Stop making excuses and do acid

>I'm 18
everyone has done acid kid, you'll realize just how shallow it is when you grow up. if you grow up.

Why is it always bmwf?
It has no logical explanation

Because it's true? Not to mention that alcohol is bad for you, has numerous negative side effects, etc. etc. etc. while acid and psilocybin are both perfectly safe (unless you have pre-existing tendencies toward schizophrenia)

t. shadow the hedgehog

The entire druggie ideology seems to boil down to this:
>People abuse alcohol, tobacco, fast food, etc
>Therefore ALL substances should be legal to abuse

People center their entire lives around this ideology. It's pathological.

Well...yeah. I mean, you're just stating the libertarian position on controlled substances. Not really giving any reasons why they should be banned, especially when there are legal substances that are scientifically proven to kill you.

You sound like a child going "Why does Johnny get to stay up late and I don't! IT'S NOT FAIR!"

Because many of these are much more tempting to use than like, oven cleaner or some shit, as a drug.

Why do you think stigma against pot was so fervent for decades? Because it was illegal. Most people follow the law as scripture. Now that pot is being legalized, it’s being normalized, and now a TON more people use it than, say, in 1995. If we did the same with other drugs, you can bet your ass the usage rates would go up in the coming years.

Do we really want a society with widespread usage of hard drugs?

>yeah bro, I'm not an asshole, how dare you, JEEESZH man you gotta let go of YOUR EGO *says it it meanly and with malice*, I'm not the asshole here, YOU ARE, fucktard. Let me also interject that i uhhhh like uhhhh take personal offense at any opinion or argunment of yours that I disagree with and the reason why you are wrong is because of YOUR EGO DUDE, i used to be like you, but fuck off man, i let go of my ego, why cant you

>still not actually addressing the argument

>Ignoring the other poster who ripped your shit argument in half

>while acid and psilocybin are both perfectly safe

this is doseage dependent, but mostly untrue. trips are always risky

Sure but something causing society to decline doesn’t make it morally corrupt, banning the masses from bodily control is way worse than any damage legalizing would do

i actually managed to grow some teeth by being a psychadelic user, instead of the sterotypical mellow grateful dead fan. i don't think psychadelic users are mean enough actually; the stigma regarding them as a 'hard drug' and the severe legal consequences should make any decent person angry

Literally no. People are fucking cattle who want to be told what to do most of the time.

And

>Sure but something causing society to decline doesn’t make it morally corrupt

In a way it does tho

Have you actually done any research on the subject? Like, at all? In all of the states that have legalized weed, usage rates have remained where they were during prohibition. Most people don't follow the law as scripture, and I'd be interested in seeing a citation that informs that feeling of yours.
Then there's the fact that, in countries that have decriminalized or legalized hard drugs, rates of use have also remained constant with the only thing changing being a decrease in crime and over-doses.
But, beyond all of that, what makes anyone think they have the right to tell other adults what they can and can't put into their own bodies? How do you support other people having control over decisions on what you can and can't do, especially with substances that are proven to not do any damage to your body through use? Why have you ceded control of your body to other people?
Oh, and I'd like to see your citations on weed use increasing in states that have legalized weed use.

You people claim that psychedelics open the doors of perception or whatever, but every single one of you talks about it in the exact same language and with the exact same cliches.

Yes, because being more aware and considerate of other people's individuality is a bad thing?

>Do we really want a society with widespread usage of hard drugs?

you're already in one, so...

Probably because experiences on these substances are fairly universal, which is why it's so highly recommended, what with having predictable effects and all.

like I said, acid is nothing more than fun. I ate a triple patty burger on a 800ug trip once that's how retarded it is. it's dumb. if you think highly of acid you're 18.

I get you’re just making your point in a clever way, but my autism must clarify my statement:

>Do we really want to live in a society with even more normalized abuse of hard drugs?

Some people are just assholes. I'd argue that acid just intensifies whatever you 'are'. So, if you're crazy, best believe 'cid is going to exasperate it.
If anyone is considering taking it just be careful. Start with a micro, see how that effects you. You'll still get most of the benefits; less intensity and more control on the lower doses. Then, if it's something you think could be useful to you, experiment with the dosages.
Drugs, including sugar and TV (yes, I'm that extreme) are tools; not sacraments. Just be smart and don't over do it, or you may end up with irreparable damage to your squishy pink boi.
And, for God's sake, don't let it consume your identity, or define you.
Oh, and don't fall into the 'it makes me more creative' trap. That's simply not true. Sure, a drastic change in perspective could lead to a break through of some kind, but it really isn't the end all be all of altered cognition. You can enter altered states in many other ways, they just take longer to master. I.e. meditation, sensory deprivation, etc.

It is if you are arbitrarily angry with someone rather than what they are saying and cease discussion about the topic at hand and boil everything down to ego in the most meanspirited way imaginable.

What is it even about? You feel like stupid shit has a deeper meaning? You hallucinate? Why do that shit?

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Maybe once I’ve figured my shit out and am truly happy I’ll try it, but I’m in no rush. If i die without it I won’t see it as a waste.

Acid isn't a thing anymore. Enjoy your brain damage from RCs

You’re so reddit it hurts.

>Source? Do you have a source for your opinion?

Don’t give a shit about data, if you think weed use hasn’t increased in legal states you’re fucking retarded.

>foreign country examples

Disregarded.

>muh bodily rights
Considering incessant drug use causes tangible harm for others, this argument also folds on itself. Can I rape someone? No? Well, I’m allowed to choose what i do with my body, no?

It's preferable to living in a society where the government has strict control over what you can and can't do with your own body.

I’m going to drink while I’m driving down the interstate later, okay?

Being drunk isn't illegal. Buying beer isn't illegal. Selling beer isn't illegal provided you have a license to do so. Drinking beer isn't illegal, so long as you're of-age.

Do you know what strict control over what you do with your body means? You can do that regardless of what the government says, but it can cause injury to property so you’ll be punished for it

And people who do crack/coke/meth all pose a similar threat to that drunk driver I outlined. You ever been to the inner city? I’m guessing both(?) of you are sheltered white suburbanites.

>Don’t give a shit about data, if you think weed use hasn’t increased in legal states you’re fucking retarded.

Then what's the point in arguing with you, if you aren't actually going to address or refute anything that I'm saying with more than a hand wave? Provide some data to prove your point.
>Considering incessant drug use causes tangible harm for others, this argument also folds on itself.
So we should make alcohol and cigarettes illegal too. Trans fats, and oils, and red meat too. Anything that's bad for us, and that could have ripple effects on people outside of ourselves should be banned, right?
>Can I rape someone? No? Well, I’m allowed to choose what i do with my body, no?
Your right to your own body does not mean you have rights over other people's bodies. Violating someone else's body has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
>Foreign country examples disregarded
On what grounds?

Huh?

to an extent, yes. various drugs have existed alongside us throughout all of civilization, the ridiculous prohibition of various substances has more to do with the stigma than the actual consequences of using a so called 'hard drug'. you don't want opium or cocaine legal in your country because it might make everyone look bad, which is understandable. however, the people that use are going to continue to use or expose themselves to it will never stop. this causes even bigger problems with law enforcement and legal issues ruining people's lives, all while the using is pushed underground into an arms race. ban opium? now you have pure heroin. ban heroin? great, now you have fentanyl. some people are going to die using drugs and ruin their lives, and they should be allowed to. most people won't. the government attempting to cover everything in bubble wrap just makes everything worse.

now for a tl;dr, do i want opium dens and crackhouses on my street? no. do i think its likely for those to pop up if both were legalized tomorrow? also no.

I live in Riverside County, California. I see the shit you're talking about on a daily basis. And, again, if we're policing substances because of what users may or may not do on them, or the built up side effects, then you're going to have to ban a lot more than just hard drugs.
That's what I was trying to say, but couldn't figure out my wording.

But you still can do hard drugs. The government doesn’t provide them for you, but they still have no control over whether or not you choose to do them.

>now for a tl;dr, do i want opium dens and crackhouses on my street? no. do i think its likely for those to pop up if both were legalized tomorrow? also no.
In areas that have free-use zones that are policed and clearly demarcated, crime related to use and over doses have gone down steeply.

It makes you aware of the interconnectedness of all life, giving you perspective on yourself and your place in the universe. That and it knocks the hell out of depression for a good 2-3 months, which is reason enough, as far as I'm concerned.

risking dui is great fun, but the interstate is government property, buddy, and you sign an agreement not to be overly intoxicated when you use your license to drive. your home hopefully isn't government owned

>I trust statistics and lab coats with running my society
You're just stupid there's no point arguing with you.
Obviously legalization promotes use and anyone with half a brain can see how prevalence of weed nation wide has dramatically increased.
Recreational drugs are bad for society at large. They promote lethargy and wastefulness. You shouldn't need some flimsy study to intuit that. You're so worried about the physical bodily harm that you completely forget that drugs mostly damage psyche and mentality in people. Libertarianism is just as idealistic as communism. You don't deserve the right to autonomy because you're dumb and need someone greater and wiser than you to point you in the right direction. But you won't listen to me because you're a lazy degenerate only worried about justifying his parasitic lifestyle. Honestly we would all be better off if you were killed.

All you're doing is making assertions without anything resembling proof. You're not going to convince me on government legislation and regulation without evidence backing your feelings up. I trust facts, evidence and data more than I trust your feelings.

>is asked for data supporting his beliefs
O-oh yeah well you should be killed cause buzzwords.

>dude just lock people in a cage for many rotations of the sun because they smoked the wrong variant of plant matter lmao

How do you find acid? I've been looking but I have no friends, so I don't know where to buy it.

Get a job in a restaurant and make friends with the bussers and dish cleaners.

>slave morality
You probably take all your "studies" and "data" at face value. I've done more research than you into how all these studies are conducted. Most lab coats care more about getting their paper published than they do with its accuracy. But keep just reading the abstract and feel informed the way you do. Society is better when the population isn't using recreational drugs vs when they're using recreational drugs.
>I need an outside source to validate every thought I have

I'll look into it. Any other ways of finding it?

Don’t forget about
>what do you mean I can’t just credulously believe whatever pops into my head?

>eye dropper
Nope. Tabs. It's all neurological damage

That’s the most reliable. And that way, you can be sure that you won’t get bad shit. No one wants to remove a team member from staff, because that affects the whole crew, you know? Outside of that, you would have to buy from a stranger, which is never recommended, under any circumstances.

NYC dropped their crime rate by 70% doing exactly this. Sorry stoney but it works

[citation needed]
>i’ve done research into how studies are done!
I believe this completely. There is no need whatsoever for you to give evidence for any of what you said. You have changed my mind by making blind assertions, non-sequiturs, ad hominems and death threats. Your rhetoric teacher must be proud.

>living in a police state where you can be strip searched at any given moment is preferable to one in which people are free to govern themselves and their personal habits
And I'm sure everyone else agrees with you, and you can make compelling arguments as to why they should believe you.

good to know. Thanks

I'll be taking a 5g shroom trip next summer, probably towards the tail end of it. Looking forward too it.

No sweat, bro. Good luck!
Look into how to make tea; it's much easier on your stomach. The shrooms themselves taste awful, and a heroic dose is certain to give you nausea. It shouldn't affect your trip one way or the other, but avoiding stomach problems is generally preferable.

Unironically, great taste, user

>I have freedom. Look at all these free, happy people. Oh, hi Tyrone, how's it g- *gets shot*
This is why compulsory military service should be a thing. You're clearly a weak person

Great argument as to why I should sign away my bodily autonomy, along with everyone else's. I assume we'll also be banning trans fats, cigarettes, cigars, beer, caffeine, bars, nightclubs, pizza parlors and hot dog stands. Should we just have Disney do a makeover of Times Square while we're at it?

This seems to be the general consensus amongst people. I enjoy microdosing, it helps with stress and depression and migraines so much.

Nausea is my main concern. Fortunately, I'll be growing my own supply, so, if all goes according to plan, I'll have more than enough to experiment with. Making tea more or less involves grinding up the dried shrooms, then soaking in lemon juice for a certain period of time before ingesting, yes?

Wonderful idea into eliminating degeneracy and the pathetic "men" the west produces in the west. It will take care of itself a lot more forcefully in the future otherwise through the uprising of other civilization. You should read more history.

The lemon juice bit is unnecessary. I ground mine up to a fine dust with a traditional pestle and mortar, then put the dust into a loose leaf tea with my own blend, strawberries, green tea leaves and such. Also had about 5g, defused into 32oz of tea.

Everyone's very shocked and offended with your edginess. We're all aghast.

While I agree with the majority of what your saying (outside of compulsory military service, in an ideal society, this wouldn't be necessary), "drug" use doesn't always equate to degeneracy. Specifically the use of psychedelics.

What a surprise a junkie is afraid to actually acknowledge the reality of a historically repeating phenomenon because it would break his wittle bubble.

Drug use doesn't always equate to degeneracy, you are right, but in the large majority of cases drug users, including psychedelics, mask their reasons for the use of their drugs behind legitimate reasons, invalidating those who use them with purpose.

If that's what you need to tell you in order to sleep at night. You're the one that can't actually back your shit up with actual evidence, advocating instead that I should believe the historical narratives that you do. You still haven't actually justified anything you're saying, just hearsay, conjecture and assertions. Someday, I'm sure you'll figure out an actual reason to curtail other people's agency.

Your still ingesting the flesh though, yes? Outside of masking the taste of the mushrooms, how helpful is that with nausea?

Sorry, I'm not a schizophrenic skeptic. If you can't follow the simple train of thought that a society plagued with obesity, depression, complacency, addiction, etc. Is going to fail and isn't already failing, you've done an excellent job of pulling the wool over your eyes through drug use under the guise of "enlightenment".

>Your still ingesting the flesh though, yes?
Think of it more like eating a weed brownie. It'll also come on the same way, slowly and in waves, rather than all at once.
>how helpful is that with nausea
Completely. My stomach was fine throughout.

Okay. Have a nice life believing things for totally unsupported reasons. Maybe you can make the sun rise in the west if you find enough historical anecdotes supporting your beliefs. Meanwhile, I'll believe the shit I can prove, demonstrate and give evidence for.

Sure, but an individual's inability to responsibly trip has less to do with the drug (specifically psychedelics, I have little to no interests in other paraphernalia), and more to do with the individual, and even than, their actions are the symptom of a larger problem. Western society as a whole has more or less gone to shit, and as a result, it's rotting from the inside out.

That's good to hear. Something I'll have to look into in the coming months.

You guys ever watched porn on acid lol, shit is NUTS, I imagine like whether if you had anyone with a steady supply of acid whether they'd get addicted to watching porn and cumming like 7 times in a row over the course of a mega-dose trip. Wouldn't that be wild? haha... just imagine lol

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I feel like watching porn on psychedelics could be one of the worst ideas you could ever have.

Based and redpilled

Yeah, just like eating fungus that grows in cow shit on the basis of enlightenment, right? A true intellectual, you are.

Based haha/rogan poster.

With that being said though, don't do this. Porn alone isn't the best habit to keep, combining it with psychedelics could cause some form of LSD induced erectile dysfunction, in the sense that you'll only be able to get hard when high.

They're are other, more sanitary ways of acquiring mushrooms, friend.

probably have some shit left to do before i could do it and have a positive experience i feel

I don't even know where to get it. Would love to, though.

History of schizo and other mental illness in my family so, no.

Not to mention that you're supposed to clean the cow shit off of them first.
Working at a restaurant is the most reliable way I've found. Bussers and dishwashers are reliable, and safe, connects.

>History of schizo and other mental illness in my family so, no.
Shit, yeah. Definitely do not do psychedelics, then. I was friends with a guy that's now on a permanent trip. It's like he's wandering around in a permanent daze, can't follow a conversation, and his memory's scrambled.

I'm starting to believe that acid is only for artists and people with adhd

R. Crumb decided to become an artist after his first trip, if it means anything to you.

Just get 1P-LSD. It's legal and you can get it off the clearnet.

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Clearnet?

Acid and psychedelics were cool in the beginning cause it provides a completely different perspective on reality but over time it loses the wow factor. I found myself tripping to find "the answer" and that never happened. I do like to trip on small doses after significant personal growth. It's like the hard drive defrag tool but for your brain.

lysergi.com
You'll need some kind of e-coin to buy, though.

>It's like the hard drive defrag tool but for your brain.
That's how I look at it too. Every once in awhile, your brain needs a reboot and virus scan.

>1P-LSD
is that a lighter version?

Lysergi is closing soon. Buy from Chemlogix or The Indole Shop.

>not just doing 4-AcO-DMT or 4-HO-MiPT

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It's pretty much identical to acid in effects, as least so I have heard.

Completely agree. Since I've gotten older, I don't think I'd be able to handle a large dose. However, micro's have drastically improved my life. Keep in mind, I only indulge every 3-6 months, and it seems to work well for me. It's just not something to take lightly; that shit is powerful.
>acid is only for artists and people with adhd
I can second this, but they're have been many in other fields that equated lsd usage with their big breakthroughs. I.e. Steve Jobby jobs, John F. Kennedy, uhhhhh drawing a blank... too much acid.

And depression and anxiety.

Acid gave me years of delusion of enlightenment. It's a virus. Don't touch it. Study Western philosophy and strengthen your ego so you can also exercise abandoning the ego. Reject the LSD ego death meme.

Ideally you engage in both. Those who use psychedelics as a shortcut to enlightenment are, 99% of the time, degenerates.

acid is shallow in the same way that music is shallow

Humans are shallow. Acid and music are simply acid and music.

Wtf, why?

what could I possibly learn from acid that I can't learn better from philosophy. it's like you guys just want an easier way out than reading your way to enlightenment

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I hope it's legal in my country to import such things. Will try it.

Carlos! Stop providing correct insight!

>everyone has done acid kid
feels bad man

>This chemical is for laboratory use only. It has not been approved for human consumption.
What did they mean by this?

Experience.
You ever read Parmenides? Xenophanes? Ashtavakra? Avadhuta? Spinoza? You can experience, directly, the metaphysics they talk about. First time SWIM took acid, SWIM had a complete ego death -- no self, no sight, no feeling, no sounds, only supreme unity with all that there is/God.
>inb4 these are different metaphysics
They are different in terminology alone.

It's just like how headshops have to have a sign up saying 'these pipes are for tobacco use only.'

I'd assume it's their way of covering their ass.

Sites that sell mushroom spores do the same, stating that their for microscopy only.

Or how some Amazon sellers have giant blades for "letter-opening". Gotcha. Have you tried 1P? Is it a good kind of LSF?

>Have you tried 1P? Is it a good kind of LSF?
I can't speak to its quality. I'm procrastinating cause of the e-coin thing, which I know is just an extra step, but eh.

LSD*

But how and where to get acid?

How to I get that particular e-coin, though?
lysergi dot com

Here's the email I got from them:

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Yeah sure thing I'll just go pick some up at Walmart.

What country are you in?

When are they closing? Would it be safe to order if I'm in Mexico?

Mexico

wallet.bitcoin.com/
Just register a wallet, and add as much money as you need, then give them your wallet address and the transaction's complete.

And these philosophers needed acid to figure it out? You know we're experiencing these metaphysics just by existing, right?

>enlightenment can be learned and not an experience

>Chemlogix
This is on their website's FAQ:

Why can't I place my order and how do I get my Account Authorized?

ONLY Authorized Accounts can complete the checkout process. To get your account authorized, you will need to:

- Register an account on our site
- Email [email protected]:
a VALID, UNEDITED government photo ID (for proof of age)
-a brief description of your research

Any ideas what counts as "research"?

Both arguments are cliche. Really, most people itt haven't taken enough acid to realize how much of a waste of time Yea Forums is

we're in Yea Forums, faggot, kys.

To the anti-psych people; Have you tried it, or are you just too averse of the risks? Would you try it just once? Why or why not?

I've seen it destroy highly sensitive people who couldn't handle it, and I've seen it mislead people into thinking doing acid every other weekend for 30 years while they rot in a dead-end job was a quest for enlightenment, which they had nothing to show for in the end. I am very curious about it because I'm curious about consciousness, but I think people who can handle psychedelics easily are being irresponsible when they blithely recommend them to everybody, especially peculiar people whose autism could flip over into schizophrenia with too careless a shove.

There is also a whole class of people that can casually do three different drugs in the course of a single house party, while drinking alcohol to boot, and not have significant problems. Those people especially shouldn't go around casually recommending major mind-altering drugs to autistic loners who are interested in mysticism. I know people for whom taking a major dose of LSD at a cabin affected them less than smoking half a gram of weed affected me. For those people, for whatever reason, drugs are like alcohol at x1.5 or x2 intensity, and you need to get seriously fucked up to experience a real trip. Pisses me off when I see them handing drugs to a neurotic dude who doesn't fit that profile.

Ive done acid, salvia, and shrooms and theyre fun but they have nothing to do with religion or God in my mind at all. theyre just drugs.

You can't 'just' take acid, you know? Believe me, I'm just as irritated with the people that treat it as no big deal as you are, cause it gives people that treat it respectfully a bad image. I can see doing it at a music festival or a theme park, but outside of that, using it recreationally feels weird to me.
Psychedelics in general need to be treated respectfully, cause you're pretty much popping your skull open and tinkering around with the shit that's inside. Needless to be said, if you're gonna do acid, get a trip sitter. Someone that's done it a couple of times, knows what to expect, and that you trust.
If you're interested in consciousness, it's definitely recommended. It helps to understand yourself as, at the same time, a single individual, but also someone with deep connections with everyone, and everything in the world. It'll also really help with depression and anxiety. Like, a whole lot.

My problem is that I want to experiment with the changes in "being" that psychs can provide, but without losing previous states of being. I have a friend who did prescription drugs for his depression and while his mood improved and he stopped being suicidal, he also talks about how he literally can't remember what he used to "be," what it was "like" to be him. I want to grow and encompass both states, not just change states. What scares me is that I'll take psychs, change, and then be unable to change back, to compare, to "keep" both ways of being as a part of me.

Do you believe in God in the first place?

yeah I do and for reasons that have nothing to do with drugs, though the experience was I guess comparable to being high in some ways.

cool

The problem is that what you want, isn't possible. And I'm saying that in general, man. You gotta let go of what could have been in order to get what could be. Holding on to the past is a good way of ending up on your death bed with a lot of regrets. In order to grow, you gotta let go of that shit.
Think of it like this, you don't see butterflies carrying around their cocoons, do you?

Why are people who take psychedelics always insufferable wankers?

Fuck, dumb druggies started joining after the site got too big. I'm going to miss the free shipping option that only took a week to get to me. Maybe it's time to learn how to use the darknet.

dare to say no did a number on you kid

I feel the same about having sex

shut the fuck up

bump

Simple syllogism for you.

>people are cattle
>you are a people
>therefore you are a cattle

Get off your high horse and maybe entertain some notion of respect or basic fucking humanity

learning isn't an experience

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To fellow psychfriendly anons, what was the most profound realization you had while tripping? Could be anything at all; something personal or more abstract, just the most important idea or feeling you took away from your trip(s).

I realized the importance of a positive outlook on life, and also how important physical health is

I havent done acid and im 20

forgot >

>I can second this, but they're have been many in other fields that equated lsd usage with their big breakthroughs. I.e. Steve Jobby jobs, John F. Kennedy, uhhhhh drawing a blank... too much acid.
Kary Mullis with PCR, (allegedly) Francis Crick with the structure of DNA... August Kekulé wasn't on anything that we know of but his discoveries sound pretty trippy, similar thing for Tesla too.

>Maybe once I’ve figured my shit out and am truly happy
it would help you reach that goal in half the time

Very few people below a certain age have done acid. The arrest of William Pickard and the Grateful Dead touring less around 2000 destroyed supply, you pretty much couldn't get anything legit if you could even find anyone who sold it. It's changed a fair amount with Silicon Valley culture becoming more prevalent and research chems being a thing, but most of the """"LSD"""" out there is really stuff like NBOMe atm. Unless you can find a good source just get 1p-LSD

youtube.com/watch?v=TuJqUvBj4rE

psychedelics are not addictive, and have proven mental benefits, in the correct dose

>You’re so reddit it hurts
>spaces like a retard
you have to go back

Bob Dylan for millennials

Holy shit most of the "realisations" people describe as having on psychedelics are shockingly basic. I mean look at "uhh, I know I gotta be smiles, wash my balls and eat my greens"

Wow man, you needed to get high to figure that out. How did you even tie your shoelaces without acid you literal fucking mouthbreather. How did you end up on this board, you can't read..?

Go on psychedelic forums, or watch some youtube trip reports, all the people are complete and utter dullards. I am so tired of this McMysticism, psychological zombie (actual NPCs) get hit with a moment of self awareness for the first time in their life and then appropriate religious and philosophical language to try and describe the experience because it has always sounded inaccessible and "tough" and they don't actually have a capable vocabulary to describe accurately what the felt.
Seriously, all these fucking drooling morons say the same shit, I can't explain it man you need to experience it yourself.
That's funny, because there are surprisingly a few people who actually have IQs higher than room temperature that also took psychs like Aldous Huxley and he wrote two fucking books about it.

You know what else, he didn't sound anything like the usual mongoloids who suggest shrooms or ayahuasca to you either. None if this new agey faux spiritual horseshit is there to be found in The Doors of Perception, in fact it seems far closer to my own LSD experience

I'm not against psychedelics or drug use as a rule, but I convinced that the exact opposite of what Terence McKenna (himself a man who was far less intelligent than his drooling supporters think) said is true, that if you think you had a relgious or spiritual experience on psychedlics than you are a very stupid individual and should be disregarded.

We know what these drugs do, they can alleviate depression and symptoms of it, they break down established neural patterns, they can be incredibly helpful and that's a good thing. You start talking about how you think they allow you to access a different realm or some shit, and I'm done talking

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This.Drugs are for fun, not enlightenment.

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There's a german company that let's you just do a bank transfer, they might not ship to the US but europfags can go there

Or just buy from different clearnet vendors.

Why?

Man, if this isn't the biggest condemnation of drugfags what is, embarrassing

what about speed and ketamine?

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Unfortunately, allot of the people who delve into psychedelics (or drugs in general) are on the lower end of the IQ spectrum. One user said it earlier in the thread. Their either used as a form of escapism, or as a shortcut to "enlightenment". The former leads to degeneracy, and the latter isn't possible, if it is possible at all, without years of education and diligence.

I'm still an asshole.

>absolute state of Yea Forums moderation

>Any ideas what counts as "research"?
I said that I was using research chemicals on bacteria/fungi in Petri dishes to see if they had any antimicrobial properties. Your research description doesn't have to be anything fancy. If it's the sort of thing you could use RCs for in a science fair project, it's good enough.

You could try 3-MeO-PCP. You will have to buy it from Europe though.

From someone who's done acid a handful of times.
This is terrible advice.

HPPD?
Is it really that hard to live with? I've heard it isn't so bad.

This. Or DXM
I find I can narrate and visual my own personal stories in my mind so vividly on DXM

stimulant psychosis is the only worthwhile trip

my tabs glowed too

why?
seems pretty obscure

It's a research chemical. An analogue of PCP from the name of it.
Not obscure but not not obscure if you get what I mean. There's a huge community of individuals who dabble in research chemicals like these; some of which are legal in some countries due to their lax drug laws.

Disassociative psychedelic; effects similar to PCP I presume. Never done it myself but would give it a go if I could get my hands on it (safely).

It's not as awful as it sounds. PCP gets a bad wrap in the media because the people who do it and go ape shit do way too much, combine it with meth or do a combination of those two. Also note that while it's an analogue of PCP it is not PCP, as such the effects probably differ in certain aspects.

But like I said, never tried it myself (I'm not the guy who recommended it).

No thanks I don't want to take CIA demon summoning poison.

>you're dumb and need someone greater and wiser than you to point you in the right direction.
>I trust Congress but I don't trust statistics and lab coats
Based retard.

The psychedelic users who never read a single book of philosophy in their lives have turned out to be some of the most insufferable people I have ever encountered. They will talk on and on about 'energies' and how "you don't understand, man" despite not knowing a damn thing about metaphysics.

Anything that isn't testing on animals unless you are doing actual research on mice or something. You can test stuff on yeast to your heart's content.

I don't think people describe the experience very well generally. I find they make stuff fuzzy and also allow you to change how you move around in your "mind" as it were, or at least makes you do it differently. That's part of why they can be so good for stress and depression, and why some people think it can help in talking therapies, you're not stuck in the same thinking routine suddenly. It's not like cannabis, that I'd describe as a mind laxative (like I definitely feel like I don't feel like I have brain constipation after a joint), and it's not like semax/selank that makes you confident and fearless. LSD in particular is a weird one because it's almost like a virus, you want other people to feel like you're feeling because you can see that they're "stuck", so I get why people were dosing each other back in the day and why it's one of those drugs that's passed around freely and has a semi religious following. Also maybe why people babble on about their experiences. It's hard to describe though, a lot of the effects are subtle.

You don't want to do a handful of acid.

>using DXM unironically

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It's for lames and preteens that can't find K

>implying they can't buy benadryl

They could, but Benadryl is merely Datura for virgins.
The true Chad analog of dxm is ket, gigachad is PCP

I wouldn't trust acid desu I don't know what I'm getting. I'll just wait till the fall and go hunting for liberty caps in my grandma's backyard.

cus if they wanna get acid they will seek it out themselves. its not hard. openly talking about analogues and mentioning specific sites is a bad idea and will just make these substances disappear sooner

Easily have done acid over 200 times in my life. Will never do it again.

2000% has brand out hidden neurological disorders, i’m way more manic than I was before and I feel emotions a lot more strongly.

Also acid flashbacks are real and a bitch the moment before you close your eyes a fucking wall of fractals flash.

Acid has given me some insight but has shown me the RL is more crazy than fantasy.

more like
Shallow: the Hedgehog

>Never did any drugs, tried weed edibles earlier this year (legal state)
>Found it to be interesting, experimented with doses and different activities
>In under a month, things devolved into full-blown psychosis
>Messaged a lot of people close to me who believed so much of the bullshit I was spewing, with "mathematical proof" that I understood the simulated reality we live in, nobody thought I'd be talking about such a serious topic if I didn't mean it or that I'd do any sort of drug at first
>Things get so bad my parents were certain I must have been drugged up with some serious shit
>One friend bought my bullshit so hard he started to make plans for the next few days, convinced the world was going to end
>Ended up in an emergency room and still trying to recover from the social after effects months later

No diagnosed psychosis cases in the family as far as I know, but if that was my reaction to THC, I don't think any psychedelics would do anything good for me.

I have done acid twice, mushrooms many times including microdosing, this one called 2cb, coke, opiates, adderal, and every variation of weed. Acid is probably the least insightful imo. It gives one the perception of being close to a breakthrough but in reality I just realized that everything has some truth to it. Acid sucks and lasts way too long. Mushrooms are much better. The high is completely managable and it will make you confront real issues in your life and personality. The only thing I hate is all the lying about what these drugs do to you. It reslly isn't that bad. Well acid is pretty trippy the first time.

this happened because of loudmouths

Acid is literally CIA invented

>Do we really want a society with widespread usage of hard drugs?
You have to decide whether they're really all that "hard" in the first place.
Then I think it's probably a case of trying to implement proper distribution of the drugs in a way that is safe, the most important thing is education, not that drugs are good, but the serious consequences of using them.
Surely there can be checks and balances implemented to ensure you are giving the drugs to someone who is of at least relatively sound mind.

maybe not but Ive had hundreds of trips and edibles remain my worst drug experience, friend almost called an ambulance lol

You don't know what you are talking about and you write like a second grader. Get some good acid and eat at least four blotters, the cid you have taken was probably bunk.