated against the MC is a Hell of a 'something' as the rival. That along with getting the main girl (shitting all over shipper delusions).
doesnt fucking matter they pick and chose what they think is canon to their little fan fic and even made up their own garbage.
It's always good for a nice, athletic build.
Gokufags sure are. How do they live with a 'copy genius' who still uses fucking Kamehameha (an entry level move as noted by Tien while Roshi admitted it was dog piss that even Dodonpa surpasses)? That shit is a mere 2.22x modifier. Galick Gun is nearly 3x (and Vegeta replaced it repeatedly while making better moves).
a game where there is a dragonquest dragonball cross over where Goku Piccolo Vegeta and Buu go on a Dragonquest to save Bulma from the Evil Wizard Moro and contend with the evil Conqueror Warlock Frieza.
>Goku's fight record is a meme (as with Kamehameha not being recognized as shit).
That doesn't make the Vegeta's any less of one.
>>instantly surpassed
>for less than a day before an even bigger gap forms
>being undefeated against the MC
And you have to stretch this weak argument just to convince a few anons over the internet and feed your obsession when it isn't even widely believed or accepted.
>getting the main girl
Even Krillin did better.
Amusing, however: See: While true that AT didn't write the visit, it is true Raditz was sent there (and Toei forgot him).
I see that this is the thread for cute Dyspos
Why are you wasting my time with ?
>it is about power
It is about winning. The objective score is what is in question. Not objectives, not intentions or anything else. We are in the business of looking at the results. Those are 2-0. Vegeta being undefeated against Goku.
>what good is it
Good enough for plus one. You dig?
It isn't like he's the MC (or that the MC did any better). Speaking of which, how's that fellow holding up against his rival?
That's any Dyspo
Except the donkey one
Beautiful
Damn straight
>The objective score is what is in question
>We are in the business of looking at the results.
And those results aren't reliable, most if not all fighting game competitions for example are fought in multiple rounds to show a clear winner. Likewise, Goku would've fucked Vegeta in the ass if given multiple rounds here.
Tardku probably thinks responsibility is a kind of food
>Dragon Ball threads on Yea Forums
Gohan is the most talked about
>Fate threads on Yea Forums
Astolfo is the most talked about
>bit less than a week
That right? And just the same, AT didn't bother giving us anything to work with. Keeping up with all that numbers stuff really wasn't for him.
>this spacing
You having a laugh?
>it's called being a scrub
Yeah, I'd gone over that earlier (more than once, if I'm not mistaken). There are these people with notions of honor, fairness and so on that think their ideals apply to objective reality. You can't do this, it isn't legit if you do that and so on. Protecting their own ego from defeat while downplaying the accomplishments of others. Too pathetic to make proper counters, do their homework (or put in work at all) and so on. Goku got outplayed. Now his fans play themselves covering for him (when he doesn't even care about failing to keep his promise).
>not logical
Your emotions and values are clouding your judgement (the stance you give is itself illogical).
>killed him while unconscious in a non-declared fight
It doesn't matter. This isn't a difficult concept, friend. He doesn't need a referee to raise his hand, make them touch gloves or any of that bullshit. He can murder the man in his sleep (induced from a beating by the vassal) and it is enough for 1-1. It might not be to your liking (I'm sure future Vegeta wouldn't be satisfied, but this Vegeta knew better than to let these retarded values fuck with his objectives). Again, this is not a tournament operating under rules like what you hold dear.
>not all kills are fights
Not all wins are fights, either. Not all fights are "fights". You getting it, yet? Introspect on it.
>thousands
He killed exactly 300 (apparently).
>they added new characters in their little fan fic
That's... that's what a fan fic is usually comprised of. There's no limitations to what fan fiction can and cannot have - DBM is just a fan fic made by snail munchers.
I wish he were real
>toei's men are greedy fucks and there's no way they aren't making another anime to milk more money someday
>so shitdom says he has sources for it and every few months says "it's being announced now guys!"
>gets BTFO every time
>deflects to "w-well they are hiding it ha ha please trust me"
>someday the new anime will be announced
>"s-see? I told you I was right!"
Yes, they love cherry-picking. They even go with the dub understanding of Broly's LSS form (while adding some shit of their own). Not all their ideas are bad, but plenty of the OC is right up there with GT, Super, etc. Total trash.
Right you are. This while they actually misunderstand some aspects of canon (not just choosing to take liberties, but really believing some of their bullshit).
I'm unsure why you wish to share this RPG talk with me.
>being undefeated against the MC isn't good enough as the rival
Whatever you say, fella. It isn't like you're entirely wrong. Goku is pretty shit, right? What compels people to be his fan? Have any guesses? Just shit taste?
>even bigger gap
Ah, yes. Vegeta going into RoSaT, first. Would have been pretty rude to just murder Goku there and then (already had him beat, but this was just absurd given Goku wouldn't even dare fight the guy Vegeta was trampling).
>weak argument
>argument
It is a simple statement of fact. A reminder, even.
>just to teach a few anons the truth
A noble cause, truly. Truth should be known, would you not agree? As with Galick Gun being stronger than Kamehameha. Can you believe there can be any doubts or confusion concerning the matter? I mean, really?
>isn't widely believed or accepted
Neat appeals. This said, all the more reason to vigorously continue my work.
>even Krillin did better
And Vegeta did better (than Goku). While 18 is best, Bulma is 'main' (the rich genius able to give him all he desires, too). The primary ship for Goku (sank by AT himself). Vegeta just swoops in to take it with his usual swagger. Shame about Tien not getting Launch (AT forgot her). He didn't necessarily want her, but he would have bested Goku in this regard had he just accepted her feelings. Gohan surpassed his father not just in strength, but in his wife. Hard to do worse than Chi-Chi.
>results aren't reliable
They don't need to be. They just 'are'. This isn't about what could/might be. It is about what was/is.
>clear winner
Let's have a look.
>and Toei forgot him
maybe not, as the lesser evil souls get reincarnated.
By the time the buu saga happened, 12 years after Radditz died, radditz was likely reborn.
Who knows, maybe he's Goten now
Based chad prince dominating that peasant
hahaha what the fuck is up with that jacket/vest thing???
>could be reborn
Allowing for Super, yes. That concept seems to be on the table.
Would you expect any less?
>Vegecucks
Don't make him call his vassals to beat you up.
OH NO NO NO NO
my point is that they made excuses before about Gt isnt canon then go on using non canon shit. They are just asshole hypocrites in the end so fuck them.
No worries, seems like the help have it covered. In the end, Vegeta's team won.
>Vegeta sucks an old wizard's cock to get a power buff
>After the buff his SS2 is pretty much even with Goku's SS2
>Goku feels so bad for Vegeta's obvious obsession and desperation with him that he's afraid to tell Vegeta about SS3 because it may cause him to kill himself
>Goku doesn't use SS3 so the fight is a tie
>Fight gets postponed
>Vegeta cheapshots Goku from behind after literally telling him the fight was over
>Vegetards unironically chalk this one up as a win
How embarrassing.
Android 17 won, Vegeta got raped like the bitch he is. Hilarious how the Vegeniggers want to steal other people's victories because they lack their own.
T W O O H
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But CHADren has more than just 2 victories over Vegecuck?
>Jobgeta needed a buff just to be even with Goku's SS2
Never gets old
No one cares about that irrelevant alien
Cope
>WAH GRAMMAR!!!
okay definitely relevant to our topic
>I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
so you concede, what's next? gimmick shit doesnt apply?
>believing in vegeta's lies
well your balls just fell off, buddy
>Vegeta cons a wizard
>Goku gets forced into the rematch he promised Krillin would be won
>Goku wishes AT made-up SS3 sooner, but has to settle for 'holding back'
>gets told to 'look over there' and jobs to Cui strats
Vegeta made fun of the guy for trying it on him (works like a charm on an idiot like Goku, of course).
>may cause him to kill himself
Goku? I suppose technically it would be accurate. He uses up all his life force and Baba takes him back to Other World.
>fight is a tie because 'holding back'
If only it worked that way. Mind you, I'll not spare your pride. I say Goku is such a fuck-up he would job to SS3 and lose anyway. What do you say to this?
>gets postponed
Look behind you, it is Master Frieza!
>cheapshots
To think that this worked. What a complete tit Goku is. Clearly didn't learn from the Ginyu incident. Also, 'cheapshots' are legit. Again, you lot are just scrubs. Not fair? More is the pity. Life isn't either.
>chalk up a win as a win
Just calling it like it is (objectively).
>embarrassing
To always lose to one's rival? Even Naruto did better.
>17 won
He was certainly the last one standing. Frieza and Goku (the vassals) heeded their master's command (taking out Jiren). The toaster did good in just staying hidden.
>steal other's victories
Just sharing in it (part of a team, so it is even more appropriate).
>lack their own
Do I need to remind you of a certain undefeated streak against the MC? Seems another already has:
Cope harder
>2 victories
He certainly would be racking up wins outside a tournament (where winning over others is measured in ring-outs). Alas, only the one per foe is possible. Not a problem. The help were on it.
>definitely relevant
Always. Effective communication is of paramount importance (consider your surroundings).
>concede
You seem to be under the impression the noted claim has any association with myself (or that it is even likely a genuine statement). As for the reminder, the good doctor is green with envy. In the end, only one rival can always beat Goku (I suppose Pickle would just be happy to have the one).
>balls
You would need them to earnestly suggest retarded 'honor codes' have an bearing on reality.
Nay, thou. That's for Goku's fans.
Piccolo said that Vegeta would also be reborn and he goes pretty far beyond lesser evil.
Where's the Yamcha!Bulma son who's much weaker but has to fight a thousand times as hard and comes out on top anyway?
DBS biggest mistake is Tournaments with "no killing allowed" rule.
There's no tension as if because we have plenty of Shenrons + Angels by now, so why are they so afraid to make death tournaments?
And erasure was nowhere as impactful as a regular death would.
incorrect
Because no blood in the anime
The whole battle royale tournament was a massive mistake right from the concept phase. It might have sounded good on paper, but executing it in both manga and anime was a massive mistake and it would have been a disappointment even if the most skilled in the industry worked on it.
it really is the jobverse
>Cabba
Jobs to Vegeta, Frieza
>Kale
Jobs to Jiren
>Caulifla
Jobs to goku
>Kefla
Jobs to goku/gohan
>Magetta
Jobs to Vegeta twice
>Botamo
Jobs to goku/gohan
>Dr.Rota
Jobs to Harmira (the sniper), Vegeta
>Frost
Jobs to Vegeta, Roshi, Frieza, AND Zeno
>Saonel and Pirina
Job to Piccolo and Gohan
>Hit
Jobs to Goku, Dyspo AND Jiren
So since Vegeta has never killed Goku, he's never beaten goku?
>Always. Effective communication is of paramount importance (consider your surroundings).
oh sorry what? i thought i was talking to an infant since the question of "why did vegeta had a technical win?" still goes unanswered
>inb4 I-I DON'T KNOW ITS UNIRONIC I SWEAR!
>I-I SWEAR I'M NOT THE SAME AS OTHER VEGETAKEKS
so you are running away, interesting
>HE POSTED PICKLES, LET'S SHIT ON THE DOC
uh huh, lemme post something else then, come up with more irrelevant stuff about pic mkay?
>Retarded 'honor codes' have an bearing on reality
uh huh, so you prefer cowardice? and they say saiyans are the true warrior race? also 'DB thread reality' shows that it was an underserved win ESL-kun
Jesus christ this thread is autistic
dibs on left one
Ignore his foolishness. You know better, but still: There is no such special condition for defeat at work.
>posts a glorified fruit mortal
I can do it, too.
>posts worse on purpose to spite his benefactor
Come now. Also, you seem upset about something. I should like to think my good intentions didn't have some negative effect on you.
>answer this question that wasn't for you
How absurd.
>shit on the doc
Of course. Falseflaggers and uppity true believers both need checking (can't just let them run wild as even the beloved janitors do). Balance requires it.
>prefer cowardice
You say this, but don't seem to realize you're quite literally coping. It is objective reality I prefer. Indeed, recognizing that there are no rules. What you champion is the whining of losers. Excuse making. Being a scrub.
>they say
They can say whatever they like (and be as wrong as they like). In-universe and out. It doesn't change the score.
>still making appeals
Neat. As before, everyone can agree with you and still be wrong (absolutely). It just doesn't work how you want it to. Vegeta, Goku and even AT can say that isn't what the takeaway is from the second fight (and all be wrong). Yes, even the author can be wrong (as he has been many times about details big and small). He can write whatever he likes, but he can't change the objective. We were shown Goku being knocked out. That's his loss. Plain and simple. Unless he retcons that from having happened, there is no escaping 2-0.
>ESL
That would be what your performance indicates, but I'd be charitable enough to suggest you're just one among the many lazy shits that don't put proper effort into presentation (and make weak excuses for it). You merely look like you can barely speak English. I'm sure you're almost competent when you try, but just won't (as you'll feel like you lost for putting in the minimum effort). Feel free to prove me wrong if you're quite able.
Just as his master commanded. A good dog, that Carrot.
>I should like to think my good intentions didn't have some negative effect on you.
still evading? i don't need some humble deeds, just explain why did vegeta gets a technical win while goku doesn't? or is that question too hard for you?
>answer this question that wasn't for you
>How absurd.
so you can't? why?
>Of course. Falseflaggers and uppity true believers both need checking
uh huh, another one then, here's the goat
>You say this, but don't seem to realize you're quite literally coping. It is objective reality I prefer. Indeed, recognizing that there are no rules. What you champion is the whining of losers. Excuse making. Being a scrub.
what are you even writing ESL-kun?
>They can say whatever they like (and be as wrong as they like). In-universe and out. It doesn't change the score.
sorry even Vegeta? so vegeta is wrong now? okay so we're one stop closer
>Neat. As before, everyone can agree with you and still be wrong (absolutely). It just doesn't work how you want it to. Vegeta, Goku and even AT can say that isn't what the takeaway is from the second fight (and all be wrong). Yes, even the author can be wrong
okay, so basically your headcanon>AT headcanon got it, no need to write a poem just to close down your stupid claims
>That would be what your performance indicates, but I'd be charitable enough to suggest you're just one among the many lazy shits that don't put proper effort into presentation (and make weak excuses for it). You merely look like you can barely speak English. I'm sure you're almost competent when you try, but just won't (as you'll feel like you lost for putting in the minimum effort). Feel free to prove me wrong if you're quite able.
sorry boy, even a 12 year old kid can differentiate between a/an, unlike you, also do you think writing a wall of text of random stuff is going to help you?
>evading
Are you? You seem to wish to escape Vegeta being undefeated against Goku (in favor of pushing talk of something unrelated to me).
>technical win
Ain't nothing technical about Vegeta's 2-0.
>the goat
Neat, for the time being he too is undefeated against Goku.
>doesn't understand English
>calls another ESL
But why?
>even Vegeta
Yes. As I very specifically noted (more than once). And Goku. And AT.
>headcanon
It isn't a matter of feelings, thoughts, etc. It is what AT made. If he misremembers, misinterprets, etc. his own work (as he often does), that's on him. He starts prattling on about SS3 being SS2, you had best correct his sorry ass (so he can double down and make sure these forms disappear out of his own embarrassment).
He wants to have Vegeta say (in canon, not just some silly interview or in garbage like Super) he hasn't ever beaten Goku. He's welcome to do it. He'll be wrong until he actually changes the bits where we see Vegeta winning. Perhaps he feels like the scrubs (that 2-0 was illegitimate). Neat. He can feel however he likes and get everyone in-universe to go along with it. Objectively, that isn't what happened (and if he wants it to be, he needs to do what only he can and change it).
NOTE: Even 'Word of God' can be wrong. He just needs to put in the effort to change what is (to get around this). AT is lazy, so that isn't going to happen. I'm sure he really thinks he depicted even the first fight with Vegeta losing (and that his supposed speed-reading to refresh himself didn't help).
>poem
>considers less than a single post's character limit with breaks a 'wall'
How easily you're impressed by so little. If you applied yourself with proper punctuation and capitalization, I'm sure you can manage this little. However, it seems you prefer concession on the matter. Speaking of which, have you opted out of taking on Vegeta's undefeated streak against Goku? How about Galick Gun being stronger than Kamehameha?
2-0 BABY!!!
So... apparently Android 17 is even more of a madlad in the Super manga than he is in the anime.
In one of the Extra Chapters of the Super manga, it implies that like their dear ol' Dad, all seven Cell Juniors managed to regenerate from the Nuclei in their heads, and in the intervening years between the end of the Cell Saga's conclusion and the end of the Universe survival saga, Android 17 finds, manages to tame, and reform all seven Cell Juniors, and it worked so goddamn well, they were revived along with the rest of the "Good People" of Earth after the defeat of Kid Buu, otherwise they would not have been on Monster Island.
The kicker is, when 17 leaves for the Tournament of Power, and leaves Goten, Trunks, and Marron in charge of protecting the island, he remembers that he forgot to tell them about the Cell Juniors, but brushes it off. So, Goten, Trunks, and Marron are accosted by the Cell Juniors, and it's not until one of them notices that they are wearing Ranger uniforms that they deduce that Goten and Trunks work for 17 and stop attacking them. Furthermore, they actually fucking APOLOGIZE for attacking them before they leave.
Android 17 is the maddest of madlads, and the daddest of dads, adopting seven little hellions potentially as strong as Perfect Cell was after the mother of all Zenkai Boosts, and TAUGHT THEM SOME FUCKING MANNERS.
>Are you? You seem to wish to escape Vegeta being undefeated against Goku (in favor of pushing talk of something unrelated to me).
Are you a vegetafag? Than that's that, you are equally responsible just like the others, undefeated or not its 1-0 not 2-0 there's no need to be insecure about getting only 1 win
>ain't nothing technical
Vegeta admits Goku didnt fight all out therefore its goku's win, but i'm not even going to ask that, just explain why is KOing a postponed fight a win? Just like how moro didnt fight a hand to hand combat therefore its vegeta's win
>But why?
>What you champion is the whining of losers.
Nobody talks like this alright? What is "what you champion" even means? Try proof reading before copypasting a dictionary
>Excuse making. Being a scrub.
Commas exist you know
>have an bearing on reality
embarassing
>Yes. As I very specifically noted (more than once). And Goku. And AT.
tell me why you are more credible than AT then?
>(paragraph ranting about Toriyama)
tell me, do you write the story? Are you even working on it? Nope, you're just sitting down on your PC typing random rants about whatever this is
>How easily you're impressed by so little. If you applied yourself with proper punctuation and capitalization, I'm sure you can manage this little. However, it seems you prefer concession on the matter. Speaking of which, have you opted out of taking on Vegeta's undefeated streak against Goku? How about Galick Gun being stronger than Kamehameha?
Yeah, he blasted Vegeta off with Kaioken kamehameha, Vegeta and Trunks requires 2 galick gun to push back Zamasu while goku only needs a solo kame, what about it? And ignoring last post won't help you ESL-kun
Same way all SON family faggots learn.
>double address
Dimwit, indeed.
>responsible for others
Nope. Just me, baby. Just me. So, how about it? Have you accepted Bejita-sama as your lord and savior (undefeated against Goku) as the MC has?
>not 2-0
>still holding to the scrub's mindset
Your unwritten rules are unimportant. Same as people who get cross about Oozaru in 1-0. Or the rematch featuring Majin. This isn't one of Goku's pretend fighting play dates.
>Vegeta says
We've been over this matter of the subjective. He can say, feel, think and so on whatever he likes. It changes nothing of what happened.
>explain the thing you've explained already
You going to read properly this time, sport? He lied to get his guard down (he had no intention of joining up to fight Buu). Goku fell for it. Vegeta knocked him out. KO. Simple as that. Your kind struggle with deception, subversion and the like. I understand. It isn't quite to your liking (not as straight forward and honest and slugging it out like sub-humans). I'm not unfamiliar with the desire to dress it up nicely with talk of how manly it is (to do something stupid).
>just like 'thing unrelated to me'
Not interested in the (likely falseflag playing with the more recent joke about 'technical wins') scrub stance you keep jabbering on about. That's more your speed (making excuses for loses).
>nobody talks like this
Clearly you're wrong (again). Careful with the use of absolutes. Only takes one exception to bring them down.
You mad?
>This post is brought to you by the letter A.
>A
Apologize?
>commas exist
As does the period (amusingly, you remember to capitalize this time). This doesn't factor with the highlighted (unless you wanted to make the fragments into a run-on). This is typing as one speaks (that thing you seem to not want to believe).
>more credible than AT
I already noted why most are more credible than AT. Consider not speed-reading (like he did his own content *if even that is true*). He doesn't know the material even as well as the average fan. As the author, he can make-up all the shit he likes. However, this doesn't give a pass when saying things that are clearly incorrect.
Do I really need to repeat myself (again)? AT drew a clear outcome (both times). Even if he wants to have every in-universe character say he lost (and narrate it himself), it doesn't make it so (unless that is what is depicted). He has the power to change 2-0 to 1-1, but won't ever do that (and probably doesn't realize he would have to).
NOTE: You forgot the comma.
>didn't read
I see you're taking the Goku approach to life. As before, did you notice your shoes are untied?
>doesn't understand how an author can be wrong about their own material
Were I to believe you were serious, I'd think you were an actual spic (not just in the meme sense of the term). Ultimately, I have to humor even one being intellectually dishonest for the sake of the youth (so that they may learn even from your nonsense played for laughs).
>cites non-canon
Neat. As for canon, KKx3 made Goku stronger than Vegeta. Their similar beams clash, but merely tie. Vegeta's beam is (therefore) the superior move (greater modifier). Did you wish to get into the numbers?
>Double dimwit indeed
Oops i'll concede on that one
>Nope. Just me, baby. Just me. So, how about it? Have you accepted Bejita-sama as your lord and savior (undefeated against Goku) as the MC has?
Then justify it?
>Your unwritten rules are unimportant. Same as people who get cross about Oozaru in 1-0. Or the rematch featuring Majin. This isn't one of Goku's pretend fighting play dates.
And? Just because you stab a guy in the back doesn't mean you'll automatically win, it just makes you a coward
>We've been over this matter of the subjective. He can say, feel, think and so on whatever he likes. It changes nothing of what happened.
Yeah, he sucker punched Goku, nobody wins?
>You going to read properly this time, sport? He lied to get his guard down (he had no intention of joining up to fight Buu). Goku fell for it. Vegeta knocked him out. KO. Simple as that.
And how is that a win? If the win is a lie, doesn't that simply means there's no win?
>Not interested in the (likely falseflag playing with the more recent joke about 'technical wins') scrub stance you keep jabbering on about. That's more your speed (making excuses for loses).
Are you really a newfag? The vegetafags are getting really uppity because Moro fucks him over without the transformation, if you're a newfags then i'll let this one slide, since you won't understand what happened anyway
>Clearly you're wrong (again). Careful with the use of absolutes. Only takes one exception to bring them down.
Okay, try using that on a conversation, or let me ease it for you, find 3 conversation that uses this
Still you can’t deny that Jiren’s losing was due to a very unconvincing plot
>GT is stupid.
How can GT be stupid?
>As does the period (amusingly, you remember to capitalize this time). This doesn't factor with the highlighted (unless you wanted to make the fragments into a run-on). This is typing as one speaks (that thing you seem to not want to believe).
Thanks for enlightening me? I guess, any advice about using a or an?
>(some more 'Toriyama doesn't give a shit')
And do you think something will become right if you give in all your love and headcanon? Stop joking. Oops i'll concede about the comma then
>Goku's approach to life
What about it? There's nothing wrong with being trusting sometimes, but for Vegeta? "Oh yeah this guy might actually kill me, but lemme put a sucker punch on my potential partner first" this life approach is either suicidal or bragging shit because of his insecurities
>Were I to believe you were serious, I'd think you were an actual spic (not just in the meme sense of the term). Ultimately, I have to humor even one being intellectually dishonest for the sake of the youth (so that they may learn even from your nonsense played for laughs).
Do you even understand reality? If toriyama wrote it this shit then that's that, hate it? Then go enjoy other shonen, not pushing your headcanons in
>Neat. As for canon, KKx3 made Goku stronger than Vegeta. Their similar beams clash, but merely tie. Vegeta's beam is (therefore) the superior move (greater modifier). Did you wish to get into the numbers?
So NOW you want to talk about technical wins
>concede
That's the Carrot's job (against Vegeta).
>justify someone else's stance that I already disavow on grounds of it being scrub talk like yours
No, you.
>doesn't mean you automatically win
Correct. He could potentially defeat you anyway. However, Goku lost as a result, so that's out.
>it just
Works. It just works. As before, your thinking is that of a small-minded scrub (likely from a 'culture of honor' *something more primitive than dignity*). Why do you not address this? I've called you a scrub, but you say nothing. Not that you reject the label or even (stupidly) embrace it.
>coward
This is strategy shaming for the vanquished. As before, if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics are shit. Vegeta had been falling into that stupid mindset little by little, but this was his great escape (if only for a moment) back to his former glory. Played Goku like a violin and cut his strings. Wonderful performance.
If you can defeat someone just by telling them to turn around, look at their shoes or whatever, that's the way to go. You don't do this and decry those who would, you're a scrub with 'house rules'. I've said repeatedly this is not a tournament. You starting to understand how that applies to the prior comments yet?
>nobody wins
He might not feel like a winner, but the sucker punch very much counts as a win. How many times do I need to explain to you (like you're my woman) that emotions and the like mean nothing to facts. Vegeta tricked Goku and knocked him out. The KO is the win. That's just how it happened. It only went down this way for Buu waking up (distracting Goku). Maybe we should give Buu an extra win against Goku for this, eh? What say you? Of course, I jest.
>how is this a win
The other guy ain't able to fight back. You win. You aware of what a KO is?
>if the win is a lie
That's a different story. If the win came from a lie (deceiving someone), that's plain as day. Of course it counts.
>No u
I know dodging an argument is something that everyone does, but if you idolize Vegeta that much then at least explain it
>Goku lost as a result
Again, that loss is a lie, therefore no loss
>Works. It just works. As before, your thinking is that of a small-minded scrub (likely from a 'culture of honor' *something more primitive than dignity*). Why do you not address this? I've called you a scrub, but you say nothing. Not that you reject the label or even (stupidly) embrace it.
Nothing from cowardice works, don't even try. Call me what you want, if your vocabulary is limited to spamming scrub, neat and stuff then go ahead, repeating an short insult will make it worthless anyway
>(justifying lies as wins)
Again, a lie means everything coming from it isn't true, you can't justify that
Oops repeating *a short insult, sorry bout that kiddo
>are you not in every thread
Are you in every thread? I don't concern myself with things other than giving my reminders. You seem to want to prattle on about some scrub shit (amusing that you don't agree with their house rules, but take it up with those making the claim). This some sort of identitarian faggotry you're getting up to? I don't answer for them (nor they for me). My agenda is clear (and you will learn it).
>Moro
Neat. I'm not interested in the newest villain flavor. My focus remains on the constant (shitty MC).
>try using that in a conversation
I have. I did (to you).
>find three
You're in one of them even now, boy-o.
I don't particularly care how the result got where it did. I'm just taking the piss. Frieza and Goku removed themselves to get Jiren out. 17 played them all. Jerry was a retard who let himself lose.
>thanks
Save it for when I get your out of this scrub mindset. That seems to be your major malfunction.
>if you give in all your love
Consider revision.
>become right
It was always right. AT wrote it. Those that are not anime-only read it. So long as you aren't a retard clinging to silly notions that don't objectively apply, you see Goku's naivety exploited for 2-0.
>faulting his choice
You're welcome to do that. You can even cry about Goku losing. Just know that he did. Like I've said. You don't have to like it. You just need to accept what is. AT wills it.
>if AT wrote Vegeta hammerfisting Goku for 2-0
He did. I've said as much. There is no question. The headcanon is coming from your personal feelings on that avenue to victory. You're projecting. I'm embracing what happened. You're denying it even as you see it (and have it spelled out for you). An obstinate child is what this makes you.
>technical wins
You what? I suppose you want the more detailed version. Goku was ~8K. KKx3 put him at ~24K. Vegeta is 18K. Despite this, Kamehameha was only enough to hold GG back.
My wife is so fucking beautiful
>this fucking thread
I don't know about all that, but Molo is undefeated against Gokek and Jobgeta.
The 33% advantage didn't cut it. Worse, we know from the encounter with Raditz Kamehameha gives a 2.22x modifier. Clearly GG is doing even more work (nearly 3x). It took KKx4's ~32K (77% advantage) to overcome Vegeta (and still do no actual damage beyond the emotional). The attack did more damage to Goku than Vegeta, which is just dandy.
>know about dodging an argument
I see that. You're doing it actively. I already addressed it even while it was no business of mine (yet you are avoiding the matter of your scrub mentality like those supposedly making the claim you seem so interested in).
>the loss is a lie
No, Goku lost to a lie. I went over the difference previously. AT didn't trick you with a fake panel. That's what happened. Goku got clocked from behind while thinking the fight was over. He was wrong. You find this distasteful, so you reject what happened. You're a scrub (like those you seem so intent on discussing with their 'technicalities').
>cowardice doesn't work
What you call cowardice clearly does (and did here).
>call you a scrub
Since you're being one, I will. Thanks for invite, but I don't really need the permission to call it like it is (I recommend you stick to the truth, too).
>insult
It is only an insult in the eye of the beholder, yes? Or do you recognize the fault in what you are? If you truly think you're right in your stance, being noted as a scrub (accurately) shouldn't be a problem.
>will make it worthless
Not so worthless as a scrub's honor as they howl in defeat time and time again (refusing to learn, improve, use all their options, etc.).
>can't justify it
The ends can. I don't need to. Tricking Goku was clearly an effective way to go about beating him quickly. That is evident with the source material (even the adaptation).
Correct. Unlike poor Jiren (who was in a tournament where he only gets the win for ring-out like he got on Vegeta), who ended up losing to Goku (shameful).
Which posts are you planning to reply? Yours or mine? make up your mind
>Are you in every thread? I don't concern myself with things other than giving my reminders. You seem to want to prattle on about some scrub shit (amusing that you don't agree with their house rules, but take it up with those making the claim). This some sort of identitarian faggotry you're getting up to? I don't answer for them (nor they for me). My agenda is clear (and you will learn it).
You know what? I don't give a fuck, either admit you're a newfag or admit that win is a lie
>Neat. I'm not interested in the newest villain flavor. My focus remains on the constant (shitty MC).
Ignoring shit won't make it go away, not everything is so simple
>You're in one of them even now, boy-o.
Great, 2 remaining, come on
>Save it for when I get your out of this scrub mindset. That seems to be your major malfunction
May i give you a suggestion to ease your work? Please explain to me how to use 'a' and 'an'
>Consider revision.
? Answer the question
>(more stuff about justifying a lie)
Sorry, Toriyama wrote the fight being postponed, not a 4D chess resulting in Vegeta's win, a 'lying win' is a 'no win' by default
>You what? I suppose you want the more detailed version. Goku was ~8K. KKx3 put him at ~24K. Vegeta is 18K. Despite this, Kamehameha was only enough to hold GG back.
Details doesn't matter, Vegeta got blown away, Kamehameha wins, if you want to justify this as win then you should admit Goku had SS3 and still technically wins against Majin Vegeta
Gohanfags are pure comedy gold.
>this entire shit thread
What are the chances CHADiccolo fuses with a dying Tsubari and gets a power up rivaling SSB?
>I see that. You're doing it actively. I already addressed it even while it was no business of mine (yet you are avoiding the matter of your scrub mentality like those supposedly making the claim you seem so interested in).
I got nothing to evade from, just admit that a lie is a lie that's all
>(stuffs about lying and cowardice)
A lie means all of your achievements are nullified, if cowardice works, we won't be having this kind of discussions now, hell if Vegeta is honest, he could walk home as a happy man due to getting 2 clean wins which is not the case because he clearly admitted that he's still inferior to Goku in Buu's finale
Try keeping your stuff on one post next time, there's no need reach the word limit all the time
>make up your mind
Both. If only keeping on with the same post, I denote myself. If referring to a new post (yours or another), then that. Were you not understanding this, then?
>admit to a lie
Thought you didn't like these. You would have to new to not know about my reminders. Surely you're just having a go.
>ignoring shit
I'm not ignoring Goku. I'm shitting on him.
NOTE: You're starting to capitalize at the start of a sentence, but why not finish them more (not just when using a question mark)?
>i
I was taught some South American cultures devalue the individual and don't capitalize (like you have done here) in reference to oneself. That how it is with you?
>answer my broken English
No, revise your statement. Make it intelligible. Also, given your record, it is probable I already have (and you just didn't read *as with failing to read the manga, then arguing canon while knowing little to nothing about it*).
>AT wrote Goku being bamboozled
I'm aware. You just don't seem to know that your feelings don't change the score. Such is the way of the scrub (and you need to learn how wrong it is to be this way for your own sake). Remember, I do this for you. Not to you.
>4D chess
Vegeta mocked Cui for even trying this move on him. He did it to Goku (and won). Why? He knew the MC to be an idiot. Match-up knowledge is great. Goku's match-up ignorance (somehow not learning *like a scrub* to keep his guard up came back to haunt him). See picture: >deception invalidates
If only reality worked that way. What a world that would be. Scrub's paradise.
>autistic filenames
>wall of text
>ESLs
>characterfags
>dead thread
>dead series
>details doesn't matter
Ignoring the awkward wording, you heard it here first, folks.
>Vegeta got blown away
He sure did. His beam needed to be hit with a 77% advantage to be overpowered. 33% was only enough to clash. Now we know.
>this is a win
No, fool. That is not a win. That is Galick Gun being the superior move to Kamehameha. It doesn't need to win the clash to prove itself. A weaker fighter held off a stronger fighter by virtue of a superior technique.
That more power being dumped into the shittier move let it win the clash doesn't change the clear implication. That Kamehameha (with KKx4) put Goku in so much pain he had to struggle to use KKx2 going forward is his loss, but Vegeta going Oozaru the way he did gave him another chance (but he blew it, so whatever).
>Goku had SS3
And didn't use it (AT hadn't made it up yet aside from other issues). Not that I'd agree he would win with it (even though he should *and easily*).
>got nothing
I see that. A lot of it.
>stuffs
What is this garbage way of talking? This sounds like a female from the third-world. What country taught you this unsightly 'English'?
>lies nullify
There is no such absolute in play.
>if cowardice works we wouldn't be talking
It does (and we are). You're a fool to suggest otherwise. Operating on Good Faith makes this the only conclusion (having evaluated your words).
>he said
We've gone over this subjective business. Facts trump feelings objectively speaking. Goku was left with a mouthful of Earth. He lost. Why? He was too trusting.
>no need reach
Me love you long time. That's how you're letting yourself sound (for failure to take my advice). Now you sound like some sort of Asian, but then the spics are primitives of that sort mixing with Spaniards.
>run-ons
You seem fond of these (thinking the comma makes it alright for some reason).
>i'm not ignoring Goku
Shallow reading comprehension?
>more dictionary shit
Kay? Writing shit longer just eats your space, just write like a normal person alright kid? There's no need to pour down your class lectures here
>(justifying lies and shit)
Again, a lie is a lie, strategy or not, dance, praise, brag all you want, nobody (except Vegetafags) will agree with ya
>If only reality worked that way. What a world that would be. Scrub's paradise.
Rather than going through more primary school shit, let me just tell you how you sound like
>I-IT'S A TECHNICAL WIN FOR GALICK GUN! GOKU'S KAMEHAMEHA IS STILL WEAKER! BEING BLOWN AWAY DOESN'T COUNT
there, don't run away from this one
P-Please...
the fact that people are actually arguing this hard proves that spics don't actually meme
they've literally been going at this for hours
mental illness is a real thing, user.
Hopefully both. Not like it makes any difference since piccolo is still going to job either way.
>Shallow reading comprehension
That would be my question to you. What do you think I did there?
>Kay
Don't you mean "Que"?
>write normal
>skimp on punctuation, capitalization, entire words, etc.
You say this while often using entire quotes?
>lie is a lie
How simple you are. And simply wrong to suggest trickery is invalid. You will find war depends quite a bit on such antics. Make no mistake about what a fight is. Your romanticized, idealized concept is out of touch.
>nobody
Absolutes. We've gone over them.
>needs someone to agree
I don't. Getting people that agree isn't even something that hasn't happened in these very threads, but there is no particular need for that. Arguments don't work that way. Least of all simple statements of facts. Goku got the wool pulled over his eyes, then put down like a dog. That's how it was. Vegeta beat him (big brain style *of course, that's a joke as he mocked Cui for trying this as it would take an idiot to fall for it*).
>technical win
Why spend all this time on a fake position (you trying to strawman or something)? As before, GG is superior to Kamehameha. This is demonstrated in the beam struggle. Even while winning with KKx4, KKx3 was not enough while it had been making Goku stronger than Vegeta. The obvious truth is that GG was waking up the difference even against the trash tier ki attack Goku still uses (and Cell died for having been dumb enough to main).
Okay all of this is still
>MUH GALICK GUN TECHNICAL WINS
Just because you put some math on it to justify Galick is stronger than kame, it still doesn't change the fact that Galick loses, you don't have a right to justify Galick will win against Kame in a fair fight if you can't even admit Vegeta's win is unfair, here's a deal, i'll let Galick gun wins if you admit 1-0
>all these missing grammars
Oops i concede, i guess some typos are to be expected since i'm busy with life and stuff
Oh well, same shit, a lie is a lie and you don't have a right to make excuses for Galick when you yourself can't admit that Vegeta only had 1-0
>all of this is
Too many words (like the manga). I'll say it quick for you (again). Bigger PL tied with smaller PL. Similar moves were used. GG was the difference maker (letting 18K match 24K).
>GG lost
And it doesn't matter. I said it was the superior move. I've demonstrated the case clearly. It can lose every instance and still be superior. I trust this concept doesn't escape you.
>unfair
It was. And it still counts. Know why? No rules.
>let GG win
You don't need to. It lost. To someone relying on a 77% power advantage (33% wasn't enough). GG was shown superior as a move, but not superior enough.
>concede
That's Goku's job.
>have a right
I don't need anything of the sort.
>excuses for GG
Nor am I. Just explaining to a seeming brainlet how the move can lose, but still be evidently superior.
Since you don't have an excuse then Kamehameha wins by default right? And you said it's okay to be unfair
>Kamehameha wins
The clash. Not the contest of superior moves. Ignoring that the stress destroyed Goku (more to do with KKx4), the reminder is that GG is superior to Kamehameha as a technique. Kamehameha needing a 33% advantage to tie with it is all that need be understood. They are similar moves (GG doesn't have some special ki cost, charge time, etc.), but one is just more effective than the other. Goku throwing more power (through KKx4) into the beam doesn't matter. Winning the struggle doesn't matter. Kamehameha is shown to be inferior. It is all very simple.
>okay to be unfair
In what way do you think that applies to GG being superior to Kamehameha? Are you trying to say that Kamehameha (in this instance) having the PL advantage behind it (not winning on its modifier/merit) makes it the better move? This isn't a question of the 'fight records' (like with Goku vs Vegeta from before). Just which moves is bigger bang for your buck. Was that not clear to you somehow? Once more, Goku with KKx3 was dominating in melee, but in the clash the beams were merely equal. Vegeta didn't suddenly increase to 24K himself. His attack was just that good. That it wasn't able to handle further multiplying is no count against it (nor proof against the noted).
NOTE: You're welcome for the patient reminding, by the way.
If Goku couldn't gather the Ki needed to vaporise Boo because super saiyan 3 was too much of a drain on a living body why didn't he just kill himself and come back with a dead body to beat Boo? It's clearly possible for the dead to go to the kaioshin realm without issue.
Goku is a moron.
>kamehameha wins the clash
So it's stronger then, okay. Besides, if galick gun is that good, why do they need father and son to push back Zamasu while Kamehameha only needs one person to push him back?
I want her to ss Goten.
raditz and nappa still suffer in hell , they can be revive anytime , but no one want to do it .
Is there any gimmick besides characterfagging?
おまたせ
he just come here to pick up his brother , then his brother refuse and kill him instead .
NANI? A DBS arc with an interesting villain who is an actual threat could change the world and also cause a based comeback from the z figthers???
>also cause a based comeback from the z figthers???
lol good one
>deliberately misunderstanding
Why do you wish not to have a proper conversation? Are you that upset about Vegeta being 2-0 over Goku?
Being stronger doesn't mean you will win (like winning doesn't make you stronger). In the case of GG, it didn't need to be 'stronger' or even to 'win' to prove itself superior to Kamehameha as already detailed.
Choosing to ignore the obvious won't persuade others away from the truth (this isn't even a contentious matter like that which scrubs get tangled up over accepting *2-0*). Were GG not superior to the extent that it was, Vegeta would have lost to KKx3 (not making it necessary for Goku to hurt himself with KKx4).
>if GG is that good, why did this non-canon thing happen
Is it time now to go over this matter, too? Super is just napkin scribbles from the author that get bastardized in two directions (anime and manga) by other parties. There is nothing legitimate/authentic to make it qualify as canon. Just official. Both versions. And neither happened where the source material is concerned. They're set as if they are in that storyline at a time before EoZ. That's it. Just another take on GT.
>still suffer in hell
Proper noun. Also, you base this on what?
Is this some more ESL at work? Or are you really being sincere? I think you mean to ask if I do other things (not so much if others do while being surrounded by waifufags image dumping all over to end the thread quickly) in these topics aside from giving reminders. If so, yes. I've even indulged the chaps going on about coping, dogs, concessions, pets, etc. within the last week.
So you're a generic characterfag
Yawn
I'll admit I am now cautiously optimistic. As the saiyan's defeat and the whole namekian setting has a great set up for Piccolo and Gohan. Former especially.
One can hope, this is an open goal for Tori.
For that matter he even has enough of an eye for sexual matters to know that Chichi was well past her prime.
Jobccolo and Jobhan won't do shit
>Super is not canon
There it is, the insta-loss keyword
What was her name again?
Also I am unclear, was she Videls mother?¹¹11
>do other things
>so you don't
Good chat. Be sure to cope.
>open goal
Watch him work diligently to avoid it (wide). I presume this is a poverty ball reference. That right?
Good chance of that, unfortunately.
Reminder that hating Gohan is a blatant sign of low test and that you're a sexless incel
seethe
Friend
>keyword
>means to say phrase
Just brilliant. Nice argument, too. Concise. I take it you won't even try to suggest AT's vague, incomplete skeleton of an offering isn't bastardized in different directions by the two parties in question (content added, taken away or changed).
That's right, boys. It's that time again.
>reddit spacing
Maximum cringe
Play it wide, avoid it, it's the same gist really. I really want to disagree but DB is such a big brand so deviations from the norm/status quo probably would be unlikely. But as I said, one can hope.
He clearly loves Chichi enough to fuck her at least twice.
Fucking phoneposters.
>hating rapists and pedos means you hate rapists and pedos
Gotcha jobtard
>Caucasians
Gross
I'm so fucking smart at this holy shit
Post millionaires.
>proper noun
You forgot something.
>shaming proper grammar and form
What could you have been thinking?
>avoid it
AT sure doesn't seem interested. His treatment of them so far hasn't been much kinder than GT (in just ignoring them). Well, other than the case for 17.
>he got raped twice
Debatable. I've seen evidence Gohan may have taken the second L.
>admitting to being from reddit
Impeccable cringe
That's sad.
>raditz and nappa still suffer in hell , they can be revive anytime , but no one want to do it .
Sad really. I mean imagine what could have been? Imagine Nappa reformed and settling down with a family, like Vegeta.
>He thinks they're white
>56% mutt detected
They are half breeds
>making no such statement
>declared admission
Riveting. More to add? You didn't finish your sentence. Maybe take a crack at why so many struggle with Vegeta being undefeated against Goku (2-0). How about it?
What a thot.
Last image goes to YamCHAD.
Cope, dog
SILENCE
what's goin' on her-
Isn't Jobririn the same age as Goku, the father of that shit sitting next to him?
They shouldn't tease a bald manlet like that.
悲しい
>this massive projection
jesus how utterly pathetic
>together I'm sure we can beat Buu...
Vegeta doesn't deserve a friend like Goku
>friend
Vassal, rather. Otherwise your sentiment holds true. How did he get one willing to job to him in every fight they have? Always makes him look good.
are super threads just people posting images of other peoples favorite characters getting beaten and then saying their name + an insult like Jobhan or Jobgeta
Yes
But this is what happens when you make a shitty general from a show with no content
CONCEDE
Yes
BEJITA-SAMA!
is a jobber
YOU STILL HAVEN'T KISSED HER!
So?
ジョブジータ様！！
Just not against Goku. Ever. Not even once. Thus, 2-0.
私はそれについてすべては知りませんが、ベジータは悟空に対して無敗です。
there was never any tension in dragon ball, only anime pretended that there was for a while
why not?
vegeta wins again