There's a lot of people nowadays that came to accept mediocrity. A stupid high amount. I feel like this is the reason why we have so many fucking shitshows every single season that no one cares about, flat out uninteresting and studios just make half-assed anime because they know it'll be accepted.
I have a friend that absolutely loves Tokyo Ghoul, yet, even though it has a shitty adaptation, refuses to read the manga. These people are spetacle viewers. They only watch things for the hell of it, as long as it has eye candy. A lot of these people are shedding a bad light in certain communities/fandoms (my TG friend for example, won't shut up about how great the anime is, even though it's hot garbage) and it simply irritates me that anime is no longer what it used to be (community/fans, not quality of anime itself).
I hate these people. I'm not against people liking stuff, but liking objectively bad stuff? You have to be sick. Miyazaki was right. Anime was a mistake.
Go ahead and hate me, I don't care. I fucking hate reading manga, and as a medium it can completely fuck off. I'd even prefer One Piece's shitty anime over the manga if the anime wasn't a year behind the manga.
Even those "medicore" anime you call pleb tier shit has great music, voice acting, bits of animation and more that can vastly improve the experience than a bunch of poorly translated, blurry, black and white scans where you can't even tell what's going on because of all kinds of lines and shit in 4 shades of grey
Joseph Brown
>Even those "medicore" anime you call pleb tier shit has great music It's easy to get someone who's well known in the anime industry to produce music for your show even if it's hot garbage, and even if you don't get anyone, plebs will fucking love anything thrown at them. not to mention most music in a lot of those shit shows have no symbolism to the show whatsoever, are either overplayed or just straight up annoying. >voice acting all japanese voice acting is great, this point is stupid. >bits of animation 2 minutes of good animation in 24 episodes isn't good, user. >that can vastly improve the experience than a bunch of poorly translated, blurry, black and white scans where you can't even tell what's going on because of all kinds of lines and shit in 4 shades of grey first, where are you even reading your scans for them to be "poorly translated" and "blurry"? second, do you not have a brain?
>all japanese voice acting is great, this point is stupid.
Fantastic, so this is an objective advantage anime has over manga. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Same goes for music, you can say "music doesn't always have symbolism" but I don't give a fuck about whatever point you're making because manga has NO music, so I don't give a fuck if every song didn't have some deep symbolic purpose because as long as it sounds good and doesn't ruin the mood, it's still an objective advantage over manga.
>but most animation is bad!
This I can give you, but I'm weird in that even shitty animation is entertaining for me, it can make me laugh or lighten the mood. As long as an important emotional scene isn't awfully done (which rarely is the case) then I don't care. Again, manga doesn't have animation so I'd take mediocre animation over zero animation. Again, I am sort of weird in this case, but I like seeing things animated. And I also think the "QUALITY" meme is way overblown. Most of that shit is people pausing frames to look for shit to poke fun at, and it's pretty rare in my case that it is noticably bad for a practical viewer. Meanwhile I can find plenty of hilariously bad drawn "QUALITY" manga panels even in Jojo, and there's no hiding that shit.
Alexander Adams
>all japanese voice acting is great You were going so well too.
Of course most of the "fans" are normal fags. Why do you think isekai and shounen shit is so big? The funny thing is people that watch jojo think they aren't normal fags
Xavier Jenkins
Who gives a shit man. If your friend gets any joy in watching Tokyo Ghoul or something that tickles his fancy then why the fuck do you want to piss on his parade?
Blake Howard
Anime isn't even eye candy anymore, it looks like shit now
Josiah Brooks
>Fantastic, so this is an objective advantage anime has over manga. Thanks for agreeing with me. >because manga has NO music no shit a medium has an "advatange" on something that literally cannot exist in another. are you retarded?
>it can make me laugh or lighten the mood if this is not the intention of the creator your experience is being compromised and you're an idiot for not realizing this.
>Meanwhile I can find plenty of hilariously bad drawn "QUALITY" manga panels even in Jojo bad drawn? i'd like to see you try. there's a difference between artistic and badly drawn, user. starting to think you really don't have a brain.
prove me wrong, thanks.
the only good isekai (in anime format) is log horizon, the rest is garbage. isekai doesn't translate well into anime and people should know this by now but they're fucking retards.
because it's bad and you have a superior product. yet you refuse to consume it. screams stupid in your face.
most shows, yes. there's a few out there that are good eyecandy, but they're nothing to scream home about.
>no shit a medium has an "advatange" on something that literally cannot exist in another. are you retarded?
>You can't prefer a medium to another when one has several objective advantages over the other. that's not fair!
Is this the only point you're trying to make, because you've completely lost me. I said a big part of preferring anime is music/voice acting, and you basically said "what a stupid point! of course voice acting is good!" That doesn't do anything to make me prefer manga.
>if this is not the intention of the creator your experience is being compromised and you're an idiot for not realizing this.
I don't give a fuck about the intention of a creator. If an adaptation is more entertaining to me, then it's my preferred adaptation, end of story. I'm not some stuck up purist who is going to "STOP HAVING FUN!" because something deviates from an author's intention. No one is perfect, and even some of humanity's most cherished artists admit their work isn't perfect.
>bad drawn? i'd like to see you try. there's a difference between artistic and badly drawn, user. starting to think you really don't have a brain.
I was just reading Jojolion yesterday and saw a couple of bad drawings of Tsurugi. And not just because of whacky poses. Like literally objectively badly drawn. Maybe I'll bother going through dozens of chapters just to win a Yea Forums argument, but I probably won't. You are helpless if you can't be convinced that it never happens though.
Lucas Clark
>prove me wrong, thanks See the image I posted kiddo. >mass replying
Cameron Rivera
And by no means am I implying this is a huge problem with Jojo and bad drawings are rampant or anything. I love Araki's artstyle, and he is incredibly consistent. I just prefer the manga and am pointing out that no manga is immune to QUALITY while people on Yea Forums only go out of their way to cherry pick individual frames from anime to feel better about their preferred manga medium
Josiah Bailey
*I just prefer the anime
Ryan Cook
Don't think I've ever seen an Yea Forums poster with consistently good taste.
Dominic Phillips
>That doesn't do anything to make me prefer manga. so the fact that i said bad animation not being the intent of the creator is compromising your experience, after the mangaka himself carefully crafted his work is null? you can have preferences, but you can't say that anime is the superior version of said work because of va and music alone.
>I don't give a fuck about the intention of a creator. great, then stick with netflix and eat the shit they give you. you are exactly what is wrong in the anime community
>I was just reading Jojolion >jojolion >badly drawn ok
can't see the problem kiddo. >mass replying yeah so what
Sebastian Jenkins
>you are exactly what is wrong in the anime community
Eh, I guess I am then. Manga still sucks.
Aaron Rivera
wrong but thanks for your take on it
Bentley Bailey
>community >fandom >associating yourself with retarded plebs with no taste
You only have yourself to blame OP. 90% of everything is shit, including anime.
Daniel Clark
to be honest, not my fault they choose to stick around and i'm forced to interact with them because they're close to my friends with ACTUAL good taste. i just have to deal with it.
>90% of everything is shit, including anime. you right
Sebastian Lewis
It's pointless, my dude. You're on a crusade to somehow instill decency on people who think Tokyo Ghoul wasn't the most pointless shit ever. They'll never learn.
The masses don't have high standards for anything - the point you're missing is that there's no objectively bad entertainment; everything can be "good" when you've set the bar low enough.
Henry Myers
I disagree with >everything can be "good" when you've set the bar low enough. I'd say, everything can be "good" when you've yet to experience actually GOOD entertainment. As someone who used to have shit taste, and eventually found good anime/manga, I can now differentiate those. I also do something many people don't, which is look at a show objectively and not through nostalgia-lens or "I loved it so it's instantly good". Most people don't fucking know how to do this.
Leo Sullivan
>JoJo is alright You're in no position to lecture anyone about shit taste or shitty fanbases.
Aaron Miller
>why do you like things I don't like >>>jojobronie But of course.
That might be a point of contention between us, honestly. I don't claim to be Mr.Anthropologist but all I know is that:
1 - I've shown my brother TTGL and yet he's still following Nanatsu no Tanzai
2 - My girlfriend used to watch Naruto as kid but fell sleep during Unlimited Blade Works.
Take it down a notch. Some people are not interested in what you're selling a.k.a separating good from bad.
Parker Butler
>Closet fag >Preaching about shit taste
Henry Cook
Why are people falling for this pasta?
Nicholas Russell
>Except for JoJo. >JoJo is alright. Every single time someone goes on some incoherent rant on Yea Forums related stuff they always follow it up with this
>where you can't even tell what's going on Funny you mentioned this. Take for example Tokyo Ghoul anime. It never adapted the second half of the first manga, then the sequel anime followed the part of the manga that wasn't adapted into the anime. Then the final season was a rushed mess that cut out entire plots and characters. It even cut out character introductions to new cast members, so you have no idea who these people are.
Not all anime series are this bad, but many cut out details or tone scenes down to be suitable for broadcast on TV. In many cases the anime would be considered censored compared to the manga.
i literally just made this up faggot don't call it pasta.
Brandon Flores
It's only an insult if you take it as such, so... must've hit pretty close then?
Brody Hill
whatever you think is right buddy
Oliver Johnson
>YouTube search "anime" >thousands of thousands of single episode of the week reviews >half of them saying "this waz the worst episode of xxx ever" I Fucking hate what anime has become.
Zachary Edwards
honestly? same.
Anthony Gonzalez
You should ignore everything about the western "anime community'' outside of Yea Forums.
Your overreaction is a newfag thing. You will stop caring about shit like that with time unless you are legitimately retarded.
Kayden Baker
i'll come back tomorrow though i have to.
Lucas Hernandez
Go back
Oliver Nelson
Stop caring about other people's opinions, and focus on your own. Trying to regulate other people's thought does nothing but bring down the quality of your own thoughts.
Gabriel Miller
they kinda do but they kinda don't but in the end they kinda do.
Joshua Thompson
>OP makes few good points here and there that mainly originate from his personal experience, which I'm sure of, many people here can relate to >last paragraph mentions JoJo, suddenly it goes >HURR YOU'RE A STUPID JOJOFAG, SO I'LL IGNORE THE REST
While I also think people who prefer shitty adaptations to manga are stupid, it's not like this is only in the anime community. There are tons of people that go and watch book adaptations or poor remakes in movies for instance. Don't let them make you mad. They're never going away so it's not worth hypothesizing about what might happen if they were gone. And they always existed (for instance people that only watched OVA adaptations of manga) yet good stuff was still made in the past.
You're not going to convince them to do anything. It's like talking to a brick wall. Just let them be.
Chase Smith
see
Aaron Wood
you're not the first, you will not be the last. enjoy getting old
Joseph Reyes
me desu
Hunter Lopez
I only watch feature length anime and old ones. I find myself picking up at least 1 anime per season.
Nolan Bell
first of all, see and second, even if I didn't like it, I wouldn't compare it to Rick and Morty of all things to compare it too. Come to thing of it, they couldn't be more different. I actually kind of want to applaud you for managing to stumble on that anecdote.
Joshua Perry
Listen user, people are going to like things that you don't like. That's just how it is. The sooner you stop giving a shit, the better.
Austin Taylor
i got nothing against people who like things that I don't like, hell, I don't like some stuff that I know is good, I just can't stand someone who likes something and THINKS THAT IT'S GOOD when it obviously isn't. especially when compared to the manga counterpart which is 90% of the time much better.
Jose Fisher
jojo fans are the rick and morty fans of anime theyre all faggots trying to shovel their shitty show down your throat
Jeremiah Ramirez
Anime having music and sound is an advantage. Until it is squandered and sounds nothing like you expected it too after reading.
See Berserk. Good: >Forces Bad: >CLANG I-guess: >Put your goddamn glasses on
And since JoJo is up in here. Imagine: >Daimond is Unbreakable manga >The song the baddie stand is named after plays in my head as I read. >Daimond is Unbreakable Anime >Cheap Trick doesn't play in the background when Cheap Trick appears. While I appreciate that JoJo is a special case when it comes to music (Prince famously threateded lawsuit), you can clearly an opportunity there for the music and sounds that was NOT taken up on. Only Via reading the Manga is the NON-existent music what I expect and want it to be... Funny that.
One of the biggest red flags is someone who is not willing to do effort to find anime on his, or read manga, or put forth any effort beyond going to Netflix/some 480p streaming site. If you're unwilling to invest effort to find things you will truly enjoy, you don't actually care about anime, you just want to fill your time with something.
Cameron Adams
this is very true. people who make no effort whatsoever are people who don't care at ALL.
>"I-it's ok for people to like and perpetuate mediocrity user" Fuck off nigger
Owen Wood
these people don't fucking learn man.
John White
>Tokyo Ghoul adaptation is garbage No, user, Tokyo Ghoul is garbage. I read the manga. All of it. Pure garbage. The anime just made it stink more. Although, one could argue, that by cutting a lot of content it made less garbage and so its inherently better. Either way, nice bait
Justin Gray
Anime isn't the only genre with this problem.
I think social media has a lot to do with this divide that makes people latch onto things and either hate it completely, or defend it like their life depends on it without a second thought or any critical thinking deciding if it's a good or bad thing they're defending.
This is why you can't have a real discussion anymore, because everyone takes any kind of critique personally which creates this situation.
Ethan Sullivan
TG was fine. People have told me re: was garbage and a shit ending to the series, which I believe to be true, so if you wanna call it garbage thanks to that, I can see why and respect that.
Aaron Richardson
Yep, it isn't, but I can't speak from the other mediums as I'm not into them as I am into anime. Social media definitely plays a factor here, and the fact taht everyone takes criiques personally is what's so irritating about all this.
Lucas Baker
Well it is kind of okay. It sucks for people that do actually want good quality but industries listen to the majority and if the majority of people have shit taste there's nothing you can really do about it. And again, this isn't something only anime has an issue with and it's not anything new. Every industry has just gotten better at knowing what will make money and cutting corners over the years.
Asher Smith
>shounenshitter opinion Too lazy to look for your post on google so I'll just assume you're a genuine retard.
Adam Barnes
go ahead, lookf or it on google.
Elijah Kelly
Can't be that garbage if it consistently sold well, only the last arc and ending was clearly rushed. I think you're exaggerating a bit, user.
Luis Martin
>it can't be bad if it sells well How do you think this makes any sense at all.
Joseph Reed
I'd agree that Re: was worse than og TG, but I still don't regard the original in high regards either. Still, both are parts of the same story, and when it comes to that, TG as a whole is bad.
Thats no metric at all. Popular doesn't mean good, or vice-versa.
Lincoln Long
There are many series who sold less and less while the story simultaneously got worse, this wasn't the case with TG however. I was just trying to point out that your "all of it was pure garbage" can't be true and that you're clearly exaggerating.
Brandon Wood
No point in replying to my post a second time, I already replied to you
Cooper Wilson
Thank you for confirming you're a genuine retard then. And then there's this salestard.
Joshua Walker
>And then there's this salestard. Now you replied a third time to the same post, what's wrong with you?
Kevin Scott
all good homie.
Oliver Wilson
>few good points >hurr there are too many anime and I don't like them why do they keep making it >my friend like this anime I dislike why can't he just read the manga >people only care about style why can't they accept that anime is AN ART (that's also why most anime is shit these days) >caring about "fandom" at fucking all >sucking Miyazaki's rotten dick >jojo is fine by the way please don't hate me jojobros >FEW GOOD POINTS HERE AND THERE WHICH MANY PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO Maybe if you're a gigantic casual newfag. Please kill yourself and take OP with you.
Jayden Kelly
>Thats no metric at all. Popular doesn't mean good, or vice-versa. Not him, but can you tell me why Bleach took a massive nosedive in sales during the later half of the story? People got bored of it, so you can't say "that's not a metric at all" when it's objectively a factor. I can imagine that TG wasn't your cup of tea, but you're just being ignorant right now.
Carter Flores
Careful there buddy, keep up with that level of schizophrenia and soon you'll be spamming Gridman threads.
>still not replying to my latest post >gridman boogieman out of nowhere >i-it wasn't me Yeah, you're just wasting my time kid.
Elijah Clark
Generally seems completely random to me since some things do legitimately get less popular when their quality drops while others keep going strong. Naruto stayed strong sales wise through its entire run as far as I know while like you said Bleach dropped a lot. It depends on the magazine too since stuff in Shonen Jump is much more likely to be considered failing than something in a smaller magazine even if their sales are the same. But popularity and quality don't have a 1:1 relationship where both go up or both go down at the same time.
Owen Richardson
>boogieman So you are him, oh wow. Is casual x shounenfag a crack pairing too?
Jayden James
I've never denied, that other side of the story can also be true like in your case with Naruto. But that user made the assumption that sales don't matter at all, when you can observe in many cases that the drop in writing goes hand in hand with its decline in sales.
Blake Barnes
What are you even talking about with your hundreds of buzzwords in every post? And who is "him"? Fuck off, schizo-kun.
Gavin Robinson
>no you're the schizo here Whatever, enjoy your hot opinions thread.
Carter Cox
>now he's implying that i'm the OP Unironically, seek help you mentally handicapped child. Last (you) that you'll get from me.
Daniel Perez
as OP, i also recommend that seeks help.
Robert Roberts
>"B-but why you can't let people have fun and like what they want!" Okay guys let's have no standards whatsoever because the majority is too stupid to know any better
jesus, if that were to happen i'd rather fucking kill myself.
Camden Williams
i swear if this is the same fag that went on a 20 page rant on how yu yu hakusho is the greatest anime of all time i'm going to be fucking laughing my ass off.
Nolan Green
op here, yu yu hakusho is great. greatest anime of all time? no.
Anthony Williams
No one is telling you to stop having standards for yourself if that's what you want. But just to stop getting pointlessly angry at other people liking things you don't like, it doesn't do any good to anyone.
Jacob Jones
Dub Goku is pure shit and voiced by absolute crybaby faggot.
This basically sums up why the MCU and most stuff on Netflix is popular
Camden Ortiz
Lowest of low iqs. I don’t hate you I just pity your shit taste and lack of any intellect
Henry White
>i got nothing against people who like things that I don't like >BUT HOW COULD THEY LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE?! While I do get what you're saying, this is still what it boils down too. Sure, the source is usually better. But some people will always be animeonlies, no matter how much the source readers tell them the adaptation is shit. They just prefer seeing things in anime form
you know very well i didn't mean >>BUT HOW COULD THEY LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE?! i specified that >I just can't stand someone who likes something and THINKS THAT IT'S GOOD when it obviously isn't obviously i know there are people who are animeonlies, and I got nothign wrong with that, I'm just not gonna stand still when someone says "i enjoy X and it's AMAZING" when it clearly isn't.
Oliver Fisher
Unironically this.
I finally started reading the manga and am on part 7 atm. Having a blast. The fact they have quality color scans for everything is even better
Nothing is forcing you to interact with people you don't want to interact with.
Benjamin Kelly
You are lierally only saying that because of the Vic scandal and the fact that Trump won the election so Yea Forums has to be majority right wing because you want to fit in with majority of the idiots on this site.
I highly HIGHLY doubt you love Granny Nozawa's voice as Goku/Gohan/Goten over Sean's ironic weeb or not. You're only calling him a crybaby over the Vic Scandal too.
John Howard
I'm not seeing the difference. Are you not getting mad at someone for liking something you feel is shit?
Isaac Hughes
>hurr there are too many anime and I don't like them why do they keep making it But that's true? Why split animators and directors into a thousand studios that'll adapt garbage LNs and concepts into barely animated TV shit catering to the nichest audience? Why won't more studio aim to be like Kyoani or Madhouse and to have quality show and/or a broader appeal and expand the scope of the infamously incestuous medium that is anime?
Dub Goku is objectively bad because it completely changes the way the character sounds. It's ultimately no different from bad translation practices. Sure, you can't make a perfect match, but there was no attempt here, and thus, the original vision was ruined.
Adam Hughes
not something "i feel is shit", but something that is, objectively, shit. not just by me, but by the majority of people. and it's not for them liking it, it's for them saying it's GOOD and ignoring everything told to them about it being bad. i have no problems if someone tells me that THEY ENJOY an anime but knows it's not the best. and I don't have any problems because that's what I do if I like something that's not good. it's not hard to fucking get, man.
Grayson Thompson
Is this a copypasta? I don't really come here much anymore... I was a heavy user here 10 years ago and people had the same complaints. I believe it's now possible for MORE shit to be churned out than ever before, but I don't know that the percentage of shit has really changed.
It's funny watching shows from the 70s - 90s because you can see the stuff they were marketing (if you're watching on DVD or there's commercials in the stream). Some of the stuff they were marketing in the US is clearly so crappy and then you have to think - that's actually the "good" stuff they were trying to sell. Imagine all the bucketloads of garbage.
And that's how we got gems like Odin Photon Phaser Whateverthefuck.
Jace Perry
sorry but see .
Cameron Baker
based.
Adrian Robinson
It has a big following so no one can really criticize without being in danger.
Landon Collins
not
James Adams
This
Gavin Price
>it's for them saying it's GOOD and ignoring everything told to them about it being bad This is a literal casual retard you are describing. Everyone thought there first few anime were the best thing ever until they stopped being a casual and actually saw some good shit
Wyatt Morales
except it's not a "casual retard", it's people who actually have watched more than 2 anime and STILL ignore it when people say that a certain anime is bad.
Owen White
Anyone who has seen less then 100 anime is a casual retard
Jace Diaz
Tori had no spine while writing Z, and basically listened to what anyone said. His vision was making money, and didn't care that the anime changed Goku.
Blake Lee
you think i was being serious when i said 2? i was making a point, shithead. do you think everyone who saw over 100 anime has instantly good taste? it doesn't work like that.
Adam Brown
You just want to go back to the days where you'd get laughed at and shoved into a locker for liking anime. Admit it.
Cameron Lee
I just stopped caring honestly. Unless they're being obnoxious they're free to eat and praise whatever garbage they want as far as I'm concerned. If someone starts spouting shit like FAIRY TAIL IS THE BEST ANIME EVAR while shitting on actual good anime, then maybe I'll be inclined to call them an idiot
Levi Foster
I would have to agree with you, entirely. However... anime as a medium, does have it's merits. Animation, in and of itself, is pretty good. (as long as your anime HAS animation, anyway and isn't a colored slideshow with flapping mouths) Anime has a lot more substance to it, but sadly most of the time the rest of the good things make the animation and art mediocre compared to manga. And cutting anything out of an adaptation is always a sin. Anime ORIGINALS, on the other hand, are interesting. Usually, when an anime original is made, the artstyle and story are, well, original, and there's not really a source material to compare it to. You could compare it to manga similar to it, but otherwise there's not much you can do to compare it to anything, which is why these tend to be more well liked series. Same with VN/LN adaptations, I think. There's little art to compare it to other than character illustrations, so it's basically original. All things considered, you are correct, but I think there are some flaws in your argument that anime as a whole has become shit. Many, many companies put effort into the animation, and really it's all worth it for anime original stuff in my opinion.
Justin Kelly
Don't mind the fans, they're mostly just a bunch of smart-ass 14 year-olds.
Daniel Richardson
Obviously anime as a medium has its merits, I never denied that. The fact that a manga gets an anime adaptation to begin with is HUGE, but people shouldn't be blind simply because it's their prefered or favorite medium. An adaptation is great and all, but there's times where it has to sacrifice either visually or in content, and THAT is not the experience intended by the author to begin with. >Anime Originals The funny thing about anime originals is that, when (and if) they're adaptated into another medium (manga, in this case), it usually doesn't translate well. See the Cowboy Bebop manga, or the KILL la KILL manga. But yes, normally, you can't compare it 1:1 with anything, thus, they're generally liked, or just dismissed, never argued or discussed in terms of "fidelity". VN/LN I feel is completely different. You don't have 1:1 scenes to adapt, but you have a lot of descriptive detail that is important. Baccano and Durarara!! are both great, but they lack a bit in that detail department. Same goes for Steins;Gate, great adaptation, but still lacking. I think the reason those are generally accepted though, is because there's a fewer amount of people who read VN/LN's (compared to the ones that watch anime, obviously, because people who read VN/LN's is still huge) >All things considered, you are correct, but I think there are some flaws in your argument that anime as a whole has become shit. Not anime as a whole, but most anime. There are studios that 100% put effort in the animation, David Productions (JoJo) being one of them, but there's also alot of studios that take shortcuts in the animation department or in content simply because "they can" (Studio Pierrot and Tokyo Ghoul are a great example). >and really it's all worth it for anime original stuff in my opinion. I agree to a degree, I still love some of the original stuff that's put out there. Is it the best? No. Is it enjoyable? Definitely.
Christian Lee
Jojo is the "im not like the other girls" of anime
Tyler Rodriguez
Manga adaptations are weird because it seems like the mangaka is just given like a summary of what the anime's going to be about and then allowed to do whatever they want. This often results in weird things happening with it. I think manga adaptations often start coming out before the anime starts so that could be part of the reason that happens. But anime adaptations almost always either have some amount of final content to work with, or an entire finished manga to adapt. I don't want to say 1:1 adaptations should be preferred because there are anime I like that I either like as much as the manga while it went its own way or maybe even more, though the latter I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Also I think people would disagree with you that DP puts a lot of effort into animation in Jojo. They very often prefer having still frames for famous moments rather than actually animating things. They do put a lot of care into the adaptation even if it doesn't always pay off but I think in some regards they're afraid to do their own thing, but in other regards they toss shit out the window.
Hudson Cooper
Also I think people would disagree with you that DP puts a lot of effort into animation in Jojo. I realize after reading what I just said that the word "animating" wasn't what I wanted, but yes that they care for what they're adapting. But I don't think that it's bad that they sometimes/often prefer having recognizable/iconic stills. Berserk 97 did this a lot, it often used stills where it needed to. Granted, they were different, and in the late 90's this was also used to help save actual animation for what needed to happen, but I feel like both Berserk 97 and JoJo benefit from these stills. Might just be me though.
Easton Torres
I meant to >Also I think people would disagree with you that DP puts a lot of effort into animation in Jojo
Aaron Thomas
I also miss when Anime fans had a sense of "taste".
It feels like some people will swallow any garbage shoveled our way these days.
Luis Jackson
false sense of superiority
Adam Gomez
This is mostly because of (i don't know if it has a name so I'll just call it this) binge culture. Netflix, other streaming services and even YouTube made it so everyone is used to just eat up any garbage, and people bought into it. I know people who just open Netflix and just because Netflix recomended them one show, they'll watch it. Simply because of this. It's fucking stupid.
Jonathan Bell
I get it if you're talking about how Netflix only has shitty shows. But how is this different from using some other method to find a show? If they watch these garbage shows and they like it, they will keep watching, regardless of how the content is delivered. The one that makes the choice to continue watching is still them. The only difference here is how they find out about that content.
John Cox
Animes been trash since the mid 90s dude. The stuff considered good thats actually good on a level you could be pretentious about is a very small fraction of shows and many of them have over time lost their credibility by being watched by myriads of typical dumb anime fans who get recommended it that won’t get it causing it to reach meme status in many cases. Furthermore your typical anime fan you talk to in the real world is either a normalfag or that kind of outsider guy that has opened up a little and in either case they typically just want to talk about watching whatever new interesting show has come out in the past few seasons, or the newest episode of whatever long running shonen they watch.
