Brainlet here, where do I start if I want to learn about psychoanalytic theory?
Brainlet here, where do I start if I want to learn about psychoanalytic theory?
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First you have to wash ur pp
Why?
After washing pp u have to cut it off (no transitioning or u lose the oedipal context and have to reenact an electra complex
Why would you want to learn it? It just gives you a shitty made up framework to pigeonhole everything into. Why don't you read about actual clinical psychology?
After this (and only this) you may finally begin. You will not only know psychoanalysis but you will become a practitioner who has lived psychoanalysis
Freud's Interpretation of Dreams
Warning: this board hates psychology in general. So what you want to start out with is Freud, then move on to Jung and Adler. From there take on Bettelheim and Klein. Most of these individuals are supremely controversial.
If you want an example of a brilliant theorist who 'lost it,' read Wilhelm Reich. If you want anti-psychiatry, John E. Mack, R.D. Laing and Thomas Szasz are where you want to head next.
Top to bottom:
Marx Engels Reader
Freud Reader
Freud as Philosopher
The Blank Slate
The Social Animal
Walden Two
The Art of Loving
Escape from Freedom
Mass Psychology of Fascism
The Divided Self
Politics of Experience
Politics of Ecstasy
Varieties of Religious Experiences
The Sacred Canopy
Man's Search for Meaning
The Undiscovered Self
Man and His Symbols
Memories Dreams Reflections
Modern Man in Search of a Soul
Bollingen Series
No Logo
How to Read Lacan
Lacan to the Letter
Ecrits
Seminars of Jacques Lacan
Logic of Sense
Capitalism and Schizophrenia
Chaosmosis
Freud to begin continue into Lacan
Many materialist will dissuade you from trying to read or study psychoanalysis. Their attacks on the subject are quite poor but I wont preach to someone who already knows he wishes to learn. Please read these books and preferably in order as they will introduce you to the topic. I will give my reasons for including each book below. Also I don't think I need to say this but most of Yea Forums does not read.
Man and His Symbols
The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious
Memories, Dreams, Reflections
Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Nietzsche's Zarathustra: Notes of the Seminar Given in 1934 - 1939
Man and His Symbols is a great introductory text, it distills psychoanalysis to its raw fundamentals and teaches the vocabulary necessary to understand the subject. The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious is a deeper exploration of the topics spoken of in MahS. Memories Dreams and Reflections is Jung's autobiography, in which he analyze himself, it's good to read because you can understand where his biases are. Finally we read Thus Spoke Zarathustra to prepare for the last book, which is Jung's psychoanalysis of Nietzsche's greatest work, a whopping 1910 pages worth. By this time you will need no further guidance. I would recommend The Kybalion, The Art of Memory by Francis Yeats, Interpretations of Dreams, The Great Mother and to generally read stuff outside of JUNG.
>Many materialist will dissuade you from trying to read or study psychoanalysis. Their attacks on the subject are quite poor
I'm willing to bet you haven't even read their attacks. Keep living in La La Land you ressentimentful pussy
Correct.
>Keep living in La La Land you ressentimentful pussy
Lol.
>I'm willing to bet you haven't even read their attacks
Classic projection
read The Freud Reader edited by Peter Gay. It is a collection of complete and abridged selections from throughout Freud's career, covering the pre-psychoanalytic theory, the early, middle and later theories, psychoanalytic practice, dream analysis, psychoanalysis and art, religion, and anthropology, Freud's life, and some other shit. basically read Freud.
do not do this. it is long, somewhat unclear, and better appreciated in full after a good deal of other reading under your belt.
this poster is trying to trick you into becoming a meme Jungian. Jung is not a psychoanalyst; he broke away from most significant psychoanalytic concepts and therapeutic practices and is not well-regarded by most analytic theorists and practitioners. introducing someone to psychoanalysis and barely mentioning Freud is plainly a retard with an agenda.
>this poster is trying to trick you into becoming a meme Jungian
I'm not trying to "trick" anyone into anything. I explicitly state to look out for biases in Jungs work and to branch out into works outside of Jung. As for Freud he opened the door to the house of psychoanalysis but he had terrible biases and a need to be correct the first time, never revising or revisiting his work in the face of new data and new ideas. For example his insistence that all neurosis stems from suppressed sexual urges. Offering Freud to someone that wishes to know more about psychoanalysis, is like offering the code of Hammurabi to someone who wishes to learn law, it's simply outdated. Also I like Frued, by all means read The Interpretations of Dreams, it's a rather good book.
>Jung is not a psychoanalyst
That is simply untrue. Just because he began to develop his own techniques that diverged from Freud people like to attack Jung. However, Jung left us what Freud never did, case study, after case study, after case study, successes and failures. Freud only talked sparing about his cases and I cannot recall a single time he wrote about a failure in his treatment.
>not well-regarded by most analytic theorists and practitioners.
Not regraded well-regarded by the Freudian community, the truth of the matter is all materialist look down on all psychoanalyst, but Freudians also look down on Jungians, because they believe that Jung shamanized an empirical method of study. This is a false premise because psychoanalysis has never been empirical. Jung accepted that, Freud never did.
To conclude, my suggestion of Jung before Freud comes down the the final book in my suggestions. Nietzsche's Zarathustra by Jung is an amazing case study that every psychoanalyst should read, there isn't a single case study from Freud that even begins to touch it. I won't call you a retard or suggest that you are trying to trick someone into becoming a Freudian because I don't think either of you. However I will reproach you for suggesting an abridged, edited and generally chopped up version of a masterpiece like Freud's The Interpretations of Dream. If you don't have the time or patience to read Freud in its entirety, the subject is simply not for you. Now let us end this divide between Freud and Jung and simply read both.
As other anons mentioned, start with Freud. You can ignore Jung for the most part because the Lacanian school is where it's at, he's not as simplistic as Peterson makes him out to be but he's largely in opposition to Lacan. Read Lacan's commentaries on Freudian texts and find some commentaries on Lacan's commentaries because they're hard to understand.
Don't. Read Jung
Five Lectures on Psychoanalysis. Freud was speaking to an American audience, and he assumed they didn't have medical training.
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What is this?
While I agree that psychoanalysis is dogshit, I have to tell you that all of modern clinical psychology is pure fiction.