Why are so many of the greatest writers to have ever lived anti-semitic?

because great minds think alike

Because anti-antisemitism was a fairly mainstream view pre-WWII.
Ironically what Hitler did to the Jews shocked people so much that this viewpoint became unacceptable after the war.

>get a one free internet
>it can only be used on /pol/
This shit feels like a scam t b h

This is an international forum. Go to to /pol/ (american board) to discuss this shite.
You Whites are to me like Jews are to you.

>le jewblidoos
Why can't /pol/ die

Based
Even our boy Ezra Pound called them out
that's why lit hates him and cannot refute his claims
keep coping litfags

literally shaking

Great artists are prone to loathe the base and ugly.

If you couldn't tell that guy was supposed to be an idiot I wonder how you even got that far

are there any good, well researched books that actually cover the bad things the jews have done and why they're bad?

Many of Joyce's closest friends were far-right reactionaries and/or fascists that espoused these sorts of views, though. T.S. Eliot, Ezra Pound, D.H. Lawrence, W.B. Yeats and Percy Wyndham Lewis were all known to be quite radical with their views, all of which leaned right. Joyce was among this motley crew.

Wtf but I was told reactionaries can't read and can't do art

he's literally correct

Most books critical of their influence from the end of the 19th century to the middle of the 20th century are quite open about what they've done.

Even things they just list leaders of damaging philosophies and political groups will show the truth.
Almost all leaders in all communist and socialist revolutions were led almost only by jews, who of course were a small minority in the countries they inhabited.
The Frankfurt school was founded almost exclusively by jews.

Of course modern media aren't too eager to show there facts or say these were or are bad things, but who owns or are majority shareholders in almost all western large media companies?
Even in insignificant countries like Sweden with very few jews companies like Bonnier, the by far largest media company in Sweden, who also published books and similar things, are owned by the Bonnier family. Maybe you can guess their religion?

They've been confined to the absolute fringes of the art world of today, but that's mainly because of the way art has changed and the way most modern art is.

Most people don't know that Dali was a fascist, but it's unlikely you'll find a comparable figure in the art world today.

>tfw the tolerant left has killed all opposing viewpoints from being expressed

>read weber
Why?

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Majority shareholders in all companies are White Americans and Oligarchs
Austrian School was founded by diseased White Europeans
Neoliberalism started in White America

>everything was founded by white people

It's almost as if... idk take a guess ;^)

Shut the fuck up

Most media in australia is owned by the murdoch family and rupert has qq'd about jewish owned media before
Idk what point you are trying to make here, talking about jews is taboo because of Hitler and the millions of western men who died on foreign soil, not because the Jews own every media outlet...

Yes, Murdoch is an exception.
I've already shown Swedish media is controlled by jews. In America CNN is owned by WarnerMedia whose leadership has many jews, for example Gerhard Zeiler,
Robert Greenblatt and
Jeff Zucker. The same is true for MSNBC.
Don't forget they those they control much of the information flow of the internet is companies founded by jews such as Google and Facebook.
By the way its ok to criticize Armenians even though they were almost wiped out in their genocide.

Angered jew

And anti-women.

Bump

Women, given the exceptional few, have proven themselves wholly incompetent and unworthy and any true thought or ways of being. Imagine today’s world with all the men replaced with women and watch the fireworks.

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Because the historically Jewish bankers always wanted it to be a "jewish problem" and not "banker problem".

>The Frankfurt school was founded almost exclusively by jews.

Don't you have an Inforwars video to watch?

Ah yes.. now time to get my surgery advice from a World renown pianist

Are you denying my claim or the the Frankfurt school is harmful or even they it exists?

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>but I was told reactionaries can't read and can't do art
You were told this by the gatekeepers that work to exclude them.

And it's beautiful

Because hating the jews was a common thing, just like now everyone hates or at least dislikes gypsies. But that was before uk and usa mutts started sucking their circumsiced dicks

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You are using so many words but saying so little.

I wonder how life is experiences for a brainlet like you.

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Jewish revolutionary spirit or most of E Michel Jones books.

I don't know, why were so many of them against murder?

>lets ask the the jews to leave
you cowards

you know what must be done

sorry that i called you mutt mr.whiteman, i know you are just 10% ashkenazi jew and 55.99% pure white and thats more than enough
thanks you for your service

That’s insanely based, got more?

Because they're right

>Ah yes...time to get my views on population genetics from sociologists
>Ah yes...time to get my views on Jews from Jews
>Ah yes...time to get my views on evolutionary psychology from twitter
any more examples of this line of thinking?

Imagine confusing zionists with jews. That's like saying every white guy is a nazi.

See there are mountains of circumstantial evidence of Jewish nepotism and subversion or what that reactionary Jew Moldbug called "spontaneous coordination" but I haven't seen much physical evidence and this is part of what kept me from going full /pol/. Something like a real Protocols, that is, a true "conspiracy" complete with central organization and documented correspondence would be needed to truly go after them, even though I admit that they have had a negative impact on Europe and America in aggregate.
Any examples of this kind of physical evidence?

Dostoevsky reactionary aesthetics only came after getting put against the execution pole then gulag because he was a part of a revolutionary socialist group of writers. it's like the realization that it's all meaningless and that nothing will change. it's hard to explain but you need to read his works to understand it.
also
>fake quotes

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ahh yes the old "If I can't prove that a reactionary is dumb, I can call him an aesthete and his politics ironic" meme

This is cope on a whole other level. On the same level as 'Newton was totally atheist guys'.
It is also barely related to the thread. This post has to be bait.

Ah yes.. now time to get my biological advice from women

It's the view of jews from a jew. In this case your surgery advice is coming from a surgeon.

>h-he used to not have wrongthink and changed for the worst, people don't mature, t-they go sour
...
also
>implying Dostoievski was a morality-free nihilist
...

>Pianist

At the end of Ezra Pound's wikipedia page it says that
"'Any good I've done has been spoiled by bad intentions—the preoccupation with irrelevant and stupid things,' [he] replied. Then very slowly, with emphasis, surely conscious of Ginsberg's being Jewish: 'But the worst mistake I made was that stupid, suburban prejudice of anti-semitism.'[197][198]"

There's not really any need for any conspiracy beyond spontaneous coordination. Any people strong and confident in its identity would naturally become more prone to excluding or downright persecuting any minority groups, and jews just happen to be the ever-present minority group. Thus it is in the collective and personal jewish interest to undermine any such organisation to reduce the risk of getting the short end of the stick. Other minorities can be found doing kinda the same shit, just not as effectively since they don't have the same power structure access as some jews do.

So are you arguing for deportation?

Just destroy or Balkanize USA, and most of these issues with fix themselves over time. USA should be completely isolated from the world stage for at least a century.

Also, Jews are ethnic supremacist. Not all minorities are ethnic supremacist. Some minorities value their ideology moreso than biological makeup, for example.

>It really is fucking incredible how virtually every single philosopher for two millennia after Aristotle subscribed to the theory of spontaneous generation
>therefore flies are born from shit

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Did you strawman enough there to convince yourself? Not only that it's a fake equivalence too.

Good job.

This. And a controlled media environment (since the 40's) is why they don't anymore.

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Jews: We're victims who have suffered persecution for thousands of years due to the prevalence of antisemitism throughout European history

Yea Forums: omg i found antisemitic statements from important figures of European history, (((they))) never told us this it really makes you think

With displays of reasoning such as this, does it really come as any surprise that they are winning?

They tend to be great writers I don't get the hate.

With that logic it would not matter if anti-semitism was real or not for them to win, in fact with that logic action against them is the only thing possible to stop it from happening in the future.

The Jew himself names the Jew regarding this paradigm:
>Proverbs 30:27
>The locusts have no king, Yet they all advance in ranks;

Let's not pretend like my or your shitholes are any better on the question.

There is no need for big centralized conspiracy with secret meetings in barely lit undergrounds dark ritual chambers below rich mansions.
As far as something accepted by Jews at large, the Talmud itself is quite clear enough.

I don't know where you are going with this post because it is obvious that the suppression of reactionary sentiments from otherwise highly-regarded historical figures (Dostoevsky, Kant, Washington blah blah blah) is part of a propaganda war on reaction. Neoliberals want everyone to think that every great historical figure was a precursor to neoliberal democracy and the sole picture of reaction in the average person's head to be a bad photo of an already subhuman neo-Nazi from a street demonstration. The idea that the dangerous ideas that the modern neo-Nazi holds were once held by esteemed members of political and cultural society is a threat to the globohomo agenda

USA has been Jew'd for far longer than most European countries. It's actually hilarious how much power Jews have on the USA. It is effectively a colony of Israel at this point.
Moreover, countries are becoming shitholes thanks to Americanization, idiot.

Not him, but...

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I understand your argument but suppose my objection consists in disagreeing with how revelations like "Dostoevksy was an antisemite" are likely to be interpreted today.

You're arguing that the suppressed fact that Kant/Fyodor/whoever was an antisemite will be a shocking revelation to the deluded masses who currently identity antisemitism solely with fringe, easily dismissed right-wing groups. Upon learning that brilliant thinkers like Kant hated the Jews, they will reconsider the merits of antisemitism.

My guess is that information like this actually serves the opposite purpose and will only entrench the average person deeper into their neoliberal leanings.

a) It bolsters Jewish claims of widespread persecution. It's literal evidence the people you are supposedly arguing with can marshal in their own victimization/defense. The idea that Jews don't want people to know important historical figures were antisemites seems absurd. Do groups like BLM actively work to conceal instances of racism or do they parade each for all its worth? Why would Jews be any different?

b) Most importantly, even more central to liberals than seeing everything as a precursor to liberalism, is the myth of liberal progress. Demonstrating that even a supreme rationalist like Kant was nonetheless beholden to prejudice just shows how far we've come. We can now pat ourselves on the back confident history is moving in the right direction.

everything wrong with the world
Austrian School has done more damage to the world than 10,000 nukes could
Neoliberalism is nothing but a method to throw away all conception of ethics and morals
Public companies are just an offshoot of both these things, inheriting the inherent wrongness of both

>a) and b)
Sure, that is a way a persecuted group could play their game, but not necessarily a good strategy nor one necessarily a preferred one, especially if partially guilty of what they're accused of.

Blacks in America are eager to bring up cases of persecution, both general situations and comments from famous and otherwise respected peoples. It is also hard to argue for it being black peoples fault for their situation.

Now blacks, as a group do not themselves have a strong voice or a lot of capital to express this, to reach out to a lot of people they need a proxy but yet they still do it.

Jews however control the majority of the media in the west but they are actively hiding many cases of persecution, and when they are mentioned in the media they are always vague, never really giving a good reason for what happened.

Jews are sometimes mentioned being expelled from Spain during the reconquist. But most of the other several hundred expulsions are rarely mentioned and when they are almost always vaguely referenced as a general unprovoked anti-semitic act.

The same is true for criticisms of famous writers. They are rarely mentioned, even though most media is controlled by people who by your own words should benefit them repeating their persecution if there were no fault to be found, and if there is a mention it is vague.
How often do one hear from mainstream sources that anti-semitism in the 19th century was common because people accused them of instigating rebellions and turning peoples and nations against each other?
No, there are vague accusations.

Why are they so vague in the criticism against all cases except for Nazi Germany?

He hated America as well.

Good.

He'd have probably hated you as well.

The first jew I had the pleasure of meeting was a family freind who that day, in front of me, tried to sell my mother in law a pair of his sons used tennis shoes.

He then spent 20 or so minutes ranting and raving about his failure of a son, and how much he hated him.

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So what?

Good, I hate him too. He can go suck that crucified kike's dick in hell.

Because they're high IQ.

gimme a list i DARE you

>when they are almost always vaguely referenced as a general unprovoked anti-semitic act.
In many case it was pure religious autism, protestants also got constantly bodied in my country yet I hear little about some kind of protestant conspiracy.

>Jews however control the majority of the media
Also nah.

>that anti-semitism in the 19th century was common because people accused them of instigating rebellions and turning peoples and nations against each other?
Nah, that's just nazis propaganda, Italy didn't have much antisemitism for exemple and they were fascists, while the commies still hated the jews even after the revolution.

I'm not OP and I don't have any fiction writers for you but the last three philosophers I've read has been Hobbes Kant and Nietzsche and it just so happens they were all anti-semitic.

I am new to philosophy but there sure seems to be a pattern here.

What if Luther was pushed by the Jews?

>the Jews
And their lies

yea but they were fucking retarded.
kant was basically autistic and talking out of his asshole and neetchee just talked about being alpha male while fucking prostitutes and getting syphilis all over his dead body

>Nah, that's just nazis propaganda, Italy didn't have much antisemitism for exemple and they were fascists, while the commies still hated the jews even after the revolution
Blatantly false. Mussolini did not generally act specifically against jews but he was accused of anti-semitism again and again because of his anti-comminist laws, for some reasons.

In Romania Codreanu was fighting against Jewish bolshevism since before Hitler was even rejected from university.

As for the interwsr socialist and communist revolutions, it's hard to find a non-Jewish leader of the German november revolution.

Béla Kun, a jew, did not hold power for long in Hungary but he was quick to start the red terror.

The same happened in Russia with the Cheka.

>Jews however control the majority of the media
>also nah
OK, good talk.

>Nietzsche
>anti-semitic

I don't see how you could argue against it.

he was unequivocally praising of the Yids, despite the majority of his philosophy being based on their very MO as slave morality incarnate.

>Mussolini did not generally act specifically against jews but he was accused of anti-semitism again and again because of his anti-comminist laws, for some reasons.

Yeah, I'm gonna need some proof on that.

>Codreanu was fighting against Jewish bolshevism
DOn't know anything about that, but if it's like the rest of your autism it's probably false.

>a non-Jewish leader of the German november revolution.
You mean the revolt that started with marines rebelling against their order to launch a suicide attack? The one who ended up creating a democracy who subsequently gunned down a commie uprising a few month after its creation?

>The same happened in Russia with the Cheka.
>The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission (Russian: Bcepoccийcкaя Чpeзвычaйнaя Кoмиccия), abbreviated as VChK (Russian: BЧК, Ve-Che-Ka) and commonly known as Cheka (from the initialism ChK - Russian: ЧК), was the first of a succession of Soviet secret-police organizations. Established on December 5 (Old Style) 1917 by the Sovnarkom,[1] it came under the leadership of Felix Dzerzhinsky, a Polish aristocrat-turned-communist.
Hmmm

his entire coded anti-semitism was built off being rejected by salome, who was basically jewish. he thought he was alpha male but realized he was an autistic loser retard and the only way to cope was to go for long walks and figure out how to slander the love of his life for crushing his fragile soul.

Based supposition desu

Can you give me some quotes of him being anti-semitic? In BGaE I remember he says that the slave morality is a jewish invention, but thats as far as i know

>it's hard to find a non-Jewish leader of the German november revolution.
Literally the guy on the top you dildo.

>Yeah, I'm gonna need some proof on that.
That I sadly can't give you now. I'd need old scanned newspapers.
>DOn't know anything about that, but if it's like the rest of your autism it's probably false.
Ok. You can read his books, like For my Legionaries if you want the names of the prominent Romanian bolsheviks, but for his career Wikipedia or whatever should be good enough to convince you.
>You mean the revolt that started with marines rebelling against their order to launch a suicide attack? The one who ended up creating a democracy who subsequently gunned down a commie uprising a few month after its creation?
I mean the socialist uprising during this time in which the socialist were led almost exclusively by jews like Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht and Kurt Eisner.
>>The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission (Russian: Bcepoccийcкaя Чpeзвычaйнaя Кoмиccия), abbreviated as VChK (Russian: BЧК, Ve-Che-Ka) and commonly known as Cheka (from the initialism ChK - Russian: ЧК), was the first of a succession of Soviet secret-police organizations. Established on December 5 (Old Style) 1917 by the Sovnarkom,[1] it came under the leadership of Felix Dzerzhinsky, a Polish aristocrat-turned-communist.
Good job ignoring wjs to said about Hungary.

I said the same thing happened in during the red terror in Hungary as what the Cheka did in Russia. So what is the point of your Wikipedia quote?

If you are implying what I believe you can take a look under regional chekas and see if people born into a specific religion is highly overrepresented. I'm sure you will be surprised.

who doesn't?

>said about Hungary
Kun´s regime was more of nationalistic/irredentist chimpout than it was socialism.

Maybe I am using the wrong name but November revolution i mean German Revolution of 1918–1919 and on that Wikipedia article Rosa Luxemburg is at the top. I am not taking about the Weimar leaders.

>jews like Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht and Kurt Eisner
>jews like Karl Liebknecht
Congratulations, you just discredited yourself.

Rosa doesn´t have a peenor, therefore she doesn´t belong to the category of "guy". Also wikipedia memeboxes are for brainlets.

It called itself a soviet republic.
It's hard to establish something a philosopher will call communism in 6 months, especially when threatens by all neighbour's during this time.

Right, I did copies the wrong name. I guess everything I've said is moot.

It can call itself Gulyash horde, but it won´t change the fact their goals and motives were irredentist.

No true communist

yea look at the timeline of his life between his rejection from salome and BGAE.

>Copypasting names of the most important figure of the event
>Thinking Liebknecht was a Jew
You aren´t going to weasel out of this one. For the sake of of this board, please refrain from discussing history.

Of course, because I accidently pasted in one wrong name everything I've argued is moot and everything you've ignored can be continued to be ignored too.

2 of the 15 leaders of the revolution were not jews, but I guess jews had nothing to do with it. It was all a giant coincidence.

What if he wrote that book after being pushed but also cheated by them?

Indeed, guy that can´t even spell the names of Liebknecht and Luxemburg or check their ethnic background isn´t supposed to lecture others on history.

>2 of the 15 leaders of the revolution
What arse have you pulled these numbers from, lmao. What 15 leaders?

>It's the view of jews from a jew.
Im not sure about that.

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15 leaders listed on Wikipedia*
It's late where I am so I'm tired.
Also I am phone posting and auto correct changes names, it's not really a valid argument.

Now how about you go back to not ignoring everything I've said and try to argue my points. A few posts Bck you suddenly ignored almost everything I wrote and before thst you shifted the question several times.

We were arguing about if jews were overrepresented in the socialist and communist revolutions and I've proven that beyond any reasonable doubt.

Now I'm going to sleep I'll see if you've continued to ignore as much as you can or if you'll actually try to respond to at least something relevant tomorrow

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>15 leaders listed on Wikipedia*
Oh for fucks sake don´t tell me you are such a fucking brainlet to take memeboxes on wiki seriously. This and copypasting the names..you are such a fucking retard...and before you once again display utter lack of knowledge and try to defend some memebox with arbitarily chosen people as some kind of unquestinable fact: How come Paul Levi count as leader, instead of Johann Knief, Lothar Popp or Paul Lange?

>We were arguing about if jews were overrepresented in the socialist and communist revolutions and I've proven that beyond any reasonable doubt.
No one´s denying that.

>ignoring everything I've said
I´m different guy. You´ve said a lot of bullshit, you have to be specific which bullshit do you want to have disproven.

It's always funny to see liberals say the only bad thing about such and such thinker like Voltaire is their antisemetism and racism. Nigger if you actually respect these guys' minds give them a little credit, they didn't come to hate the jews through accident or ignorance

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Zetkin

The eldest of three children, Clara Zetkin was born Clara Josephine Eissner in Wiederau, a peasant village in Saxony, now part of the municipality Königshain-Wiederau.[4] Her father, Gottfried Eissner, was a schoolmaster and church organist who was a devout Protestant, while her mother, Josephine Vitale, had French roots, came from a middle-class family from Leipzig, and was highly educated.[4][5][6] In 1872 her family moved to Leipzig where she was educated at the Leipzig Teachers’ College for Women. While in school she established contacts with the infant Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (SPD; Social Democratic Party).

>i would rather be free in my mind, and be locked up in a prison cell, than to be a coward and not be able to say what i want

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>Good job ignoring wjs to said about Hungary.
I did that because I don't know anything about Hungary either. Apparently I was right, desu.

>one random twitter screencap is how every jews acts
Guess I could go on /pol/ and screenshot some random retard here to show how evil white are.

I remember some /his/ infographic btfo'ing this picture. I'll save it next time I guess.

Ya sorry that we invented vaccines and working civilisation that create an insane amount of wealth and you had to benefit from it. On the contrary the jews are parasites, they need a body to attach to and then suck the life out of it, you never see them has adventurers, engineers or settlers. They are often lawyers because they have a good language IQ from centuries of always trying to defend their crimes/fraud, all the ones that were bad to explain themself got killed.

The Culture of Critique

>Ya sorry that we invented vaccines
>and working civilisation
>that create an insane amount of wealth
>and you had to benefit from it
proof?

here it is

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Louis Pasteur was french, not white. "White" would imply that he is on the same level as anglos and germans, which is clearly wrong.

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What is it if he is not white?

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French people are white you dumbfuck.

French

No, you retard. "Whiteness" is an anglo deception so that they can pass as human being. Before those island monkey were conquered by French, they were nothing. Even today, brits with french blood remains superior to the rest of their degenerate island

telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8424904/People-with-Norman-names-wealthier-than-other-Britons.html

The pseudo-Christian sentiments in your pic related are the answer.
>Christian culture rightfully in decline
>It's da jooz!

More millions of dumb fucking peasants who should have fought for team White in the civil war.
I guess you cant blame them but at this point if commies come to power the retards that let it happen will deserve everything they get

It’s not about anything but you and your personal relationship with God. Jesus has been around for 2000 years and had dealt with worse shit. Zionists lose.

That's because they were all agents placed there by the jews in control, a lot of those agents being jews themselves of course. The goal is to make anyone talking about jewish power also one to be viewed as a deplorable cretin and raving lunatic.

I'm the guy you originally responded to, but I would say that you don't understand how the average person responds to propaganda. Associating ideas with fringe/disgusting/creepy people is a fantastic way to "discredit" said ideas because normal people will not support anything that will ostensibly damage their social capital. Being a neo-Nazi is the worst thing you can be in the West and is a sure way to destroy your life and career. Since normal people do not want their lives and careers destroyed, they will not entertain ideas that they see coming from neo-Nazi mouths. But they might think twice about those ideas if they hear them from "Great Men of History"...so in terms of *practical propaganda* it makes a whole lot of sense to suppress illiberal or anti-Semitic sentiments coming from outside of the already controlled and demonized caste of neo-Nazis that exist as a media spectacle

Out of curiosity I checked out this Clara Zetkin which is cited as an argument that the /pol/ infographic is wrong. I'll preface this by saying that 99% of /pol/ infographics are wrong or misleading. That's why I check sources every time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Zetkin
The wikipedia page actually doesn't say she's not jewish. It cites the religion of her father but says nothing about the religion of her mother. It mentions "french roots" but that is not enough to come to any sort of conclusion. It would be a lie to say that Clara Zetkin is not jewish, it is actually unknown whether she was born jewish. We would know if we had information about her mother but it does not seems to exist. However:
>Clara Zetkin adopted the name of her lover, the Russian-Jewish Ossip Zetkin [de], a devoted Marxist
Hum. Ok. You could say there is no hard evidence she was jewish and it's technically true but anybody would assume that, were she not already jewish, then there's 99% chance she was a jewish convert in life, 1% chance she didn't convert for ideological reasons but was still sympathetic to jewish causes so the result is the same, and a remaining 0.001% that she had no jewish influence whatsoever in her political activism. I shudder at the quality of this argument.

JEWS ARE WHITE

pic related natalie portman a jewish actress

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I'd like to take my gentile seed and make jewish babies with her

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No, /pol is not a 56% goblino board please fuck off.

Consider following: The caption was literally took from metapedia and none of what you said has any value. So stop lying you fucking snake and go hang yourself.

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>No, /pol is not a 56% goblino board please fuck off.
. . .

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"This list is wrong" seems like a strong exaggeration. It would be more honest to say that the list is incomplete. All of the name matches the current list on wikipedia exceot one, Clara Zetkin. She is not listed as a "leader" on that page but her own wikipedia page says she "joined and represented the party". I don't agree with showing a truncated incomplete list but I also don't agree with the wording of the counter-argument, which would obviously convey the idea that the whole of the list is fake when it isn't.

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Right, which is why every fucking blue checkmark on twitter says" I'm not white, I'm jewish" when accused of white privilege or whatever.

Reported for hate speech.

>"This list is wrong" seems like a strong exaggeration. It would be more honest to say that the list is incomplete.
Nah, only authority the list has is that it was on wiki (which already is pretty low). So if you use a list that didn´t come from wiki and present it as one that did, you are a liar.

I agree that wikipedia has low authority. It has nothing to do with this conversation tho. My post would be worded the same regardless of whether the original source was Wikipedia or Nasa or the pope. Showing an incomplete list is not honest. Calling an incomplete list completely wrong is also not honest.

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what did the jews mean by this Yea Forums?
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Yes hello I am Jew pls give camping supplies

>"Whiteness" is an anglo deception so that they can pass as human being.
Frenchfag here, we have been calling ourselves white since before anglos pretended to have a literature.

Unironically go to /pol/ and post this. You will be blessed with an abundance of quotes from Jews both famous and obscure that play both sides of the fence regarding whiteness. The Jewish "whiteness" issue is more centered around ethnicity than it is around pigmentation. You are taking defective terms too literally.

The significant observation from this though is not that they act in ways that nonjews consider to be deceitful on a regular basis, as we know they do this in business and with much more than just whiteness, but internally we want to know how they see themselves.

There is a lot of literature by Jews for Jews which expresses their views on the matter and they clearly see themselves as a unique and distinct people, separate from whites. This is also how they themselves have been seen by whites for most of human history. What they say to the outside world however for reasons of financial gain or safety depends on what they feel they can most gain at the time.