I want to read about women who are essentially female Conan, especially with Howard style prose and storytelling. Where should I start?
Aiden Cox
Can anyone explain what's going on in the end of Tlön, Uqbar. Orbis Tertius? Like, I get that the world is turning out more and more like Tlön and that this disturbs Borges, but he acts as if it's a big reveletation that Tlön was made up, but he already knew that Tlön was made up! That was the premise of the story. The revelation should have been that Uqbar didn't exist, but Uqbar was never important in the story other than as the place that had made up Tlön.
I dont agree. I liked the first law first book (mainly because of good character development in the barbarian arc) but second disapointed and the third I didnt finish and returned to the library.
Yeah thats right abercrombie, you hack, I paid nothing for your work and I didnt even Finish your SHITTY prose.
>LSD Acid doesn't make you see cool shit like that. It makes you obsess over angles, shapes and colors that are already there. If you want to see weird shit then you should go for something like shrooms or DMT.
Nathan Ramirez
Anyone ever read this? I just started today and the 3 legged alien is cute. Is it worth anything though?
I'm writing massive space opera and I'm just consuming everything that's must-read, in order to build my repertoire.
> Anyone ever read this? You mean one of the most famous sci-fi books of all time? Nah, no one has ever read it.
Some good ideas but sub-par writing and very dated.
Eli Gutierrez
>He haven't done a large dose
Benjamin Nelson
I have actually. Large doses of acid makes it difficult for you to focus and you get lost in your own thoughts but you don't really see things that aren't there. Acid enhances your perception so that the world appears more vibrant than when sober but it won't make you see things that don't exist.
Cooper Bell
>nice picture >shit hands nnnnnnnooooooo
Austin Morgan
>womeme author Don’t act like you didn’t know what you were getting.
Connor Brown
It seems like monthly user has run away for good...
>>womeme author LMB is a great writer, hang yourself incel trash.
Jaxon Hernandez
yes
Samuel Morgan
If she's so great why does she feel the need to self insert as a 16 year old flawless princess?
Josiah Sanchez
CNo
Hudson Brown
No idea why you're getting so hung up on a side character, the book isn't even really about her. I'd get it if you complained about the writer using a damsel in distress as a plot crutch but the princess doesn't even have enough of a role to say she's a self insert. It's pretty much all about Cazaril from the beginning until the end so I don't understand what's triggering you so much.
Juan Carter
Maybe
Carter Clark
They're all sequels, but in my experience: The Hod King - Bancroft Moon Rising - McDonald Shadow Captain - Reynolds
Are we ever going to get the Atheist, Muslim, or Jewish equivalent of Book of the New Sun? What would that even be like.
Carter Reyes
>No idea why you're getting so hung up on a side character, the book isn't even really about her. I'd get it if you complained about the writer using a damsel in distress as a plot crutch but the princess doesn't even have enough of a role to say she's a self insert When was the last time you read it?
It would be Prince of Nothing which is just nihilism and pretentiousness.
Grayson Green
Lads I need some more weird/occult horror along the lines of Laird Barron I've also been listening to the Magnus Archives and I'm on a kick of "unknowable horrors from beyond space", rituals, cults, etc
Jackson Cox
>still in the mood to read some bad bitches S&S after finishing Warrior Witch of Hel >decide to check out the Red Sonja 6 book series written in the 80s >the entire series is online, but only in German >can only find books 1 and 5 in English What madness is this?
Not that user but I read it last month. If you seriously think the princess is a perfect self-insert, you need to get your head checked and then re-read the book. A female side character being competent and useful is not the same thing as a perfect self-insert. Go read some YA trash if you want to see a real self-insert perfect female character.
Everything is triggering him. Quite literally, everything.
Jewish BotNS is Evangelion
Juan Russell
Muslim BotNS is Dune, mang.
Ayden Bennett
>A female side character being competent She doesn't put a single foot wrong in the entire fucking book you spacker. That's more than just being competent. >Go read some YA trash if you want to see a real self-insert perfect female character. Why when I could just re-read Curse of Chalion.
Benjamin White
Stop giving him the attention he desperately wants.
> The Library at Mount Char That book was terrible. Tried too hard.
Ryder Fisher
Yeah, I just figured out he was a troll, since the princess in question makes a mistake in like the second or third chapter of the book that she keeps in mind down the line. He would have known this if he'd actually read the book.
>What's the sci-fi equivalent of sword and sorcery? Planetary Romance or Sword And Planet it's closest to S&S. My waifu Jirel of Joiry
Zachary Taylor
>investigate starship >there are living quarters for women on this space ship >clearly the men needed some entertainment I miss 70s fiction
Noah Peterson
>Even now, it is sickeningly easy for beings to get lost in false grand narratives, living out completely driven lives in pursuit of non-existent codes, ideals, climaxes and golden ages. In blindly thinking that their stories serve absolute ends, such creatures almost always end up harming themselves, if not those around them. >To those like the misguided; look at the story of Man, and come to your senses! It is not the destination, but the trip that matters. What you do today influences tomorrow, not the other way around. Love Today, and seize All Tomorrows!
What do you mean "overwritten"? I thought the author overexposed the bad guys/things, is that what you're talking about?
Brandon Nguyen
I am planning to read the Lyonesse Trilogy. Is it really that good, /sffg/ bros?
Nolan Campbell
Takes a lot longer than a week to sort what one wants to read. I know. Time really adds up quickly when going through so much.
Dying inside is indeed absolutely amazing. I didn't mention it because I saw it in the OP.
Collection or anthology? Collection tends to by one author, anthology tends to be by several. What is "actual fantasy" to you?
Christian Gray
I have a problem where a lot of short story writers that I like haven't written any novels that I've liked. I know they are entirely different, but it still baffles me how there's such a disconnect.
I don't have any much problem with novelists that I really like and their short stories, if any.
Jonathan Sanchez
If they were 2 years going to mars, probably
Ian Wood
I really like the Witcher World, but Ciri is an annoying cunt and the story is shit. What do you recommend?
Luke Taylor
Unironically my diary desu
Carson Moore
>since the princess in question makes a mistake in like the second or third chapter >you din't know whether or not he was guilty!!1 >I mean he was, but that's not the point So even when she fucks up she's in the right. Good job proving me wrong faggot.
Benjamin Wilson
What does sffg think of NK Jemisin? I know she's sjw trash, but are her books any good?
Zachary Robinson
witcher main stories are shit. the shorts are where its at. also the games because they arent written by the book author.
No. But you can look forward to her raping lovecraft’s mythos in the next year or two.
Dylan Martinez
A collection. In the actual fantasy there is always swords and shit.
William Edwards
>but are her books any good? No.
Jose Jackson
That's hot.
Parker Turner
Remember when Africans were an enlightened peaceful network of countries? No, me neither. Because no one was until Europe made that shit work after we nearly blew ourselves up.
Landon Phillips
>tfw too smart to be constrained by planetary gravity
If you're still looking for some check these Demon in the Mirror by Andrew Offut Silverglass by J.F Rivkin Frost by Robin Bailey Swordmistress of Chaos by Richard Kirk (aka Robert Holdstock the guy who wrote Mythago Wood)
>Swordmistress of Chaos by Richard Kirk (aka Robert Holdstock the guy who wrote Mythago Wood) I got this guy's viking S&S trilogy in my queue. Probably gonna start in on it after I read this Red Sonja novel.
Julian Barnes
Well come on then, post it.
Leo Scott
>Here's a story full of white people. they're all fucked up. they're screwing each other,they're cannibals,there's incest everywhere. Why does she say this as this was strange in scifi? she basically described every Heinlein novel
Robert Phillips
But I doubt Heinlein was writing that stuff because he's a cunt who hates white people.
Christian Hill
Are litrpgs still popular? I feel like they've been dying out, or at the very least moved out of the spotlight.
Jaxson Wilson
I know, right? And it's totally white societies that have always been big into cannibalism and incest. Those heat maps that show those things belonging exclusively to non-whites and rare among east Asians are just pol propaganda. We wuz spiritually enlightened feminists n shiet
Kevin Flores
She's a massive cunt who has a following because she openly hates white people which is apparently trendy these days. She does nothing but cry about how "da white man be putting me down" while simultaneously being propped up by the "industry" simply because she's a black woman. Also her books are utter garbage.
Carson Brooks
whiteoid seething that whites aren't the main characters in her (very good) books
Kayden Gonzalez
Sharp Ends, Abercrombie. Lesbo take on Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
Levi Peterson
>Abercrombie He's a literal meme author.
David Thomas
bait Which one is good, and why?
Cameron Diaz
> shadows of carcosa should be just what you're looking for
Elijah Cooper
>Abercrombie lol no thank you.
Jace Edwards
>Muh meme author Riddle me this, Grimderppler: did Abercrombie, or did he not, produce a book that provides bad bitches doing S&S shit? Right.
>bad bitches doing S&S shit Typical brainlet Abercrombie fans. He has no place in the S&S genre. If you like his garbage then that's fine, but don't trick other people into consuming his shit.
Gabriel Murphy
Did not enjoy it, but then I never read it until maybe a year ago, in my mid 30s. Too goofy and self referential and juvenile imo.
Evan James
You ever see the little banner from ? Go ask how to summen a sucubis
Tyler Scott
>Swordmistress of Chaos by Richard Kirk (aka Robert Holdstock the guy who wrote Mythago Wood) Was not aware of this, I enjoyed the mythago wood books though, gonna check it out.
Jace Clark
The Complete Chronicles of Conan the Barbarian
Jason Hill
>Talks shit on a book >Hasn't read the book >Constant samefaggery >Accuse others of deception I can't imagine the level of loneliness that drives you to be this emotionally invested, grimanon. Maybe get out and make some friends in the real world. It's not hard as long as you don't sperg out
Would you rather berry your face in those cheeks or a good book?
Hunter Kelly
>not having a huge ass row of women with the book written on their asses so you can enjoy asses and read the book you want
Isaiah Reed
So I am reading through Snowcrash and the author makes repetitive remarks about how stinky and obnoxious old spice is. The fuck? Was it the axe of the 80s or is my deodorant that fucking bad?
Nathan Murphy
Old Spice had kind of a reputation as an unfashionable brand until that ad campaign in the mid-2000s turned their image around.
Jack Brown
Gentleman (and the one woman looking at this) I am happy to say I'm taking a break from sci-fi and reading a little woo-woo now: Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson. Something something about Tim Leary's 8 circuit model of consciousness. It's got some good humor in it, but I haven't found a quarter on the floor yet by "willing" it. I like it, and yes I get it - question everything. I'm learning to take myself less seriously, and that has helped the most.
How is The Illuminatus! Trilogy? Is it even /sffg/?
Old Spice is strong and recognizable, also Stephenson is a shit author. Snow Crash is a fucking cringe fest of garbage writing and edgy faggotry.
Ian Jenkins
Damn I wish I could experience a lightning tribulation irl
Jayden Bailey
Yikes.
Gavin Taylor
Can anyone rec some /sffg/ audiobooks? I have a long as fuck commute every day and I like to listen to something while driving. So far I've finished The New Sun, The Wheel of Time, and The Black Company series. I'd like to find some more long book series that will last me a while, but shorter ones are fine too.
The Culture series, my friend. Listen/read in publication order. (You may skip Consider Phlebas if you like)
Thomas Roberts
I wrote a short story about a Conan-Clone that goes around fighting pirates, killing savages, and sleeping with exotic women. I'm currently in the process of writing a final draft of it. After I'm done with it, what do I do with it?
I've never written anything before, and I'm nervous about how people will respond, if at all. I'm not wanting to make a career out of writing, I just want to write stories about big burly barbarians and curvy clothless courtesans.
Lincoln Morales
>How people will respond You gotta make people read your work and then care enough to review it and then said review reach you. Just do it man. Worst come to worst its a cool hobby and some people might call you an idiot and others call it meh, at the very best you get rich and famous or shit, or in this case since you dont want a career, some community and people to chill with.
Josiah Russell
Make a royalroad account, post it and share the link here
Luke Adams
I'm tired of all the deconstructions, recommend me some degenerate shit /sffg/
William Ross
Strange Relations by Philip Jose Farmer
Brody Perry
Haven't read a fantasy book in a couple years, went searching for one and realize every book is written by a woman or about a girl
Blake Gray
What do you mean by degenerate
Ethan Cox
Sounds neat. Downloading it now. Is the first book unrelated to the others or what?
The books in the series all take place in the same universe, just many many years apart and with different characters. Also some folks are torn about the first book, but I enjoyed it.
Parker Cook
>but I haven't found a quarter on the floor yet by "willing" it
Reading Prometheus Rise and Quantum Psychology in 2019 as opposed to 1999 can be a wild trip. Travel back in time to the date of publishing and imagine how things were then.
>How is The Illuminatus! Trilogy?
The audio book can be a fun listen.
Gabriel Richardson
Post it here. I'm down for some s&s kino
Zachary Reed
>I just want to write stories about big burly barbarians and curvy clothless courtesans. Understandable, but I hope you at least TRY to make your Clonan somewhat his own character.
Noah Jones
"went searching" where? most authors I see on the shelf are still men
Ayden Martinez
My plan is to flesh him out more in other stories, but for now he's pretty rough around the edges, as far as personality goes. I'd say he's more lecherous and foolhardy than Conan, and more calculating. There are a several other major differences, like background and beliefs that set him apart.
Basically the only thing that makes him similar to Conan is that he's a Big unstoppable murderfucker whose rolling across Sword & Sorcery-land with a hunger for gold, gore, and girls.
Benjamin Young
Is the Horseclans series any good? Because the covers are pretty great and they're making me want to check it out.
>Cazaril doesn't even die in the end This book really shit itself
Adrian Wood
Looks cool desu
Charles Torres
>start writing story filled with dumb anime tropes for fun, like mecha, space politics, and scheming edgelord characters >ripped off a ton of stuff like Gundam, LoGH, Eva, and other sci-fi anime >always thought it was unpublishable so I started putting it up online on various sites
Should I try sending it to a publisher anyways? I'm almost done with the fourth ~24k word volume. Are there publishers who put stuff like this on the market?
It's ridiculous how far the quality for cover art has dropped for fantasy and sci-fi over the years. I'm assuming Horseclans was a middling seller (if even that) yet the cover art for these books stomps a fucking mudhole in pretty much all covert art for modern bestsellers.
Give him a sidekick of some sort. S&S needs more bros being bros protags.
Levi Perez
Yes,good entertainment with no deep meaning just a bunch of bros fighting evil nerds.
Bentley Perry
Have you read all of them? Is there a stopping point where the series becomes shit?
Christian Nelson
Bad covers should be punished. Either art colleges dont teach skills anymore or the publishers are saving money on the artists
Carson Richardson
The worst that happens is that it gets rejected. Then you can just self publish. If you can market yourself right, maybe as a slick new progressive writer breaking boundaries and sticking it to The Man, then you have a chance at making money.
Why the hell don't people talk about Mary Gentle? Rats & Gargoyles didb't really work out, but this Orthe shit is incredible.
Any other recs for sf in this vein (anthropologist making early first contact with intelligent species on his/her own). The first Orthe book is at least as good as Left Hand, and def better than A Woman of the Iron People
Samuel Butler
I've got a lot of ideas regarding sidekicks and bros that he'll meet up with in future adventures. In this first tale he saves a mischievous young lady from the clutches of some pirates, and she plays tagalong for the course of their adventure. Which leads to some interesting and hilarious stuff happening.
Hudson Foster
I read up until book 12. You can stop with the first book or the 3,but every book tries to be stand-alone,like those conan comics from marvel,book 11 is pretty much the end,all the books after that are mostly prequels/midquels and or so i've been told,but even before that the series had some prequels,book 7 is set 30 before the events of book 1 for example so the series always liked to jump on the timeline.
Gabriel Flores
And all the books you read were decent?
Gabriel Perry
I cringe slightly at your post but also slightly intrigued. Post some of your stiff here sweety
Just over halfway finished with this and I'm surprised at how good it's been so far. Nothing really original or that would ever win any awards, but some very solid S&S that I would recommend to even those virgin geeks who don't read S&S. Also I think modern media has poisoned me so badly that when I read these older novels with female protags I expect them to have some degree of man-hating feminist bullshit despite the writers being men and they just aren't. I'm sure the Red Sonja film being made will be nothing but man-hate, but there's none of that crap here (so far anyways).
>the guy who wrote Mythago Wood So it's probably shit like mythago wood
Xavier Lewis
You mean you couldn't find the sparknotes.
Jeremiah Anderson
Swing shift is out on audio yesterday. Why does audible release books on Tuesday?
Luis Parker
No
Aaron Morgan
Western chinkshit is the new litrpg. Also original chinkshit is enjoyed by brainlets because they where bullied in school, and they can self insert as the protagonist who is all powerful. It's why they say western chinkshit is trash. The protag doesn't start as a killing fucking machine they can self insert as.
Jaxson Rivera
>i find you freaky and like you a lot Take your 3dpd ninja used up pussy elsewhere.
Kevin Watson
>flatlet brainlets consider those flat asses fat No wonder America is into pedophilia when you are attracted to asses that 11 years old boys have.
Luke Jackson
Fuck off these covers are shit. All they needed to do is remove the helmet and give the guys long hair, and it would be the shit romance books I used to see my mom read decades ago.
Asher Powell
>getting this triggered over masculine looking men lol Jesus Christ, zoomer. Society has really done a number on you hasn't it?
Jayden Price
>implying I'm a zoomer Fuck off. Every thread you shit on "modern covers", and this is what you place up there as the pinnacle?
Parker Gomez
At least you didn't deny the portrayal of masculine men triggers you, ZOOMER. Now go question that sexuality somewhere else.
Mason Green
Show a good cover then? The horseclan covers the (arguably based) user posted awakened multiple warrior genes in me.
Alexander Nelson
>Show a good cover then? I hope he posts a cover from an artist that has been working for decades and claims it's a modern cover kek
Nicholas Torres
It looks like a cheap frazetta imitation
Justin Ward
Cheap Frazetta imitation > modern covers. Now post a modern cover, BY A MODERN ARTIST, you think is better, faggot.
John Jones
No
Joseph Davis
That's what I thought, bitch.
Joseph Scott
i'm not the other user. i'm not going to get in a shitfight about what is "modern", what is "good", etc. Probably less than 5 percent of what i read is "modern", and since none of those books are picked out from a bookshelf the covers mean nothing to me. I can just recognize a trite, insipid cover when I see one
Apologize and rip out your own tongue, and I will spare your clan
Oliver Rogers
>gurps >shits on Malazan >reading this roleplay shit
Jayden Lewis
I just realised that Guy from naruto was a cultivator.
Elijah Gonzalez
You are extremely retarded if you don't know the difference between an RPG based on a book series and a book series based on an RPG. Now go be a faggot somewhere else.
>The protag doesn't start as a killing fucking machine they can self insert as They tend to early fucking on though. >regularly killing other people with no issues in their early teens, if not tweens
These bugmen books make me so mad how you have to kowtow to powerful people. Or how they pick on you and try to rape your girl and you release your seals and they bow and beg forgiveness. They were going to kill you and rape your girl, and because they saw they bit off more than they could chew they beg to spare their lives. Shit gets me mad.
Cooper Wood
The chink on the right is ugly and the one on the left looks like a fake whore. Just use their vag then discard them.
Anthony Powell
No. Have sex fa/tg/uy.
I like how (because he is Chinese) he doesn't have the chad giant dick bulge.
Techncally, no. There is no cultivation or any Daoist elements. Even though immortality is a prevalent theme in the series it is not the goal of the MC, which it needs to be for it to qualify as xianxia.
How would you define "litrpg"? Like, basically animu in novel form? I can't stand Burando Sandaasu
Kayden Young
I finished the Eisenhorn trilogy and really enjoyed it. I've seen people say it was one of best 40k books with most others being trash. If there are no other good ones it got me in the mood for some similar books. Any recs for sci-fi mystery/adventure/action?
I'm interested in reading BotNS, but I'm a booklet and something took me off guard I understand that it's comprised of four volumes, but the total page count for Book of the New Sun itself is 950 pages, whereas the page count for all four volumes combined is 1225 pages what's the deal with that?
I'm conflicted, guys. I want to write a story I genuinely enjoy. I think I can bust onto the fantasy writing scene with a big blockbuster book, but the time it would take makes me want to try a smaller, simpler project.
How do one-off fantasy novels fare in the market? I want to test the waters and my writing skills before going for something overly grand.
Jack Turner
The first was some Hunger Games ya bullshit and the writers prose is trash but it was decent after that.
>How do one-off fantasy novels fare in the market? They don't, especially not ones from new writers. To have any kind of success in the standalone fantasy market as a new author, you need to touch upon the realm of "magical realism" which is essentially fantasy lite that appeals to mainstream audience, so basically you need to shove some sjw ideologies into it and set it in Africa or some other shithole. Or you can try being a woman writer, even better if you're a black woman writer
Like the other user said don't make it an accident next time and just go all out. Don't worry about incest being divisive, as long as both parties are attractive enough then you're fine even if they're mother son.
Aiden Jones
IDK, I saved it a while back. Image search says Martina Finnochio, so I guess she's actually Italian
Ian Smith
Post it faghot
Hunter Powell
Calm down incel
Cooper Allen
have there been any good recent tranhsumanism/posthumanism science fiction books? The last thing in that vein I read is the bobiverse trilogy and reynolds elyisum fire and shadow captain + peter Watts Freeze Frame Revolution
I already read everything Revelation Space, Peter Watts and most of Greg Egan's stuff as well as the Quantum thief books. I like grand scifi with very high tech, don't like old scifi much that was written before the internet was a thing
Aaron Davis
The most recent major transhumanist work of any note are the Count to a Trillion books. But they're subtly about how transhumanism is kind of a spook. Wright's earlier Golden Age books are probably closer to what you're looking for.
Kevin Scott
Yeah I actually already downloaded all the count to trillion books, its what i plan on reading next. Already read and liked the Golden Age books.
Anything new cyberpunk/nanopunk would be cool too
Jack Murphy
found void star and thin air by morgan, i'll add those
Kevin Flores
So you read accelerando?
Hudson Butler
Yeah For the past 4 years I have been devouring anything remotely cyberpunk/postcyberpunk It's only kind of fiction that gives me the same feeling I had when I was a kid reading fantasy
The singularity won't happen but it's nice to dream about, it's my blue pill ersatz for nihilism
Bullshit. Some of the xianxia I've read are more sci-fi than real sci-fi with trillions of planets and interstellar travel. Not once have I encountered a flat world in any chinkshit that I've read.
Levi Cooper
Tales from the Flat Earth by Tanith Lee. Warning though: Lee is a chick, BUT she's one of the few chick writers worth reading.
Jaxon Sullivan
Not that I know of, but seeing how cyberpunk is going to be the new meme genre for the next few years I don't think you'll have to wait long
Brandon Barnes
Not that guy, but I read Two Lions, a Witch, and a War-Robe in an anthology a while back and was impressed. Been considering reading something of hers. Anything I should start with?
Joshua Miller
Tales from the Flat Earth, Birthgrave, and Wars of Vis seem to be her most popular stuff so start with any of those I guess.
Connor Thomas
Name of artist?
Brody Hernandez
I rewatched Ghibli's Tales from Earthsea and got reminded how underrated and great it is, think of finally picking up the books.
Any opinions on them? How are Le Guin's other fantasy works, anything worth reading or is it all SJW shit?
Ryder Sanchez
Red Sonja ran, striking down anything in her path. A bloody, blinded trooper staggered before her; Sonja killed him with a single stroke—but assassination was a kindness compared to what gnawing rats had done to the soldier’s face. Sonja stumbled and almost fell across a still living young man whose grotesquely swollen body was being endlessly penetrated by countless hornets—to him, too, Sonja dispatched a fast and blessed end.
BRUTAL.
Luis Robinson
If you like postmodernist crap like modern art and modern architecture then by all means check out Le Guin since she's the literary equivalent of pic related.
>He was great of stature, both tall and broad. Barrel-chested and gigantic, but not in the malformed manner of an ogre. His skin rippled with the muscles of a veteran warrior, and that skin had a reddish tan. Upon it were painted long flowing serpentine patterns in bright red, especially around his sword-arm. His armor, chiefly a breastplate, greaves, and helm, was a gold-bronze which shined like the sun. On that armor were carved fine and intricate patterns, with similar motifs to the long flowing warpaint on his skin. Attached to the breastplate at the back was a flowing cape of fine fabric, coloured red with nearly dazzlingly bright yellow-gold knotwork patterns. All about the man was the energy of the Solar, bright and shining and red and almost impossible to look upon and take in all at once. is this any good for a beginner
Evan Morgan
Kinda bad.
Camden Reed
You tried. Too much trying to wax poetic about a character's clothing or appearance is cancer.
Levi Rogers
discworld, literally in the name
Ian White
Finally a discussion about something other than fantasy.
>cyberpunk is going to be the new meme genre for the next few years >new genre Do you even read? Unless you consider litrpg cyberpunk.
Leo Garcia
You know what's bizarre? Random cussing in a story that doesn't fit at all. This Red Sonja novel I just finished had 3 instances of cussing ("shit," "assholes," and "get fucked") and they were all random and felt wildly out of place; especially the "assholes" and "get fucked" lines which happened back to back near the end of the book whereas "shit" popped up around the middle. Actually dragged the story down for me a bit because of how ridiculous it came across. I've never read any book with this kinda random cussing and only 3 instances of it. It was like whoever edited this book stuck them in there for a laugh.
Carter Hall
Someone nominated this one for monthly reading and it had me thinking about how lame it was. The monster on the cover doesn't appear in the story. It's mentioned somewhere in the middle of the book but then the writer just forgets about it and it's never mentioned again. Makes you wonder how much an author who could do such a thing respects his readers or his craft. The story is a lazy promotion for the author's wicca beliefs anyway, and it's hard to take a person who believes in such things seriously.
She has Lovecraft's racism without any of his new ideas. I like some of the concepts she presents in Fifth Season, but it all reads like a mixture of the smut your mom waxes off to while your dad's at work and a sincere hatred and disgust of people that are different from her.
Lincoln Martinez
Riders of the Purple Wage. That shit's all about incest, fucking, and degeneracy into political action cafes.
Tyler Edwards
Technically, you can count Silmarillion until the end of the story of Númenor, since the world was flat until Eru made it round.
Noah Ortiz
Thinking of including a rape scene for every named female character in my story. Some of them could be grouped together so it wouldn't be more than 5 or 6 scenes. Is this a bad idea?
Carson Young
It's your story. Do whatever the fuck you like. Since you only seem to care about the rape I wouldn't worry about quality.
Ian Lopez
>tfw Suzie references Earthsea and I remember I've been meaning to buy the full series >went on Amazon and ended up picking up another book entirely Fuck.
Gavin Bailey
>It's your story ;) but I'm going to make a passive-aggressive comment about how your writing is bad because rape offends me.
Robert Carter
Aww. Did your Christian feelings get hurt? Sodomy must make you livid.
Isaac Parker
It doesn't offend me, it's simply boring.
Sebastian Hill
I don't believe you. If you just thought it was boring there would be no need to make a comment like you did.
Julian Turner
Nice try, bugman.
Mason Bailey
Flatland (d'oh). Flattest of them all.
Hunter Torres
I vaguely remember reading something years back--I even want to say it may have been a Sanderson interview or some sort of interview--but there was a mention or suggestion that authors in (IIRC, both) fantasy and sci-fi don't have control over their cover art unless they're hugely popular. However, it is a vague memory and I could be completely wrong but I think of it every time you faggots bitch about covers (which is every fucking thread). I'll try to research the topic when I have a bit more time.
Tyler Martin
Please lurk for at least two years until you learn how to properly greentext.
Benjamin Morgan
whats /sffg/'s consensus on neil gaiman? considering ordering some of his books but id like some opinions first so i know what im getting myself into.
Jack Reed
He's a bitch ass limey faggot.
Alexander Sanders
I know that Lois McMaster Bujold sincerely hates her covers because they're Baen covers, but the one time she overruled marketing the book sold poorly so she never made a fuss of it again
Carson Diaz
Reading Desolate Era makes me wish Yerin was the MC instead
Jace Gomez
He peaked with Sandman (which would have been mediocre as prose instead of a comic) and has been coasting on it ever since.
If you try to "get into" Gaiman you'll be disappointed.
Dominic Butler
based take.
She was shilled hard even when she was writing garbage. I thought the Fifth Season showed a noticeable improvement in her writing style, but the sequels demonstrated that she has about zero self-awareness and, like you said, just hates everybody who isn't like her.
Nicholas Bailey
This is unironically good insight into the Chinese mindset.
Jacob Myers
Different print runs -- font, spacing. I wouldn't worry about it.
Kevin Rogers
Someone bluepill me on Andre Norton. Currently reading The Toads of Grimmerdale because it was suggested as a good horror/fantasy story. Is the rest of her Witch World stuff worth checking out?
>Sanderson writing advice If your book doesn't have a lot of women heroines it's bad! Go to a publisher even if they don't actually help you with anything nowadays that self-publishing doesn't already do! Aged women and homos should gatekeep all fantasy literature it's their prerogative shitlord! And this guy pretends to be a mormon.
Ubik is pretty cool and mindfucky without being too late PKD to be good. One of his best works really. Alfred Bester is just great and The Stars My Destination is one of his better ones though I prefer The Demolished Man I think. Barely remember Ringworld beyond the psycho cowardice of the puppeteers.
Dominic Brooks
Did... did he actually say all that?
Julian Harris
>Go to a publisher even if they don't actually help you with anything nowadays that self-publishing doesn't already do! You should refrain from making statements about the publishing industry, you don't know what you're talking about. Just in case you seem to think this is some form of Sanderson defense, it isn't, he's a hack but you are also a moron.
Tyler Morgan
Traditional publishing is dying and good riddance.
William Clark
Maybe it's dying or maybe it's just in a state of transition, who knows, it's a complex issue. In either case if you think a NYT best selling author is better off self publishing in the current industry, you're an idiot.
Austin Taylor
The worst of all possible takes on Le Guin. What is remotely "postmodernist" about her work?
Dylan Morris
The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas
Pure postmodern garbage. Even won a fucking Hugo for that shit.
Jackson Watson
Please explain what postmodernism is to you and what is postmodern about that story.
John Nelson
Oh god
Aiden Wilson
>Please explain what postmodernism is to you Garbage. >and what is postmodern about that story. It's garbage.
Grayson Davis
>postmodernism Hello Dr Peterson, care to explain what that term means?
Jeremiah Hernandez
It's too much; blurs the image in the mind before you even finish describing it. Just say three things, stop, and let the rest trickle in later.
Tyler Kelly
Postmodernism, also spelled post-modernism, in Western philosophy, a late 20th-century movement characterized by broad skepticism, subjectivism, or relativism; a general suspicion of reason; and an acute sensitivity to the role of ideology in asserting and maintaining political and economic power.
Daniel Hernandez
Very nice, you can copy/paste a definition Care to explain what that means in the terms of literature? How is the book postmodern?
I decided to look what female authors I've liked, though that's complicated by pen names. F&SF = The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction
non-novels: Still Tomorrow's Going to Be Another Working Day Amy Griswold F&SF 733 September/October 2017 By the Light of the Electronic Moon Angelica Godorischer F&SF 707 May/June 2013 Savant Songs Brenda Cooper Year's Best SF 10 The North Revena Ladies Literary Society Catherine H. Shaffer Year's Best SF 18 The Trader and the Slave Cinda Williams Chima The Way of the Wizard Stable Strategies for Middle Management Eileen Gunn Best of the Best: 20 Years of the Year's Best Science Fiction Kormak The Lucky Elenaor Arnason F&SF 708 July/August 2013 MetaPhysics Elizabeth M. Glover Sympathy for the Devil Collector's Item Evelyn E. Smith The Golden Age of Science Fiction 10 What Do You Do? Gillian Flynn Rogues Last One Out K.B. Rylander F&SF 726 July/August 2016 Wilder Still, The Stars Kathleen Ann Goonan Reach for Infinity A Love Supreme Kathleen Ann Goonan Year's Best SF 18 Freezing Rain, a Chance of Falling L.X. Beckett F&SF 738 July/August 2018 Cupid's Compass Leah Cypess F&SF 727 September/October 2016 Attitude Linda Nagata Reach for Infinity Nahiku West Linda Nagata Year's Best SF 18 Anything For You Lisa Mason F&SF 727 September/October 2016 An Unearned Death Marissa Lingen F&SF 732 July/August 2017 The Egg Man Mary Rosenblum The Year's Best Science Fiction 26 Alexandria Monica Byrne F&SF 729 January/February 2017 Act One Nancy Kress The Mammoth Book of Best New Science Fiction 23 Exegesis Nancy Kress Year's Best SF 15 Liberty's Daughter Naomi Kritzer F&SF 701 May/June 2012 High Stakes Naomi Kritzer F&SF 704 November/December 2012 Solidarity Naomi Kritzer F&SF 706 March/April 2013 Containment Zone: A Seastead Story Naomi Kritzer F&SF 713 May/June 2014 Jubilee: A Seastead Story Naomi Kritzer F&SF 717 January/February 2015 The Silicon Curtain: A Seastead Story Naomi Kritzer F&SF 720 July/August 2015 Evil Opposite Naomi Kritzer F&SF 733 September/October 2017 Liberty's Daughter Naomi Kritzer Year's Best SF 18 Rings Nina Kirki Hoffman F&SF 731 May/June 2017 The Properties of Shadow Nina Kirki Hoffman F&SF 737 May/June 2018 Speech Sounds Octavia E. Butler Wastelands The Desert of Vanished Dreams Phyllis Eisenstein F&SF 726 July/August 2016 My English Name R.S. Benedict F&SF 731 May/June 2017 Morbier R.S. Benedict F&SF 738 July/August 2018 The Lady Who Plucked Red Flowers Beneath The Queen's Window Rachel Swirsky The Year's Best Science Fiction & Fantasy 2011 The Day of the Nuptial Flight Sarina Dorie F&SF 714 July/August 2014 A Mother's Arms Sarina Dorie F&SF 724 March/April 2016 Suicide Watch Susan Emshwiller F&SF 739 September/October 2018 Hhasalin Susan Palwick F&SF 709 September/October 2013 The Deepwater Bride Tamsyn Muir F&SF 720 July/August 2015 Widdam Vandana Singh F&SF 735 January/February 2018
The Word for World Is Forest by Ursula Le Guin is good.
Nathan Fisher
I decided to look what female authors I've liked, though that's complicated by pen names. non-novels:
Aiden King
Nice incel joke!
Ayden Sanchez
Do you have a resource to get the newer F&SF mags? Been looking and I can't find them online
Levi Bailey
Yikes
Parker Cox
>NorthSTOMPER
Elijah Brooks
I've been subscribed since 2012 for the Kindle. Grandfathered in special price of $0.99 per month, so $2/issue. I've exported to them to Calibre and can read them on the PC if I want, lose access to them after a year, and I'd rather not, but I haven't bothered to remove the DRM to share them. Currently requires my Kindle serial number to access.
Damn that's a good price. I'll keep looking, I'm sure they're out there somewhere
Elijah White
Maybe. The circulation for all mags is rather low.
Evan Watson
The abyss strikes again
Gavin Nelson
I found a torrent a while back but I only downloaded a couple issues. Big mistake. Clarkesworld, Asimovs, and Analog are all pretty easy to find but not F&SF for whatever reason.
Liam Brooks
I liked Hitchhiker so I read Douglas Adams's Dirk Gently books and what the fuck I don't understand the ending in either book. I don't understand how the "solution" in the first book resolves anything and in the second book it's like it just builds up to a climax and then skips the scene where Dirk presumably defeats the villains and then we see the villains get defeated and the happy ending.
Oh yeah and what's with the title of the second book? I get that it's vaguely funny but what does it have to do with the plot? Actually, it's kind of the same situation with the Hitchhiker sequels, each book is just a phrase taken from the first book.
The books are written to be fairly convoluted, the first more so than the second, so it's understandable that you wouldn't get the full extent on a first read; I don't think most casual readers would without a corkboard and red string. It might have been just because I first read them when I was fourteen but there was a lot of stuff I didn't get until my second read.
The ending of the first book doesn't "resolve" anything in the sense that the alien ghost is still around and now has a time travel clone, but they do manage to stop it from undoing its mistake and prevent it from trying again via indirect means. That's pretty much the best they can do since the established rules of the plot state a ghost can't actually go away until it feels it's finished its unfinished business. Also you're right that the end of the second book feels really abrupt, that's why I feel like it's the weaker of the two.
The title is a callback to the bit in Life, the Universe, and Everything about Wowbagger going insane with boredom due to his immortality, and how what really gets him is teatimes on Sundays. The same more or less applies to the Norse gods in the book, who are well past their prime and are just trying to fritter away eternity.
Jason Edwards
About the first book: really? But how does changing the plot of the poem Rime of the Ancient Mariner actually affect the events that take place in the book? How does it prevent them from taking the ghost back to the distant past?
Chase Butler
According to the book, Coleridge wrote Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Kubla Khan under the influence of the ghost, which couldn't keep a hold on him because he lost his buzz. Kubla Khan is about the paradise the aliens were going to build on Earth, and Rime is about the ghost's torment of accidentally dooming the ship. The important thing is that the second half of Kubla Khan, which doesn't exist in real life, describes in detail the process by which somebody might undo the ghost's mistake in the past, create the paradise, and subsequently prevent all of Earth's history from happening. Wenton-Weakes becomes vulnerable to the ghost's influence, in part, because he reads Coleridge when the ghost attempts to grab a hold on him, and he knows what to do because of Kubla Khan. By causing the second half of Kubla Khan to be lost, they lessen the influence the ghost has on any minds in the future, and prevent any explicit instructions from surviving. An established detail is that a spirit's power waxes and wanes irregularly, so the ghost can't just keep trying to possess people at full strength.
Cooper Johnson
Litrpg is honestly pretty awful and cringe
Tyler Rivera
Sandman is pretty great. Stardust is standard fantasy but fun and very tightly written. Neverwhere may also be alright if you want Fallen London isekai. Everything else is pretty boring.
Nathaniel Parker
Why can’t anyone write some good settlement building litrpg without stupid gimmicks
Angel Lee
>good >litrpg There's your problem.
Evan King
Daniel Black. But sadly he has the harem gimmick.
Chase Rogers
Release that Witch if you dont mind chink shit. Its not a litrpg and it has some gimmicks though
Elijah Hill
>settlement building litrpg without stupid gimmicks the ten realms.
Ian Stewart
Discussing Litrpgs is punishable with death by virginity.
Robert Harris
Maybe out there somewhere there's a light novel that does this to your satisfaction.
Dominic James
More or less but less directly honest of course. It's from his writing class on youtube. He defends publishers and their agents who gatekeep books without "strong heroines" because "lol those books aren't any good anyway" and tries to deflect from publisher agents being of a single type of people after a single type of book (read: old women and homosexuals). Yeah nah, he even admits they barely can help you out anymore beyond getting paid upfront or setting up book signings and that's only really if they're part of the Big Five. He still shills them anyway despite not coming up with m(any) positives.