When did you realize that the ability to give proof assumes that God exists

Very true and awhile ago

Based and transcended redpill/10

How about this: logic is a higher level metaphysical law of reality

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What leads you to believe this?

Thw impossibilty of the contrary

A few months ago actually

The impossibility of the contrary makes the contrary of the possible possible. Not that you would understand that heh.

You just keep saying it's impossible; what makes it impossible?

Gaytheists don't realize some conception of spirituality is a litchpin for any real order and truth in principle.

You keep on insisting that what you say is true without providing arguments or evidence that it is.

1: If logic wasn't a higher metaphysical law, then argumentation wouldn't be possible.
2: Argumentation is possible
3: Therefor logic is a higher metaphysical law

>If logic wasn't a higher metaphysical law, then argumentation wouldn't be possible.
Why would it be impossible?

Then logic wouldn't be able to tell us anything

Why?

Becuase we assume the metaphysical law of logic when we reason

Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Why wouldn't we be able to deduce anything with logic if it was not metaphysical?

Becuase reality wouldn't be logical if logic wasn't a metaphysical law.

do you really need to repeat Why like a child to refuse seeing the truth? Our reality depends on logic, every single manifestation is dependent on this law.

Not the guy, but OP’s blatant refusal to elaborate his bizarre theory requires one to egg him on.

And it’s not like OP is even correct, there is nothing inherently metaphysical about logic.

If you allow for the assertion of God, you'd have to allow for the mere assertion of logic and reason instead otherwise you'd be a hypocrite

But this assumes that the phenomena that we see occurring in the universe follow logic, when they could also be a random sequence of events. Even if were to take this statement as true, how could this be a proof of God or gods? If god can exist prior to the universe, why can't basic universal laws of logic?

Im not op tho
t. The "logic-is-a-metaphysical-law-guy".
I'm just showing that the presupp argument can be made as well for the metaphysical law of logic as for the existence of god.

You seem angry for no reason, I'm trying to get OP to expand on what he is saying because he is being vague. If you cannot expand on your beliefs to make them more clear without getting angry you appear to be defensive, perhaps implying that you are not so certain as previously claimed.

I agree partially. Logic doesn't partake in pure metaphysics but logic shares a relation with it.

>STOP ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN MY POSITIONS OR PROVIDE EVIDENCE!
Yikes.

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I think logic is below ontology, logic needs being to exist, logic can partially represent being but being is prior

That guy isn't me, I'm to nice and collected to be so rude.
t. Logic is a metaphysical law

How about this: Logic is an emergent property of being

Agreed, that's why I said it is inherent to manifestation.

There is no agreement on what are the ultimate axioms of logic even in mathematics. The evidence would point towards a negation of your 1.

>when they could also be a random sequence of events
And that would render all “proof” meaningless and coincidental, as OP said.

Logic is just the science of judgments and statements. Its existence raises ontological questions but in itself it doesn't need judgement to rely on a firm ontological foundation. People itt are making a dogmatic affirmation of what is actually a difficult problem (namely what is the underlying relationship between ontology and logic, if there is one at all?).

Logic cannot be below being, or else being is illogical. Logic is that which exists necessarily.