Can you recommend me some good books on the art of debate?

Can you recommend me some good books on the art of debate?

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How representative is Twitter and Youtube politics of Millenials and Zoomers? Are we truly as fucked as SJWs, people like Cenk Jr in OP's pic, Destiny and their alt-right play-dates (not the ones that they accuse of being "alt-right adjacent" simply for disagreeing with them, but actual alt-right) make it out to be? Or are they fringe? Can't get a sense of how representative of the whole population these people are.

Is the Anglosphere and especially the US this fucking retarded?

Feel free to formulate an actual argument against Hasan's points in the picture anytime.

>trying to argue against someone who thinks argument is pointless

Why did the left suddenly decide that debates are worthless?

well those tweets in question was right after Destiny finally had enough of Hasan and debated him in earnest, so they are no longer friends

He's projecting his inability to debate and showing off his anti intellectualism. Very sad, Hasan.

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Just memorize all the logical fallacies, avoid making them and point it out when your opponents makes the mistake of using them.

talmud

>AHAHAHAH NIGGA HOW DO LIGIC BE REAL IF IT PTOVES DAT NIGGAS BE INFERIOR

Read plato

Fuck Hasan.
>make retarded point
>get called out for retarded point
>"but guise we're on the same team we should work together to fight the right"
he's literally the Sargon of the left

Schopenhauer's Art of Being Right

Hasanbug has a point here. "Debate" is mostly just a slightly more brainy form of talk-host shows nowadays, reading and off-record conversations with intelligent friends and rivals is where it's at.

Also I'm worried nobody itt seems to have picked up the distinction between logical coherence and truth. A well-built system needn't be cogent with the world.

Indeed. But I insist. How representative is this shit of the general population? Does every young Millenial and Zoomer think they HAVE to be into politics now? Ans speak about it with authority regardless of education? It almost looks to me like it's become a reproductive strategy for these people.

jus listen sum addi

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isn't this the guy who said women shouldn't call the police if they're raped because the rapist might be an illegal immigrant and get deported?

TWITTER SCREENSHOTTING FAGGOT GO BACK

yeah, the same one

he later changed his stance to: yes the woman can call the police but must accept moral responsibility if it was an illegal who was deported

Destiny had the potential of being a good political commentator if it weren't for his narcissism and attachment to an entourage of retards that reinforce it. Distancing himself from people like Cenk Jr is a good first step. It is unfortunately accidental and not representative of having found the right direction.

Genius

Why does he bring up the categorical imperative? Nobody gives a fuck about that, and its not the reason why Kant is famous

>muh books
>can't look at your eyes while talking
>muh logic
>no rhetoric
yeah Socrates, Plato, Aristotle... all faggots who lost their time debating and influencing people thoughts in situ

I remember a few years ago a lot of them were passing a study around which said something about conversations being useless and not really changing peoples minds. It was really dumb because all it was really saying was that people don't change their deeply held beliefs after a single conversation regardless of how strong the opposing arguments are, but a lot of people who should know better took it to mean that nobody changes their mind no matter how many conversations they have which is obviously false. Christian apologists are in the business of changing peoples deeply held beliefs and they recognize that it's a process, that it's something which takes place over a long period of time so the study wasn't anything new to them.

Maybe the study has nothing to do with it but that's about the time I noticed the left disengaging with any sort of real conversation with people they disagree with. To them the only valid option is to silence or intimidate since conversation isn't going to change anyone mind. And of course, the violence from them has been ramping up since.

They started losing

subtly redpilled

Based as fuck

Same reason they can't pass political turing tests. They're so in control that there's no reason to ever engage with the right. Nothing to gain and everything to lose.

I don't really disagree. The internet debate circuit seems like nothing more than a manifestation of awful, self-congratulatory ownage/clapback culture, and it's absolutely insufferable.