My doctor is trialing me on dexamphetamine (Australian version of Adderall) in order to improve my attempts at studying.
I love to read yet can barely finish a book. I haven’t been able to finish books consistently ever but I’ve always dismissed it as a product of the age we live in, and ubiquitous nature of the internet and screens to look at.
Will this help me read and study? I’d like to know what it’s like to be able to hold my attention on something for longer than a few minutes.
What did you say to get a prescription?
Uni students literally pay $20 a pill for Adderall
A quarter pill of that keeps me awake for 20 hours.
And anything more than 3mg is headache inducing.
Gotta make sure you’re doing the thing you want to be doing when you pop the pill. It makes focusing easier.
But if you don’t set yourself up you end up drinking coffee and jerking off for 8 hours straight.
What I'm saying is: you'll regret taking a whole pill.
Although you get like +15 IQ on it (or rather, the quantity of quality thoughts increase, if you have nothing to begin with . . .)
Start writing and you become a fountain of analogy. Whatever your natural abilities are they become enhanced.
Don't
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more like 5$ at most for one pill
I just did a line of coke before I did an all nighter. Saved me a lot of money.
I was on various prescription, amphetamines, mostly dexamp, for four years of college and two years after it.
For me, they made it much easier to focus on nonfiction reading but harder to focus on fiction. On amps, the technical becomes way more interesting; reading about math, computing, and science becomes more engaging than ever before. But when reading a novel, one becomes bored and yearns for the end of the page; one thinks, "why am I doing this when I have to do X and Y and finish Z?" Granted this isn't the case for everyone, but most would probably agree. Can't recommend speed for retaining and deeply pondering fiction, but if you need to slog through a bunch of a novel for coursework it's not bad.
I know you didn't ask for this but if you're just getting into the stim game here's some advice for taking care of yourself and ensuring the most positive, sustainable use:
>Drink water, more than you think you need
>Limit caffeine unless you have unusual tolerances or need coffee/tea for other purposes
>Avoid fruit, juice, and strongly acidic food/drink until you're past the crest of the day; acids greatly interfere with amp processing in the body by speeding up excretion, which is bad in the morning but desirable when you want the stimulant out of your system later.
>Take a few modest supplements. You don't need to spend a ton or get anything experimental. Antioxidants: some of the good ones are vitamin E, selenium, astaxanthin, ashwaganda, ALCAR, idebenone; there are many others.Take decent fish oil and a multivitamin with the fat-soluble ones. Magnesium in the evenings is nice, as it counters damage from the stim and is also depleted by it. Aspirin is super cheap and protects the heart very nicely, but be wary of mixing it with other blood thinners.
>Appetite will be suppressed. Nuts are a good snack, enough calories and nutrients to tide you over without being oppressively filling.
>If you work out, you can do well and feel great on speed, but you absolutely need to watch your heart rate, drink water, and not overexert yourself.
>Take at least one day off a week from the drug. Your body will thank you.
>Set a schedule for yourself in advance. Without structure, it's easy to find yourself spending the whole day playing vidya or doing something else more immediately enticing than your work. Can help to have someone else ensure you spend your time well.
>Do your best to avoid all-nighters; with speed in you they're even less sustainable than sober. Your sleep is very important.
>Don't be alarmed if it feels like the med loses effectiveness. It will continue to be helpful even if the feeling of achievement is lessened.
>If you smoke cigs, on speed you'll probably go through them quicker than usual
Take care, OP. Hope some of this is useful.
>I haven’t been able to finish books consistently ever but I’ve always dismissed it as a product of the age we live in, and ubiquitous nature of the internet and screens to look at.
ah fuck where can I get stims in Canada I'm a loser with no friends
whoops, should have mentioned curcumin among the antioxidants, it's definitely worth a try before something like idebenone.
OP, if you do read on speed you should totally reach for a copy of Godel, Escher, Bach. That's the optimal time to read GEB.
if you really are retarded the pills will chill you out. if the doctor prescribed it because he thinks your a bitch hes literally handing you a bottle of have sex aiders.
ur a pathetic pre-junkie
books for this feel?
This. Don't get caught in an 8 hour porn spiral. I know it doesn't sound likely but it happens constantly to stimulant users.
Darknet
This. Definitely go to the library so you can't look at porn.
Hope you guys like dopamine neurotoxicity and a vastly increased chance of getting Parkinson’s
I miss reading on adderall. Lucky ass fucking nigger OP
>Will this help me read and study? I’d like to know what it’s like to be able to hold my attention on something for longer than a few minutes.
We're not doctors OP, if he prescribed it to you, there's only one way to tell.
>you get like +15 IQ
Idiotic Quotes
Aren't doctors supposed to get you off narcotics instead?
Depends, only out of the ones that don't make a profit for big pharma.
not literal IQ in the sense of taking the test, but functionally I'd say that's correct
It just makes whatever thoughts you have feal like genius ideas
they're the same thoughts you could have sober. It's just the nature of the uptick in dopamine that creates the illusion of increased IQ
Thanks very much for the comprehensive advice. I work out quite prolifically and I was wondering if that would affect my regimen.
>not having sex with druggie gf also on adderall for 8 hours railing it while you bend her over a desk and stopping for bong rips
Sad!
They are right about not taking much. Don't listen to your doctor if he tells you to take it every day just stockpile it has a 100 year half life. Start with around 5mg if you can split them small enough but it might not do much depending on your weight and metabolism.
IT will definitely help you read. Adderall works by releasing and inhibiting dopamine from being broken down so anything that interests you will give you an extreme drive where you tunnel focus and are constantly rewarded until you realize time stopped and its suddenly 12 hours later and your mouth is completely dry and your stomach is empty. Take it as infrequently as you can to avoid addiction.
My advice would be to use it like an SSRI and train yourself to get the drive to accomplish things without it through habit. Then get off it to avoid temptation and if you took the advice of taking it infrequently and stockpiling you should have a lifetime supply for emergencies or crunch week once a year.
I'm going to the doctors tomorrow for shift work sleep disorder, hope I can make my hands on some modafinil
That's exactly what I said, you have the same thoughts but the pills increases the "brain energy/stamina" so that you churn out more of them. Why taking more than half gives me a headache. And why
>if you have nothing to begin with . . .
And no it's not like weed where people say you only think that your ideas are good, this only happens if I start writing or arguing with someone online, the quantity you can spew out while on dextro is not fantasy.
I also only take it like once a week.
>giving advice about abusing drugs
don't go down this rabbit hole OP
you are so cool because you're having sex with another druggie while surprise on drugs how can we be more like you
You can also try the grey-area stimulants like phenylpiracetam, oxiracetam, etc, etc.
Say you've had a weak cough for months and get Terbutaline. Makes you jittery like caffeine and apparently works a bit like steroids of you go to the gym (no bullshit, loon it up).
The only way to truly find belief is to surrender certainty, and find certainty.
Although Catholicism is pretty gay tbhfamalam, figuratively and literally.
Wait how did i get into this thread
I was responding to some guy in religion thread
>taking medication for “mental” reasons
yikes
There’s a lot of good advice in this thread, OP. Listen to the ones that sound like they’re looking out for your health and best interest. Obviously ignore the ones that are bragging about how cool it feels or how often they can take it with no problems.
I started taking it when I was 18 and used it intermittently throughout college. It feels really good but it didn’t make me a better student because I would just procrastinate until the last 2 hours before deadline rather than last 4 because I knew I could cram it in better. So it actually worsened my habit forming for years. I wish I had the discipline to understand its double edged sword. After college (I’m 25 now) I found a good psychiatrist who basically gives me like 90 pills a month. I only use it for crunch time at the office, so once a week at MOST. I stopped taking it recently for the past month because I felt myself getting manic, too happy, the masturbation problems that other ppl mentioned. Also I can’t get a decent boner on it anymore because it constricts your blood vessels I think. This didn’t happen when I was younger too. But I still feel horny so if I’m really fucked up I will just jerk on a limp noodle, yeah I feel like a loser junkie during those times.
So I’m basically off it completely and prefer a nice cup of coffee. But it has utility, it really does work. But anything that works that well is definitely problematic because it creates a dependency / reliance on it
20 dollars is freakishly high for one pill. Also, the script is easy to get.
God damn I could write so much on this shit now that I'm typing. The last post actually made me sad while typing because I have a very circuitous relationship with substance use but never quite got bad enough for rehab or deeply fucking up my life.
Addy and amphets also kill your appetite, and I was really into lifting and fitness from 20 until now, so I would even use to suppress my appetite and not eat for an entire day, just to try to get my body fat % down. Sort of like some of the psychos in the /fa forum. But it makes running and working out too easy when you're on it, so the offdays would be too hard. Thankfully I'm reformed off that shit and I never take it before working out, or if I do it's a really special circumstance like I have a really busy day and then have to fit in a 30-55 minute workout during a specific time slot in the evening. Good news is that I just run 30 miles a week now for leisure and to stay in shape and I'm doing ok.
But enough about myself. OP, I've always had time management and discipline problems myself. Addy has its merits, but its better to learn self control through other resources.
Resources I've used are a) talk therapy with a psychologist. Someone you respect or can form a relationship with. They don't fix you in one meeting. You go regularly weekly or every 2 weeks and work out your shit.
b) resources like books, podcasts, research articles, newsletter that are designed to increase your productivity. Other people suffer from these problems too, and the podcast versions are perhaps the most human where they talk about how they get through each and every hurdle, each and every temptation to fuck around on the internet or eat a piece of candy whatever. A great book is "Power of Habit". Bestseller list, blah blah. It's a quick read. Also random people post articles on how they focus throughout the day in op-eds on like Nytimes, Wall st journal etc.
I'm far from perfect myself. But I'm looking for long term sustainable happiness (as are a couple folks in this thread, which inspired me to vomit my 2...00 cents). Been looking for habits and patterns that I can take to my 30s, 40s, 50s whatever so that I can work on things that I love and make me feel fulfilled. And yes I've stared at a computer for 12.. 24 hours and somehow done nothing. Between Yea Forums, youtube, facebook, instagram, snapchat, whatever. They really do fuck us up.
Since it's /lit, I think Tim Wu has some cool books on the topic of platforms / apps trying to siphon our attention with distractions to accumulate tiny revenues that add up. One book is called "Attention Merchants" but he has others. As well as other researchers/ scholars who write on a similar subj
Any recreative aspect to the drug?
Just curious
It's an amphetamine, what the fuck do you think?
Combination with weed?
That's pretty degenerate dude, not good for you. The combination is not good. Used to do a lot of 4-FA before it was illegal, combined it many times, almost killed me. You really don't want to be in my position, now I have permanent heart problems and the lingering threat of a heart attack. I've been however 4 years clean.
>I love to read yet can barely finish a book
i love to read xD
Adderall kills your creativity, and eventually your motivation. I've been up for 3 days now on it-unintentionally-and I'm dropping this shit for good
t. on CYP2D6 inhibitors