Xenogears

Thanks, now I have the battle theme in my head

>can't they just get the guys who make a series known for the most bog standard, simple jRPG stories to remake one of the most labyrinthine and in depth worlds in video games?
no, and the last thing I want to see is xenogears with toriyama's artstyle

Why would you wnat a remake when they'll probably fuck up FF7?

Because Dragon Quest has only two heads in charge, Yuji Horii and the producer Saito. They decide everything about their games.
You don't have a committee like for other games & anime saying the hero needs to wear Nike shoes/Sony headphones to promote these products.

Dragon Quest just don't have moon jews messing around the game, if Yuji Horii wants to do something, he does.

Once you remove the level grind and peripheral dungeon, the story isn't that massive. You can easily make a well-paced 26 episodes anime out of it. Honestly the problzm is that there might not be as much action as you'd expect in it.

How could they? The game is already written.

That doesn't guarantee that a remake will be good. Seeing as how it's obviously a nostalgia bait cash cow attempt, I'm not expecting anything great. Look at KH3 for example.

I like the game and all but it wouldn't work as an anime. The plot was way too out there.

Literally all they have to do is remake the base game & gameplay using the DQ11 engine, and fully flesh out the 2nd disc full of content

And I'm telling you they will fuck up

What the fuck went wrong with Square Enix?

The plot is bog standard anime sci-fi. Even the whole onions green angle is something done before.

They forgot how to make good games

almost all their talent left, a shit ton of people left to either Monolith Soft with Tetsuya Takahashi or Mistwalker with Hironobu Sakaguchi. The only director there still doing a good job on major titles is Naoki Yoshida who seems to be stuck on FFXIV

>a shit ton of talent left
>to Monolith Soft
>Mistwalker
Not really, seeing as the only thing either of those two companies made that was good was the original Xenoblade

If Sakaguchi & Matsudo went to MonoSoft, could they become the next SquareSoft?

>I would also preferred removing chu-chu based on the fact that personally to me, it's annoying.
Someone else fucking says it after all these years. Thank you.

I will never get over how Chu-chu took a giant dump all over Maria's big climactic moment of confronting her father to defend their home. To the point where people associate Flight, a sped up heroic badass version of Maria's theme, more with Chu-chu than they do with her, Seibzehn or Achtzehn. Fuck Chu-chu, it's a stupid Ewok-style blight that ruined one of the coolest most emotional fight and the ONLY real spotlight Maria would ever get.

They already had to cut so much out and they leave this in? Really? It's a plot that takes itself seriously to an almost ridiculous degree 90% of the time - it really so critical to dedicate resources to this goofy stuffed animal mascot?

One of my top priorities would be relegating those things to the background, assuming they exist at all.

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any of the xenoblade games are far better than what square is shitting out now, not to mention Monolth Soft had a heavy hand in designing breath of the wild. You've got me with Mistwalker but lost odyssey and last story were far better than FF13/15

Monolith soft is already on the way to be the next Squaresoft without them, they've accumulated enough talent to work on multiple games. The main branch alone is working on 2 major games now (next xenoblade and a new medieval aRPG IP), then they've got 3 other studios

all monosoft rpg has been mmorpg lite combat with absolute shit characters and story so nope.

The overgrown hamsters are the worst parts of the xeno series, it's why xenosaga has the best party

>robots
>Enemies are ancient civilization
>Actually enemies are give mind aliens, that control people
>Love you in the next life cycle
Didn't we had that a couple months back?

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>absolute shit characters and story so nope.
how is this any different from most of square's work? The only really good stories Square had were xenogears, vagrant story, and FF tactics

xii was interesting before it shat the bed, probably around when matsuno left

Valkyrie Profile, FF6, FF9, FF7, Cross, Trigger & Parasite Eve all had great storylines

Darling was fucking stupid. They took too much shit from other series that are arguably much better than the badly paced piece of crap that managed to get worse over time.

>any of the xenoblade games are far better than what square is shitting out now
Maybe, but I was comparing it to the old FFs and XCX and XC2 are nowhere near as good as those
>lost odyssey and last story were far better than FF13/15
15 is trash but 13 is better than anything Mist or Monolith has released so far other than XC1. The only thing bad about 13 was the linearity, but otherwise it was actually enjoyable.

>purposely leaving out FF8
FF8 had by far the best storyline out of the ones on the PlayStation which was the only redeeming factor on that game.

> FF7 story
> good.
Although I liked Crisis Core, the original game was personally less compelling in terms of characterization. Cloud was way too emo and quite frankly, his amnesia and replacement of Zack was just poorly written even though he said he wouldn't forget, yet he did.

yeah, I agree

FF6,9, and trigger are nothing special story wise, 7 is nice but a discount xenogears. cross is a mess that even the director, kato, didn't know what was going on due to hi lack of theming. Paraite eve is cool but is based off a book. VP is on my backlog, no comment yet

>13 is better than anything Mist or Monolith has released so far other than XC1
dreadful opinion

FF8 is absolutely awful, kingdom hearts tier shit. There is something wrong in almost every scene. There's a part in the game where leon and ronoa are about to die in space but then a massive space ship appears out of nowhere which wasn't seen before. That's one of many bullshit moments of FF8

> FF8
> good
Jesus christ, at least Xenogears HAD better effect of consequences.

The story doesn't have to be special, it just have to be told extremely well & keep you invested from start to finish

in which case FF8 fails hard, especially on the former

XII had the best set up. It had loads of lore and a science fantasy setting that hits all the right places. Although characters were fleshed out, the lack of involvement with the overall political intrigue and struggles made it more of a giant fetch quest. The fancy dialogue was great, though.

My comment was in response to the other user's comment on Trigger, FF6, 9 & Chrono Cross

All they had to do to fix it was retcon Vaan/Panelo & make Ashe the lead protagonist

my bad, in that case I can agree that trigger, 6, and 9 are enjoyable even if they lack nuance, but cross is poorly told

>baiten kaitos
>mmorpg combat

Tell me of this mmo, now.

Agree, Chrono Cross has a amazing story but it's told poorly & is hard to understand unless you are really invested in it

> That's one of many bullshit moments of FF8
>there are people who actually play Final Fantasy games for the plot

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ashe was going to be the lead, but Square thought a female lead would sell less copies than a male. Basche was next up for MC but they thought he was too masculine (I shit you not) so Vaan was made

Fuck that, Balthier was the real main protagonist.

But besides that, let's talk about how to develop an anime of xenogears.

we're talking about the stories, but if you want to focus on gameplay the junction shit is one of the worst major mechanics in the series. Only thing FF8 gets right is the soundtrack and the presentation for its time

Fuck all those characters. That whole game should have just been about Fran and Balthier.

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Ok, back to Xenogears talk before this thread gets deleted for off-topic.

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> FFVI grosses 641 Million dollars
> FFX-2 grosses 670 million dollars
> Both had female protagonists
> Somehow this translates into "Not making enough money" when FF9 grossed even less then these two
Jesus christ, how can a company be so incompetent?

to be fair, there is no real main character of 6 and X-2 is riding off X

>there are people who don't actually play Final Fantasy games for the plot

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he entire game revolves around Terra first & foremost, she's the cover girl, first character you meet & name. She's the main protagonist until the World of Ruin, when Celes becomes the lead

FF8 was ambitious. Something that no game other than Xenogears tried to do.

In regards to making an anime, I would make the following changes:
> Remove chu-chu, the thing is annoying and takes way too much spotlight
> Tweek the artstyle so it doesn't seem too same-face.
> Less narration, more show, don't tell.
> make the pacing of disc 2 actually bearable and what was originally intended instead of the exposition shit we got.
> keep music from the games. Especially the battle theme.
50 episodes would be appropriate. Show characters and their interpersonal struggles and fleshing out. Also remove much of the plot conveniences like how the yggsadril conveniently found parts of the prototype to make themselves a new water-based ship.

Also, to fix some of Xenogears problems, I would also propose that character stop repeating words said out to them in questions. Actually say something more clarifying the issue rather than just repeat the same thing as if it were a Metal Gear Solid game?

It was catchy.

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It would probably trigger the Americans really badly.

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Based and it would trigger the Muslims and other religious organizations too

Don't make it.

Remember when they adapted Star Ocean 2 into an anime? It was mostly pointless to watch if you already played the game and knew the story.

It will be similar with Xenogears. You may as well just play the game again instead.

If we really have to make something, make a manga adaptation first.

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Did anyone else watch this steaming turd?

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>FF6, FF9, PE
>great storylines
Absolute bait.

As a character, Terra is a literally who with barely any dialogue or character interaction, dwindling into a big nothing in WoR. As for Celes, she only exists to angst for an hour or two before we switch to Sabin and Edgar to actually get shit done.

they already rehashed this for xenoblade 2

At least Monolithsoft didn't spend a literal decade developing the next installment of Xenoblade.

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Fucking Citan. Could have said something before.

Xenoblade 1 lives by its presentation, pacing and very complete nature. As far as subtext, characters and thematic richness, it’s the weakest of the story driven Xeno games. It would be dreadful if it was told the same way as Xenogears.

Just here to say Maria is cute. CUTE!!!I want to forget the doujins goddammit

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Why?

New VA cast:

1. Kaito Ishikawa - Contact's Incarnations (Abel, Kim, Lacan, Fei Fong Wong/Id)

2. Yuko Sanpei - Dan, Tolone

3. Hiroyuki Yoshino - Timothy, Hammer

4. Saori Hayami - Alice, Marguerite "Margie" Fatima, Dominia Yizkor

5. Mamoru Miyano - Citan Uzuki/Hyuga Ricdeau

6. Mie Sonozaki - Yui Uzuki, Myyah/Miang Hawwa

7. Kokoro Kikuchi - Midori Uzuki, Chu-chu, Cherubina/Kelvana

8. Himika Akaneya - Counter-Existence/Anti-Type's Incarnations (Abel's Elhyam, Elhyam from Zeboim, Elhyam/Sophia, Elhyam van Houten)

9. Takahiro Sakurai - Grahf, Jessiah Black

10. Nobunaga Shimazaki - Batholemew "Bart" Fatima

11. Hiroshi Kamiya - Sigurd Harcourt, Roni Fatima

12. Kenyuu Horiuchi - Maison, Isaac Balthasar, Stone/Stein, Captain of the Thames

13. Toshiyuki Morikawa - Shakhan, Ricardo "Rico" Banderas, Khan Wong/Wiseman

14. Hiroaki Hirata - Carlin Ramses/Kahran Ramsus, Nikolai Balthasar

15. Hiroyuki Yoshino - Hammer, the Wave Existence

16. Kouki Uchiyama - Billy Lee Black, Rene Fatima

17. Misato Fukuen - Maria Balthasar, Seraphitia

18. Sumire Uesaka - Emeralda

19. Akio Ohtsuka - Rattan, Erich van Houten, Taura Melchior

20. Kikuko Inoue - Queen Zephyr, Medena van Houten

Personally, I was always disappointed when I looked for Xenogears porn and this chick seemed to get most of it

Fuck you I liked the Star Ocean anime.

>ruined one of the coolest most emotional fight and the ONLY real spotlight Maria would ever get.
Don't worry Maria still has a chance to get her spotlight

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I hope the rumors are true for an Xenogears anime project.

All three Xenoblade games are great and better than any of the shit Square has put out in a decade next to FF14.

>Basche was next up for MC but they thought he was too masculine
They said he was too old.