Why is the average person such an insipid normie? Why must everything be now infantilised, commercialised and otherwise bastardised for sheer popular acclaim?
I don't understand, man. My parents were always very serious, mature people - I aspired to, once I grew up, resemble their sobriety and to get to delight in a happiness more of gravity than gaiety. Yet now most people seem to have remained in the antechamber of maturity. And, therefore, of genuine personhood.
Why must art include vapid humour or "likable characters"? Why must hate and toxicity be so rampant (everyone is, for some reason, a caricature of built-up hostility)? It's already enough living in a dying universe, why must the living act soulless? Please discuss, Yea Forums
Thinking and forming a personality instead of buying a pre-packaged one by corporations takes effort. Most people are too lazy to do either
Easton Miller
You must be fun at parties.
Joseph Johnson
I need a gangsta bitch (a gangsta bitch) I want a gangsta bitch yo (a gangsta bitch) I wanna "Gangsta boogie!" with my (gangsta bitch) I want a (gangsta bitch) I need a (gangsta bitch) (Repeat x2)
Yo, I need a gangsta bitch; she don't sleep and she don't play Stickin up girls from around the fuckin way Strapped but lovable, hateful but huggable Always in trouble and definitely fuckable See her now, booms and pounds, she's mine friend Puffin on a blunt, sippin on a Heineken She's got charm, a firearm to match mine Going to the movies packin' his-and-her nines Wearin Carhartt and leather, motherfuck the weather On Valentine's Day, doin stick-ups together No one to blame, no shame in her game And when we fuck she makes me scream out her name She's not petty; confident, ready Right for late night, we play fight with machetes. This goes out to all the gangsta ho pros: Give me a ghetto girl, fuck a Soul Train ho She likes to party with her posse and drink beer Pour a little bit out for the sisters who ain't here She's not the one, player you might get done Her idea of fun's takin her son shoppin for a gun Likes to dress to impress, quick to attack When your punk-ass boys run, you know she's got your back In a Benz with her friends, AMG kit Drivin down the street pumpin, "Apache you ain't shit!" Snappin on niggas, takin no shorts Sittin on a porch, pullin on a Newport Minds her business, knows 'cause she hears things Fat herringbone and diamond studded earrings She's a thoroughbred, walks and talks with class Try to get fast, she just might slap your ass Come meet my moms, but the two might not click Parents just don't understand...
I had a church girl, quiet girl, one girl was rich The most memorable girl was a gangsta bitch We went out a lot, sometimes we dressed the same Lickin shots in the park and had pet names I called her 'Dollars' 'cause that's what she liked to spend She called me 'Diamond' cause my dick was her best friend If you owed her dough, then you had to pay Bought her an AK for her 21st birthday We packed up and shacked up, didn't need a job Engaged to a criminal and married to the mob I gave MCs injuries and beat 'em down While she's, pickin up ki's, from Uptown Sad to say one day got caught out there I shed a tear when the judge said five years She's gone now so it's time to make my switch So who'll be my next gangsta bitch?
The large majority of people have always been idiots but the media used to control what they consumed. The internet removed that filter and now the lunatics are running the asylum.
Connor Young
I don't know, at least normies aren't religious sadists anymore
Cameron Lopez
People will always want to indulge in material pleasure. Such is the stain of the original sin. The reason why it all just seems to be so rampant and over the top now is because the Church has failed to stay true to their mission and allowed themselves to be corrupted and taken out of power. What you are seeing today is just what the world inevitably becomes when it abandons God: Vapid, self obsessed and degenerate.
This is not to say people were not vapid before, but the Church at least had some capacity and willingness to guide them towards something better. Today we are left completely free to fall to our own demise.
Joseph Clark
>When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Bentley Smith
>GOD! Why am I so much better than everyone else?
Global Rule #2: You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
Samuel Torres
>anything and everything is social posturing and self-aggrandizement
you are a woman and/or under 18
Angel Brooks
Cultural degeneracy; a taste for vulgarity. The value of capital over all has inverted man away from his spiritual satisfaction towards one of material.
Leo Rodriguez
idk ir eally don’t know. but i as well think of this
Evan Powell
A whole bunch of reasons. One I can identify is mass literacy arising in inverse proportion to biblical and classical literacy. This is not even about religion, I am not Christian myself, but being ignorant of Christian myth occludes understanding of much art and literature from before the 20th century, and when these works were not rife with Biblical references or motifs they were doing the same with Greek Myth. Most modern populations do not understand art beyond knowing it holds value and should be conserved in museums for valuable things. At best they appreciate that an incredible level of craftsmanship that most could not hope to achieve went in to the works, which is why, rather than a conceptual disagreement, most modern audiences, ironically, have a strong dislike for modern art as it is difficult to locate the craft-value of those works if they have any. They can appreciate that it takes skill to turn stone in to a statue of Jesus weeping, but whatever the MOMA is currently showing registers mostly as content indistinguishable from memes on their phones even if conceptually the work holds more in common with their own lives.
It is even worse for literature. Where as big bold monumental works of painting and statuary are immediately apprehendable, in at least some limited fashion, resulting in some attaining a kind of iconic status, books and authors are being rapidly forgotten en masse.
None of this is to say you are special or above others for getting art and literature, just that these things sometimes take work and if you lack even the basic foundation to parse the symbolic lexicon of western art you are not going to feel much of a connection to these works or a desire to deepen your understanding of them.
That is just my theory anyway, and it doesn't really cover why the millennial-zoomer audience is so hooked on patronising nostalgia bait. There is probably a complex answer there pertaining to economics, degree inflation, wage stagnation, and simple stories being easier to translate for the global market.
Zachary Rogers
Good Lord, man. I am trying to be bloody genuine for once, nothing else. It's this type of kneejerk burlesque critique that characterises our age.
I'm trying to be genuine because I never am so outside of privately. My social mascarade is one of a happy-go-lucky joie de vivre, but the mask weighs so much it deforms my real face.
People have always been this way. Actually, to get this thread back on topic, if reading literature from antiquity has taught me anything it's that the western mindset has not changed since the Bronze Age. People have always been stupid, iniquitous, selfish, and hedonistic.
The major difference between the information age and years past, I think, is the loss of religious feeling in the general population as a guiding principle in their life. I'm not saying that religion has any merits in and of itself, but when people used to deeply believe and devote themselves to organised religion, they weren't forced to give their own lives meaning.
The information age and scientific knowledge have obviously eroded the public's belief in religion, and as a result, most people are left in a moral vacuum where they are forced to give their own lives meaning but don't have the resources, knowledge, intellect, or understanding of the arts to manage this on their own. I think this creates a great feeling of angst and unease that is pushed so far into the subliminal in most cases that the public doesn't even realise it's there. They react by acting hedonistically, as triggering the release of endorphins is the easiest way to stave off the malaise that is constantly hiding in the back of their minds.
As a result, idle entertainment is the natural recourse for most people, and in conjunction with capitalism, which seeks to provide the lowest common denominator of interest to the public (see: Hollywood, top 40, Instagram, processed food), you get huge amounts of media created expressly for the purpose of entertaining the largest amount of people possible,
I could go further but this is the general outline of my theory OP. I worry about it a lot too.
Noah Martin
Based reply. I actually went to the local art museum on the free day earlier this month and watching the public interact with pieces of art that have stood the test of time for hundreds of years was horrifying. Grown ass adults, just completely unable to understand or comprehend works of art that have innate value to humankind.
Matthew Wilson
You don't know anything. The need for religion continues in secular fragmented society. Social justice and woke activism is their new religion.
Jordan Carter
You're not wrong but it's still fair to wonder why popular culture is so rubbish.
Colton Collins
I don't disagree, it's just that they are less likely to through acid on people and main their children for superstitious reasons.
Xavier White
the gayest possible sentence
Dominic Morgan
you sound like a redditor sissyfag desu senpai baka
Mason Williams
Where do you think you are?
Brody Watson
Do you have to talk like such a pretentious faggot?
Daniel Garcia
Based
Samuel Smith
Jesus christ man, I hope you're trolling and you're not actually like this
Jace Morales
What books expand on the ideas in these posts?
Ian Gray
should rename this thread to "the burger mindset" because that shit isnt that common in the civilized world
Zachary Morgan
This post feels incomplete. It's like you're trying to bring into words a very instinctive repulsion you feel when you encounter certain groups and certain segments of the media, but you're not actually sure what it is about them that you hate.
Matthew Jones
Yea Forums - literature fuck off with your whiny diatribes
Cooper Peterson
I don’t think genuine personhood has left the world. There’s of course a problem with people having a very surface level understanding of the world and art becoming commercialised. But interacting with people reveals that there are genuinely good people under that plastic surface who are simply living life the only way they know how. These people simply need communities to contextualise their own identities and the education system needs to be structured in a way that encourages free and fun learning rather than conformity. People see learning as work, so very few people care to educate themselves beyond what you can find in an undergrad curriculum.
As I kid, I had fun reading and had fun learning about history because my mother read to me as a kid, so I sought out those things of my own accord. Religious education is also important even if you aren’t religious because of how it shaped the entirety of western culture.
capitalism I mean those darned post-modern neomarxist immigrants!!
Logan Bennett
Because most people are semi-retarded and lack emotional maturity.
Hunter Wright
>through acid on people and Nazi! Bigot! >main their children for superstitious reasons my four-year-old who has a penis identifies as a girl now!
Jaxon Collins
Is there a word for when people think they're writing for an audience of erudite sophisticated gentlemen so they ham it up like crazy with what their limited experience tells them is how to sound erudite and sophisticated
>Ah yes indeed verily I longed to live as it were like my bonny parents; quite ergo apropos of jejune banalities—semicolons and em dashes, whilst indeed
It makes me cringe so fucking hard, actual pain
Hunter Kelly
Eh, not really comparable. People are still shitty, just some of the worst shittiness isn't institutional as it used to be
