Was he a proto-communist or proto-fascist?

Was he a proto-communist or proto-fascist?

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Why? Explain yourself

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neither
both communism and fascism are unjust

On a long enough time scale those two converge more then either group would like to admit.

How about both and neither

He was a Greek.

How about somebody defines their terms

Occultist.

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There is no difference.

This bot needs to asses context better and not just respond to key words.

a theocrat, one who rules in accordance with the divine archetypes and orients society towards the highest Good and its comtemplation.

So, shit thread.

Plato was nazbol

He was clearly a proto-communist. He rejected poetry on the basis of its lack of value within the context of production. His ideal city was entirely based on optimizing production.

neither communism nor fascism have actual morals and ethics
ideology is a poison

ancient greek philosophers would have never been hamstrung by ideology, thus they have 0 to do with current systems

Neither. The application of modern economic models to ancient systems is a completely vacuous exercise.

he was a proto-Guenonian

his ideal city was entirely based on optimizing gnosis*

For him, that was the same thing. He'd abolish all frivolous pleasures if he could because he judged everything based on production and did not see the spiritual value in occasional waste.

marxism is materialist and historicist, they don’t believe in spiritual gnosis

Is this what butterfly actually looks like? Why does everyone say she has a penis? She looks cute.

plato was a nazbol

was plato nazbol?

I don't see how that matters. Being proto-communist doesn't mean he has to fit communism to a T, there just has to be a way to trace back some of its core values to him. His prioritization of production in his remodeling of society is pretty blatant.

Cringe.

He was actually NazTrot