What is the most practical literature/philosophy/ideas centric major...

>Trades are also a boomer psy-op, btw. Full of competition with foreigners who drive down wages, or you have nepotism with boomers.
It is really not that bad, if you can not find a good job in the trades the issue is with you, not boomers and foreigners.

Some jobs just look for a degree. I live in NYC and a lot of print jobs don't specify what degree. Not sure how that works because j don't have one

I don't know

I feel like an english degree could help cultivate skills that'd be useful, such as comprehension, working with deadlines, interpretation and writing. Is it really more worth it to grind in a job that you don't love to amass riches

>to have a job like software engineering you don't even need a computer science degree; half of the ones working now don't;
those people already possess decades of experience as qualification

Everyone just gives conflicting info

The thing I never really understood about undergrad was that you have SO MUCH TIME. You are given an opportunity to go into any field you want. Learn about it, and then find something in that field, or related to it, to spend your time on and cultivate a skill outside of it. Write smut, get into woodworking, develop a video game. ANYTHING. I spent my time socializing, gaming, drinking, and never learning a DAMN thing. And I regret it. I've cultivated skills since, but god damn if I had realized that learning how to make websites really well or even sticking to one hobby would have improved my life soooo much. There's always time to drink and fuck, but you'll never again have the opportunity to grow in such a safe environment with SO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE THERE TO HELP YOU ALONG THE WAY. WHAT? THERES AN ENTIRE LITERATURE DEPARTMENT THERE TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR WRITING AND LEARNING HOW TO PUBLISH?? GAHJHHHHGHG.

This is part of what is making me lean toward a writing or literature major. Sure I could learn everything on my own and the paper is more of less useless, but the structure and people really help force you to learn and improve yourself.

We are all going to die and the market is prone to doing fuck all by the time you graduate. If writing or literature is your passion, then follow it. If you are still concerned, get a minor in something more "practical." The thing is, these people are still there for you even if it isn't your major. While I was in law school I went to the art department and talked with the dean about my art show. When I was writing a novel I went to the lit department and spoke with some authors. Not to mention the competitions, resources, meetings, network, etc. you get. It's all there, and most people just fuck it up because they dont care. When I was in undergrad I just had horse blinders of maximizing what I thought, at the time, was fun while making sure I graduated. I graduated and I had 1000 hours of dota 2 and CSGo under my belt, probable liver damage, and a friend group that destroyed itself as soon as I left, and burned bridges with exes and people. I know it sounds like my diary desu, but I just hate for anyone to experience the waste of time I did. I had no REAL skill to show. I was medeocre at everything they taught me how to do. Sure, I could write copy, make a website, photoshop, analyse texts, recite facts, but I didn't have that ONE skill I was proud of. I wasn't even that good at dota.

Do a stem degree then get a trade.

I am a qualified Mechanical Engineer but work pretty much as a welder/technician and would recommend studying first. By having a degree you will have way more options and get far more respect in the workplace. It's sad that it has to be like this, but having a trade only puts a serious cap on your potential growth.

Ignore all that if you want to start your own business though.

Is it worth it though? Are you happy? I'm really just looking to make ends meet and do something that I enjoy

Imagine being the kid who thinks it's a good idea to pay $60,000 to do stuff he could ask his parents to allow him for a year free.

I won't be paying anything, you still get the connections and a degree which seems like some jobs use as a way to filter candidates. Also, I can't really gain experience via an internship without being enrolled. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to as far as what he could do for 1 year for free.

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So much conflicting information here kek I'm convinced no one knows what to do because the market is fucked

Unironically Theology

>he is not getting a maths degree and reading as a hobby

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It has given me freedom to become happy in the future.

Go talk to your average 50 year old tradie with fucked up lungs, blown out joints and tell me what you think

psychiatry

t. psychiatrist, formerly frontend dev

lolwut

haha how did that happen

the thing you have to realize is philosophy/literature/humanities degrees aren't even good even if you like those subjects. I went into school to study English, switched into math and computer science after 1 year cuz I realized, on top of not getting a job with English degree, I could literally just read all those books on my spare time.
Job market sucks so it's best to just get a practical degree. Remember a lot of writers also did practical work on the side (the typical example is all those writers that were doctors, like Celine and Chekov). Even Wallace Stevens was in insurance wasn't he?

are there many well paying jobs in that field?

Psychiatrists earn very well, but it's basically STEM. Clinical Psychology is much less of a hard science and closer to what you (or the OP) are thinking of. But, consequently, the salary is much lower.

im balls deep into a philosophy undergrad, its too late for me

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judging by this screenshot, i would have thought the old guy in white is the suspect and he's acting that way because he's nervous lmao what is he doing

you need med degree for psyciatry right? is psycology worth it at all?

I don't know

That's a Doctorate? Do you need a bachelor's?

In every country I'm aware of, you need a med degree for psychiatry, yes. A bachelor's degree in psychology is worthless, but if you go into clinical psychology or psychotherapy, you will probably find a job that earns pretty well, at least in Europe. Nice digits, btw,

Depends on your country. You usually need a master's degree and then postgraduate training.

please don't do psychology man. Watch Aaron Clarey vids. Read what Taleb has to say about psychology.
If you really want to do humanities, stick to the classic subjects like English, Philosophy, or History. The rest of it (outside STEM) is bullshit.

>What is the most practical literature/philosophy/ideas centric major?
There is none.
All these degrees were created for upper class boys/girls and the highly talented, historically nobody went to university to do anything practical.
They are explicitly anti-practical and if you are in one without an already existing career path (meaning you know someone who knows someone who will give you a well paying comfy job no matter what education you have) you are retarded and wasting a lot of money and time on nothing.

STEM degrees, as opposed to most humanity degrees, exist because there is an actual need for such people and they are basically job training and the piece of paper you get at the end of it will open you a lot of doors.

And this isn't meant to bash on anything, it is just the reality you need to face.

95% of psychology PhDs are unfunded, many require PAYMENT. Not only that, because there are so many fucking pseuds studying psychology, the postgraduate education and research length needed to get to a PhD can take as long as 7 fucking years. All for making around $74,000 starting.
I can tell by the way you write and the fact that you are capitalization negligence that you are a brainlet. At best, a low end midwit. So this consider, yes, yes, psychology is indeed the field for you.

In terms of career:

Psychiatrist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> psychologist

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No, the dude with black hair is the suspect. youtu.be/WiNMbCvc5Sk

In terms of cancer, psychiatrists are much worse because they prescribe pills and add to the huge mountain of the troublesome practice of doing so.

You aren’t a druggie are you? :3

But like why? There's quite a lot of engineering jobs that require much practical work if you don't want to get stuck behind a desk.

Both fields are total quackery. Psychiatrists are pill peddlers, psychologists are irrational philosophers.

Science. There is an undoubtable correlation between scientific discovery and artistic hobby. Both are the greatest manifestations of curiosity. Perhaps, you have some type of neuroticism that you must get over before you can be absorbed into a science. Or the alternative is that you are aware of all of this already, and that you know you are not a curious person, but only a pompous pseudointellectual.
insidescience.org/news/win-nobel-prize-science-make-art

You really are a brainlet. That's a complaint of modern medicine rather than one of psychiatry specifically. None of the fields of medicine will have a perfect cure for every disease that is within their specialty. Any medication that poses a serious cancer risk is taken off the market and you're more likely to get cancer from diet than by medicine. If someone has a real physiological mechanism behind their condition they should see a psychiatrist. If someone just wants someone to listen to their feelings they go to a psychologist.

Somewhat similar: I am finishing my computer science degree this semester. I have good grades and 4 years part-time experience - my CV looks nice. I plan to go back to university for a psychology degree since I'll probably kill myself if I stay in the software engineering industry. Not sure if I want to go down the clinical or the business psychology route. This is in Germany so it costs me nothing. How retarded am I?

>Even Wallace Stevens was in insurance wasn't he?
Kafka did also work in an insurance company

That's not retarded at all. Germany is pretty good for psychology, but I would suggest you to go the clinical route. I just looked up job offers for psychologists within a one hour drive from my kaff in lower saxony and there are literally 100.

undsooki

What about a linguistics major? Could anything be done with that?

Glad to hear that

That's exactly what I'm doing