Are you a liberal? Do you believe in liberty and individuality?

Are you a liberal? Do you believe in liberty and individuality?

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I believe in limits.

Classical liberalism is a good ideology

I was, not anymore.

What are those limits?
Why do you think so?
Why not?

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>Why do you think so?
It is a rational way to govern. It is fair to the majority opinion and the minority opinion and it is devised so that no one system of government is overpowered.

I was, but then I read Marx, and later the Traditionalists.

Liberalism pushes the individual to break that balance which lays in the midst of what's right and wrong.

Unironically this

Marx is the logical continuation of this.

why do u think that user?

because liberals are gay lol

It's the reverse. Anti-modernity, and in some respects anti-technology (à la Rousseau, Kaczynski, etc.) is the logical continuation of anti-capitalism, since these things are all 'entangled,' so to speak (Misa, et. al., Modernity and Technology, pp. 1-30), so anyone who adopts the critique of modernity should logically adopt the critique of capitalism as a necessary aspect of it. Especially if you read the Postmodernists (and the critical theorists, etc.), there is a lot to be learned from a Traditionalist perspective, as even Dugin admits in his interview with Lauren Southern. From a Marxian standpoint this entails both the return to and the critique of Hegel, as the critical theorists have done, but not to their Hegel, rather, to the Hegel of the speculative theologians, "who read Hegel in the same way as they read the great mystical theosophists" (Corbin, The Concept of Comparative Philosophy, p. 7), and with a critique which incorporates Adorno's concept of 'negative dialectics' and frees Hegel from the 'evolutionism' critiqued by Guénon (Studies in Hinduism, p. 72).

Read these:

>Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Discourse on the Arts and Sciences
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>Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Discourse on Inequality
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>Ted Kaczynski, Industrial Society and Its Future
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>Thomas J. Misa, Philip Brey, and Andrew Feenberg, Modernity and Technology
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>Henry Corbin, The Concept of Comparative Philosophy
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>Theodor W. Adorno, Negative Dialectics
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>Works of René Guénon
archive.org/details/reneguenon/

tfw beginning to understand french

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Depends. If we're establishing the definition of 'liberal' as classically interested and supportive of the democratic process and individual freedoms from tyrannical governments, then yes. If we're appropriating the terminology to include liberal economic theory, then no, as the state of capital is antithetical to that pure ideal.

The absolute freedom of liberalism will ultimately jeopardize the benefits of the community life for people in a state. Attempting to place the individual ahead of the nation is wrong. For the individual to live, the nation first must itself live; this requires that one cannot do what he wants, but must align himself with the common interests of the people and accordingly accept limitations and sacrifices.

To organize persons into a cooperative, functional society requires that its members renounce certain personal ambitions for the welfare for others of society, such as defense, trade, prosperity, companionship and securing nourishment, people achieve through compromise for the good of all.

the problem with individualism is that it treats individuals as homogeneous and interchangeable units, whereas individuals differ in type and quality. some people are just superior to others. individual liberty is a good ideal tho, but it should be constrained within certain limits in order to produce civilizational excellence

Yes.

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Thank you very much.

Not really

But does it work in practice?

Im teaching english in Thailand.
Here they have a king, the military runs everything and they have voting for minor things.
I like it, its not like king is set out to enslave everyone, its in his best interest that everyone does well.
People have healthcare, social security, there are places for the ill...
In the United States they portray all military rule like some sort oppressive regime.

ofc

As well as freedom of association which precedes freedom itself. Since influence on U.S. courts have disbanded liberty in America this is an unliberal country therefore there's a national split of anti-liberals and true liberals each vying for rightful claim on the term.

Perfect liberalism is ideal and spawns the analytic-continental divide always permissive of absolute freedom among others from powerful buildings along the eastern seaboard; maintain security.

The Jewish pervision of the concept, constructed in the 60s by Dylan and Chomsky, will destroy the world. For liberals the only option is to counter real.

>its not like king is set out to enslave everyone
No fucking shit, retard!

No Ellul???

It paved the way to the shithole that is the present.

>posting the shit-tier declaration of the rights of man rather than the Magna Carta, the 1689 Bill of Rights, or the US constitution

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