China’s new ‘social credit system’ is a dystopian nightmare

>we won't have social credit
We literally have an entire system based on Sexual Misconduct. Your life can be destroyed for uttering a single wrong word.
We don't need centralised government algorithms to accomplish this because every citizen has already denatured himself into its processes. This is far more 'intrusive' than anything China could come up with.

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Brave new world is still the dystopia that came true for the west. He was even right about bumble puppy.

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>oh god, we can't be filthy degenerate scum anymore without facing consequences, how "chilling"
unironically china did nothing wrong

Digits confirm that antimodernists are satanists and Huxley gave us an image of the perfect utopia.
There's nothing wrong with a pill to celebrate daily life. If anything, it represents that we are too wealthy. And if you disagree you should go read up on the Prohibition era.

>Was Orwell right?
No he was pretty objectively wrong

Sure is summer in here.

Literally all those except japan applies more to America and the uk than the rest of the world

During the prohibition era alcohol related diseases dropped almost completely.

How do you even boycott Israel?

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Wow, and if you castrate dogs they can't get testicular cancer!

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>describes communist regimes of his era but with slightly more advanced technology
>Did Orwell predict the future guise????????

sounds similar to credit score desu

The prohibition laws were just too strict, if they just limited the size of brews and made distilling illegal there would be no issues and all the benefits of prohibition.

>clearly says bottled in Atlanta, Georgia
Selling to Israel =/= Buying from Israel

Gay.
Imagine being a Dionysian against fun.

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But what if we're all niggers?

>autism
America is Israel, sweaty.

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I don't like how you post images.

>SOCIAL CREDIT BAD

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It would give the rich and powerful more control

>t. Dionysian against fun.

People bitch about social credit but say nothing about credit scores.

Credit scores can stop you from getting a job and a place to live. They are real and affect us right now.

>Being this much of a cuck for the government

Imagine thinking giving up your rights, freedom and private life to the leviathan is an npc move. Muh safety is peak npc.

but that's just how the ~*~free market~*~ works, user

It's nobody fault but yours if you keep defaulting your credits cards, son

Same with facebook. Almost all employers will check your social media, and if you don't have any credit you won't get the job.
This is superior, in the sense of power, to the Chinese system because it is willfully accepted by the populace and requires no extra infrastructure. It is instead written into the same systems of entertainment and spectacle.

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>not being an alcoholic is comparable to being mutilated

We have a social credit score here in the "free" countries too, except it rewards anti-social instead of pro-social behavior in addition to enforcing the state orthodoxy.

>presence of alcohol means the entire populace is alcoholic
Listen, Greg, you may be a weak-willed Nietzschean without the ability to understand analogies, but don't take it out on the rest of the Right.

does this mean you cant be a drug addict in china anymore?

>he thinks his country doesn't already have something similar
Peak npc

>it's already there let's just give up
What a faggot, an npc won't even do this

what if I don't wanna own the credit card? And its not as transparent as you think

I'm not the same user you initially replied to faggot. I was just pointing out how delusion you and people from "free world" are

This but unironically. If anyone can look at the culture of America in the 50s - 2000s and not say that they were totally brainwashed then you’re probably brainwashed too

russia sounds based, I'd move there

i truly feel very sorry for ordinary asians. imagine living an average but ok life for millenias and then here come the authoritarian socialist govts, wipe out the culture and leave a soil for cyberpunk dystopia

Imagine thinking we live in a society without social credit as well, the Chinese just took one step further and made it law. Read Discipline and Punish

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In what way is life for the average Chinese worse now than at any point in the past?

lately our gobymynts :DD have been descending into constant retard schizo episode with shit like "protect runet in case of an (((attack)))" aka create an isolated "internet" fully controlled by them in case the regular internet is attacked.
good thing is that they'll just pocket the fundings and do nothing though

shit is old as fuck.

where were you when Snowden had to fly to russia?
where were you when wikileaks?

From what I heard Chinese people online say, this system might not be as distopian as we think, mostly because Chinese people sell themselves off as animals.
I have not been to China, or have Chinese friends IRL, but after having been in poor countries, some societies are just filled with idiots that are just looking for the next way to fuck over some stranger, mostly for money and sometimes out of egoistic pleasure.
If this system limits traffic accidents, makes people a little more charitable and stops them abusing their enviornment, then maybe It's a good idea.

China was always a dystopia desu

A lot of things are tolerated as long as they're unofficial or unspoken.
For example, it's natural that you're treated differently regarding your reputation, but imagine the backlash if they made it a law in some first world country.
Imagine social reputation being a definite value, a legal term. Criteria being set by the government.

>THIS SYSTEM BENIFITS ME, PLEASE DO NOT BE ALARMED
>IN CHINA WE ALWAYS HAVE GOOD FOOD TO EAT AND ARE SAFE AND HAPPY
>PLEASE COME VISIT CHINA, MAKE SURE TO NOT MENTION CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN WESTERN CHINA

It's nobody fault but yours if you engage in anti-social behavior and get a low social score, son

This

> I AM A LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN, SO I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE
> I FULLY TRUST MY AUTHORITIES TO DECIDE WHICH BEHAVIOR IS ANTI-SOCIAL
> PLEASE LIKE AND SHARE

> having a facebook account
> with your real information
i bet you fall for email scums.

cause they live in a SOCIALIST country user. just imagine not having any freedom and democracy

China has always been a land of conformity, that's why they have iqs and invented everything first but never did anything really.

Srsly whats with all the bootlicking going on on Lit today? Cucks actually think the government (in its infinite wisdom) is capable of something like this without fucking it up

Imbecile, I was mocking him (I assume you?) for saying credit score was inside one's control inasmuch as social credit is inside of one's control. Believers in either of them offer an idealized representation and like to attest to their infallibility by levying criticisms on the actions of individual actors within it.

scary shit but amazon , google, or facebook are as scary.
Is funny tho how they are writing about china on this trade war days.
>Evil china, and evil heway booh.

Your greentext is the same shit amerimutts said after the Snowden leaks

my guess is residue traffic from pol since the lobster sniffing debate.
most pol users will lick a boot as long as it's based.

From what I heard, It is sorta mandatory in America to have a Facebook account, or you won't get a job. I think that user is an American

reminds me of stalinists mental gymnastics
> HE DIDN'T MURDER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
> AND IF HE DID, THEY DESERVED IT!
> HE DIDN'T MURDER ENOUGH

having a cell phone is mandatory for a lot of things nowadays.

The mark of the beast.

the fuck. mandatory data-collecting e-pass sounds american enough though

> cell phone
more like a smart phone. i don't see why it's bad, but having a social network account in marticular seems useless. some messenger like whatsapp plus email app is sufficient for communication

>i don't see why it's bad

you are a tech cuck.

I don't have a fagbook and still get hired. the cool kids are all deleting theirs anyway. get with the times, grandpa.
2000 years later christfags are STILL afraid of science. if the cavemen had been christian they would have smothered the first fire and forbidden its teaching.

>whatsapp
it is owned by facebook though, it's not really safe. even though I've deleted social media in 2016 I still have to use whatsapp to keep up with the school work and shit

>christfags are STILL afraid of science

Never. you fell for the enemy propaganda.

in fact lots of science advances were achieved by the church. The big bang theory, and modern genetics for instance.

Tech is neutral, it could be used in good or evil ways.

i use it instead of computer/laptop. i don't play vidya or watch movies often, so special OC or big screen aren't a concern

>gubbmint does thing

1984!!!!

Can we just ban americans

> i don't see why it's bad

because it records tons of things, is possible to infer where you are by one call, your Instant messenger belong to some big company that records your chats, pictures etc. Also is getting mandatory to make bank transactions, or to buy or sell stuff. (At least in china that shit is big.)

This will literally impose zero sanctions on the degenerates supreme the petite bourgeoisie. It'll just make sure that poor people cant make unions just like every other """policy"""" move that imperialist china enacts

>no surveillance in the American category
bruh

The camps do not exist, but if they existed, they would be based.

>oh hey galileo, what'cha got there?

As if America doesn't have an oppressive credit system.

> tyrannies are based as long as they oppress people i dislike!
> no wait what d'ya mean 4channeling is now a crime nooooo i dont want to be a political prisoner bread

youtube.com/watch?v=6DuQlAorpag

Not even the same fucking sport, retard

?

Yea Forums is a part of the establishment. Do you seriously think this place is independent?
The CIA runs the whole show.

>China was always a dystopia desu
b-but the people's republic of china was cast and wrought in the immortal science of maoism, how could this be!?

the conflict with Galileo wasn't about "science facts". It was theological.

>Japan: Japan
for now, maybe...

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>retards upset about Japan not being racist assholes like they were the past 1000 years
DING DING DING.
what-s the matter????? Upset that you can't do jobs any more???? THATS WHY THE COUNTRIES WANT THEM. HARD WORK BEATS RACISM EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

>HARD WORK BEATS RACISM EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Then why don't niggers try it?

>what is credit score

>implying no 1.5x multiplier for "underserved" populations

he's right

I like this idea. Tell me more.

China has us beat because they agglomerated all these values into one: financial credit, academic credit. The crazy innovation is quantifying seemingly apolitical behaviors. This shit will be in America soon, and women will like it because it will keep them safe. Look at the new Uber silence feature. Worry is poison to the female brain, and all existing society is to banish worry. "Freedom from fear," as FDR put it.

>one place on the internet where the vast majority of dissidents and radicals shitpost and waste their revolutionary fervor
we talk about /pol/ being a containment board, but this whole site is a containment site for malcontents
it would not exist otherwise

Calm down pajeet.

>science is great, i love science
>except when it contradicts what some goatfucker 2000 years ago said to his buddy while high on hashish
NPC
P
C

DICK-IN-SON

>calls someone NPC
>says jesus was an arab who smoked weed
"Truthfully I say to you user, before pointing out the spot in your brother's eye, pull the plank out of your own."

>>science is great, i love science
>except when it says some races are smarter than others

Too busy breeding you out of existence.

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>mentioning something means you are an adherent
user, please...

Not strictly true. Moot wasn't CIA. But for sure the whole site has been subverted and co-opted.

I, personally have found a minor conspiracy and acquired evidence towards it with regards to the western intelligence community either interfering or cooperating with a major news platform. When I posted it here it was the first time I had ever become seriously obviously aware of shills. I never believed 100% before.
I also shared it with my local news media's Facebook page, the private one they use to share tips and stories. I started getting advertisements for schizophrenia treatment through Facebook.

Man, bluetooth headphones still kinda suck, who the fuck is gonna sign up for medicine that requires WiFi?

>doesn't know at the time Galileo was making his arguments the evidence was in favour of the Church
>prolly hasn't read Feyerabend
>still browses Yea Forums

White trash has always been treated like niggers in the southeastern U.S.
They're just too stupid to figure it out.

here is background information

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Pull the plank out of your ass

Sounds based. Society needs to clamp down on anti-socials.

>hard work beats racism
>wants to live without working in a luxury gay space fantasy
I read through you, chapotard

Ethnic groups evolved to sustain themselves, not others. You'll see this in due time. By then it will be too late.

Get the fuck off by board.

>Yes, feed the working p̶i̶g man happy pills so he can keep making me money.

this is the smartest post in this thread that i have read so far

Shouldn't you be washing the curry smell out of your pores Apu?

the sooner conservatives abandon the holy temple of the free market the better. i used to be a libertarian, then i started reading better books and got married.

>missing the point this badly
The difference is China is open about this. They are literally saying, our NPC-bugman population cannot function properly without supervision. And they're right, this will only improve things. The US has its own carrot and stick equivalents, but they need to obfuscate it because the population can't handle the weight of their own mediocrity, and it's far less effective as a result.

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No.

Chinese censorship of the internet (the great firewall) was thought to be impossible until China did it. There is also no precedent for the system of digital social credit they are implementing anywhere else in the world.

US and UK regimes are less keen on poisoning/shooting/disappearing US and UK journalists that pry into politicians' matters.

China is authoritarian capitalism.

soi

>I enjoy first world nations exploiting workers from third world nations

there are so many writers, in the long run one of them will predict something

In order to get a good credit score you have to A) have a credit card. and B) take out loans (car loans/mortgages/etc). It forces you to take on debt.

ethnic caste systems are based when implemented and codified by woke capitalists :)

America is a shithole.

Black rates in the USA have remained constant

Yeah but it wasn't like Orwell was the first person to come up with this. He just wrote a book so that people can read it and be like "oh no this bad" and not do anything. He was the best ally of (((them))) that's why he's required reading in so many schools. He really was a shill. Dystopian literature is always anti-action in nature compared to Utopian literature. Utopian literature presents a goal to work towards evoking a call to action, while dystopian literature presents an end to prevent, promoting resistance more than action. Positive movements always overcome resistance in the end and the positive movements in this case are those of complete social order/control. There is a reason utopian literature is shunned in schools, while dystopian literature is required reading and paraded around. They even make movies about dystopian literature because there is not threat of action from it. It leaves the readers impotent. This is why you always see people say "was Orwell right?", but never have any other goal/alternative to work towards. Only attempts to slow down the progress that has already been made.

Also utopian literature presents a more promising future, while dystopian literature serves to make the present social order look more appealing*

I don't think China's system is bad. At least they're honest about it. We're so addicted to the "autonomy" concept here in the West that we're horrified by the idea that the State might attempt to encourage right action. We just do it in an informal way, as in, someone jumps down your throat for uttering wrongthink or bans you from the financial system.

It has more to do with the fact the government is deciding what is right and wrong on a non-criminal level.

As opposed to who? In every society, moral conventions flow from authority, we just pretend they don't because muh autonomy.

Buddy, you can’t just leave us hanging. What did you find?