The passover

so why did god kill all of the firstborns in egypt? why did he not just kill pharaoh?

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The angels get restless with no one to murder

because if he killed the pharaoh, the slaves wouldn't be let go, a new leader would simply be instantiated

fair enough but the firstborns did nothing wrong
surely it would have been better to kill pharaoh and all of the slavemasters?
if he's gonna mass murder lots of people it might as well be the actual bad guys

It's all part of the master plan user. Besides I am sure God will be nice enough to sent all those dead Egyptian kids to heaven while their parents suffer in the mortal world.

>if he's gonna mass murder lots of people it might as well be the actual bad guys
Then there would be no people left on earth.

>but the firstborns did nothing wrong
Exodus 1:14 and 1:22 implicate the entire Egyptian people, not just pharaoh (although the pharaoh of Exodus 1 is probably not the same one from later in the story since Moses comes back to Egypt around 70 years later)

But you should also mention how god repeatedly "hardened pharaoh's heart" to make further plagues necessary, culminating in the slaying of the first born. The justification for this in the text is that god wishes to multiply his miracles so that his supremacy over egyptian gods can be self evident. This supremacy is an important theme of Exodus, which begins to posit a kind of explicit monotheism that Genesis did not.

People actually believe this god is real and not some power fantasy created by a bunch of savages lmao

Because it's a made up story written by bronze age plebes. You expect too much of it if you ask for it to be logical

Ok, and? What does that have to do with anything?

It has to do with the post I replied to. Are you retarded?

I fail to see how. You don't need to actually believe in god to continue the thousands of years old intellectual tradition of biblical scholarship.

Saying "theists r dum lmao" adds nothing to the discussion of what the author may have meant or what this text meant to the ancient Hebrews and subsequent peoples.

read Gregory of Nyssa's "Life of Moses"

interesting is matches with Chesterton explanation in everlasting man, about why wont God be vengeful in a land full of peaty and vengeful gods(im badly paraphrasing here).

Yaweh was a volcano daemon originally, and always had the firstborn of everything from sheep to humans sacrificed to him.

The anglos get restless with no one to murder*

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Maybe because for some reason God wanted to institute a holiday about sacrificing firstborn sons and something to do with lambs' blood that would later come into play down the line? Did anything ever come of that or was that plot thread left hanging?

[citation needed]

>christians hate abortion
>YHWH kills gentile children on the regular and condones the jews killing canaanite kiddies for kicks

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>Christians think sacrificing one's children to Moloch (or any other deity) in the oven is an unspeakable abomination
>Worship a God whose personal method of Divine reconciliation consists of sacrificing his own child on a wooden cross to Himself, because apparently omnipotence could find no other means of forgiving a species who themselves never even existed at the time of Eden, let alone inhabited the Garden, or happened to personally consume the forbidden fruit (which God lied about killing those who ate it, and Satan told the truth to)

Based Christians, Based YHWH, bad Satan.

Can anyone remind me why only the Jewish mythologies are taken literally again, and everything else in literature, religious or otherwise, are simply works of fiction? Never understood why only Judaic tales carry the stamp of historical fact on themselves.

>why only the Jewish mythologies are taken literally
Most Jews don't take them literally, only orthodox Jews are fundamentalists. If you ask a conservative, reform, or reconstructionist rabbi if there really was an Abraham who really bargained with God not to destroy Sodom they'll tell you that it's just a story.

But Christians do take many of these tales literally. Jews don't, because they are based, and a very intelligent group of people - but for some reason, their younger siblings (Christians and also Muslims to a degree) did not seem to inherit the same approach to their scriptures.

t. has no idea what he is talking about

I recently heard an interview by an occultist who described Biblical angels as "God's hitmen". Thought it was pretty accurate.

I once read the plagues and death of the first borns are all poetic ways to attack the Egyptian gods and demonstrate the superiority of the Israelites god but don't quote me on that one

Christians take many of these stories to be literal, historical events, and the scriptural characters of Yahweh, his angels, Satan and otherwise to be direct representations of literal supernatural entities. If there's something incorrect in that statement, please correct me.