Is there a single intelligent individual in existence who doesn't despise interacting with people?

>There isn’t a truly intelligent person who doesn’t like people
Oversocialised brainlet cope

Yes, those individuals exist. You've just became aware of your 'intellect' and have gotten so imbued on it's positive signification that you think you're superior to the rest of the mortals. You'll grow out of it. There are many other things to be valued about individuals.
In the meantime i'd say that's pretty fun to mess with 'those who are inferior'. Like doing the test of turing to discover if there's any awareness buried down there. It might get boring overtime nonetheless.

no its dangerous to socialize, people sense your spiritual superiority and enter in hostile mode all the time, and btw there is nothing to learn from others

Smart people can be social, just look at the average Ivy League student. Geniuses/creatively intelligent people are always lonely and usually failures at everything except artistic/intellectual innovation.

I don't even think I'm intelligent (though people would argue otherwise when they see my interests), but I can relate quite a lot with OP. Will these feelings of mine get any better, or at least not become increasingly worse(as they are)?

Being an antisocial misanthrope is, I'm sorry to report, not a sign of genius, superiority, or enlightenment.

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Well usually you encounter two kinds of reactions: hostility or admiration.
You might have arrogant, bitter manners. Which has nothing to do with intelligence. You might just be not be pleasant.

t. Brainlet who loves socialising

I'm not arrogant at all, people get mad at me before I even talk, usually I get rude responses when I start a conversation
other people just get it easier

>sour grapes: the post
Try being less of a pretentious wanker and people might like you more.

the person that you're having a conversation with also feels the same about themselves just like you. you're not significant.

nope its automatic, they get hostile with the first impression I don't need to do anything, and I'm sure my looks aren't the problem

Intellect does not equate to wisdom.

What is so good about people?

Believe it or not I don't care about you. I don't care if you like me. I don't see your existence as interesting AT ALL. To me, for all intents and purposes, you're a loud annoying dog.

This is usually because “normies” are very sensitive to subtle social nuances, and when they detect that you are not normal—very few autists are capable of deceiving a normie’s “might be a serial killer/mass murderer” radar—their biological response is to perceive you as a threat. Good luck.

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>view most people as nuisances
>in the odd situation I meet someone I can genuinely look up to, feel a stunning rush

Isn't that the same thing? What's the difference

this whole thread is midwit cringe

No, but most that have the former seek the second in some form.

Unless you're American

>Is there a single intelligent individual in existence who doesn't despise interacting with people?

And yet you come to the korean crochet forum to interact with people, to share with them your despise of human interaction. What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

Conflating interacting with people on Yea Forums with people in real life is like treating a play as if it actually happened.

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Cynicism is actually negatively correlated with intelligence. That doesn't mean the cynic is inherently stupid, they may have had a traumatic childhood and find it hard to trust people, which would also make it harder for this person to progress in life.
I relate. I dislike most people. I have had persistently bad interactions with literally everybody in the first 18 years of my life. I just don't like being around people. I've only found 2 or 3 people who can understand me to some extent. When I talk to anyone other than those 3 people it's as if they're hearing a foreign language and unable to comprehend anything I'm saying.
You're the one coping. You're not a super-genius. Get over it.

Read anything by Chomsky unrelated to linguistics.

I'm going to add more. One reason why cynicism and intelligence are generally negatively correlated may be because people with higher intelligence climb the social ladder and live comfier lives. If your parents are intelligent, they're more likely to have a comfortable social position, and you're more likely to have a comfortable childhood. My parents are intelligent but they are dysfunctional and raised me in a shitty town that's notorious for being filled with low-quality people.

Envy and cowardice does not make one smart. Instead of hating what they have, why not try to learn something from them? If you think there is nothing to learn, you lack humility, and as such you have no ability to improve yourself - which is why you most likely have done absolutely nothing with your "intellect".
You are married to your world of dreams and ideas, because they can't ever leave you, and don't require anything from you. People are hard, losing them even harder. You think that you can't fail if you never try, but this choice is much worse than any failure.

The point of a play it's to delude the brain and fool yourself to believe it actually happens while it lasts. You are doing this as well, fooling yourself to believe, even if it is a mere instant, that we are talking right now.

>The point of a play it's to delude the brain and fool yourself to believe it actually happens while it lasts

oh lol, so this is a person who believes themselves to intelligent for society

How to tell if you are a garden variety embittered social handicap:

>you get resentful and angry at things like other people sharing the park with you or waiting in line at the grocery store

>you latch onto reasons for hating people for no practical reason or for reasons that serve to assuage your ego (e.g. the kids in class never talk to me, so they must all shit-for-brains normies)

>you are incapable of expressing concern for or interest in other people beyond how they affect your immediate life

>You can't complete a retail or customer service transaction without looking like you have aspergers

That said.

People with any significant depth of soul unquestionably, UNQUESTIONABLY, dislike people in general as a rule. Most people you encounter are uncritical and are only capable of regurgitating the opinions that are given to them, their values are either rudimentary or non-existent and they serve as little more than economic functions in society.

And don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about, because this is a literature board and most people here have an interest in the arts. Anyone who understands what I'm saying can immediately think of countless conversations they've had with people who can describe nothing besides the goings of their day or what amounts to ephemeral trivia about popular culture. So most people are just completely lacking any sort of depth of opinion in culture. This is what the smart kids who go into college realize, that it's actually no different to high school and that people are just as vapid even when they pursue a degree in the subject they choose to study.

But what you don't learn in college, what takes age and maturity, is that people are EQUALLY devoid of any sort of emotional nuance as well. You can sit with most people and listen to them, realizing that they have no developed opinions of their own on anything, turn the conversation to "normie" shit like emotions and life experience, and it's the same story. People will reel off memory after memory, anecdote after anecdote, and it will be nothing more than a stream of events; no commentary, no upshot, nothing of any worth. Two people can talk about something as simple as a trip to a different country, and one will simply describe the places, the food they ate, the weather, while another person with enough critical and emotional nuance can tell you how it made them feel, the style of the cooking and taste, the flavours, the feeling or mood of a place and its people.

Anyone with enough critical capacity and emotional intelligence gets fucking tired of this, doesn't want to be around this as a rule, or at least around as little of it as possible. And I think it becomes more and more tedious and intolerable the older you get and the more you realize that people are the same all over and you no longer have the luxury of telling yourself it will be different somewhere else, or with different people.

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What if I simply try to see these responses to my posts as voices in my head instead of individual persons?

>tfw to smart to have meaningful relationships

I don't care about them at all, there is nothing interesting about human life that you can't learn by books or documentaries, most genius were lonely I rather be like them

Wasn't that the entire goal of this thread?

Then you're doing active thinking, trying to discern reality from fiction.
If somebody can do that all day every day of his life, i have yet to see it.

Is there a phenomena that describes people like OP? You know, the classic 'I'm a social retard, so I'm going to delude myself into thinking I'm a misanthropic genius'. Surely there's a name for it?

Delusional retards, I'm at least superior in so far to OP that I at least don't mistake my SPD for the mark of genius.

I agree with you, user, and that’s probably your best option; however, it isn’t natural: humans were designed as social creatures. Transcending your biological imperatives is no easy task, but it certainly is possible. I recommend meditation and forgoing all physical attachments you have in this word. Pessoa is a good model of this philosophy cultivated to its pinnacle, and he was a great writer and poet—everything a man with an appetite for aesthetics and culture aspires to be.

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Redditor.

Yeah, I despise interacting with people outside of professional context. In a professional context it's easier because one has certain imposed constraints that are more bearable. Also, I only interact with people on a professional basis for financial reasons.

>People will reel off memory after memory, anecdote after anecdote, and it will be nothing more than a stream of events; no commentary, no upshot, nothing of any worth. Two people can talk about something as simple as a trip to a different country, and one will simply describe the places, the food they ate, the weather, while another person with enough critical and emotional nuance can tell you how it made them feel, the style of the cooking and taste, the flavours, the feeling or mood of a place and its people.

What should they discuss as a signifier of emotional nuance then?

I don't like people either, but that's just because 90% of the time I can't even keep up with them and they think I'm an idiot, making them act in a denigrating manner towards me. I've come to accept i'm actually retarded, like full on slow brain autism. My mind takes a lot longer than other people's to process what is going on, and to focus on relevant information gained from my surroundings.
You could call it ADD I suppose, but it's just a euphemism for mild mental retardation.
Once I spend enough time learning a certain subject though, I'm usually a lot better at it than most people. It's weird, but it's like my brain needs a lot of time to get the required information in there. Once it's in there though, I can reason and come up with new creative solutions to problems.

Speed and efficiency of learning is overrated in American culture. I think it's more that you take time to learn all of the nuances, which is respectful. America is not a culture that respects nuance and careful consideration. It is a culture of risk-taking and generalities.

will check out, thanks for the tip

don't try to make it sound better than it actually is. My life has been ruined because of this issue of mine. I've had to let go of many opportunities, friendships and hobbies because my mind couldn't keep up with the pace of my (honestly rather simple) life. I sank into an egocentric slump, reading stuff I could understand and watching slow-paced but "intellectual" movies/listening to "patrician" ambient music.
Lost touch with friends and family, got a very inflated sense of self with nothing to show for it, other than the knowledge I had gained over the years of try-hard consuming.
I despise myself, but still fall into self-pity over the way my life could've turned out if only my mind was a bit faster and more flexible.

So why are you interacting with people here?

It's not a point about discussing anything in particular, it's a point about the capacity for critical reflection.

I'm the same. I process things slowly, but at the same time I process them more deeply than others.

Because here we have REAL intellectual discussions

Wew user that was a good one.

Our rapidly evolving modern society isn't accepting of people like us. If you don't fully process and respond to something within seconds, people already look at you weirdly. You might realize all the nuances behind a problem that aren't in your consciousness right now. Your mind freezes trying to juggle them all and come up with a structured response. While writing, this mental barrier disappears. You can take as long as you like, rephrasing and restructuring the things you are trying to express. I guess it's why so many of us are drawn to online fora.

Just make friends with minorities instead. White Americans have serious cultural issues where speed is valued more than careful consideration and nuance. Minorities tend not to be judgmental with slow, careful thinkers. I have also noticed slow, careful thinkers are less likely to make rash judgments or take risks.

just world fallacy

>surrounded by retards
>y-you're just a pretentious wanker! act like a retard as well!

>People will reel off memory after memory, anecdote after anecdote, and it will be nothing more than a stream of events; no commentary, no upshot, nothing of any worth.
Let me rant about my childhood traumas to a random stranger, unprompted of course

The things you listed almost never happen outside of a therapists office

So it depends of the people.

>Let me rant about my childhood traumas to a random stranger, unprompted of course

Because you either talk about surface-level shit or the deep psychological fact that your (you in particular) father molested you, right?

Fuck off dude. I am not saying everyone bears their soul at the drop of a pin or that it doesn't take time for some people to open up about their experiences, or reflect on them. but it's pretty easy to tell the people who aren't capable of it whatsoever.

>The things you listed almost never happen outside of a therapists office
To whoever else is reading this post, don't be this guy, he sounds completely emotionally unavailable and has probably never had a real friend in his life.

didnt read the thread, but do you have this feel of "disdain" (im guessing) for all people except those 2? Do you not like interacting with your mother?

Id say false. I believe that is the logic of someone who cannot seperate themselves from their own ego or who just meet particularly annoying people. As long as we are not discussing something complex and can stand normals pretty well. And if they are the kind of person who doesnt know much and KNOWS they dont no much, it is pretty easy and layed back. Then interactions are pure and wholesome. The problem is when people reach the pseudo-intellectual bellcurve where they want to seem intelligent but are in fact not.

As an example Kant talking about the average man.

Most people waste their time, it's partly why people like Freud and Lacan had variable length sessions.

You are not smart. No intelligent person would listen to Erik Satie.
>If I'm sat in a park alone and another person comes in, my enjoyment of the park is cut in half because their existence annoys me that much.
And there we go. You hate them because you are scared of them judging you sitting alone in the park, because you are ultimately a coward who has never been very good with people so you had to make up for it by thinking yourself an intelligent "introvert". When even the mere presence of a person cripples you entirely, it is time to admit you have no strength of will lol. How do you expect to ever do anything of note when you have no self confidence?
Notice the extreme reaction to this ese posts. All the defense mechanisms; all the insecurity and fear. It is hilarious.
I would agree with you, if he didn't say that he was scared when others entered the room.
>no its dangerous to socialize, people sense your spiritual superiority and enter in hostile mode all the time, and btw there is nothing to learn from others
This might just be the most pathetic thing I've ever read. It is "dangerous to socialize"? People "enter into hostile mode"? We are living in the spiritually-neutered 21st century, and you say something like this... how can I not say you are pathetic? And you top it all off with the resentful "there is nothing to learn from others", clearly trying to justify your cowardice, as if you would even be able to speak without people having taught it to you.
Fucking destroyed.

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>Fucking destroyed.
meant for
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>you would even be able to speak without people having taught it to you.
they didn't do it out of charity, I owe them nothing but my family

Superiority complex.

Would you enjoy a day at the beach when it's this busy? No?

When one person enters the park, my mind reacts the same way as your mind reacts to pic related.

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>but do you have this feel of "disdain" (im guessing) for all people except those 2?
Yes, it just feels unnatural and uncomfortable because I know I have nothing I want to say to these people but I'm in a conversation anyway.

>Do you not like interacting with your mother?
No. I haven't spoken to my mother in 3 years, I only respond to her with texts despite her trying to call me every week. The only thing I text her is "I'm fine".

>Is there a single intelligent individual in existence who doesn't despise interacting with people?

most people despise interacting with people who despise interacting with people, but not me.

Plz delete this

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*blocks your path*

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>No intelligent person would listen to Erik Satie.
OPINION DISCARDED IN ADVANCE
>. You hate them because you are scared of them judging you sitting alone in the park, because you are ultimately a coward who has never been very good with people so you had to make up for it by thinking yourself an intelligent "introvert"
Conclusion Status -> JUMPED
>When even the mere presence of a person cripples you entirely, it is time to admit you have no strength of will lol. How do you expect to ever do anything of note when you have no self confidence?
It is not an issue of confidence. Some people just don't enjoy being around others.
oh stut up faggot. Not enjoying being around others isn't the fault of other people. There IS stuff to learn from others. Itt's a personal preferance to just WANT to be alone.

And NO, it doesn't mean you're smarter.

>There IS stuff to learn from others.
tell me one, no one I met has a extraordinary personality that I can't read in a book, by the contrary most people are boring and deceitful and its not my fault

Despising people is wasted effort. I can understand those that are not very social, I myself don't care about socializing. Lot of people for some reason don't like me doing stuff with my on pace, so they just try to pull me in their "rythm", which makes them annoying. Social gatherings overall tend to be mind numbing, because people who usually act rudely themselves are picking out manners of others, and conversations never go anywhere, it feels like ritual with preordaned answers and actions more than anything else. Although many propably think I'm slow or dim because I can't keep up with others.

>oh stut up faggot. Not enjoying being around others isn't the fault of other people

not him, but i was tormented by other people all my life. all my life i observe their incredible stupidity and hostility. if so, how is it not their fault if i don't enjoy socializing? a lot of people are stupid and evil. it is their fault too i don't like to be around them.

of course, you can say that it is my "fault" too, because i didn't make enough effort to fight against my aversion. but first of all, the other people are clearly at fault too; and, secondly, that aversion bears important information, namely expect bad things from other people. it is good to know that last thing. when you go to the nest of tarantulas, it is good to know they may attack you.

>There IS stuff to learn from others

i agree with that and that is quite obvious. other people may know something you don't. still it is completely normal not to enjoy socializing because of how many people are.

and yes, i often feel some people attack me because they sense my intellectual and moral superiority and hate me because of that. if they see you are better, they will try to degrade you. this is how scoundrels act. and the world is full of scoundrels.

What if people like you but it's like a total drain and hassle to keep up the act of being socially acceptable and friendly. I usually would just ignore people but like work situations and stuff I wouldn't risk being rude

Unless you are a socially well adjusted person in society with a traditional family and values and a healthy diet,lifestyle and body it's very unlikely you can succeed in either philosophy or literature. Almost all writers had families, jobs besides their writing career, friends and a good social and personal life. Good writing can only come from a healthy mind and body. The current meme of social outcast NEETs not having friends or a social life because they are 'le too smart for them' being creative and smart is wrong.
A truly intelligent person isn't one who is 'too intelligent' for others, he's one who can work with everybody. Same goes for the other views of being a contrarian, not calling out suicide as bad, hatred of the poor and lack of empathy as being 'cool' and signifying a 'refined high class mind' acting only on 'cold logic and facts'.

I dunno if I ever liked anyone. Trimmed my friends down to one person, wasn’t even my best friend or the one I hung out with the most by far, and he’s kind of stupid but we just play vidya together. Not that I think this makes me intelligent, I just think I have a progressively worsening schizoid personality and I’m lucky to have someone who doesn’t trigger it and doesn’t need a lot of maintenance.

You're not intelligent, just mentally ill.

Where can I meet hermit misanthropes?

Absolutely this. This will hurt many of the introverted narcissists image of themselves on here.

On Yea Forums but even here 9 out of 10 people are social butterfly larping normalfaggots

>Unless you are a socially well adjusted person in society with a traditional family and values and a healthy diet,lifestyle and body it's very unlikely you can succeed in either philosophy or literature
HAH

Every writer worth his salt was either single or married and childless, abhorred work and traditional society and any attempt to push them into it.

I disagree. Not to inflate lonesomeness but being well adjusted to this society is not a good thing.

Cringe and weakpilled

You are not alone OP. I found this recently and it made a lot of things in my life make sense. I hope it does yours too.
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I will accept this challenge.

I'm lucky and have four; my dad, my brother, my best friend and my uncles gay priest boyfriend (smartest person I know).
It's not so bad I suppose.

Go to a quiet corner in your local library and look for some curmudgeon who seems upset that there's kids running around.

My main problem with normies is that they are preoccupied with the here and now. Like animals they are only conscious of their immediate circumstances and perhaps their social relationships. Meanwhile I have my head in the clouds and I'm driven by ideas. So I never have anything to talk about or no one to relate to and everything remains at the level of small talk most of the time.

"He [the average normie simp] can turn his attention to things only so far as they have some relation to his will, however indirect it may be… The man of genius, on the other hand, whose excessive power of knowledge frees it at times from the service of will, dwells on the consideration of life itself, strives to comprehend the Idea of each thing, not its relations to other things; and in doing this he often forgets to consider his own path in life, and therefore for the most part pursues it awkwardly enough. While to the ordinary man his faculty of knowledge is a lamp to lighten his path, to the man of genius it is the sun which reveals the world… The man in whom genius lives and works is easily distinguished by his glance, which is both keen and steady, and bears the stamp of perception, of contemplation."

I always thought of it like this: I live inside my head while people around me live outside theirs. They require constant sensory input and entertainment or they'll get bored because there's nothing on the inside to occupy them.
I don't know if this is about intelligence per se but it's certainly a difference in outlook. Robert Pirsig talked about it in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance when he mentioned the people riding bikes with him were preoccupied with flowers and shit while ignoring their bikes because motorcycle repair is boring while he saw divinity even in the cogs of the machine and the process of maintaining it.

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This desu :^)

I love red onion.

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Langan is the definition of Chad

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This is pretty true in most cases, but the way you phrased it makes you sound like a faggot holy shit. I physically withdrew from my chair after reading that shit.

And yet by virtue of having a trip you are the faggot.

Is this Otto Whinynigger?

Explain to the court how you withdrew from your chair

Phased right through it like T-1000.

>The things you listed almost never happen outside of a therapists office
this is the purest condensation of how fucking sick modernity is ive ever seen. If you dont talk about this stuff with friends, family, girlfriends, and you think you need some fucking retard who is charging you money to interact with you based on theories with zero predictive power you are not even human, you're some kind of domesticated atomized rat.

Americanized minorities are, as a rule, somehow more insufferable than the homegrown variety. America’s obsession with self-identity gets mixed in with their own inadequacies and alienation, and you get this monstrous amalgamation of cultures with all the shallow loudness of Americans but also an unwarranted self-importance and victim complex that comes from being cast into the role of id (if black) or super-ego (if brown) of America’s racial schizophrenia

>When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and surly.
I guess Marcus Aurelius was into something.

>No, I just have a low tolerance for other people.
When you say low tolerance, do you mean by how people behave or just their mere presence?

But you aren’t intelligent user, you’re just a fag

The issue with the homegrown variety is they may be corrupted by the Americans, which is always painful to watch. Regardless, I, myself, have worked hard to not become Americanized.
Also, what does Americanization mean beyond becoming an insipid decadent liberal or Jew-worshiping conservative? The only way to be healthy in American culture is to become extremely isolated and elitist, but only knowledge and wisdom to back up that decision.

Cope

I used withdrew in replacement for left because it sounds cooler.

Why are you so mad?

The only explanation is you're butthurt for being outed as a brainlet for socialising.

White heterosexual male

I love interacting with people but not in the interest of any kind of social mutualism.

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I just hate smalltalk and answering questions that can easily be answered if the person actually care to think for 10 seconds, which makes it so i can't really socialize. God i don't understand what people like about smalltalk, literally nothing but pointless info that gets flushed down the shitter the moment the conversation is over...

Now this is the dilemma

And now you know, OP is a fucking retard.

Talking to you retards is no different than talking to NPC's in a video game. It's not comparable to interacting with real humans at all.

Hi user, you're probably not really smart, but just think you are because you've made yourself into a bubble of self-reinforcing delusion that is reinforced by you determining the views of others as worthless.

Truly smart people are excellent listeners and students who see teachers and learning opportunities in as many places as they can.

>Truly smart people are excellent listeners and students who see teachers and learning opportunities in as many places as they can.
Pfffffffftttttt

What makes you think you have anything worth hearing? You're garbage and have nothing I need.

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Is there a problem?

Are you retarded?

? is not a sentence.

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>My parents are intelligent but they are dysfunctional and raised me in a shitty town that's notorious for being filled with low-quality people.

Same bro, except I was raised out of the town proper, in a fuckin holler (which ironically is cheaper and the family owned the land at the time, outside of being surrounded by trees and hills it was supremely shitty) with shit-tier human beings. Fuck WV, a truly godforsaken state. Things are okay-ish now that I finally live in town and can hop a bus to the library. I feel for you bro and hope things are better for you now than they were before.

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Any other user enjoy making people open themselves, but never have done it themselves?

I'm not a 10/10 charisma god but when I get to really meet someone I always end up knowing their secrets. People who are racists, sexist, who have been abused. But I've never said anything like that to that to anyone.

What's wrong with being racist and sexist?

Most people are racist and sexist by nature.

Nothing, but you usually do go telling that to everybody, and I'm always surprised how fast people tell these things to me.