GDP is kind of a meme. Its growth just means that more money was made. Immigration can do things like depress wages and increase consumption to drive up your nation's GDP.
Open borders book #2
Jack Gonzalez
Hudson Mitchell
Technically if I give you $10 to do 10 pushups and you then give it back to me if I can do the same we've boosted GDP, at least in principle.
It makes for a very scummy way of lying to the people, where you can point to a number that makes people think things are getting better, while you keep fucking them right up the ass until it's permanently the size of a 50c coin.
Jaxon Smith
>Yea Forums literally arguing with a childrens book
what's next, analysing Little Red Riding Hood?
Lucas Lopez
You’re really missing the point though. Economics is a religion to westerners, especially Americans. Go talk about stonks with any boomer and they’ll position themselves to you as if they themselves have a PhD in the field and have had a career trading (which is another funny misconception that stock market trading = economics). All of it distilled down to the most basic tier dogmas that they’ve been fed but they don’t care to look deeper. They want to be the most pious of all the worshippers in the temple of the market. Behind all of this is the notion that economists do or have ever been concerned about the interests of people. They don’t. They never have. Economists are data whores. GDP is up or GDP is down. America is wealthier than ever or it’s not. It doesn’t matter if it’s Joe from Nebraska or Pajeet from Mumbai who is being productive. Productivity is good, right? It’s a disgusting sleight of hand trick that plays of ignorance. I say all of this as a graduate of the economic academic system. I’ve become so disillusioned with the willful ignorance and clear deception that it’s nearly unbearable. Economists are not friends of the people. They never have been.
Dominic Bell
this is a fucking based book. after all USA is a multicultural mixed immigrant country.
it's borders should be open for anyone.
Adam Thomas
i'm not against immigration or freedom of movement. i just think arguments presented in this book are retarded or straight up evil. here to discuss this particular book, not the wide concept
Josiah Smith
How much of an insecure beta do you have to be to see people speaking with confidence on a topic and produce this tantrum. Get off reddit
Dominic Nelson
Little Red Riding Hood: The Science and Ethics of Eating Grandmothers.
Adam Johnson
Isn't it more about not trusting old white people?
Michael Torres
>brain drain
That's a decent argument indeed. But seeing how it pretty much only hurts populations with no power, it's hard to promote it. The average American doesn't care if Guatemala remains a shithole.
It would require a shift towards a multi-polar world vision and that would bring many drastic consequences, also potentially undesirable ones. It would almost certainly lower the purchasing power of USD, for example.
>It's extremely stupid. He outright admits the pyramid scheme nature of things but then goes the typical neoliberal bullshit way of just demanding we import more darkies to keep the Ponzi scheme going.
Yes, and? Is the US a shithole now that it has like 60% whites compared to 90% 50 years ago? NYC is safer now than it was 20 years ago, even with fewer whites.
Stats don't necessarily work in your favor. So you need to convince people that your race/ethnicity has inherent value and there's no obvious way to do that.