Dragon Ball Super

I predict that everyone will get along in this thread.

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I love GT. I rewatched it last month and had fun for the entire time.
I wish we had more adventures of Goku/Pan/Trunks.

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I love her so much. There's no cuter character in the entire franchise.

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I can't believe Cranberry just got a a sugar daddy

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Reminder that Moro is weak.

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Whatever makes you sleep at night, jobrenfag

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He's a weakling who needs to resort to trickery. Jiren just uses overwhelming force to destroy SSBs.

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Osu!

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>Trunks.
This always confused me, why Trunks of all people instead of Goten?

>Molocucks and Joblyspics
Remember when the Joblyspics kept memeing that CHADren was weaker than Cucknber? LMAO

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I see three jobbers in this image
Let me post someone actually strong

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>Jobrenegroes think that Goku post-ToP is still weaker than their disgusting filthy shonengarbage character

>no MUI
He's far weaker. Cope.

Concede

Probably because Trunks was already more popular due to Future Trunks.

>Doglyspics now jumping on moro bandwagon

Pathetic.

They shouldn't have separated Trunks and Goten, desu.

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>no argument

Consider your concession accepted.

>Goku regrows his tail
>Now he's the most powerful being in the universe
Wow was that hard

Why are pictures of Dragon Ball girls wearing shimapan so hot?

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How does him having a tail make a difference?

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Bills is such a pieces of shit
As a character, he is worse than current gohan

Yes, I Said BILLS

yuya is the strongest character in dragon ball.

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He will always have a boost in energy and won't lose as much energy as he does without his tail. Plus, it grants some more mobility and could use it to attack like Raditz did.
Supposedly, (this can be headcanon) he could master SS3 at full power if he had a tail.

why do I bother looking for dragon ball threads. It's filled with the "Broly vs Jiren" idiots or just general retardation that disallows any decent discussion.

I just wanna discuss the series and share opinions without people trying to preach them as facts or compensate for their low self-confidence by trying to prove everything they like is "correct".


BTW the answer to who is stronger, Broly or Jiren, is literally just: "Wait and see for when they fight, which they probably will."

why and how is there not an edit of this with people making false accusations about the anime coming back?

Why did Freeza Destroy planet vegeta, again?

If you want genuine discussion, make a thread on Yea Forums and hope no one from here follows you

Man, cant wait to see the asspull to defeat Moro

Based:
>Goku
>Gogeta
>Broly
>Moro
>Freeza
>Piccolo
>Roshi
>Krillin
>Buu

Cringe:
>Vegeta
>Vegito
>Jiren
>Kefla
>Gohan
>17
>Tien
>Yamcha
>Cell

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damn dbm is fucking awful

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Reminder that the moro arc is filler until the anime returns in July.

Why does Gohan know Hokuto Shinken

They been mildy threatening and most Saiyans not being manlets made him insecure.

go away reekdom
no one wants to hear your shit headcanon

i wonder if seeing the price all "grown" up would have alleviated his fears

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jesus christ vegeta is embarrassing to look at. kuririn at least looks like a kid so he doesn't look too off there but vegeta is very clearly a norwooding grown man.

manlets when will they learn?

haha

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dragon ball but played completely straight/edgy is the most disgusting thing i've ever seen.

how can you call yourself a "fan" of the series when you don't even fucking realize that the only reason dragon ball even works as a story is due to all the comedy?

which is why the cell arc is the worst

Why are GT designs so fucking ugly? Super 17 looks like a fucking fish. The only decent design is SS4.

is goku a shitty mc?
>lets his friends and family die for fun and good fight

cell arc is full of great comedy, it's anime that ruined it

bingo

Fuck off, Goro-Cold is actually awesome, just the right amount of edge, and mad respect for the artist for managing to keep this anatomical monstrosity mostly on model in its appearances.

yep. 100% correct. the cell arc is what spawned all these shitty fanfics that think dragon ball should be edgy SS2 teen gohan 24/7.

he's better than your regular shonen protag
>muh friendship power

Why does everyone here act like there wasn't graphic violence in the original manga?

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Yeah Goku may be incredibly simple but I'll take that any day over the tranny faggot MCs of shows like hero academia/fairy tail/black clover/whatever other trash is popular on Yea Forums right now

but the writing is so shit though, he's like a pure antihero and other characters pretend as if he was a good guy, goku's family should be like mishima family from tekken

That violence is rarely coming from the good guys, idiot.

that one had a point to show how bad the androids were
the one in dbm is pointless since we already know what the characters are capable of

>I don't like it so it's pointless!!
LMAO

we already know that gohan could take on nappa
so its pointless to show it
there's a difference between
>introducing new characters and showing how ruthless they are
>already established character does something thats clearly out of character

It's not pointless, it's to show that Gohan is a badass

What happened to Gokek?

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DBM doesn't take itself seriously at all though, you fucking clown. There are a bunch of gags in it. Stop parroting what you see on twitter and trying to fit in, you fucking bandwagoning piece of shit

>gohan
>badass
said no one ever

salagir can't translate for shit

CRINGE

that's probably the most grotesque, ridiculous bit of violence ever in DB and it doesn't even come close to the stupidity that is Gohan melting Nappa's body away with punches. try harder.

>he's a chad who uses cool great abilities, jobren just uses le big powerlevel, that's why he would job to him
I know.

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That's edgy Gokek getting ATATATATA'd

I'm sure some Mexican has.

>this is what gohanfags think db should be
every day i thank the lord that toriyama is still in charge

No Pedro all you are saying is either headcanon or bullshit GT made up, having a tail only gives you Ozaru, no more.
Well and the useless wip-like attack

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>tfw we will never get a line up as good as this ever again

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No, you stupid fucking Pedro. Have you ever watched OG DB? When he regrows his tail in the Tenkaichi, he becomes more energetic and stronger.

But Tien is undefeated against Gokek

Dance, Dance for me puppets!

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Fuck off, Super 17 looks based and better than Green-Shirt-17

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The worst part is that the story doesn't seem to know what to do with him anymore. We haven't seen his full power, he's lazy as fuck, him and other gods lost their presence when Goku Asspulled MUi and Jiren existing and the fact Who's does more shit than him and he's a mguffin to boot.

Gt had a lot of potential which I wish were explored again.

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He's a lucky man

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Friezabros, I've come for you! Trash belongs in the trash bin, wasn't it?

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>old man who has been around since forever
>fights by sucking other men dry
>keeps a young thing around for his amusement

I-Is Moro the lewdest villain?

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was dragon ball always garbage or it started being garbage at some point?

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>Beerus is a bad character
>Unironically calling him Bills past 2013

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I saw a few but rarely, I guess some retards still think this arc is 100% Toyotaro and think the anime won't make its own version too

No wonder that tomato freak isn't afraid going up against Goku. What's a god to a non-believer?

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always garbage. goku's always been the MC.

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Because Multiverse's gore is far more common and unnecesary (aka edgy), like said that level of violence is almost villain exclusive because it shows how heartless they are, Gohan doing that to Nappa is completely ridiculous when he can one shot him in a more dignified and less cruel way

How can they even reasonably beat him? Short of Beerus, Whis, or Zeno showing up, him being able to SUCC everyone into submission is too ridiculous.

done with these threads. have fun posting the same shit over and over.

>When he regrows his tail in the Tenkaichi, he becomes more energetic and stronger
Thanks for sharing your headcanon with us Juan but nobody gives a shit.

That's a nice Captain America drawing

cope

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Well, with the not to subtle hints that Namekian fusion is going to come back into play, what are the odds that Piccolo Rojo-Ojos is going to become canon?

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Keep crying.

see you tomorrow then.

He's a goat, the animal that represents the lust of the seven deadly sins so yes

>him being able to SUCC everyone into submission

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The Broly movie seemed to indicate he could have beaten Broly, though he would probably use Hakai to do so.

Setting aside the jokes, the only rival undefeated against Goku is Vegeta. Yamcha, Krillin, Tien, Piccolo...In the end, there could be only one.

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Sorry user, namekian fusion already came back and jobbed in the same chapter. Jobber slugs are a comedy relief now, they job harder than Vegeta

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The strongest

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I wonder if Cranberry will change outfits and take off that helmet.

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Fuck, you made me form a mental image

Here's the outline of the new Dragon Ball Super episodes:
>10 episodes of pure filler
>20 episodes of Jaco adaptation
>15 filler episodes
>30 Broly episodes
>20 filler episodes
>40 Moro episodes
>25 filler episodes
>60 episodes of whatever's next

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>still loses

>he could have beaten a guy over 50 times stronger than himself
No

>Hakai
What makes you think you can Hakai someone stronger than you? Specially someone THAT much stronger

I love Arale!

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Why would he discard his scouter?

>dead series
>dead thread

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You are a subhuman piece of dogshit
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>he could have beaten a guy over 50 times stronger than himself
>over 50 times stronger
Nice headcanon

>What makes you think you can Hakai someone stronger than you?
What makes you think you cant? The only things Hakai doesn't work against are true immortals.

>I love GT. I rewatched it last month and had fun for the entire time.
I wish we had more adventures of Goku/Pan/Trunks.
This makes me sad, that there may never be anymore adventures of Pan and friends. Maybe Dragon ball GT is in hiatus?

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YAMCHA!

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>Remember when the Joblyspics? kept memeing that CHADren was weaker than Cucknber?
He is, in fact Cumber rapes Jobren, Zamasu rapes god Jobppo and jobyspo, then jobren returns to fight Zamasu, and Cumber and Hearts join in.
Come July I'm going to love seeing Chadly stomping jobren.

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but as a kid it looked like innocence rather than relentless psychopathy and mental retardation

>new Dragon Ball Super episodes

>give up your life to help someone win a fight
>lose the fight anyway
>your personality and existence are assimilated into someone else

Namekians suffer a lot.

>Why are GT designs so fucking ugly? Super 17 looks like a fucking fish. The only decent design is SS4.
What about the rest of the character designs?

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GT >>> DBM >>>>>>>>>>>> Shitper

Pan is ugly as shit

>anime
I'm not even bothering. Read the manga, nothing ever said Goku powered up at all, and when he lost his tail in the first arc he didn't said he got weaker at all, he gave no fucks

Y'all are weird

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>Gt had a lot of potential which I wish were explored again.
This would be good.

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>Jobrentards seething that CHADlybros have better things to do

>Pan is ugly as shit
Pan is a canon character and exists.

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Pan is cute

Panfaggot is worse than the retards who spam U6 thots or shrek waifubait

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why do you avatarfag

Cry more, faggot.

I can only imagine how fat and disgusting Panfag is.

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>n-no it's not 50x
Even if that was the case, it's still the difference between base and SS, which is canonically a fuckton. It's like saying base Vegeta could beat SS Goku

>what makes you think you can't
No, what makes (You) think you can? All techniques have a limit, there's no reason to think you can oneshot someone faaaar stronger than you in such a cheap way

SUPER cute!
Ningens of this thread don't deserve such purity

You forgot your mantis picture, fatfuck.

They deserve it

Arale is cuter and also canon.

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Reminder that Pan got dumped by Chad in the first episode of GT. What a loser.

built for BBC

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Yamcha is 2-0 against Gokek though, then there's also Puar and Beerus who are both undefeated against him as well.

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This feels like a political cartoon somehow.

What?

I want canon GT

>TEEHEE LOOK AT ME I LIKE YAMCHA IM SO QUIRKY AND LE FUNNEH XDD

>there's no reason to think you can oneshot someone faaaar stronger than you in such a cheap way
Besides its literally the whole point of the fucking power in the first place.

Its like Mafuba, it works on ANYONE

I don't remember Goku beating Jackie Chun.

Does anybody here even like Super?

Right now, I prefer Moro's older design. I think that it's more unique and better reflects that he's a wizard. I think we'll see him change more in the future, though.

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At this point Broly night as well tank it since a person like frieza could with no god ki

Nope

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I have a passing interest in what the antagonists get up to, but no real interest in the heroes or the fights.

>h-harder.... Moro-sama....

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I like the manga and the movies (especially Broly), and I enjoyed the anime while it aired, though I'll never watch it again. I have hopes for the new anime, whenever it comes out.

Yikes

Kefla is the beautifullest

I enjoy it a lot but I am aware that it is complete garbage.

Can we actually have a in depth discussion, about Dragon ball GT? Like, why it brought the dragon ball series to a close, whilst at the same time, it is not considered "canon" or relevant? Why is it cherry picked so much for it's flaws, even though DBZ and DBS has flaws? Canon or not, I believe, that DBGT is a great contribution to the Dragon ball series.

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This looks vaguely sexual.

I only stayed with it for the ost and some ideas it threw out. Otherwise I didn't even consider it above Gt.

Prove it.

Dr. Slump had some cute girls.

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>gohan is now edgy vegeta
Yikes!

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Eh, The anime had terrible animation in the early seasons but it got better towards the ToP. I don't think the Goku Black story was necessary with the ToP being hyped. ToP hands down was the most enjoyable part. Watching Frieza getting mogged by U11 people are probably my favorite scenes. It was decent but had it's highs

It's a fun joke, but he isn't. Puar is, but that's not a rival. Beerus isn't one either (to pretend like Goku is anything of the sort to him is silly).

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fuck the manga

Still, he did better than Piccolo in terms of fight record against the MC. He got a win (though no kill).

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because you're a waifufag

Might be a little generous to call him a rival, but I'll allow it. Considering his help of Puar, he's 2-1 against Goku.

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>another joke
Dual layered, no less. To call his master his rival is a bit much. Still, it is true he is undefeated against Goku. Just not his rival.

Despite it being non canon a lot of designs and stuff are used from it a lot. The fanboys especially love ssj4.

Is Moro the biggest edgelord in Dragon Ball yet?

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oh no

>Ugh, those retards who watch the anime.... they'll never be true fans like me who only read the manga...

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Even if she allowed it, short of going full gag, he can't absorb an actual android. Hell, she might absorb him from the inside.

Whoa...

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This ended up being canon and I love it

Where's his jaw? Did he loose it in an accident or something?

>Needed to be tag-teamed multiple times and distracted just for U7 to win.

Why do all these fucking machildren think being borderline guro equates to being mature?

>ssj4
>j

>only reading the manga
The adaptation is not to be used for speaking on canon (only retards do this), but it is good for a more dramatic showing (color, music, animation, VA work, etc.).

>this quality drop
Toei Fist deserves it. Fuck that made-up trash. Goku only used the one-arm Kamehameha like that for having let himself get crippled (while not knowing how to fly or having his pole). It is just him launching himself while throwing a punch, but this trash pretends like there is a magical ki dragon impaling, constricting and exploding on the target. What could be less canon than Goku making up a move of his own?

If you only watch the anime, you don't have much to talk about right now.

>In the game, in his Super Full Power state Jiren has the edge over Super Saiyan 3 Full Power Cunber, Fused Zamasu and Hearts, leading Hearts to say that Jiren is worthy of being called the strongest in all the universes.
Hahaahahaha, it's fucking sad how you have to take a photo of yourself literally losing the mission and proving you are shit at the game in the process, no, you aren't pulling any "on purpose" excuse, and then have the audacity to pretend that's part of the story.

Sorry bitch but we have a wiki that can't be edited by any liar like yourself and it has the actual truth in it. If you are right, feel free to prove your point there and come back as we all laugh at your failed attempt for being exposed as the fraud you are, Joblyspic. Cope.

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>Arale absorbs Cell from the inside
Talk about getting eaten out

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>Besides its literally the whole point
That's your headcanon, Hakai is just a very destructive move (because that's literally the name), no more.

Also
>Mafuba works on anyone
Wrong again, if the difference is too big you can't seal your enemy, even if you sacrifice your life

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Dry your tears. You're not alone. I remember when another got tag-teamed repeatedly until he lost the war (still actually won his battle decisively with the MC thanks to not being subject to playfighting rules requiring ring-out).

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>Despite it being non canon a lot of designs and stuff are used from it a lot. The fanboys especially love ssj4.
Should DBS have used SSJ4 instead?

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I'll miss the facial hair

I'm used to adding the j after seeing it and hearing it a lot in the sub.

Nah, that was Black

That's the screen that appears after failing a mission, not the one from the story. Holy fucking shit Cucklyfags really believe every is as retarded as they are.

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Why is Yamamoro lazy as fuck?!

>SSJ4
>J
But that's wrong.

>used to being wrong
No time for correction like the present.

>after seeing weebs do it
Don't let that seal your fate.

>hearing it in the sub
You what?

Did someone say Black?

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Eh with it or something similar. They seem to be going that direction with Broly as he's basically using similar attributes and concept from ssj4 except it replacing the legendary form for the future. I'll definitely take it over Goku and Vegeta getting green hair.(broly movie looked like it hints they may get it) lord knows we don't need more colors to the rainbow hair.

I somehow like the slice of life moments more than the fights

>DBZ
>DBGT
>DBS

All have flaws.

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When I say hear I mean how the Japanese pronounced it like saiyajin rather then how we do it. Its been in my head and been trying to shake it out since.

More like Dragon Ball Grand Turd lmao goteem

>aping a move the Vegeta-side of Vegetto stole from some space Frenchmen
Kais really are glorified fruit mortals.

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>SSJ4
>J
>But that's wrong.
Why is this important?

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Black you say?

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Why is GT associated with spics? I'm pretty sure other fellow yuros watched it.

>More like Dragon Ball Grand Turd lmao goteem

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>hear and pronounce it in Nip
Okay, but you don't use a suffix (jin) in an abbreviation (as per grammar rules). You know it is officially wrong, yes? "Saiyajin" is treated as a single word in the same way "Saiyan" is despite using the "n" to declare the people (Saiya People, that is). It isn't suddenly "SSN" (or SSn for those noticing it wouldn't even be capitalized were it allowed) in English.

>been trying
Try harder. I'll help.

>why be right
Lay off the pipe, old fool.

>samefag repeating the same lie calling anyone a retard
>Wiki sources
I love stomping Jobrentards every time I post here, no one can beat me!

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This might sound dumb, but one of the reasons I like the anime is for the filler. The Piccolo drive school and Yamcha baseball episodes were pretty wholesome. I wish there could be more when it returns.

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Is Toyo a furry?

Different situations and scenario.
Vegeta’s pride and ego was damaged after Goku’s Kaioken x4 Kamehameha and knew nothing about the consequences of going beyond Kaioken x2 as he made the decision to use is Oozaru form.
He was too focused on too many objectives
>Torturing Kakarotto for making him bleed
>Fighting Gohan
>Pummeling Yajirobe
>Taking Oozaru, Gohan down while forgetting his tail on two instances.
Jiren was hardly distracted by his own motives and objectives and U7 knew that. Rules or not, U7 couldn’t take Jiren in a straightforward fight.

>I'll definitely take it over Goku and Vegeta getting green hair.
I think SS4 is a more likely transformation than the DBS transformations, considering that they are Saiyans.

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What's his powerlevel?

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>B-BEJITA PLEASE!!!

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DBChads don't need to get along with other DBChads because everybody knows that only a DBChad can defeat a DBChad. And a defeated DBChad is still Chad. If a Huntertard got involved in the "Jiren vs Broly vs Moro" debate, then its head would explode. It would try to reason with the DBChad so that He may spare it's life, but the effort would be for naught because the DBChad doesn't understand mumbles.
It's been proven time and time again that DragonBall is the only anime the Chad acknowledges and enjoys. Look at the army of swole Goku cosplayers. Look at the ocean of DragonBall gym apparel. If you were to ask an IRL Chad about HunterXHunter or Bleach, he would stare at you with confusion. Ask him about MHA or Naruto, he will laugh at you. Ask him about DragonBall, he will smile at you with fondness.
Fellas, keep arguing about "Jiren vs Moro vs Broly." Keep arguing about "Toyotaro vs Toei." Keep arguing about about Goku's record against Vegeta or Vegeta's record against Frieza. Keep arguing about "Gohan vs Kefla." Hell, keep arguing about Super vs GT. In the end, DB threads are still about DB while other threads about long running series devolve into waifufaggotry because they have nothing. We are the Chads of Yea Forums.

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DBchadbradfadtadpadladmadvadcadradyadwad

Not anymore.

OH NO NO NO NO

>different situation and scenario
Yeah, I know. Pretty well covered it. One is a playfight with serious consequences (potentially). The other is an actual fight. One had the villain lose to the MC in the end. The other bested the MC (losing to the leftovers).

>Vegeta didn't know about KK
>used Oozaru unnecessarily
Yes, and?

>Jiren still lost with one of the people beating him being Goku
Okay.

>can't take him in a straight fight
Cold comfort. I hope it helps (like Goku's fans appealing to SS3 when 2-0 happened). How do you suppose Hit's handful of fans would feel about his fights always being with 'no kill' rules? Jiren wasn't fated to be undefeated against Goku. AT did not will it.

Fucking insanely based. I can tell that you are not a virgin.

Caulifla Puta

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The driving lessons episode was certainly one of the highlights of dbz, maybe something like that again, but in SPACE!

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>Goku beats Frieza but loses to Vegeta
>Vegeta beats Goku but loses to Frieza
>Frieza beats Vegeta but loses to Goku

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Dumb little monkeys.

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I've just noticed Yamcha only has his googles on the last pannel, what the fuck was that?

kek

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Nice so now you post a picture of your own post crying over the objective wiki utterly BTFOing your headcanon. Tell me, Joblyspic, who is more likely to make shit up, a shitpister hating on CHADren because his favorite character is a weakling or a heavily moderated wiki that has no reason to shit on either CHADren or Jobly?

This isn't something I made up, I can't edit the wiki just like you can't, so you can't even blame it on haters or fanboys. SAD!

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>not posting the full version

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I'm using Mexican Internet you supreme final Rock SEVEN faggot.

>I want canon GT
When you think about it user, DBGT is canon.
Also, why do you think it should be cannon?

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>heavily moderated wiki that has no reason to shit on either CHADren or Jobly
i spent a week trying to help that disaster of a "wiki". they don't even have a discord and there's some autistic spic who reverts every edit that goes against his headcanon. the mods don't care and let him do what he wants.

He's cutting the outside of the body, not using pressure points. It's Nanto famalam.

Twice as strong as Jiren then

>canon
>cannon

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>Main villain drains energy, meaning special techniques are needed to beat him
>Readers are being reminded of namekian fusion
is it time

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>i spent a week trying to help
By helping you mean trying to push your biased headcanon? No wonder why nobody even cared about what you had to say lmao.

Nobody who refers to Jiren as CHADren or Jobren, or Broly as Jobly or CHADly should be left anywhere near a page that is trying to be objective. Cry me a river Cucklyspic but it's literally your biased word against a wiki that can't be edited by any shitter like you and me. Cope.

>letting him watch
The Prince is feeling generous, today.

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遠からず。

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GO BROLY GO GO
GO BROLY GO GO

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Already debunked your lies Jobrentardo
Cope

Behold!
Garbage
youtube.com/watch?v=2mtQcM5ByxQ

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Goku won 3 of those fights though.

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>Cucklyspic SEETHING
Nice biased opinion, Bitchlyspic. Too bad we got a canon CHADki.

based

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>Ahmsmon (Growth stage)
>Cellzahmsmon (Mature stage)
>BlackHitahmsmon (Complete body)

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It depends if they want to add it or not. They might but well see.

>Janken Trio
But which is which?

AT messing up. He does that from time to time.

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Ahmsealasmon (Ultimate body)

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>anonymous shitposting on a tibetan throat singing board should disqualify me from contributing to the DB wiki that is the laughing stock of the anime wiki community
why? it's not like i'm going in there writing CHADLY IS THE STRONGEST FUCK KEKREN, i was fixing syntax and spic grammar mostly. i just got sick of having my edits reverted by the same butthurt spic who views the entire wiki as his personal minecraft server and having to wait hours for the mods to respond and do anything about it. i've volunteered for a few wikis in the past and the DB one is by far the biggest gongshow in terms of how it's run.

>all those cells
>uses Kamehameha

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>beerus getting written out of a fight we could actually see him fight seriously in
>whis doesn't tell him the full story out of plot
>strongest namekian ever(?) gets one shot

>fake translations

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>cucklyspic SEETHING over his headcanon being ignored
You are biased as shit, nothing that comes from you is objective and has a very high chance of not being true due to your biased viewpoint. Cope.

They fucking tried this today and it got shut down already. Stop lying.

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>fake
Proof?

fuck the official twitter just confirmed it's Sealas not Ahms (althought he's probably fused with Ahms anyway)

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>canon
>cannon
Thanks for pointing that out user.

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sometimes i don't know why i even bother replying

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what is this dbwiki garbage

Random shitposter with no source crying about a verified wiki supposedly lying and having no source.

Vegeta is scissors, ruthless and aggressive.

Freiza is paper, flexible and versatile in his methods.

Goku is the rock, firm in his beliefs and training.

> this doesn't match up with how they beat each other, though

fuck

ahn~

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Considering how Ozaru Vegeta defeated Goku I'd say he's the paper, Goku is the rock and Freeza is the scissors

How can Toriyama color a whole armor like that and not notice it
Remind me of that one panel in the Freeza fight where he has his shoulder pad back

So what is this garbage?

>Jobren the cum master

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Here's something we can all agree that was good from GT
youtube.com/watch?v=hewCW-gRsTY

You're right.

only one. cope.

I liked it more in Path to Power

Honestly, if you watch GT knowing that it's non-canon and for the sake of being entertained, it's a pretty fun experience (even if some episodes' animation can be borderline dogshit).

s o o n

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Vegeta has to be scissors because then you make a "V" sign with your hand when you play him
Freeza is rock because pick related
Goku is Paper because that's all that's left

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People don't hate GT because it gives most of the heroes lackluster endings if you take it as canon. They hate it because it's unentertaining shit.

She died too soon

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>inb4
Goat: wh-whats this no matter how much absorb he isn't getting weaker!
Jiren: Takin other people's power isn't true strengthk ayylmao die

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It's the other way around, random basedposter with 2 translators is completely annihilating you and some spic with no sources and fake translations.
Cope

Shut the fuck up fag.

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damn, I can't believe nozawa is dead... r.i.p

I disagree. If it didn't have the name Dragon Ball attached to it, it would just be a sub-par 90s shounen series. People would rightfully tell you to watch YYH instead.

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pic related, right?

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I'm here for the memes only

おまたせ

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>tfw your plans got ruined by some toaster boy

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GT is hated because:
1) Animation suddenly became shit after some episodes
2) Villains, outside of Baby and the concept of the evil Dragons, are boring as fuck
3) Due to the animation having low budget, the fights were boring
4) Goku suddenly being a kid again is stupid

The idea of having it be a plot like DB in space sounds really comfy, but with how rushed it was and the low budget it had, it unfortunately dropped the ball. At least the ending was pretty wholesome.

good, let ss3 rot, it was one of the most garbage moments in the entire db, looks cringe, made vegeta look like a retard, took 5 minutes to activate and only jobbed

>made vegeta look like a retard,
he always looks like that

I think everyone can agree on this: The ending to GT deserved to be in a better series.

>made vegeta look like a retard
He does a fine job of that on his own.

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>?虫合イ本
Can anyone read the first kanji?

The new game

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The idea of having it be a plot like DB in space sounds really comfy, but with how rushed it was and the low budget it had, it unfortunately dropped the ball. At least the ending was pretty wholesome.
Would it had been better received, if the budget was higher?

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this one pisses me off the most

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Cute!

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>this much delusion

>samefag
sad...

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>doesn't know about post timers

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Also, GT was pretty much the "ONLY GOKU MATTERS" show. Had it have put other characters more in the spot light (like Oob, Gohan or Vegeta not instantly being destroyed when the new villain appears) it would've been more entertaining.
Of course. DB is one of those series where animation matters a lot as it gives off great fights with great choreography. It's why DBS threw off a huge amount of the audience with its first 10 episodes having absolute dogshit animation (one of the many reasons why DBS threads are also fucking garbage among other stuff).

cope, dumb vegetafag

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gay

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I enjoy it solely for the memes and the hype, it's Fairy Tail levels of crap though

t.foreheadlet

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If GT weren't a Dragon Ball series, it would just be a shoddier version of JoJo part 6.

>All those spots on Cell
Toriyama sure fucked up despite calling himself lazy

literally the only good thing from the entire series

it was worth it. cell's design is fucking perfect.

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So perfect it made him the weakest villain now!

if he came back, he would easily be the strongest.

I'm assuming it's already been ask, but if the namekians can assimilated so much, why didn't they do it against Frieza?

Nope, if he came back he'd be vored by a new villain. Just like he was in Heroes, just like he was in FighterZ.

>Goku needs chi to use instant transmission

wut

Has this always been a thing ?

I don't remember that being a thing

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>non canon shit
die

I was disappointed how the OP made GT look really promising only deliver a somewhat mediocre show. It's just wasted good ideas after wasted good ideas, it's pretty tragic.

I don't know how they fucked up so hard.

Who keeps ruining these

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same person who drew it

Well what happened
Did he have a stroke

You'd think after attempting to hype up Uub he'd be Goku's new sidekick or whatever but he's about as useful as Krillin

>tfw stronger than shitren and cuckly

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Nail was the LAST warrior of Namek, that leaves two options

A-Nail had no other warriors to assimilate
B-Nail already assimilated dozens warriors to defend the Elder, he just wasn't strong enough to beat Freeza.

I personally prefer B because that means current Piccolo has dozens namekians inside him forming the ultimate namek

Accept the truth. Cell isn't going to vore anyone anymore, Cell will be vored.

They never confirmed nor denied it until this chapter

why do GTfags always derail the thread
ok here it's why GT is considered bad, listen up
>Gotta find the Universal dragonballs all over the universe in less than a year of the planet where they used them, will explode!
>why tho
>a lot of shitty small stories later we get the first villain
>DR MYU! a super evil scientist that made a robot to kill goku...like in that other DBZ arc
>goku gets back to earth and fights an evil possesed Vegeta like in that DBZ arc
>goku gets his shit pushed in
BUT THEN!
>UUB APPEARS, after 10 years of training with goku, he's ready to-
>Jobs
>But then! he fuses with majin Buu becoming the strongest figh-
>Jobs again
>Goku ssj4 only good thing about GT, looks dumb but cool better than blue reskin at least
>Goku wins
>DR GERO and DR MYU meet in hell and somehow make a new android 17 to kill goku, like in DBZ
>somehow opens a portal between hell and earth
>kills kriling just cuz
>gets revived so whatever
>Dragon balls BREAK after so many wishes. only good idea of the series
>Uub jobs once more
>yeah he didn't win a single fight
and you know the rest, Goku and Vegeta SSJ4 fuse, gogeta does nothing but fuck around for 5 minutes and unfuses, goku spiritbombs and wins, dies. dragon balls go up gokus butt, the end. what
The End

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The OP is ironically the best animated part of GT. I don't really like to bash GT since I enjoyed it when I was a kid but I have to say that it's probably one of the only redeeming factors it has.
youtube.com/watch?v=DJcuDgVYjgI

how did dragon ball become popular?

DBZ

Yamamuro. He got old

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It made me happy

Don't reply to him, he's the Pan waifuspic that says the exact same phrases and avatarfags in almost every thread

Japs liked it, yuros and spics liked it too. Then DBZ aired in America and it hit more popularity too (for some reason OG DB wasn't aired in America up until around the late 90s and early 2000s)

>brain damage fish vs. angry fish
>1000 yard stare clown vs. smug evil clown
>down syndrome fox vs. fox sick of your shit
it's so sad

>toei can't even get the symbols on the furry god's neck thing right
christ

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Caulishit is trash and your taste is beyond awful. I hope you get that eye surgery you need so desperately.

my nigga Uub jobbed that hard? damn

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Looks like a generic slut you'd find in a pub

toyotaro is the ones on the right, correct?

Still less pathetic than Vegeta giving a big speech about how he doesn't need Kakarot and will protect the Earth on his own and is so sick of hearing everyone praise Kakarot, only for Goku to jump in and save him from Super 17.

I'm still mad.

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in other words it's bad like the cell arc and the buu arc, literally the same shit

you know what to do lads

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Well, you'd know, getting rejected by them so often.

Yes. In this pic we don't know if that specific Belmod is Toriyama's or Toyotaro's (since both designed him) but in pic it's a Belmod Toyo posted on his twitter

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Yeah. Even if the show was overall mediocre, the ending was a tear-jerker.

>pink muscles, not yellow
>blue belt, not red
I'm mad too

post 2-0s.

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>For instance, when I got a lot of "Don't kill Vegeta," I deliberately killed him. (laughs)
Toriyama is the fucking best.

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It's been awhile since I last watched Dragon ball GT. I'll watch it again.
Can you say at least one good thing about GT?

Alpha male goat DESTORYS libtard monkeys with FACTS and LOGIC

>Can you say at least one good thing about GT?
It ended.

You can "summarize" anything like this, negativefag.

Uub did more useful in GT than he ever did in Z/Super or whatever.

...

>Can you say at least one good thing about GT?
It ended.

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Name a worse beat up in the whole franchise
You fucking can't

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Yeah it ended, something Super is incpable of doing because of endless milking.

Enjoy your Super Saiyan Prince Evolution x50 form.

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Glad to see I'm not the only one.

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>when a character appears in more than 10 episodes he does more than when he appears in the last episode!
woah... so this is the power of GTards' brains

Well, duh. Uub was introduced in the last two episodes of DBZ.

for instance when one voice actor thought that his character would create a family, I made him into a cheater

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>implying I even approach them

>still kept his SS2 form all time
Not even close. Molo fodderized Gokek and Jobgeta so much Goku can't even teleport (something never seen before) after THREE days of rest

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i'm going to find you and stab you in the eye carlos

I love this man

All the GT openings are great, except for one.

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Vegeta getting fucked up by Kid Buu
Goku getting a whole in the chest by Piccolo
Goku getting slammed by Broly
If we go into non-canon area, then Turles fucking up Goku and OG Broly using Goku as a trampoline

Man that looks great
I wish Shintani was consistent with his "manga friendly" colors, he barely respected any manga color except first form Freeza's

Yep. It ended. That's a good thing.

>BUT SUPER-!
cope, GTspic.

So, I'll need to do is say "DON'T MAKE THE HUMANS RELEVANT" huh.

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>Can you say at least one good thing about GT?
Piccolo's GT death >>> Super (anime) death, even if the reason behind it was pretty nonsensical
youtube.com/watch?v=hKy-6zLcVjA
youtube.com/watch?v=IXiyrqyt9Ek

Vidal vs big ole roidy
Gohan vs Buutenks
Future Trunks vs Black and Zamasu

Out of all three of those only Vidal got her beatdown on screen while the others got beat up brutally off screen with Gohan being left a half dead quivering mess before Dende healed him and Future Trunks being rendered unconcious for three full days and at deaths door had it not been for the beans

I guess Goku vs Cooler and Everyone vs OG Broly counts a bit, Goku actually got punch drunk from the beating OG Broly was putting on him and while Cooler beat the life out of Goku for a bit he let off to let him transform into super saiyan then died

oh and 17 vs Imperfect Cell, it was brutal and brief and completely shut cocky 17's ass up

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>Toriyama: "Okay. Mr. Satan will save the universe again! (laughs)"

Piccolo fucking died from that? What the fuck?

OH NONONONONO

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See Nothing comes remotely close to what the goat did, not even counting non canon fights, the only thing worse than what he did to Goku and Vegeta is straight up killing them (which isn't interesting at all)

A week prior he got hurt pretty bad by Gohan and was dying from his wounds.
In spite of the fact that he can regenerate.
He says he wants to die so the Black Star Dragon Balls can't be used again, but is forced to get Goku out of Hell because Goku got himself trapped in there like an idiot (in spite of the fact that Goku has escaped from Hell before, relearned Instant Transmission two episodes prior, and Kibito Kai saved his sorry ass literally last arc).

GT ruins that scene just like it ruins everything else.

I would not complain about that to be honest, I like Mr Satan too.

Well, Demon King Piccolo straight up killed Goku temporarily IIRC

I think I love this because for once ME FIGHT NOW completely backfired on them they got their asses kicked and more people died because of it and now they've turned a genocider into an even stronger genocider AND instead of "Good, a worthy opponent" they can't even touch the guy or fight him at all because his energy steal completely fodderizes the need for battles especially the saiyan favorite of a drawn out one, Molo has to be finished fast with no time for enjoyment or Waku Waku's and unlike their precious opponents he can't even be goaded into "Fight me without your gimmick if you're so hot!" shit because he clearly has zero fucks to give about battle lust.

The Dragon Ball we deserve that Toei won't deliver.

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*AHEM

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No, I mean. Piccolo dying via a planet exploding makes sense. I just mean Super's death since I skipped the whole Resurrection F arc.

fucking hack, how it can be that it got popular, and it's not even kids watching it as intended but all manchildren

Holy shit this new arc reads just like fanfiction, why is the villain so fucking edgy?

Piccolo had to save Gohan's sorry ass from getting killed by Frieza.

Soulless.

Handsome.

>and it's not even kids watching it as intended but all manchildren
A majority of the audience watching was actually children. Even the Toonami showings (Super being the most-watched show on the block) skew heavily towards younger audiences.

I got your soul right here
Moro isn't even that edgy

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How many spics are ITT?

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I'm an Amerimutt

Imagine if this is all the Namekian fusion amounted to. They could still use this to bring Piccolo in and somehow be relevant, but no, instead it's just gone now. It'd be kind of funny.

Naoki Tate, of course. The worst animator.

Moro can't even travel in the space without a space ship. If they fight Jiren just needs to burst the planet and let moro die without oxygen.

>Poses, reactions and even composition is completely different
>hurr durr they're both headbutts so they're traced
Fucking imbecile. Also, people complain more about Toyo because he just copy-pastes from a far better artist. When Toriyama copies himself he just copies from the best.

BROS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON???

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I miss prime Toriyama

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It's funny because Toriyama didn't only trace at times, but copy and pasted panels in different chapters.

So expressive. On top of having the paneling down and being one of the best in conveying weight, Toriyama's exaggerated gesticulation (him having the soul of a cartoonist and all) make him stand above the vast majority of manga artists in Jump and even the medium in general.

>Cell arc
>Prime Toriyama
LOL, literally any page from the saiyan arc looks better

What part of
>when Toriyama copies from himself he copies from the best
You don't get? Show me a single memorable panel Toyotaco has actually drawn by himself without ripping off Toriyama.

Beerus

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Don't worry, Season 2 is going to have Shintani art.

there's one in this thread already:

gimmick villains need not apply

>That's your headcanon, Hakai is just a very destructive move (because that's literally the name), no more.
>accuses guy of headcanon
>writes down his own interpretation of hakai

HAHAHAH

t. heroeswatcher

no, it got cancelled because kids didn't want to watch this garbage, and collarly movie was all adults

retard

We need to go even further

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idk dude

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We don't know the actual limits of the move, that much is true. But that user affirming his headcanon as evidence is completely retarded.

I hope so.

From the Piccolo Daimao arc up until the Namek arc, DB reached its height

Easily the best and potentially most canon movie. Bojack was based.

Fancy that angle. And to think Hunterniggers and OPMfags actually and unironically think Togashit and Murata are in any way comparable to prime Tori.

>Kai only showed this shot for a frame or two
disgusting

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>be Vegeta, 50 foot ape with power level in the 200,000s
>job to an immobile carrot
lmao

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I wonder what his tongue feels like...

Oh YES!

Obviously.

>doesn't match-up with how they beat each other
How good of you to notice.

>Goku is rock
So Vegeta covered (and crushed) him? I recall filler having Frieza crush a rock against his favorite shota (all grown up). Sticking with canon, he was going to impale him (ending up piercing with a death beam, instead). Scissors would hold up better, which requires Vegeta to be Paper (as you say).

>make a "V"
Victory, eh?

>because of telekinesis
Amusing.

>Goku is paper
So the snowball technique was more crumpling him up than crushing him to dust. I see. Should have made a paper airplane out of him (chuck him away in front of his son and supposed best friend).

NOTE: Then again, Frieza is the one that got cut to pieces (like Paper).

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we postin manga now?

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Do you have any sources to back that up? Because the exceptionally high ratings, with a large number being among kids when it was airing, says otherwise.

The black armor thing happened (I think) three times for him. Maybe just twice. I remember the pads happening when he got wished to Earth (can't recall the case you note). Nappa got black'd, once that I can remember.

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>tfw DBM's art is far superior to tracetaro's shitty art

Yikes

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this is so bad i'm honestly getting mad at you just for posting it

Hey, Cell. You should ignore all the other moves you have and just Kamehameha all the time. There is no way that will end badly for you.

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Godhan always wins baby

>dbs fans
youtu.be/7o3ZMomtw-M

Togashi is capable of actually creating a story that isn’t catered to spics and brainlets unlike Toriyama.

But Moro isn't Black.

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I don't like Super overall, but I'd be a complete idiot or a lier if I said there was any other time when the franchise printed a Billion+ dollars a year, or that nostalgia-filled manchildren could sustain those numbers. Super and Heroes are popular with the kids, awful as they are.

What IQ do I need to enjoy Super?

2

Kekfla looks like literal shit.

Anime: Sub-80
Manga: 130+

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moro arc is filler until the anime comes back

>Moro
>edgy

In what way? Killing planets? Because he's not the first.

just check the viewership ratings, low all the way and crashed even harder during ToP

thicc

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>no more expressive vegeta
>just stoic edgemaster who makes the same caveman face at all times

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>animation
I don't remember the animation being worse than Super (then I don't try to re-view the hunt for the black star balls). I remember it lacking fight choreography (like Super), however. Boring fights are owed to this, I'd argue.

>boring villains
Mostly true. Even Baby wasn't well realized for his potential, frankly (this while ignoring that fucking shitty name).

>Kid Goku
Wasn't really a fan of this staying the case throughout (one saga was plenty). Doing it at all was pushing it (aside from him keeping his adult mind and power for the most part).

>wholesome ending
Better than EoZ (or Super), but that isn't saying much.

>Goku Time
Where Z took to keeping Goku out of the way (more so than DB proper) for others to shine (he wasn't developing as a character, anyway), GT just kept with him as if his interactions were going to make-up for it (stretched way too thin). Pan had to carry a lot of this (and Trunks was a disaster).

>Uub
Like Gohan, totally betrayed.

>Vegeta
Related to fusion fodder even after finally being allowed to get SS4 (a form that should be his birthright as the only pure-blood master of Oozaru).

Entirely sidelined only to job spectacularly against Baby (and pretty much disappear). Things were so lacking that DBGT:FB opted to just say Kid was good enough (no need for the reincarnation). Baby Vegeta was kept to just his ape appearance (giving tons of slots to different transformations rather than new characters as a big piss off). Giving the cast some substance, they used Z villains, but among the heroes that aren't Saiyans it was just Piccolo (surprising he even got this much of a break).

NOTE: Vegetto being in was amusing (like Gogeta in UB22). This being well before Super 17 and Omega, I'm sure (with the latter, you would expect SS4 Gogeta). The only SS4 was Goku in that entry.

>low all the way and crashed even harder during ToP
It literally never left the top 10 during it's entire run. The lowest rated episode (3.5) still came in 6th place

vegeta should've stayed dead after namek

They did Gohan wrong. It was bad enough with the Broly film he wasn't allowed to reach his potential (anime hadn't gotten to SS2 while the manga had), but then here they act like he hadn't gotten his head wrapped around it (needing a daddy bail-out pep talk). Then with Janemba his ultimate self should have been enough, but he was left to slap around fodder (along with the gag use of Gotenks against Hitler). Hildegarn gets to make a mockery of Gohan,but loses to Toei Fist (rubbish).

he couldn't go to hell in fusion reborn, but the Hirudegarn movie was just straight up Goku dick sucking, kinda like Super.

I don't recall anything like that from canon. Just needing to sense someone's ki to go to them. SB gathering, however, does take some amount of ki.

He became like Toriyama. Old and lazy.

>low
>consistently top 10
Are you an idiot?

>Togashi
>story
Holy fuck, my sides. Also, only a brainlet changes the subject instead of addressing the point. We were talking art retard.

>dragon ball
>barely enters top 10
you're a retard, aren't you? if they ressurected micheal jackson, he did a concert and 1000 people came, you would call it exceptionally high attendance? there's a reason the anime got cancelled, it had no popularity

Since everyone knows he's a pedo now yeah that would be high numbers.

Anyone have the new volume cover drawing? The one woth goku UI

>cancelled
What's the difference between the anime cancelling and the anime ending?

>exploding planet
They didn't do a good job setting this up. Or the existence of these alternative balls.

>filler adventures
Could have been done better (story of GT).

>to kill Goku
Was this guy really after him, too? I remember Baby being some manner of artificial Tuffle.

>Goku jobs to Vegeta's body
At least he gets to win later (not the real thing, but as close as he'll ever get *sort of like Copy Vegeta in Super*). Really, I feel like I'd have preferred Goku's body being taken for this ride (get the 'Black' thing out of the way early as a redux on Turles). Have Vegeta (natural predator of Goku) and the others need to deal with it.

Like Broly, if there is anyone the thing should be angry with, it is the royal family's sole survivor (ignoring half-breeds). Wasn't so much into taking over the Earthlings, wishing back the Tuffle world into orbit, etc., but whatever.

>jobbed out Uub
Not really sure why anything was expected of a human rebirth of Kid. Even with his full power, he would lack the abilities needed to really get traction. Gohan is vastly superior in power, but that's probably why he got nerfed.

>Super 17
Would be really difficult to set-up something as silly as this.

>balls can be corrupted
>nobody mentions this either
I hate this sort of thing (like RoSaT).

>does nothing
That's not what happened (as with Vegetto).

>SSJ4
>J
Change the pasta to note read like a retarded weeb living in the (distant) past.

The anime didn't get canceled. Dragon Ball was competing with and even outpacing One Piece, and new series like BNHA rarely if ever broke into the top 10, never once reaching Super's highs. You are a genuine retard if you think Super was a ratings failure.

Jesus Christ look at how utterly massive Goku's head is compared to Vegeta's

Yes you said the exact same thing last time.

>Not really sure why anything was expected of a human rebirth of Kid.
This reminds me that King Kai is probably the best mentor from a technical standpoint, I can't remember any other mentor that actually taught useful techniques to their students
By all means you'd think Goku would teach Uub the Kaioken/Spirit Bomb/IT if he was really going to help defend the Earth

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Any time, any place. The only real question? 3-0, when?

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>I-it had no popularity
>literally made about half of Toei's proffits for like three years in a row
>implying that wouldn't guarantee the series' continuity even if its ratings were actually crap instead of top 10
Do people like you come here because they enjoy roleplaying as retarded?

>>dragon ball
>>barely enters top 10
It never hit below 9th place and was most consistently in around 5th and 4th. It was also competing against the juggernauts like Sazae-san, Shin-chan, Detective Conan, and goddamn Pokemon. It was not by any definition a ratings failure.

>replying to mentally ill mangaspics
why

all version of buu count? wouldn't it just be 1-0 for the fat one and 0-0 for super and others he didn't face and kid 1-1 with their solo fight ending in his defeat while he helped goku's rematch to prevail to gain a victory through team effort or would it just be 1-0 as he was pretty much TKO'd though still helping to orchestrate the win?

Dont' forget that DBS Broly also made Toei a crap ton of money. It became the third hightest anime movie that gained cash, being only behind the first and second Pokemon Movies.

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anime didn't make jack shit, video games did, that's why heroes are sufficient for marketing

>was most consistently in around 5th and 4th
Average is actually 6th place, but you are right about the rest.

7-9th most of the time, few times lower, few times higher

Yet he only temporarily killed him through the villain rather than permanently with a loss to Goku as originally planned. He invented Frieza to perma-die in his place (only to have Vegeta's mutt kill steal on Goku). Guy has a funny way of showing he dislikes a character.

Gave him Bulma, too. Still not enough? Okay, have him beat Goku (again). Lifetime of sins? Killed 300 more people before blowing himself up? No big deal. He's helping with Kid, so he's all good with the magic wishing dragon. Got away with everything.

NOTE: I bet Goku put the good word in for him as an insurance policy. Chi-Chi would be furious if he let him just reincarnate.

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I love Beerus, but he might as well be taking another decades-long nap at this point.

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Super was most consistently in 7th place overall (56 episodes), second most consistently being 6th place (29 episodes), third 5th place (20 episodes). It was in 4th place (5 episodes) more than it was in 9th place (4 episodes), while it was in 3rd place the least (3 episodes).

Super was definitely most consistently in the 7th to 6th range overall, sometimes ahead of, sometimes behind One Piece. Super was definitely a ratings success.

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dumbass

Always so mad.

Enjoy your thread getting deleted retard

Lol I get that a lot for how rarely it happens.

lewd pan

>implying it won't end with Goku punching him really really hard in the end

Goku being crippled to the point he would never heal right without magical beans comes to mind.

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Gohan absolutely obliterate the Cell Jr's

That's from the Cell saga
Are you implying they should remake Z

I hate Shintani's faces. everything else is great, though.

Kai ruined everything for everyone except Dub watchers

there's a lot of people who still like the z dub more

Namekians being weak to whistling whas the single dubest non-canon idea ever introduced to the series
Imagine if Goku knew that during DB

Checked
Yeah and they have an IQ of 3.5

ironic shitposters

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Amazing. That's one of Tien's moves. I remember it. Do you suppose Yamcha might, too?

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>PL200K
His best would be 180K. He drained himself severely using the power ball. It wouldn't even be that high. The way Goku was talking, it wasn't like it was much more than KKx5 (40K) could handle. When he lost his tail, he was drained enough that the others were somewhat able to fight him, so placing him at around Nappa's level might not have been too far off the mark. They stopped giving PL updates, so it becomes guess work.

>jobs
He certainly took a hit to the eye. In retaliation:

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>couldn't go to Hell
There is nothing stopping Goku from using IT. Sense Gohan and go to him. He can sense King Kai from Earth. Don't know why this distance would make it hard to detect someone so much stronger (at least for the blip when he merc'd Frieza).

Goku was just as much of a shitty teacher as King Kai was (to everyone other than Goku). He didn't even mention KK or SB to Tien, Piccolo, Yamcha and the shitty Chinese Vampirelet. People that give him props for supposedly off-screen teaching Kamehameha to Gohan in RoSaT need a reality check (it is more likely Gohan just saw it and used his practice from learning a Masenko to instantly copy it like pretty much everyone else).

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>of 350
That good, eh?

>autistic filenames

My point is that comparing both fights were far too different to be considered similar
Vegeta lost because of his injured ego and pride, it didn’t help that he was weakened enough and indecisive to finish everyone.
Jiren lost because U7 (Goku, Freeza, and 17) kept throwing virtual pocket sand and kept their momentum for a ring KO. My point was to show how invalid was.

>edgy
>respectful to his underling even when he tried to run away
>instantly killed some mook instead of wasting time
>edgy

???

>too different to be similar
Both lost to a team effort where the war was considered. The battle against Goku was a win, but poor Jerry can't get a single bit of credit by the rules of the tournament (needed the RO for any of it to count).

>still loses
Didn't he? Guy even dicked around throughout (allowing his defeat). You can hardly give him a pass here. His power advantage was so silly he should have cleared the arena just by sending ki in all directions. He's a moron.

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