Was he real? Also Satoshi Kon thread
Was he real? Also Satoshi Kon thread
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Was Satoshi the best anime director ever existed?
>Conveniently only hits stressed out people who are trying to get out of something.
Of course Shounen Bat is real. There's no way he's a form of collective hysteria abused by people under pressure. That would be insane hahahahahhaha.
Yes
It's symbolic
But I don't know what does it represent
But he disn't direct serial experiments lain and texhnolyze
I'd like to read his manga, even if it's incomplete. Anime when?Any news?
Genius
Is Nolan an hack or was this just a weird coincidence?
this is ironic, right?
Yea Forums's favorite director. Glad this fuck died
He never worked with video games
What does Yea Forums have to do with video games?
Texhnolyze was shit though.
An homage..?
>perfect blue and paranoia agent
9/10
>tokyo godfathers and millenium actress
8/10
>paprika
7/10
what does Yea Forums have to do with satoshi kon? Why are you bringing it up anyways? Can't you just discuss his work? Christ...
Why is Yea Forums Yea Forums's boogeyman
Kon was a genius. My favourite movies by him are Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress and Tokyo Godfathers. Paranoia Agent is due for a rewatch, it had a few very good episodes in there. Especially Satoru Utsunomiya's, episode 8 I think?
probably waifumoeshitters got told to fuck off from Yea Forums
>tokyo godfathers
>10/10
ftfy
Satoshi Kon predicted psycho fans and idol kidnappings during stage. More importantly, he understood idols are just things, not human anymore
This post is ironic, right?
nope
damn
retard
“Viewers are too used to being treated kindly, so I’ve broken this pattern deliberately” – Satoshi Kon
Was he the David Lynch of anime movies?
Texhnolyze is only good if you want to feel like killing yourself.
a hack, and not the only one
Because it is going to bore you to death?
No, they have easy to understand messages. Hard to call it outright art house.
He was a tulpa
No.
Maybe.
Do it, also read Seraphim, you can avoid Kaikisen.
Perfect Blue > Actress > Seraphim > Tokyo Fathers > Opus > Paprika > Paranoia Agent > Kaikisen
But all of these are pretty interesting.
>Leaving out the best one
I personally watched that show many years ago, and I don't remember almost anything. Maybe it wasn't that special, maybe I was a retarded. I should rewatch it one day. Maybe.
Even Niea is better than Haibane, since it doesn't have any shitty drama.
Good show, horrible ending.
It was realistic
Some day I need to make webms of all the cool cuts in perfect blue.
Faggot user can't even bait, retard.
>Was he the David Lynch of anime movies?
No, 100% Stanley Kubrick.
Let's all take a moment to realize how important Susumu Hirasawa is, too. That soundtrack lifts Millennium Actress into god tier.
>No, 100% Stanley Kubrick.
Oh wow, even better.
I dont get why people don't like Paprika
I really dislike Oshii. He is way too pretentious
Real shit, thanks so much for this, user. I needed a platform for such a worthless blog tier post. It's been driving me nuts.
So, Perfect Blue and Paranoia Agent, right? They don't have any real message do they?
Everyone here knows Kon was a genius, and all his five works are a masterpiece on their own merit, I think we can all agree on that much, but do Perfect Blue or Paranoia Agent in particular actually push a message? They show plenty. Perfect Blue shows the world how deranged things can get on the other side of a screen and how it can skew perceptions on either side (years before any other director or writer or anybody thought to), and Paranoia Agent shows the world simply how fucked you can be mentally while still functioning in society, fitting through the cracks, falling under the bell curve as if you were as unexceptional as the next guy and what people will do to try and escape this realization once they've had it. But do either actually say anything about either of those phenomena, for lack of a better term?
It's not a problem if they don't; we could all name a handful of masterpieces which don't relay a specific message. I just thought it was odd because Millennium Actress, Paprika, and Tokyo Godfathers all have such well defined, emotionally charged, and pointed messages in themselves, it was weird his other two works were less of a speech and more of a presentation.
And just to be candid, I ask because I heavily relate to a few of the losers from Paranoia Agent and it's so odd to see a show, from a genius like Kon, no less, which showcases such a specific problem I just happen to have, but which doesn't tell me how to fix it. It's like, why not go the extra mile, right? Especially if you're Satoshi Kon and have what's probably the most interesting worldview of an human alive.
>kissanime
Tokyo Godfathers was by far his weakest movie. It didn't even seem a Satoshi Kon movies.
People thinking Perfect Blue doesn't have a message...really?
This article has a pretty good writeup on Tokyo Godfathers:
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I think it's a great movie
Perfect blue definitely has a message, it's about mistreatment of women in the film and idol industry.
Just watched Tokyo Godfathers a couple of days ago. One aspect that really surprised me was the level of detail for the facial expressions of the characters. They really made the difference to make them much more empathetic (that and the voice acting). My favorite scene has to be Miyuki in the phone booth calling her dad (right before ambulance crash). She goes through 10 different expressions in the span of a couple of seconds, to the point where you can feel her thought process completely. Such a small thing that made this cheesy movie much more memorable than it would have been.
Now I'm back to watching regular anime and find myself a bit disappointed that studios can afford to be lazy with the character expressions and don't take risks to stray far from character models.
is there a 1080p version?
just add some pink in paint
kek, you know what i meant
>Satoshi Kon made anime for people who doesn't like anime
Yes, there was a link to buy as well. I can find it later if the thread is still up. This is what I got instead.
>Dreaming Machine will never be released
Every little crap ever written has a message and having one doesn't account to shit. Satoshi Kon is the typical result when the anime industry overproduces random garbage, so every little piece of clever thoughtful blending of messages is regarded as a mindblowing work of genius compared to the rest.
If you want just a little explanation of why Kon isn't a genius, here's one.
In his work Paranoia Agent he demonstrates the phenomena of mass hysteria which is a very real, unbelievably frequent and an utterly autistic phenomenon. A psychological effect that starts in the mind of the schizophrenic deluded individual who is prone to suggestibility and a group mentality.
However, he masquerades it as "paranoia" for some strange reason. Paranoia as a phenomenon can also be a mass occurrence, but the phenomena he showed and described in detail was straight out hysteria.
The thing is that although hysteria does have elements of paranoia, the basic difference is that hysteria incorporates elements of personal invention and aware fabrication, so straight out lying, and a "honest" so to say element of indulgence in the said fabrication which makes it seem like a honest opinion, even if wrong. Jet, it's not. It's a straight out jizz fest of getting off on one's own bullshit - my translation of the phenomenon from scientific language into Yea Forums speak. So, what he described was not paranoia, it was mass hysteria that has the agent of a collective threat. Here personified in an non-existing boogieman, which is again a common trait of it. Then he merges it with the source, and that's an individual who started it because they where coping with a quilt they cant get over.
So, he tries to justify it by kinda misleading the audience into sympathy, and seems to not be aware that the phenomena he demonstrates is something else in psychology and far less justifiable.
What are other anime for people who don't like anime?
Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Studio Ghibli, and the works of Masaaki Yuasa (or as I call him, Yuasa Masaaki).
>Studio Ghibli
nope
>the animated version pulls hand away immediately
>live action, holds her hand in air, emoting nothing as if knowingly in front of green screen
wow, animation really does capture live action better.