Comparatively little is known about Celtic paganism because the evidence for it is fragmentary...

Romans/Greeks wrote their philosophies down. And those still persist today and have huge influence on Christian and western thought.

If it's not worth writing down then nothing of value was lost.

So is there actually any philosophy to Paganism at all or is it literally all just LARPing?

your wife's fevered dreams

Pagans were based and redpilled. They just unfortunately had no idea that there would eventually come a religion which had a precept to destroy all that is good in this world so the knowledge was lost.

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Well why would you write something down in the first place? To preserve an idea in its original perfect form for future generations and/or contemporaries right? That implies an element of foresight, a will to endure. A strong literary tradition reveals a culture is not content to simply exist and sees itself heading in a particular direction, towards some kind of goal. It reveals both an intention to be great and a presupposition of greatness. The kinds of cultures that write little or nothing down, what I would refer to as low cultures, exist in a perpetual dreamlike state where yesterday is much the same as tomorrow. They float along with no transcendent purpose. What greatness did the Celts achieve compared to the Greeks, Indians, or Chinese? The Celts could never have existed and the rest of the world wouldn't notice the difference. Caesar would've conquered another people that occupied the same land.

Really, what changes did the Irish make to biblical texts?

They didn't expect semitic tribes to smear abrahamic doo doo all over their people so they had no reason to write anything down.

Centuries of throwing christ*ans in bogs isn't exactly instant conversion.

pleb filter so not anyone retard could just read a book to learn the secrets of the druids, we all know how well protestantism went for christianity

>Not writing down your ideas also makes them easy to misrepresent and distort and one generation of disbelievers will cancel out hundreds of years of tradition.
It wasn't like some sort of abstraction that had to be in the form of a written word. The majority of pre-Christian Europeans were in a state of religious intoxication for lack of a better word, ego and interpretation of the stories was a comparatively small fraction of the total experience of a collective unconscious and how that would manifest with the ego would vary, even if the patterns were similar enough to be called archetypes. Many of the gods had a common origin and theme like Zeus, Thor, Perkūnas, Indra, all similar with a similar cultural origin. "Disbelieving" meant not participating in life-affirming rituals and traditions and the culture of your people, it was kind of a neurotic/omega male thing to do in that kind of context.

They seem to rape children much less.

Nerdics are artless subhumans

They're highest deity also sucked the dicks of hanging corpses and while the celts were inventing chainmail and teaching the italians how to farm, the germans were passing around snot bowls and wearing their own filth

You realize the celts came from Germany and many Germanic tribes were influenced by La Tene culture right?

I would also assume Italians were farming without any help from Celts considering agriculture was already widespread throughout Europe long before there was anything called Celts, Germanics, or Romans.

>people from pre-german germany are german because the region is now called germany
this is the nordicist brain at work, huh

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>Christianity has survived for 2000 years just fine
The last Christian died on the cross...

The absolute fucking state of McCuckolds

romans weren't bogpilled

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You incorrectly think that oral instead of written somehow = stupid. Humans have been anatomically modern for more than 50,000 years. There were, without a doubt, prehistoric men that would make you look like you had fucking Down syndrome in comparison.

Think on why Socrates, one of the most brilliant minds in recorded history, believed the only way to wisdom was through dialogue with others in real time.

>They're highest deity also sucked the dicks of hanging corpses
what is this meme, can't find any source on it

I miss Varg's youtube channel, Yea Forums

beyond based, they made sure their stuff wouldn't be co-opted by retards in the future.

A lot of the Latin text they glossed through Irish. So things like "fortune-teller" "witch" "fool" all tend to be related to the Irish "cailleach"/"amadach" which are not necessarily what the Hebrew said, but made concepts familiar to Celtic religion. Things Nordic concepts are also woven into the Insular monks, because of their attempts to convert the Norse. While both Norse and Celtic records written by monks tend to be highly Christianised, the influence of Celtic monks changed how the Bible was written in Latin. Early Church readings of the Witch of Endor say ventriloquist, because demons and witches don't exist. The greek says ventriloquist and the Latin as the Irish spammed it says pythonese, and that stays the standard in the British Isle where King James interprets it as an act of pagan demon magic by a witch, and not a confidence trick but real magic. Because most medieval glossed read it as "magical woman/fool", so summoning a ghost to find out it was a bad idea to summon ghosts makes sense within the Irish mythological universe more than choosing to be a ventriloquist who has a humourous end to your act where the dummy comes back to dent you.

isn't he on bitchute?

Writing things down doesn't prevent distortion, instability or loss of belief though.

Fundamentalists are doomed to fail because they cannot change with the times and they end up as stagnant backwaters.

Christianity survived for 2000 years and is now dead in Europe. Pagan religions in Europe lasted significantly longer before the conversion.

I'm not saying wars are a bad thing. I'm saying that writing your religion down does not prevent ideological conflicts as can be shown by 400 years of Catholic and Protestant violence towards one another based on two different interpretations of the same religion with a holy text.

The source is a bogus Marxist woman from Sweden at a Swedish University who has been completely rejected.

It's not true but people are easily influenced by literal memes on Yea Forums

To add to the thread, even today there are sages who can recite all the upanishads but couldn't even spell their own name. In vedic system great emphasis is made on sound. There was even a list of punishments in hell for anyone who dared write the veda down. But that was in the golden age. Sage Bhagavan Vedavyas and Ganesha had to write the Veda down at the start of kaliyuga. Five thousand years ago

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/pol/acks gotta hand it to poo in loos for preserving the indo-european tradition alive.

Celts had their fair share of zealots, so the fundie part is erroneous.
As for violent division over interpretation - hard to say anything as they didn't exactly spread the knowledge far either, after the Romans killed their druids, the religion essentially died.

>They just unfortunately had no idea that there would eventually come a religion which had a precept to destroy all that is good in this world so the knowledge was lost.
They did know of jews.

>Fundamentalists are doomed to fail because they cannot change with the times and they end up as stagnant backwaters.

>changing with the times is a good thing!

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>cause oral tradition worked well enough
Where's that oral tradition now?

>larpers this assmad over some desert tribes heresy causing the destruction of several primitive religions they're not even a part of because being athiest is to main stream.

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Yet plato wrote that
Big think

Plato and Aristotle and Socrates are venerated in philosophy mainly because of the early Church fathers and Christian theology promoting many of their ideas....

>They just unfortunately had no idea that there would eventually come a religion which had a precept to destroy all that is good in this world so the knowledge was lost.
Nietzsche, Marx, Atheism, Secular humanism? Liberalism has done more to destroy the philosophy of the Greeks than anything else

>Celts taught Italians how to farm before Celts even existed and Italians were already farming in the first place
this is the celtcuck brain at work huh

No. They're venerated because of their philosophy. Not because Christians only managed to destroy most but not all of Greek philosophy.

Christians be like "we may have shut down the academy, all the religious institutions that inspired them and which maintained an actual coherent foundational culture where doing philosophy for the sake of philosophy actually makes sense, put the philosophers in literal tribunals, made philosophy straight up illegal(yes philosophy with unquestionable axioms is not philosophy but theology so philosophy actually died with Christianity), went door to door looking for haram pagan philosophical literature and chased the last of the philosophers off to Persia. But we wuz preservers and shieeet"
>Nietzsche, Marx, Atheism, Secular humanism? Liberalism has done more to destroy the philosophy of the Greeks than anything else
None of this has done anything to destroy Greek philosophy.

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They say Gaul was farmed more extensively than medieval France.

Really makes you think.

>instantly converted
>literal genocides/forced conversions being carried out as late as 1290
>Christians make a point of erasing any pagan literature ala Emperor Julian

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celt.ucc.ie/

This. All you oral apologists need to get your facts straight. Yes there are some advantages to oral, but you have to be dense to not see the massive negatives as well.

>Christianity survived for 2000 years and is now dead in Europe. Pagan religions in Europe lasted significantly longer before the conversion.
I dont think thats a talking point at all. We barely know much about them bbesides some material culture. There could have been multiple fundimental changes in theology throughout that time and we could not tell because no writing. Also its a few thousand years of not much going on development wise. The amount of stuff that changes increases exponential as time goes on in societal development.

Christianity is at its core about the Word (Logos) of God become manifest in the flesh. The Word isn’t just a set of scriptures written down in a book on Earth. It is a living, breathing entity that transcends space and time. The written scriptures are there as a reflection of the Word so as to teach people with absolute objective clarity and are an eternal record written into the fabric of reality.

You are projecting xtian concepts of theology and religion onto people who probably did not think that way.

It's Dawkins-tier stupid to assume that Christian philosophy isn't philosophy. Is there any evidence that the decline in philosophical teaching was due to Christianity and not the empire's own decline?
How common were said genocides? They were barely a part of how Christianity spread, and tended to be more politically motivated than religious.
Exactly. We know more about Norse and Celtic in the times shortly before their conversion than we would have if they remained pagan. There's no reason to suspect the pantheons or rituals are unchanged.

>It's Dawkins-tier stupid to assume that Christian philosophy isn't philosophy. Is there any evidence that the decline in philosophical teaching was due to Christianity and not the empire's own decline?
Christians killing philosophers and destroying works of philosophy.
>How common were said genocides? They were barely a part of how Christianity spread, and tended to be more politically motivated than religious.
How the fuck are you gonna ask a question and then attempt to answer it authoritatively yourself? Beyond stupid.
>Exactly. We know more about Norse and Celtic in the times shortly before their conversion than we would have if they remained pagan. There's no reason to suspect the pantheons or rituals are unchanged.
Another astonishingly stupid statement. We would know more about Celtic traditions today because Celtic people would exist.

Please read a fucking book bro. Read one book. Please bro.

>comparitively little is known
Yeah, comparatively, that doesn't mean "nothing". Much of Hellenism is lost because it wasn't written down, virtually everything we know about it comes from scattered myths at particular times. That doesn't mean you can't practice it. And the Celts did write their religion down, especially after they adopted Latin.

It's gone, and they don't give a shit because they're dead. Meanwhile the written work of the ancient geeks is being covered by layer after layer of christfag (and now redditor) nuttage, its original meaning forever lost.

>You are projecting xtian concepts of theology
I do not think so. There is a buttload of different indic versions of Hinduist religion and stories, and the only reason that some parts are more or less codified is because they were written down.
Another astonishingly stupid statement. We would know more about Celtic traditions today because Celtic people would exist.
No. THAT is an astonishingly stupid statement. Because pretty much across the board when a pagan oral based culture comes in close contact to a literate one, the former gets consumed by the later. By the simple fact that Rome assimilated much of the Gaulic culture in less then a hundred years of its conquest speaks to that. Oral based cultures can really only live in a vacuum with natural barriers like seas or vast plains. The celtic people would have been consumed regardless, and most were culturaly roman by the time of the Christians. Want more examples? The mongols. They quickly assimilated into the writen culture even though they BTFO everyone militarily.

cringe & yikes desu senpai

What do you mean? If you dont like specific interpretations why not read the primary documents and learn about the context in which it arised? Make your own interpretation midwit, stop stroking yourself to your self created forlorn hope.

>he still thinks Ossian wasn't real

>its original meaning forever lost

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They weren't reclusive hermits that wanted a monastic tradition