Current Big Three

Say hello to current "Big Three"
Only in this day and age "Big" stands more for quality then popularity.

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Jojo part 5 ended 20 years ago

HxH is on eternal hiatus
One Piece is for kids and manchildren
JoJo is seinen

Nice big three you got there

>hxh
>quality
And Jojo is from a different Magazine .
Current Big 3 are One Piece / Black Clover / Dragon Ball super

Well I used it as a general representation of all of JoJo, which is still relevant thanks to the anime adaptations.

>Dragon Ball Super
>Black Clover

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You may not like it but this is what peak shounen looks like.

>wan piss
>quality

kek, was waiting for a pseud

>australia banned from Yea Forums
>chad shitposting immediately grinds to a halt
>this is the only posts about hxh in the last few days
of course there are all fucking casuals from off site that couldn't work a vpn

also to actually take this bait it's because quality is subjective and HxH constantly has shit like pic related that gets published in jump. You can call HxH many things but the "highest in quality" isn't one of them

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>forgetting Kingdom
Rude. I agree though.

You posted this in few other threads but no one gave you a (you) lol

Agreed that the manga is shit but anime does a great job of purifying the shit and the nuggets of quality in hxh get turned into something new and kino.

I'm not saying these are perfect, just the best of the relevant ones. One Piece anime adaptation is hot garbage but the manga is easily peak conventional shounen.

well which anime are you talking about,'99 or '11?

I think both are good in different ways. The backgrounds, art, and some scenes that use detail and dramatic lighting/shadows are really well executed in '99 while motion itself looks much better in '11 at the cost of detail and some shadows.

fuck you user, don't shit on something that clearly you don't even read
>HxH constantly has shit like pic related
this is the proof that you have never put your eyes on the scans in the last 4 years: the quality has never been that high since the start of the manga.
Pic related is the final version of a draw made during the worst period for Togashi's health. This image has more than 10 year. 10 fucking years. get your facts straight fag if you want to prove something.

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this was still published in jump. You can't say HxH is known for quality when this is what gets published.

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I'm the user defending hxh but this still looks pretty weak drawing of a hand. You gotta come to terms with the fact that the strength of hxh is far away from it's art.

That final "improvement" of the page is still really fucking bad. It's the chicken/turkey page all over again

>this was still published in jump.
have you some kind of brain damage? Here another pic from 10 fucking years ago, and as I said, that was the worst periodo of all for Togashi. Pic realted whows how the quality than was improved in the volume version.

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Not him but this one actually improved for a change.

I mean you can post the "touched up" versions all you want. It still doesn't change the fact that this thread is arguing that the big 3 should be determined in terms of quality

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Togashi is very good at drawing hands though
that's the exception, not the rule

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Up until Part 7, Jojo is shonen.

I normally post the same arguments you use to trigger hunterfags but this isn't a hunterfag thread and I gotta be honest.

There are great merits to Togashi's writing style that get to shine in anime adaptations more then in his own manga. That's just observable fact, and the effect in the anime is top notch.

>australia banned from Yea Forums
?

based real hunterfriends

I agree the '99 animation is fucking kino, it's one of my favorite animes alone because of that. Not baiting though and just wondering, what did you think of '11's animation?

kek if I have to make a decision based on the quality, I would rather prefer putting my money on Togashi (quality>quantity), not on Oda (quantity>quality)

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I never mentioned Oda, why are you bringing One Piece into this? I mean I can shitpost too if you want

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does this count?

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>page
one panel = the entire page
since when?
my dear retarded, here the entire page

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>pic

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The shitty doodles have charm. Fuck you.

>niggers still trying to form a "new" big three

I already put forward my opinion here: I'll just add that I think '99 is a better adaptation but it's also a cocktease because of it's ending before chimera arc so in general I enjoyed more out of '11 just because it adapts more of the manga.

OPfags gotta start making more excellent content like this, huntard "chads" need to be put in their place

who was the first to post a one piece page (even if it was fake)?
ah, and here is your stinky CHAD shitposter

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Based GODA risking his hygiene to bring us weekly Wan Piss content. Butthurt hunterfags can't even get a chapter this year

While I enjoy all three series I would argue against them as a "big three".

>One piece's role in relation to the new big 3 is more analogous to dragon ball's relation to the original. Long running hugely popular juggernaut from a previous era that will still be popular after the big three has ran its course.

>HxH is also too old- its probably more comparable to something like YYH. The big 3 is based on both anime and manga, and the anime isn't ongoing.

>Jojo is probably too graphic

god imagine worshiping so much Oda's smelly cock

>hygiene

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How about instead of turning the entire thread into a HxH thread we post ACTUAL quality in this thread.

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You're the only one bringing up stinky cocks, gayboy. You trying to entice me, fag?

>30 years ago

I'm very much for that.

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no i'm just assblasting you my dear retarded

>OPM
>quality
It had a strong start but it fell off quickly. Having a long running parody of a few very specific and narrow subjects was conceptually doomed to fail despite the good execution.

Kek, from a thrid party perspective this conversation is taking a weird but an intersting turn.

>hur hurr i troll u
Lmao @your life

Yeah but part 8 is seinen. It's OP's fault for using a pic from the anime.

Sure, blame me for whatever you autistically get to nitpick like a fag.

Holy shit, why do retards still post these early drawings when Togashi has already fixed them in the final volume release? Look at the difference, stop baiting with 10 years old pages.

the three best long running shounen of all time.

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The discussion was about the big 3. So yeah those decade old pages were relevant.

The two big ISP for Aus banned a bunch of websites, don't exactly know why tho.

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Have you read the news

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it's like an inside joke at this point. some anons just can't grasp irony

OP here, HxH doesn't have deeper philosophy then One Piece, it just pretends it does. Only pseuds fall for that meme.

You clearly don't understand what good lines in artwork mean. It means the amount of lines used to draw something. The less the artist uses, the better. Also the form, the inking, the trajectory, the symmetry of each line. Togashi does that masterfully.
Murata uses CGI. He does that for background, buildings, fillings and coloring. Go ask a drawfag or someone who understands about manga art. You don't know anything about artwork and you just like overdetailed CGI shit.
His art is souless and it will never match the likes of Togashi. Notice that I am only talking about artwork, and I'm not going to use the paneling, choreography and overall composition in my argument; otherwise that would be close to bullying.

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Something about a Mosque getting shot? Wasn't that in New Zealand tho or someshit

>look mom I posted it again

ITT: Hunterchads schooling shounenfags

I don't know who is the best, but I know who has the most obnoxious fanbase

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>The less lines the artist uses, the better.

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>completely missing the point of my post
sasuga opmfag

>philosophy
kek a bunch of ridiculous characters who constantly emit autistic noises and are totally flanderized since ts, now can convey philosophy? Good one user!

>we almost got a good hxh discussion
>stupid autistic off site crossposters have to make every thread a fucking Yea Forums-fest with their shitposting because they can't actually have a fucking argument without hiding behind irony

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From my experience hunterfags are the worst, and stay in containment threads the least. Probably cause they're bored to shit/

Who are you quoting?

Togashi is a master of fundamentals, paneling and creating memorable page composition. The man is a genius who can set up his scenes from interesting pov angles that are able to put in contrast what each scene is exactly trying to portray. As an example, I'll direct you to this page which is one my favorites of Togashi's magnum opus. Let me break it down for you:

The head shot of Gon breaks the boundaries of the first panel, which already takes up almost the entire first half of the page, making him feel imposing and setting the tone. His pointing hand is aimed right at the eyes of the reader and it seems to hover above the page, making it feel close and uncomfortable.
The reactions to his words are framed around the hand, small and unimportant. The final panel is a shot of the enemy's feet, giving the idea that they're looking down in defeat and submission.

Overall I think, this should give many authors and artists a textbook example of "paneling done right".

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>Try to have good discussion in a shitposting thread

Nigga you retarded

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>From my experience
I have the proof (the pic) of what I am saying
you have just your word
so nope

God, OPfags are really annoying.

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Funny because you could fill a book of hunterfag posts in other shounen threads. You're like the smashfags of Yea Forums, just smelly and unwanted

I've read over 400 manga and I've never seen someone use panel composition, coreography and POVs so masterfully like Togashi. His simplistic art is perfect to focus the attention of the reader on the details of the story and the emotions he's trying to portray.

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prove it or didn't happen
you are just wasting my time

Hxh=Rick and Morty

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>proof
I didn't realize you were a tourist
>>>/reddit/

Based Hunterchads win once again, baby!

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exactly this. The only way people can shit on hxh is by cherry picking panels from when he was injured. Togashi easily has some of the greatest art of all time, it's not even a fucking contest. But the average shonen shiteater has no idea about panel composition, choreography and POV.

that's the whole reason chadposting was invented. Because we know it's a waste of time even to try to explain it to those low IQ faggots so we just have fun toying with them

can I underline the fact that that pic is just a drop in a ocean?

yes yes keep changing the subject, maybe with the next one things will go better

see

The thing with philosophy in One Piece is you actually have to analize it for it to be visible. You have to, you know, think and observe. HxH fans that stay in containment too long and don't read good literature get the impression that if a philosopher is not being namedropped then there's no philosophy. Meanwhile a good writer like Oda (not that Togashi isn't good, he's just more experimental) weaves the philosophy into the worldbuilding.

For example in CAA you've got the issue of subjective morality presented by humanity making contact with a species that treats humanity like humanity treats cattle. It's highlighted in expostition very clearly, with basically a slideshow about it.

Meanwhile in One Piece the same issue is presented in a subtle way in the very conflict between Marines, Straw Hat and Blackbeard. Both Straw Hat and Blackbeard just want to be free, they even have the same lines, and both Blackbeard and Straw Hat took out many famous pirates on their to the top, the only reason why Blackbeard is considered a villain is because he lead to Luffy's brother being arrested. Not even killed, cause that was up to marines to decide, now look at how many pirates were arrested, their ships sunk and their lives ruined because of Luffy. Every pirate does this, the cruel battle for survival is bread and butter in One Piece and the villain is the one who loses, and the hero the one who makes it to the top of the foodchain and gets to define the terms.

See the same concept but presented in a subtle way, not beaten into the reader. And each arc goes on to explore things much more nuanced and difficult then this.

If it wasn't for those pages and the eternal hiatus HxH would be more popular. It used to be more popular than Naruto in my country.

Seems to me like you are the autist. Make a retarded mistake that every retard have to notice, and the start screaming at others, unable to accept that you were a retard in the first place.

Based

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>is simplistic art is perfect to focus the attention of the reader on the details of the story and the emotions he's trying to portray.

The pic you posted says something completely different but okay.

Aren't the tank redraws done by his wife?

This.

>average hunter"""""""""""""""""”chad""""""""""""""""""""" denial
just lurk moar, idiot

K

>Aren't the tank redraws done by his wife?
Where's your proof? Oh wait, you have no proof because they're drawn by Togashi.

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nope, it's a myth
Takeuchi worked as assistant just for the first volume

>One piece is and always will be one of the big three
Feels good man

Quantity? Yes.
Quality? No way

said by someone who use the
>From my experience
FUCKING KEK

One Piece is barely good. Like what did One Piece have that's great? One large battle that people keep jerking off to? That really wasn't all that great either in retrospect.

It also feels like all the One Piece characters get backstories written retroactively, and there really isn't anything planned. You guys just fall for it being planned when it's all retroactive backstory. For example Sanji, do you really think when he was introduced the author had any of the Germa shit in mind? No. No he didn't.

With HxH it feels like everything is intentional and all the backstories of the characters are known as soon as they're introduced, and the author isn't just retroactively trying to make them flow within the story.

OP is also bloated with shallow story lines and characters that are only there to extend the story so it can be milked for more money. There is so much garbage piled over the half decent story that it just makes it so tedious to go through.

HxH has a focused tight story throughout every arc and as a whole, and still manages to have an expansive world full of adventure. I won't say HxH's story is better because Togashi isn't trying to milk it endlessly, because that would be insulting the vast difference in writing talent between Togashi and Oda. Though I'm sure it plays a role.

Why do you guys like One Piece so much? It's the Mcdonalds equivalent of manga.

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based

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>experience
And a fact, dipshit, just look at this thread right now, based moron

>pasta
respond to him faggot

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There is no Big 3, there is only Big 1, it has always been One piece and two other random faggots

HxH is good, but it is not published frequent enough to be one of the Big 3. It belongs in the 'Classic' class with Berserk

Ok man, I can feel your sorrow and jealousy from here.

>HxH
Holy shit, how big of a delusion fagot do you have to be think this is big? When was the last time the main character he showed up in the manga? He left because even he knew it was shit.

>look at this thread right now
I see just CHADS who post reasonable evidence of the superiority of HXH (they are giving explanation if you can read)
OH! And look here who have I just found in this thread: it's him! it's the autistic OP poster!
GOD imagine being so assblasted!

cringe sweetie

Are you gonna cope or you gonna seethe?

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Hey Morty UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP there's actually a shonen series that gets jackoff ff ffed by their rabidfans just like UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP ours, h-high IQ, Morty !UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP based Hunter x Hunter UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP

cringe

the mental breakdown is already kicking in, based hunterbros

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holy shit so based I'm actually tearing up

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Are you telling me that Togashi, the same Togashi who'd submit sub-sketch tier drawings for Jump and fills 90% of a page with speech bubbles, is the guy remaking entire chapters for the tankobons?

He looks like a shitposter. Wanpissfags could care less about shonen wars as they happily sit in their shit

He has 6 assisstants

>I see just CHADS who post reasonable evidence of the superiority of HXH

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Coping Mechanism: ACTIVATED

Thank god I am a hunterchad

keep coping sweetie

what did he mean by this, bros?

Why does Yea Forums fear the hunter effect?

it feels so good

Thank god that I took the hunterpill

cringe

Hunterchadposting is pretty genius if you think about it.

If you own the over the top pretentious attitude it just comes across as insincere so it can't really be used as an insult against you, and at the same time you can dump copypasta after copypasta of stuff taken straight from some anime snob's essay. You always win with copypastas, if people respond you just immediately post another long ass pasta that vaguely adresses their counterpoints and introduces a bunch of new arguments and you can do it until they realize they're making an ass out of themselves arguing alone. Not to mention that a lot of them are usually pretty well put together and require an effort to refute convincingly and you actually bring up some valid points to praise your series in either case. If they reply, you win. If they don't, you win too. You always have the psychological advantage.

You can shitpost whatever you want and you know you'll get the voiced approval of some other shitposters while they scorn those who respond negatively, you pretty much always have numbers with you because no one else voices their opinion like that. The approval can be ironic when you make some shitty joke or cringy meme or sincere when you actually post something of worth, it works in both cases. Even though it's obviously meaningless, I think it plays on the psychology of whoever is arguing against you because you often see posters get increasingly worked up the more this happens. It's the sole purpose of those based/cringe posts.

I honestly can't see a way to beat it except ignore it long enough for chadposters to get tired of it, but there is ALWAYS someone to take the bait and spark up some shit. Personally I think it can be pretty funny if done right but it can get old fast. Hunterchadposting is a fine balance between ironic shitposting and sincere opinions and it's pretty meta as well, I think in a way you could consider it a deconstruction of shitposting. It's pure genius.

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youtu.be/pUDUK-yvwQs

Today I will remind them

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Big Three is not a term that can be applied today, you fucking newfag retards. Big 3 was a term coined 2 decades ago for the series that were supposed to attain Dragon Ball levels of popularity, which they did (Naruto, OP, Bleach).
If we're talking about biggest, most quality shonen in the current year, it's Shingeki no Kyojin, JJBA, and OP (not because its quality, more like history).

>posting a debunked falseflag video
cringe

>literally a false flag

Keep coping, son

>son
sweetie

well you have your proof right there>inb4 "you dont understand the philosophy"
you aint gonna get me with that pasta

>the falseflaggers could gather only 6 voices
lmao

First of all it's the best conventional shounen. If you enjoy the "shounen journey of self improvement" then One Piece does it best with up to 9-10 characters constantly growing and improving throught their journey. It's also a good mix between a nip shounen and a western "hero's journey". So that is the basic appeal.

For quality you have to look into the art and worldbuilding. The art is cartoonish but perfect for a weekle release schedule, it's expressive, fluid, makes everything outlandish seem acceptable because of it's retro-american cartoon aesthetic.

And of course there's worldbuilding and characters. Like you said: "HxH has a focused tight story throughout every arc" which is true. Well that's actually at the cost of the whole world being completely pretextual in it's nature. Sure, it has potential for adventure but the world doesn't feel alive, it's more like it's alive when you're looking at it, but if you turn away it stands still.

In One Piece the world is full of parallel as well as historical action and events, large part of the plot is about the exploration and learning it's secret history which makes the plot and characts tightly connected to the world they live in.

Also Togashi uses characters to explore some ideas and make experiments. For example "what would happen if cell came to be when goku was still a pretty weak child". Meanwhile in One Piece characters are first and foremost emotionally and psychologically fleshed out before they're dropped into the world to play they part in the plot. It's a different school of writing:
Oda: characters are created before their scenes just happen
Togashi: plot is created before the characters play out their scenes
Both have their own merits. Oda's make the story more enticing and interesting on a scene to scene basis while Togashi makes for great build-ups and kino scenes at the end of the build ups.

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Keep shilling your video and being obsessed with hunterchads, sweetheart.
desuarchive.org/a/search/text/pUDUK-yvwQs/

why are you chads so insecure about a single video

Why are you keep spamming your falseflag video?

thats not good art though. looks like the characters are floating and dont belong there.

When Oda can manage to move away from his predictable way of telling stories (somebody needs help on an island, the Strawhats help them by defeating the villains from the weakest to the strongest), maybe then, and only then he'll be as good storyteller as Togashi.

HXH is one of the very, very few shounen jump comics that has consistently managed to surprise its readers. (Who the hell could predict ANYTHING during the Genei Ryodan arc?) Oda isn't on par as a storyteller, he drags on his arcs too much, and his way of making and ending fights is becoming too tiresome, and it got predictable during Arabasta.

Be quiet, pleb.

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>HxH
Hiatus X Hiatus is light novel at this point.

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Look at the composition of this page and Togashi's smooth paneling, the close-up shot to Kurapika's right hand brings more momentum into this.

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A lot of detail doesn't make it good. A lack of detail can make art even better. Look at Kubo. He's shit at stroytelling but his art blows most things in Jump, including HxH, out of the water effortlessly.

>I need pictures to read
why did I even come to this site

I was born a chad and I will die as one

I did not spam that video I just posted it, tard

Does too many words hurt you brain, toddler-kun?

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>posting it every thread but only once so it's not spam
amusing

kek, get a load of this fag

Alright user, but there's much more to quality of storytelling then surprise. I respect your opinion but look at Lord of The Rings. You know that they're going to go to another kingdom and meddle with it's politics, meet the kingdom's leader and learn the lore and then move on to another one until the ring is destroyed.

So you can see the shape of the "narrative skeleton" but the lore, the journey, the parrallels to real world issues in the worldbuilding, the questions and issues they touch on through metaphorical elements make it a kino journey with amazing, and subtle storytelling that mostly doesn't rely on surprises but the slowly introduced worldbuilding.

One Piece is basically that but with a different, "fun" atmosphere and aesthetic and deep in the "shounen" genre.

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you need pictures in manga

Why did Bleach get axed then?

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How else will based Chadnos humble the hunter""""""""""""chads"""""""""""

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>No backgrounds & sameface syndrome: the manga
>better than HxH or even OP
kek, dream on

you're so adorable

Well hello mental gymnastics. It is called manga for some reason, he should just make it light novel at this point for all I care.

Maybe pre-TS One Piece had some interesting themes about adventure and wonder but then Oda decided to milk his franchise because he has no respect for his readers and is only interested in money. Everything after the Time Skip is garbage and Fairy Tail level. Even the MCs turned into mascots.

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It's just good composition in Kubo's case but okay.

You READ manga, you don't WATCH manga.

This is an anime image board none of you are chads

Most people overstate how much the TS hurt One Piece. I think the only thing thats noticeably worse is the art and flanderization of the main cats. The themes are fine, the plot is progressing, and although some arcs are dragged out the pacing seems reasonable.

It consist of drawings and words not 90% wall of text, you ONLY READ book, f.e. light novel.

well... are you gonna refute my point? manga is essentially comics, you cant not have drawings in comics.

>he watched manga instead of reading it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HXH is the exception, you could write a college thesis paper on it

The culprit was a shitposting Aussie.

One Piece has a deeper and more advanced lore than a story like Hunter x Hunter, instead its world is more on the level of Tolkien or Herbert, but is presented so that a child can have an enjoyable and memorable understanding too.
One Piece is full of allegory, metaphor, and foreshadowing on scales of hundreds of chapters for all three. It’s something you can read as a kid and understand, and then read as an adult and understand again but in ways that take advantage of the advanced storytelling you missed as a child.
Any other interpretation from an adult suggests bad development in reading comprehension, that you are only capable of the child’s understanding of this story.

Wait, Australians were behind most of the HxH shitposting?

Aesthetically yes, but thematically not at all. FI presents a look on racial issues more nuanced and intelligent that the West's infertile womb has produced in decades (even though it's the worst arc in general). Dressrosa as well, Doffy's character is a continuation of a character study of Woland(Satan) from Master and Margarita thet expands on his emotional trauma and consequences of falling out from God's grace which leads him to violently fall from Heaven straight into depths of Hell. As well as expands on other issues later on in the arc.

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seems like it, besides this thread it died down pretty bad. There's a reason moot said they were ruining the site, something like 90% of the shitposting that derailed discussion was from australia alone

of course nothing stops them from getting a vpn

>Kubo
>Good art

Kubo is good at designing clothes / character look but that is it

I enjoy looking at art while reading it, wait you not? Why did you even started reading manga ? Acting like a cunt, that's the reason your family hates you and you're all alone.

>Master and Margarita
based doffybro

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Never read OP but honestly if this is true I'd be interested. Could you humor me and maybe talk about some of the themes introduced at the beginning? Like if I was to read the manga from the first volume

Going to open that can of worms and ask what the fuck is the "deep complex themes" that hxh addresses BEFORE the chimera arc

Man I have read one piece until end of dressrosa and it has not been good for the whole timeskip part (at least until the end of dressrosa), HxH never got boring for me, still both mangas are great but I kinda think one piece is more predictable than HxH.

One Punch Man BAD
Godgashi GOOD

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if you need to ask you don't deserve to be told

also favorite part of FI is when hody literally became the KKK and killed human sympathizers and burned their houses

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Read it and see if those OPtards are baiting or serious. By the end of the first 3 arcs you should realize that OP is targeted towards the lowest subhuman speciment that just wants nakama fights and the same adventure where the bad guys loses against the good guy. All the empty words those OPfags are using to describe OP are ridiculous because everyone who has watched or read it knows they are full of shit and OP is just a manga for children and manchildren. Something that an adult would never enjoy reading or watching.

Oda is truly based, but these comments from Togashi worry me a lot. Poor guy.

Well the FI take on racial conflicts is an expansion from one of the last arc from the first saga. The East Blue saga however start as a pretty comfy adventure story, not that deep at all. You get some loose visual and atmospheric inspirations from Tom Sawyer and Boy Who Cried Wolf. However what I liked in those arcs is the emphasis on honor and the duties and strength of man. It's really dignified and badass. It kinda reminds of Joseph Conrad's very masculine take on literature but even though he's also mostly a marine literature writer I don't think Oda was necesserily inspired by him.

BTW if you wanna get into One Piece I generally recommend reading Joseph Conrad and Tom Sawyer to develop the taste for the atmosphere of the vast ocean as well as LOTR or Hobbit for a similar adventure feel.

I hope you realize that the big difference is that OP never goes into depth about those themes and they are only presented on the surface to appeal to the reader's emotions, in order to make you like or dislike a character. It's something that you find in literally any shounen. even Naruto has deeper and more complex themes than One Piece.
Your posts will never be taken seriously by anyone who has watched or read the series or even just by searching One Piece of youtube and watching all the high lights - that are basically Luffy beating the bad guy and moving on to the next one.
One Piece is a manga for children because it presents only surface level themes without exploring them, the way HxH does, without putting the MC in a moral conflict. Luffy is always the good guys, everyone loves him and he's always right. When he's about to lose, his nakama give him powers and he defeats the bad guy. That's what OP is.

The fact that you are over 13 and still read OP means that you are mentally inferior.

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based

That's only if your reading comprehension allows you to only see the superficial features of the story.

And like I said in the other post the first few arcs are character introductions and not that deep compared to the rest of the series. However they're not shallow either.

isnt this the guy from black clover?

>imagine trying to chadpost with this kiddy shit show
youtube.com/watch?v=OK05F8HSb-Y

wan piss is like teletubbies kek

>surface
No user, they're ingrained in the worldbuilding completely. That's the opposite of superficial treatment of the themes.
It would be surface level exploration if the narrator explained them all to you.

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You're only forcing those themes when they are not there. I've read it and watched the anime, and everyone with some intellectual honesty will agree with me that OP is trash meant for children. There is nothing complex or multi-layered about it. The themes that get introduced, are forgotten immediately after a few chapters when Luffy moves on to the next big battle. There are no repercussion and all the MCs are one deminsional despite Oda having 900 chapters to exlore them.
Its obvious to everyone with an IQ above 110 that OP was written by a brainlet for other brainlets. But you can keep trying to force those themes in your kiddy series, but nobody will ever take you seriously.

Based and nenpilled

>themes of race inferiority/superiority introduced a decade ago with arlong park
>expanded upon in fishman island 10 years later and became a driving theme that pushed the plot
>oda went in-depth with multiple flashbacks that further served the lore and the plot

christ, it's like hunterfags don't even know what the fuck they're talking about sometimes

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Like what? When Nami starts crying and Luffy beats the bad guy and saves her? Or When Robin starts crying and Luffy beats the bad guy and saves her? Or when Luffy and Usopp start to fight but then they are friends again and everything is forgotten? OP writing is kindergarden level

>shitposting with post TS anime

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>pasta
oh give me a break. it goes deeper with otohime representing MLK(ending racism through diplomacy) and fisher tiger being malcom x (more violent)through out the arc, but at the end of the arc it doesnt just leave us with "humans are evil", it leaves us with "fishman are equally evil"

HxH is objectively better written but I enjoy OP more and can easily see why OP is much more popular. I can turn my brain off and read OP on the train but I can't do the same for HxH (recently). The current arc in HxH requires a lot of investment, I think that's why many casuals have dropped it.

forgot pic

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That's not a theme. That's just the bad guy saying mean things because he's bad and the reader needs to dislike him.
You're obviously mentally inept and you can't differentiate between a theme and a plot convenience.
We got shown flashback of that shark guy, like we are shown flashbacks about that fire and ice guy from MHA or like any Akatsuki member in Naruto. That's not a theme, either.
Everything is superficial because Luffy is going to beat him and then save the day. Nothing is ever addressed about the themes nor are they ever criticized.
Just accept the fact that you're a manchild and you're reading Wan Piss because you're stuck with it.

>IQ above 110
Is that your IQ? kek
No wonder you lack the reading comprehension
>Like what? When Nami starts crying and Luffy beats the bad guy and saves her? Or When Robin starts crying and Luffy beats the bad guy and saves her? Or when Luffy and Usopp start to fight but then they are friends again and everything is forgotten? OP writing is kindergarden level
Well, no, it's the other times when other things happened user, we're slipping into shitposting here.

>I WADDHA SLABHJE WE SHOULD ALL GET ALOOONG
Nice themes, Pissfag

>Nothing is ever addressed about the themes nor are they ever criticized.
pic related
Stop talking about things you don't understand

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OPfags average IQ is 80-90 that's why they enjoy reading the same shit for 900 chapters. Another proof that OP offers nothing to the manga world is that it didn't influence even one manga during its 20 years of run and it was never praised by any other mangaka

>judging on a single page rather than the arc
nice post, huntfag

>it was never praised by any other mangaka
kek. Togashi himself bowed down to Marineford arc and is copying it.

It's just a different type of story and presentation. A distinct demography doesn't mean lack of quality. I think OP handles itself greatly for what it tries to do. There's no point in moral dilemmas and the fights are mostly about narrative weight than reasonably complex strings of reasoning. Stop comparing two completely different mangas on the same field and learn not to mock other people's tastes.

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Yeah in a fake interview made by a desperate OPfag.

>it didn't influence one manga
Huntards are liars

The shounen virgin incel vs the hunterchad

Don't you feel insulted when you read One Piece? As someone who is highly educated and learned, when I started reading OP, I expected something good but it turned out to be one of the most bland and retarded shounen I've ever read. Its the same formulaic scenario presented in every arc. Luffy and his nakama come to an Island, they save the good guys and beat the bad guys. The MCs are all bland, one dimensional and boring, they offer nothing new and they have the same character for 20 years.
Just imagine writing the same exact carbon copy characters for 20 years, how can you call yourself an artist? There is a reason if OP sells only in Japan and outside of there its pretty much ignored by everyone. Only retarded Japs could buy that shit.

Kek, typical low IQ pseud.

>another pasta
holy shit you guys are funny, truly "high IQ"

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I like HxH more than OP but I wish you fags would stop doing this shit in every thread.

I used to avoid HxH because the character designs bored me to tears but now hunter cancers like
fedora tipper here makes the fanbase look like a community of narcissists. It's not really a lost since I won't have to invest time into it

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Sure, I got bored after a few story arcs and I'm only reading it out of curiosity by this point, but that's just because I have different interests in fiction today than I had when I picked OP. Doesn't mean other people are dumb or wrong for enjoying it, nor does it mean that Oda is a hack or retarded. Some people just want to see a heart-warming adventure to turn their brains off. Intellectual orientation doesn't necessarily correlate to actual intelligence.
Criticism is far deeper and more technical than that.

n-no what happened hunterbros, w-we were winning

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Where is Black Clover?

Made me laugh out loud

>OP
>quality
Araki's work is questionable at best for quality

why do hxhbros and opbros have to be at each others throats? they are two of the greatest shounen series ever written.

nice blog retard

>jojofags

Jojo is one of the worst animes still currently running and Jojofags are some of the most intolerable, least funny and most autistic faggots on Earth. Jojocaust fucking when, if I could kill every single one of you trash taste plebeians and wipe your shitty anime from the earth I would do it for three dollars

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I don't regret it either, thanks

>OP
>one of the greatest shonen ever written
When this kiddy shit ends, everyone will forget about it just like Toriko and Hitman Reborn. That's the league OP is in.

t. Digibro

OP here, loving both. I'm flip-flopping between sides in this conflict to try to be on the side of truth, it's tiring as fuck.

>having to look for a fanart to find a pic of hisoka crying because like the absolute chad he is, hisoka has never cried EVEN ONCE in the manga

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>moeblob
>"animes"
stopped reading right there

C O P I N G

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Hunterchads always win baby

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>emotionless character
OP has soul, HxH is soulless

>shaky, overlapping lines
>good
muh soul

t. assmongled jojohomo
go back to spamming every corner of the internet with your HAHAHAHA IS THAT A LE JOJO REFERENCE HAHAHAHA XD LE QUOTE FROM THE SHOW HAHAHAHAHA autistic cancer you reddit-tier mongloid freak. I hope you fall asleep tonight and never wake up

>have no response for the last batch of post by the op bros
>attack a pic some user used
my sides. you guys should be comedians

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>muh sales
Nobody gives a shit about sales once a series ends. Enjoy fading into irrelevancy along with Bleach (200M+), Golgo 13(200M+) and Slam Dunk (150M+)
While HxH will always be eternal because it revolutionized manga history.

SEETHING

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have a (you)

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Imagine having multiple panels of all your MCs crying like little bitches while Hisoka is always looking smug and fresh.

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>jojos? why yes, i love arakis overflowing creativity in writing and drawing, his willingness to experiment with new concepts and ideas to evolve his story.
>hxh? of course, togashi has written some of the most compelling, mature and intelligent stories in all manga. his approach to the human condition throughout must be commended
>one piece? possibly one of the most richly detailed, mysterious and living worlds in all fiction. oda's long term story telling is simply unrivalled, the way he creates long term build ups and payoffs is nothing short of astounding!

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is this what hunterfags call good art?

>HxH will always be eternal
because it will never be finished, hiatusfag

>HxH will always be eternal because it revolutionized manga history.
Right, or it will end once hunterspergs fuck off to bed and we can further discuss a superior manga

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yeah I geuss you are right, one piece will fall into irrelevency when it finishes, but it sure as hell way better than being irrelevent when the manga still hasn't finished like Haitusxhaitus

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No, that is what we call "maximum chadness".

>"A-at l-l-l-least Hiskoa didn't c-cwy"

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Whoa, he's literally me.

One Piece and Jojo's I can understand putting in the current big 3, but Hiatus x Hiatus does not belong. The quality of OP and Jojo's eclipse HxH to such an immense degree that any comparison becomes laughable.

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Daily reminder that HXH will never be a completed series and end on a boring exposition chapter

utterly embarrassing cope
imagine looking up and posting a picture of a muscular sweaty man to defend your shit taste in animu
you stink of jojohomo

our main character is a chad without any power up, unlike some OTHER mc i know

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Well user, the anime are cool.

He's literally a manlet incel who is always crying and eating greasy food. Perfect for self-inserting, right, OPfag?

STATE of this post
can smell the sexual insecurity from here

have sex incel

watch out! it's a spooky clown, cool huh?

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based hisokachad putting these shonen babies in their places

>Hiatus X Hunter
>One Shiet
>JoJo
Cmon now man

"Big Three" is a big meme you retards

I'm enjoying this thread but purely because of what a braindead shitposting arena it has devolved into. As always hunterfungi spread their cancer and turn discussions into childish bickering. Why won't you stay in containment bros?

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>155...
Yeah, you're fooling no one kid

Let's try to get along, everyone.
Hunterchads, who is your favorite One Piece character?
OPbros, who is your favorite HxH character?

>He's literally a manlet incel who is always crying and eating greasy food.
well I mean, he can change size, has a harem, eats whatever the fuck he wants, he seems more chad than any one in cuckxcuck

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look at that little fella go! I bet he knows some good jokes

Big 3 is for manga running in Shonen Jump. JoJo hasn't been in Shonen Jump for like 15 years.

I like both so from HxH I think I like Kurapika and Meruem the most. From One Piece Doflamingo and Zoro. Each for a very different reason. And what are your picks pacifist bro?

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Kurapika and Black Beard.

Killua and Pariston from HxH
Robin and Katakuri from One Piece

Pariston is a shithead but I understand the appeal. Pretty fuckin based.

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>can change size
kek did he eat the manlet coping fruit?
>has a harem
that he never fucks. gay or just asexual freak?
>eats whatever the fuck he wants
/fit/ would not approve

Meanwhile, Gon:
>6'8
>ripped as fuck
>had sex with milfs
>merciless psychopath killer
>not afraid to murder children if they are in his way
>doesnt give a shit about his friends when they start to get too bitchy

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None in OP because they're cookie cutter shit with "muh sad backstory" as their only defining character trait
In HxH on the other hand, I almost like every single character because Togashi puts so much effort into fleshing out his characters. Also, the designs are way more eye-appealing opposed to OP where they just look goofy and ugly with samefaces everywhere.

>Oda isn't a good storyteller
Jesus fucking christ,read the manga in one month and you will able to notice how fucking good is Oda.

You don't belong in a civilized society. Good thing you live in a basement.

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BASED

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I fucking knew some OPfag would post Enel to "disprove" my point. Funny thing is, Enel is worse than all of Oda's other characters because he doesn't even have a sad backstory to backup his one-dimensional existence.

Jesus, OPfags got utterly destroyed

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Actually I wasn't making a point, just laffin at you.

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Pat 7's art was so clean. There's something really off-putting about Part 8's. Maybe it's the sameface

>OPtards biggest chads are Doffy, Enel and Blackbeard, and all got beaten by some manlet incel MC with nakama power

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Chrollo and Enel

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>6'8
kek, thats really funny, is that all he can muster after his transformation? well luffy is more than 9'8 when he transforms
>ripped as fuck
luffy is such a chad that even while eating shit he is still ripped
>merciless psychopath killer
well counting how many fodder luffy killed in the series, I think it outweighs a cat-ant. also Impel down.
>not afraid to murder children if they are in his way
its pretty normal for a child not to care about chilldren
>doesnt give a shit about his friends when they start to get too bitchy
uhhhh.. usopp on W7?
>that he never fucks. gay or just asexual freak?
ofcourse, no one man will let a woman bog him down while adventuring, romance comes after

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My my! You made me chuckle, fellow hunterfriend!

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Gon didn't transform. That's how he'll look like when he'll be 40, while Luffy will always be a 5'6 skinnyfat manlet who is too scared of fucking some chick and actually killing his enemy (your headcanon fantasies dont count).

>Blackbeard
>chad
OH NO DADDY PLEASE DON'T KILL ME

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based and manlypilled

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no actually opbros biggest chad vary because the manga offers so many good characters, for examples kaido is mine, hunterfags on the other hand... i mean I only see one character always posted, and its a gay pedophile clown.

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based

...

god i hate how hard digital animation fucked One Piece over

Kaido will get beaten by nakama powered manlet incel MC and you won't call him a chad anymore, while Hisoka has kept his chad status for 20 years.

O MY RAYLEIGH FLASHBACKS will make sure that manlet gets to kill THE kaido

see, the difference is that you are making shit up, while I on the other hand have oda's own drawing to see what will luffy look like, and he looks way more of an alpha than gon.
also
>and actually killing his enemy (your headcanon fantasies dont count)
>doesn't recall enis lobby when he threw some marine soldiers down the pit

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>O MY RAYLEIGH FLASHBACKS
>speed reading even the spoilers
why am I not suprised

I don't even read OP, I just come to your threads to shitpost.

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literally shanks and garp. Oda is such a fucking hack.

That's an interesting statement to make about One Piece characters, user. HxH isn't a stranger to 'goofy' character designs either. I think you're just finding any small thing to hate on because you can't think of anything substantial. Also, if you see 'sad backstory' as a One Piece character's only defining trait, it just means that you simply don't understand anything about the characters of the series you're trying to criticize. I know you can do better than that, hunterbro. I'm disappointed.

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Ruffy is cute

Same here. I've been posting in OP threads for 6 years and I haven't even watched one episode

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>literally shanks
your blind, only has the same facial hair
>and garp
well yeah its his grandfather

hey man I got you another proof

Why are people so obsessed with the Big 3 title. It was literally just a term coined for One Piece/Naruto/Bleach back at their "peaks"

Why are we only talking about OP and HxH in this thread?

There is no 'Big 3' and there never was. There is only the Big ONE and that's One Piece.

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Jojo is shit

Well, this time it started from someone shitting on hxh art. Then it was assumed he was an OPbro. The rest is history.

Yep, Wan piss is so shallow that you can just read few posts in their threads and skim through the spoilers and you're set to shitpost. There is no such thing as a deep battle system like Nen, so you can just talk about powerlevel and stuff. It's funny.

based

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>muh goofy

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BASED

>proud of their ignorance
This is why everyone considers HxH low IQ pseuds.
Keep up this PR bros, soon everyone with half a brain will leave your fandom.

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>shitposter went to OPthread
>saw rayliegh
>immeditly spammed "o my rayliegh flashback"
>not realizing that flashback before and it luffy the one who is explaining that pre-timeskip haki is advanced haki
truly high iq

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fuck off you spouting this is gonna make them even more normie than they already are

Is that even possible bro?

looks like he hasnt gotten past the pleb filter yet

Who cares?

he's still autistic but i guess removing all of your teeth without giving a shit to prove you're right is kinda chad, let's say he has chadtism,

also pic related for beta/chad

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>Big
youtube.com/watch?v=TVqYkXYtyr0&

Pretty sure this is just false flagging, but I've never read OP so I dont know how aids the fanbase is.

>DBS
mmk
>BC
ok this is bait

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yes and it is a big one piece of shit

It's alright to have shit taste.

ITT: Hunterfungi utterly destroyed with class and style

Feels good to have all this power bros

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isn't boku no hero still pretty huge? isn't that big 3 material?

>Hunterfungi
So the OPfag was falseflagging as a Hunterfag all along? Fucking pathetic and sad

Kek, here's a plot twist for you, I'm OP and have been playing both sides throught the thread.

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I've been a fan of HxH for years and i never cared about any big 3. Why would i now?