Being changed by books

Fear and Trembling gave me an entirely new sense of faith singlehandedly.

If you browse Yea Forums and claim to be a Christian, you're a LARPer. You might not realise it, but it doesn't change reality

Lmao you were changed by Yea Forums, not books
Change a few variables and you'd be posting about Shankara and Guenon, not God and Christ

You must be insufferable.

Yes the brothers karamazov absolutely crushed me, especially the homilies of elder zosima. Ended up on a path similar to OP's after being an atheist since my early teens

So who isnt a larper in your view exactly that still browses this site?

Only real Gospels are the Gnostic Gospels OP

This. The christfags on this website recruit people like a cult. They prey on weak and depressed people by giving them false hope. Most of them are only Christian so they can feel superior to the rest of us "degenerates". It's all a sick cycle of satisfying ones ego.

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

*tips fedora*

Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty." -- Gospel of Thomas

WOAH my depression is healed now! Suddenly I feel good about being a virgin failure in my 20's! I'm totally not running away from reality and clinging to Christianity to help me forget my failures!

You probably could've found some answers in Christianity but you're a cynical cunt and you deserve what you get.

what would you recommend to start getting into philosophy, The Republic?

I'm actually an atheist and a non-virgin who is still in college. But if you're not at the very least moved by the notion of the Annunciation, you have no soul. Didn't you ever watch Charlie Brown?

Meditations

Yes you are sooo much better than me, aren't you? I'm one of the degenerates burning in hell but you're one of the good guys on his way to heaven. Good for you, user! Funny how Christianity solved all your problems just like that!

I live for these tales

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This for sure. The Republic is good too, though

Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers by Diogenes Laertius.

based rec

gnosis.org/naghamm/bookt-jdt.html

... which is exactly what someone with no faith in God would say.

I haven’t heard anyone who has actual faith in God say the opposite after all. :3

Of course they're not going to admit it because that's kinda the whole point is they're using Christianity to run away from the fact.

Phew this is a lotta projection there buddy

based, larpers literally cannot refute this

>>Realise that the Church and Desert Fathers are the continuation of the Classics.
Neck yourself. Christianity is an Oriental cult (the retarded son of Judaism) and has no place in native Western culture.

I sense low T, insecurity, and probably repressed homosexuality.

I feel like none of that happened, you didn't read any of those books and you're actually 17 years old

But this is how it works in your mind. I'm the bad one, you're the good one. Makes you feel superior to me.

You literally just described every priest on the planet.

This, but also not this

Whos mind? Im not a christian. Your initial post was calling the christcuck larpers 20 year old incel failures, why would you say this if not to prove your own superiority? You reek of resentment about as much as these LARPers if not more.

The only one demonizing here is you, user. Pretty sad t b q h. I’ll pray for your peace of mind

Yea, I bet you know them all, you big gaylord.

Good story telling, 8/10

I read the Republic for the first time as an 18-year-old undergrad and it blew me away. I was pretty smart growing up, but I went to public school so I was not really exposed to much philosophy and higher-level thought. Reading about the Theory of the Forms and Plato's definition of Justice absolutely revolutionized my worldview and I've never been the same. I don't necessarily agree with everything Plato says these days, but I still have a lot of sympathy for huge chunks of his thought, and the overall experience was truly transformative.

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gender studies

I like to think books influence and guide me all the time, but I can't recall anything particularly drastic. I do read a lot of "practical" literature to do with finance, fitness, sales, practical psychology (like pick up) and those are all definitely moving me in certain directions. Then there is also the more abstract things like reading The Denial of Death when I was around 20 or 21. Can't really define the experience, but my world view changed permanently after that. A lot of political reading also becomes ingrained.

t. pseud

>16
>edgy atheist trying to stray away from my catholic upbringing
>gamergate happens
>realize the errors of my ways as the same people I supported kill every art form I love
>go on Yea Forums and laugh at the Nazi rhetoric
>eventually become a die hard racist and shill Trump from the very beginning while everyone calls me retarded for believing he has a chance in hell
>worried that trump will fail so decide to get /fit/ in the meantime
>trump wins and I feel pure bliss for a whole week until I go back to the same grind
>getting fit redpills me on the importance of beauty but my quest for love runs dry
>looksmaxx with all my might until my friends and family loo at me like a changed man
>girls start heavily admiring my beauty but I can't take the pressure
>fail numerous potential relationships
>fear of virginity grows stronger
>my only relief comes from suppression with drugs
>eventually think I will be all alone and without anyone
>find a girl
>she looks like a lesbian and is covered in unshaven hair and dresses terribly
>has acne all over
>love her personality but she is far too ugly for me
>watch Burning over the winter break
>the realization of life comes to me
>go back the next semester and form a relationship
>hee intense love warms my heart and breaks down my wall
>works intensely to build our relationship
>take her to the gym and help her become beautiful on the outside
>grow over the months and see her even more lovely by the day
>all I desire is to grow old with her anr have a family
>work only feels like a means to obtain this and not like a life goal
>understand what really matters to me

Blogpost over.

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based and redpilled

Based

The fact that retard larpers actually want this type of life is sad.

It's great. Nothing warms my heart more. I imagine growing old without love just makes one endlessly jaded.

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Fuck God tbqh
Useless prick
Jesus was a faggot

y..yeah heh..h..who would ever want that, uh. heh

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>"so how the fuck do women work"
>"oh right, there is science and science probably knows, I should study" pic related
>you now possess basic psychological evolutionary knowledge
>you gained awareness of basic behavioral knowledge
>continue this path because holy shit its interesting
>already through a bunch of different other books and some of them seem to be in academic levels

I have become the master darwinist, ph34r me

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What? A relatively normal one?

Slit your throat and meet your maker

i was changed by Yea Forums a lot, although books i read made an impression on me too, salinger, this one spanish baroque drama (i wish there were more of baroque drama translations in my language), shakespeare, romanticist poetry, fantasy etc. all formed my culture and views somewhat
one big thing i noticed is that i dont hate people anymore, i dont like racism or nationalism anymore, ive become more liberal politically and more radical theologically more i read
used to get triggered and pissed off at people like you, but now im not invested into it anymore, and christianity has made me have much more self control, discipline, tolerance, charity, patience
although im still a virgin loser as you say, perhaps its a cope and i dont suually tend to believe in thngs like that, but it means a lot to me for whatever reason i cant really figure out

normal is boring by definition

I fell in love with aestheticism and only read books for their aesthetic value. Observing things through that lens gave me a new perspective on social, personal and political critique. For example, Heine writes beautifully but he's also socially and politically sharp. I'd argue that he's socially and politically sharp because of his artistic height. Because of that I only search for what I call "pure art" that in my view can lead to discovering pure thoughts. I reached one of those in one area and I'm not willing to accept anything that's below it in any other area.

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clicked OP looking for Schizo-OP and instead got christian-larper OP. What a dissapointment.

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Lefties must change the narrative user, so cliche...
>Monastery
Theres no need to reach an extreme user, have kids for your race

i acutally was depressed until i became christian

Because believe it or not I feel for the Christianity drug and was Christian for three months before I fixed myself. I browse this website so obviously I'm a loser like everyone else. Only thing is I'm not running from the truth and getting high on religion to comfort myself.

>be 18/19/20
>cant remember, smoked a lot of weed
>always felt existentially fucked and displaced
>always the same dilemma:
>good is bad and bad is good
>doing good does good
>yet has bad repercussions
>basically the relationship of black vs white splits in its extremes into infite blacks vs whites vs black vs whites
>read Myth of Sisyphus
>"Nothing is absolute"
>holy shit, yes, thank You, Albert
>feel huge weight lifted of my shoulders
>continue with drug abuse
>favourite part of the high is thinking
>abuse psychedelics
>experience lasting psychosis
>nobody knows except girlfriend and few friends who do not believe the extremity of my story
>fix myself and my life all on my own to almost 90% symptom remission, only support was/is girlfriend who stuck with me through the whole ordeal
>mfw I learned more in these 3-4 years of pure agony than I ever could have learned through books or any other source of information through my whole lifespan
>mfw I realize all these sources of information are masturbatory, spiraling unrealities
>mfw I realize my knowledge still feels shallow
>mfw still cannot finish any writing project

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still me
>mfw when I googled the liberating quote from Camus I just wrote about 1 minute ago
>mfw I cannot find it
>mfw it might be a false memory
I am sure, however, that I read the book.

>assuming the inner motives of believers because I myself used God as a security blanket
Well, atleast you are open about projection. And trust me, really believing (not flirting with an idea) is not a cop out. It’s a call to the road of repentance and sanctification.

Faith is firstly about how you relate to your own sin. The Law is the harshest of judges on all of us. We are all like corpses in the mirror of the Law as Paul puts it. The question is if we receive the Gospel that frees us to a new life in Christ.

What I’m trying to say is, genuine faith is not some superiority complex, it comes from a place of the deepest humility. I come from the place of being as much of a depraved rascal as the next guy.

>staunch

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Whereas I have no copes at all.

Pretty based.

I don't think Meditations is great. Maybe when I've read more I'll enjoy it. I would recommend The Consolations of Philosophy by Alain de Botton or Philosophy: The Basics by Nigel Warburton. Both are general overviews, the former looks at five or six of the most famous philosophers and the latter looks at philosophical arguments.

Where are you from?

based

It's been terrible. Only made me more desultory, making me more sensitive yet being unable to act on the moral "lessons" of the books I've read. I'm many ways I've become Ivan from TBk. Growing up in a Christian family I can neither leave my faith or embrace it, knowing the God of Job. I'm barely literate yet even this bit of knowledge about faith and literature has made me a distinct outsider among my peers and I cant help but feel they're idiots. Sincerely, I hope God can save me and I become someone in Jobs light.

It is kinda repetitive and boring

>25
>already the richest man in the world
>6'11 320 lbs
>got a perfect record in MMA with 30-0
>cured cancer
>went back in time and helped the axis win world war 2
>become enlightened
>develop special powers and prove to the world that the supernatural is possible
>go on the conan obrien show weekly
>smoke blunts on the joe roganshnider show

what is the option for gay people? i want to delude myself into religion as well, seems like a very nice way of living
but since i'm gay i can't really choose an abrahamic faith and i believe in one (impersonal) God so eastern and pagan religion isn't for me either

and i hate lgbt accepting churches because i'm not left wing

how do i convince myself that the Bible is true AND that it doesn't condemn gay people WHILE not going full libtard?

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>went from loser with nothing
>would play vidya and masturbate all day
>few friends, generally would only hang out with 1 or 2 other people every now and then
>everyone thought I was a weird creepy guy
>don't have a job
>isolated, lonely, weak, useless

>read the Iliad

>blows my mind; beautiful yet incredibly insightful
>act always thinking what would Achilles do
>join the gym to have strength like the Greeks
>change how I talk to people based on how Achilles, Odysseus, Hector, etc act
>1 year after reading the iliad
>have a cute and smart gf
>have lots of friends, go on trips to Europe with them
>people don't think I'm creepy and invite me to parties, can talk well with others
>get a job I like
>more confident, feel on top of the world
>start reading more Greek authors such as Pindar, Herodotus, Thucydides, Aeschylus, presocratics, Plato, etc and try learn from them
>begin to learn Homeric Greek to read him in the original

I attribute all my success in life to reading Homer

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Tolerance isn't a Christian virtue, if you love people you're not apathetic to their sins.

The answer is that the logic behind shopping for gods undermines the very notion of God.

based

Christcucks are just coping.

Join a church wholeheartedly and believe that christ died for your gay sins. If you truly believe then praise god while condemned, faggot

>Christ died for your sins
>Gays can't comprehend this

Deeply unchristian

im sorry, i expressed myself poorly
i meant that i dont act autistically if people act sinfully and i dont resent them as people, but i have a more mature approach to it
perhaps "tolerance" isnt the right word, although i would put tolerance as well into that post too somewhere

>Realise that the Church and Desert Fathers are the continuation of the Classics.
By that logic you should be an atheist, since modern secular philosophy is the continuation of Enlightenment philosophy, which is the continuation of medieval philosophy, which is the continuation of the church fathers.

>what is the option for gay people? i
stop being a faggot
really you can do it. Try some vaginas

Based. But there is nothing wrong with that

try to pray the gay away

Burning was a fantastic movie

kek

Slave moralist

t. low IQ unironic MAGA tard. Tsk tsk.

>edgy ancap teen
>reads stirner
>become ascended

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I just keep getting more elitistic and also more antipolitical in general.

To forsake procreation is sinful.

1) Plato Dialogues
2) Republic
3) Confessions
4) City of God
5) Consolation of Philosophy

Then read everything by Kierkegaard

>freudian explanations for every single belief system

Hate people who do this unironically

Yikes dude I just took a couple ecology courses

Show me the scientific papers that found this coping mechanism... unless I suspect it's bullshit, manipulation so that you make people feel bad - or actual bullshit you actually believe.

I’ve unironically started with the Phenomenology of Spirit. Just read whatever you find intriguing.

That's a false equivalence between western medieval philosophy and the eastern stuff. The guy mentioned being Orthodox, so I doubt he's referring to people like Aquinas whose philosophies did eventually lead to modern secularism. This makes sense since the Orthodox perspective is that Catholic philosophy taken to its conclusion inevitably leads to atheism.

both Stoicism and Christianity are slave ideologies sorry user you're still a cuck

>when OP finds out about the Syriacs

Science wouldnt have much to say about the psychological nature of coping mechanisms. It doesnt take any great intellectual leap, however, to see how Christianity might fill a perceived void of meaninglessness in one's life. An entire school of therapy is founded on this idea: logotherapy. Did you even think before you posted?

Lmao this was literally me two years ago, down to the considering joining a Greek Orthodox monastery, then I made a chronological list of all philosophical texts and religious texts and began reading, don't stop where you are, you aren't even remotely close to the right conclusion and are just defaulting to the opposite extreme considering your background, I defaulted to Atheism for awhile for the same reason, eventually you'll realize how ridiculous it is to limit yourself to a label and then you'll see how far you go.

>pathologizing an issue
Brainlet tier

Im pretty sure my life was saved by reading poetry
>be 19, working a dead end job that i hate.
>get into a habit of reading poetry during smoke breaks(my only breaks)
>something snaps, look up and find the world not so boring and drab but full of beauty
>stopped being depressed after awhile.

based

Heraclitus,Pythagoras, Plato and Aristotle, read them in this order.

>having your first break up is enough suffering to make you convert to Christianity
Fucking hell

Reminds me of John Stuart Mill:
Mill went through months of sadness and pondered suicide at twenty years of age. According to the opening paragraphs of Chapter V of his autobiography, he had asked himself whether the creation of a just society, his life's objective, would actually make him happy. His heart answered "no", and unsurprisingly he lost the happiness of striving towards this objective. Eventually, the poetry of William Wordsworth showed him that beauty generates compassion for others and stimulates joy.[16] With renewed joy he continued to work towards a just society, but with more relish for the journey. He considered this one of the most pivotal shifts in his thinking. In fact, many of the differences between him and his father stemmed from this expanded source of joy.

Since this "Snap" i have thought more about living in general.
As you live the only thing you truly experience are a collection of "present moments" which turn to past and future will turn to present into past, there is kind of no future or past, but only a collection of present moments.
Try looking out into the world when you are sad, or lonely.
Realize that the world is filled with such inexhaustible beauty.
After all, if you find no beauty in the present and only nostalgize about the past, or look towards the future, you will lose the only footing you have.

Becoming a Catholic priest

The more I have read, the more I became convinced that there is nothing out there being said that excites me, and in that futile quest I had the realization that the only way I will be satisfied is if I write shit myself.

Brothers K

Myth of Sisyphus

If you can't see your homosexuality as a moral disorder of the flesh and denounce it you will never find a spiritual awakening.

>calling christianity, the only truly life affirming worldview “slave ideology”
Stop memeing and actually start reading and thinking independently of bad Nietzsche charicatures.