}*justifies totalitarian dictatorship*

}*justifies totalitarian dictatorship*
>*justifies heirarchy*
>*justifies boyloving*
>*also justifies killing boylovers*
Was Plato simply too based for us mere mortals?

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Fpbp

That's what I absolutely love about Greeks. The free thought of their philosophers. Now you can pick up any work that's survived to our times and think it's "based" while it's merely a well thought out and stated opinion. Here's a redpill, humans are free to a certain degree and we can do whatever we want if we have power (violence). If whatever we do isn't dysgenic, it's good (we are evolving), if it hurts out species, we degenerate and stop being competitive with other groups of people. Kill boy lovers, fuck boys, do whatever you want. In the end only history will judge you.

fucking retard

The only thing Plato ever justified was ataraxia. None of his dialogues were arguments for a particular philosophical belief.

>no. 3
Wrong
He was opposed to all forms of sodomy and called homosexual sex contrary to nature. Read Laws.

When he tried implementing his ideas in Syracuse it was a complete disaster, not once but 3 times, he was basically the marxist of ancient Greece
People always forget this

This :3

Fucking retard

what a tool

philosopher kings must be celibate

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>Platofags forver blown out
Aristotle is too based

>when tyrants tried """"""implementing"""""" his ideas in Syracuse it was a complete disaster

>It wasnt real platoism
>JUST ONE MORE TRY
back to your cuckcave you featherless chicken

The Republic was a purely abstract model made primarily (arguably only) for the state. Plato would never actually support the implementation of such a system because he's essentially against having children. But wait, you've never actually read a word of Plato, you only marathoned the school of life video and skimmed through the wikipedia, and you come here pressing the keyboard keys with your most likely foul, long fingernails with two inches thick dirt under them, spouting rancid garbage about 'platonism'

How did you manage to channel the perfect form of retardation into this post? Truly you have exited the cave

>straight to the ad hominem and then stops dead, without providing any counter-argument

based

>Laws
>old fucks butthurt they can't trick handsome young boys into sleeping with them anymore
Read symposium.

Now the dumb thing about your line of argument is that it is countered with weight equal to your own argument by saying "read Symposion LMAO" or "read Phaedrus LMAO", and none of us are any wiser.
And that's the thing about Yea Forums. It's undergraduate posturing through and through.

>implying the majority of Yea Forums posters went to college

Read the OP post again lad.

It failed because he failed to make Dionisius the Tyrant a "philosopher king". Dionisius was a prick who didnt listen to Plato.

based idiot kek

>The Republic was a purely abstract model made primarily (arguably only) for the state.
You do realise that the whole point of the book is defining a just soul, and the state is simply a metaphor, right? It's applicable at all levels. Individual, state, humanity as a whole.
>Plato would never actually support the implementation of such a system because he's essentially against having children.
Lol what? Thats a big claim buddy.
>But wait, you've never actually read a word of Plato, you only marathoned the school of life video and skimmed through the wikipedia, and you come here pressing the keyboard keys with your most likely foul, long fingernails with two inches thick dirt under them, spouting rancid garbage about 'platonism'
I read The Republic, Symposium, and Laws for Political Philosophy class and I re-read Republic just a week ago.
That's a ton of projection you have there my friend.

explain how it's any different to Stalin abandoning marxism

r u gai

What?

based

seethe and cope retard

troglodytes everywhere

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top lad

YOU FUCKING IDIOT SUBHUMANOID SWINES

HE WAS DECLARING HIMSELF THE BEST POSTER

EVERYTHING HE SAYS IS RIGHT AND THERE WAS NO MISTAKE

FUCKING SWINES

first reply best poster

You're so pretty let me suck on your boyclit

t. man living in the cave

Even in Phaedrus and Symposium Plato still argues against the act of sex with a young boy. He argues for the channeling of that boy love, that he may have had, into tutoring them into higher philosophical beings...

This, all of his works are merely justifications of philosophy in itself.

>}*justifies totalitarian dictatorship*
explain?

It's this canard proposed by Karl Popper that Plato's Republic supposedly provides a blueprint for totalitarian politics. It's all bosh.

Why is this not more obvious to everyone? He was Socrates' student!

Sex drive doesn't going away with age.
Symposium does not endorse this practice either, it's poor and shit tier translations, often intentional, that use erotic notions of love in place of those more akin to platonic love, which brainlets like you extrapolate from to justify your own beliefs, not even realizing how contradictory they are to what Plato believes. Your posturing is nothing more than projection; it is you that's probably some butthurt (figurative and literal) undergrad faggot upset that one of GOATs thought your practice was an abomination.

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I see the pattern. Interesting. Is it possible that the philosopher cannot be king, nor the king philosopher?

Well, Plato was wrong in saying that people in heterosexual relationships are less 'addicted to pleasure' than homosexual relationships. They are both just mere facts of the biological imperative, with no metaphysical substratum whatsoever, the only difference between them is that one can result in offspring and the other cannot; though it's quite an understandable error, as evolutionary biology wasn't a big thing in Ancient Greece.

no, he was a hack

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What I most love about that image is how the body fits perfectly with the size of the head.

b a s e d
and retardpilled

Has there ever been a successful ruler or statesman who ruled by ideology instead of realpolitik?