Im looking for good critiques of individualism, in particular the necessity of supra-individual concepts or tribes, be they ethnic, religious or nationalistic.
I have no pic thats related in any way
Im looking for good critiques of individualism, in particular the necessity of supra-individual concepts or tribes...
pls someone
After virtue
Ethics of authenticity
Modern moral philosophy
On human nature
Hegel's Philosophy of Right.
Fichte's Addresses to the German and Nation Foundations of Natural Right.
Herder's stuff on nationalism.
Wagner's philosophical works on art and nationalism: Art and Revolution The Artwork of the Future, Jewishness in Music etc.
God I hate modern people. She thinks animals are supposed to cater to her instagram needs. Mr Elephant man doesn't know what social media is and he doesn't give a fuck if you want him to pose for a photo. Mr Elephant man is gonna jump right ontop of you, you dumb bitch. These people are gonna try to morph of all reality into some kind of instagrammable moment in time. Everything needs to subserve their social media "needs". This is how the world ends, not with a bang but with a filter
All of Peirce's pragmatism, and agapism is grounded in COMMUNITY and he critiqued the epistemological privilege of the individual as well as the basis for sociality. Notably in Evolutionary Love he completely rejects egoism and true individuality. His entire philosophy is grounded in community.
I hear a lot about MacIntyre in the frame of communitarianism, how is he regarded there?
Ive been trying to start with Hegel's philosophy of Right, but its daunting because it's hegel. What should i read of Hegel before it, or can i just go in? Ive read some Kant and, ironically, Marx' critiques of Hegel's philosophy of Right.
Mr elephant doesnt care for the opinion of thots
Regarded well.
The poster below me is right but you will only tangentially get what your looking for from pre-moderns. They’ll give you an alternative worldview but no critique of the here and now.
After virtue is a great critique of individualism and of moral relativism, two disgusting bedfellows. I’d start there.
I will, thanks
Modern evolutionary take is socio-biology of E.O. Wilson, in particular On Human Nature and Sociobiology: The New Synthesis.
An alternate name for the topic is Group Selection Theory, the idea we select and evolve as groups rather than as individuals.
More recent take on sociobiology and group selection theory applied to contemporary politics.
Ortega y Gasset, The Rebellion of the Masses
Isnt this venturing into pseudoscience, or is it just 'uncomfortable' science?
Can group selection theory be salvaged from it's crumbling foundation of wrongheaded neodarwinian presumptions?
>hurr durr being individual must only mean materialism, dissolution and american consumption
Start with Kant, Goethe, Schiller, Novalis, Stirner, Nietzsche, Hartmann, Steiner and rid your mind of empty labels.
Start with Sociobiology: The New Synthesis if you have scientific doubts about its rigour, a textbook of animal studies. If you can put aside the "no no danger wrongthink" alarm bells then skip ahead to On Human Nature where it gets applied to humans.
From biology, Eco-Devo and Niche Construction may interest you. These are ideas that the environment determines (in part) the phenotype, and that the phenotype creates the environment in which it lives. Basically a modern and scientific update of holism.
Please, group selection is a joke and is neither needed to explain any evolutionary phenomenon nor is it supported by the majority of evolutionary biologists.
If a phenomenon can be adequately explained through simpler means then it's unlikely the more complicated explanation is true, as per occam's razor and as per statistics.
ALL SPOOKS
Nice contribution to the thread brainlet
unironically negative dialectics
>appeals to authority
>taking occam's razor as an axiom instead of as a suggestive heurestic
Not gonna make it. Sociobiology explains phenomena vulgar neo-Darwinianism can not. Wilson started with ant societies and their specialised caste systems.
Explain multicellular organisation
>NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
I'm not that poster but the one who asked if "group selection" can be salvaged from it's neodarwinian presumptions (I think not). Read Hoffmeyer, J. Biosemiotics (2015) 8: 153. doi.org
Take out the spaces in the link
Introduction: Semiotic Scaffolding
The fuck bro you're posting cringe
You are a liar and a sissy
Stop projecting
based gay chad worshiper poster
Vile pleb, if you werent a dirty rogue I would challenge ye to a duel o' wits. Then we would see who is "cringe"
Wrong pic, the thot seems to be enjoying the stuggle.
>bla bla bla bla
Shut the fuck up already schizo
Pseudoscience
Stop projecting, sissy la la liar
I remember the row that pic related kicked off but really, who among us, given a perfect body and a shitton of money, would not walk naked amongst the global poor?
SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
Silence sissy
What a fucking cunt
>NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
hope the muslims decapitate her or something
>This is how the world ends, not with a bang but with a filter
based and tseliotpilled
>trunked
that webm has been shared so many times, but it makes me chuckle every time
Whats interesting and somewhat sad is that an elephant, totally different species than us find thin white girl attractive enough to hump her, is european homo sapiens truly the pinacle of evolution and if thats the case then we are screwed if the best we have are instagram thots.
Isn't "Why Liberalism Failed" in parts about this?
generative anthropology
White women are trash-tier.
europeans are the mid-wits of evolution
who are the high-brow then
The will is universal. Trying to make arguments for a social absolute is futile, much in the same way as arguments for absolute egoism are futile.
Yes, except every other race wants conciously or not to be white or as white as possible
Nope. Have you ever been around modern white women, or any group of non-white women?
East Asians.
Yes, daily
And this is not in America?
So a bunch of angsty douchebags lambasted her profile with derogatory comments I gather? I've seen the original post, it wasn't offensive and it didn't make any claim of superiority over the guy working in the field.
I'm here and good example of Male, trying my best, don't hurt
Who is she?
Literally any other philosopher other than Rand
God I wish that were me.
Tribe
>RUN YOUNG MAN I WILL HOLD HER
He actually looks like he's trying to break her neck
>Ive been trying to start with Hegel's philosophy of Right, but its daunting because it's hegel. What should i read of Hegel before it, or can i just go in? Ive read some Kant and, ironically, Marx' critiques of Hegel's philosophy of Right.
Use this as secondary while reading it: archive.org
kys
If she's getting shit its cause she's using someone's daily struggle to show off her ass while playing it off like she's got sympathy for him
30 years outdated.
Although Katz new book hopefully refurbishes the ideas.
More elephant on girl stuff please
Elephants are in it, they get something in exchange.
People posted a lot of good recommendations, so here as a thank you
Cope
thot status: patrolled
She don't understand that if she can do half naked pictures posted on instagram like this, someone has to bend his back on this rice field.
At least she should have had the decency to post a picture where she's dressed.
be more specific
whats it called?
Can we get sources on these please? At least the first one?
Stupid western whore. Unafraid when you should be cautious.
I want an elephant bros
Read Hegel on freedom's necessity of the state.
I'll be damned if hot white girls can't post pics of their asses to end world hunger.
longer version?
>implying without the ass shot the contrast would have half the impact in the pic
She might be a sloot but you're impulsive
fuck this I just want front mission to be real
How is that related to the topic at hand senpai
it's related in my head
instead of rich heiresses who travel the world and fuck around with elephants I want giant mechas and synthetic islands, do you understand?
He looks like a little vampire with his little tusks
group selection is top cringe
Chad anarchs like Junger blow cringe neodarwinism out of the fucken water
But Jünger specifically symbolizes this.
Whatever he might have written in his later years he DID voluntarily join one of the worst conflicts of human history and bravely fought for his nation it and at least somewhat thrived on it.
If there is any one group embodying the argument for genetic group interests it's the soldier of the 20th century.
Junger's post-WWI actions hardly substantiate that he acted out of group selection or national love, for starters he initially joined the FFL. He fought because he was a born fighter. To say that he was acting out of group selection in WWII is absurd, even. It's not reaching to say that his later work was specifically about abandoning group selection
Junger self-sacrificed for his group and wrote manifestos about why other men should do the same.
But your argument is absurd.
Disregard his publicly voiced opinions and just look abstractly at his actions.
Because what he undeniably DID was risking his own life for his country, voluntarily and whatever post-hoc rationalizations he gave are kind of meaningless.
To understand how a person thinks you firstly have to observe how he acts and especially what he does when his convictions are tested, that is much more important then anything the person could ever say.
You got me then. However, Junger conflicted with himself many times over the course of his life
I don't believe his motivation for fighting was simply for his country at all
>I don't believe his motivation for fighting was simply for his country at all
But the point is, motivations do not matter at all. What matters is what people do.
I can not see into the souls of the millions of Europeans who gave their lives up in the 20th century but their actions are undeniable they died for the sake of their countries.
And I see no other explanation for this then selfless group interests, what else could keep a million men in their trenches, yes mutinies happened, but there simply was nothing that kept them in the trenches. At any point they could have got up and left, who would have stopped them, who even could have?
And yet they didn't, even their self preservation instincts were overridden, which is to me nearly incomprehensible.
What other explanation is there?
If you consider WWI Junger in isolation as the archtypal soldier, then sure, the main component of the soldier's fitness is in group selection. But Junger was far from archtypal. Just look at how he acted in Nazi Germany, which is essentially founded on the principle of group selection
>If you consider WWI Junger in isolation as the archtypal soldier, then sure, the main component of the soldier's fitness is in group selection.
His actions certainly put him far above average among the soldiers, but based on his actions, he was just more selfless more brave and more determined then the rest.
>Just look at how he acted in Nazi Germany
Going by his actions he did exactly what one would expect, he joined the military again and participated in the war.
He obviously didn't agree with the Nazi regime, but not because he was against German interests, but because he (correctly) identified what doom it would bring over Germany.
>Nazi Germany, which is essentially founded on the principle of group selection
You can have two opposing groups who both believe that they are doing the best thing for their group.
This is not a paradox, but quite natural and infact what one would expect if one believes in group selection.
The disagreement between Jünger and the Nazi Regime wasn't "should one act in Germanies interests", but "what are Germanies interests." Which is again evident by him initially putting the disagreement behind him and serving in the military eventually joining the Staufenberg Plot, which I do not believe can be characterized as anything but "Hitler has to go, for the sake of Germany".