>When speaking of modern art, the first thing to mention is its “intimate” quality, typical of a feminine spirituality that wants nothing to do with great historic and political forces; out of morbid sensitivity (sometimes brought about by a trauma), it retreats into the world of the artist’s private subjectivity, valuing only the psychologically and aesthetically “interesting.” The works of Joyce, Proust, and Gide mark the extreme in this tendency in literature.
>In the majority of literary works, in short stories, dramas, and novels, the regime of residues persists, with its typical forms of subjective dissociation. Their constant background, rightly called the “fetishism of human relationships,” consists of the insignificant, sentimental, sexual, or social problems of insignificant individuals, reaching the extreme of dullness and banality in a certain epidemic type of American novel.
Evola on the state of literature
>The works of Joyce, Proust, and Gide mark the extreme in this tendency in literature.
he's really not wrong about that. Gide is hyper comfy though
I agree with that, actually. Too much focus on human relationships, psychology, and aesthetics in literature these days, and has been for a while. We need to deal with broader and deeper themes, metaphysical themes, spiritual problems, historical problems (a big picture view of history).
what's the source of the quote, by the way?
Ride the Tiger.
>pleb gets filtered by the wake
>women = bad
>sex = bad
>relationships = bad
incelvola
>Such is the trend of Nihilism. It occurs to no one to educate the masses to the level of true culture - that would be too much trouble, and possibly certain postulates for it are absent. On the contrary, the structure of society is to be levelled down to the standard of the populace. General equality is to reign, everything is to be equally vulgar. The same way of getting money and the same pleasures to spend it on: panem et circenses - no more is wanted, no more would be understood. Superiority, manners, taste, and every description of inward rank are crimes. Ethical, religious, national ideas, marriage for the sake of children, the family, State authority: all these are old-fashioned and reactionary.
>blablablablabla fuck anglos
I didn't know evola was so based
nice reading comprehension, retard
retard
I wish literature today was like this. It's gone the opposite way but in the wrong direction
>Hymnumber twentynine. O, the singing! Happy little girly-cums to have adolphted such an Adelphus! O, the swinginging hopops so goholden! They’ve come to chant en chor. They say their salat, the madiens’ prayer to the messiager of His Nabis, prostitating their selfs eachwise and combinedly. Fateha, fold the hands. Be it honoured, bow the head. May thine evings e’en be blossful! Even of bliss! As we so hope for ablution. For the sake of the farbung and of the scent and of the holiodrops. Amems.
>A pause. Their orison arises misquewhite as Osman glory, ebbing wasteward, leaves to the soul of light its fading silence (allah — lah lahlah lah!), a turquewashed sky.
Didn't realize Joyce was a based Muslim, masha'Allah
Dada is better right?
Proof that you should always try burning people before the books.
The deepest subjective aspect is also the most universal. This faggot never even read Kant. Glad I never read him.
retard alert
he's talking about a limited, individual and psychological subjectivity
no
Mid and Late Evola would say no.
Based
I 100% came to this conclusion on my own so now I know he must be smart
Man the more I read of this guy the less I respect and see that, as Nietzsche said, the proles weren’t rising so much as the aristocracy descending
Evola on Amrita, the nectar of the Gods. The mystical Soma of the Hindus etc.
Man the problem with your shitpost is that you kept posting it after the first time.
After you repeat a joke many times it stops being funny, and it kills it
this, it's kind of funny as a joke, but that fact that you consistently try to pass it off as a genuine quote in just about every evola thread ive seen makes you seem tryhard and extremely salty
Damn I clicked on this thread hoping it was gonna be that quote about negroid sperm
Would have given me a laugh, very disappointed Yea Forums
I kind of see it as having comedic effect as an ironic joke now.
Like you start off the thread with 'Evola on the state of literature' and then put a real-looking quote that transitions into the negroid sperm quote.
The lefty shill that posts it all the time is too much of a faggot to understand this though
i can get behind this. hell, we should invent more quotes
I'm pretty good at imitating traditionalist writing style. give me some subject matter for quotes and i'll give you some top notch fakes
The Evola fake is shitty, that's why it isn't funny after the first time. He literally just edited a Crowley quote, so it doesn't even resemble Evola.
By the way I'd like anything which insults french and sonichu-like stuff
I can make way better fakes than the sperm dude, but i need something more specific to go on then "the french", i have no idea what sonichu is. anyway im going to bed, if there are decent suggestions in the morning i might pop out a few quotes before work
Sonichu is the best epic poem since the Iliad user
before i go to bed here is a thread i made spoofing guenon so you can decide for yourself if im at all competent at imitation of their style
warosu.org
and by the way i was hardly even trying, just bored and doing it for shits and giggles
>dat esoteric interpretation of the delorean from back to the future
Ahhhh so that's why the Nazis burned his books
Cause modern man is practically a woman
>The deepest subjective aspect is also the most universal.
But It's not, faggot.
Even though I know it is a fake quote by some discord tranny, isn't he right though?
I mean I think even Freud agreed that women lust for high quality DNA seed both consciously and subconsciously, it is hardwired in their DNA, all about trying to make the offspring as high quality as possible.
White societies and predominatly white countries have always kept women on a leash through monogamy. Women hate monogamy and must be brainwashed to accept it.
Then the sexual revolution occured and women could sleep around with any men they chose, instead of some balding manlet wageslave.
Sexual Revolution 2.0 will be women embracing BBC and non-whites. You guys think it's only some cuck fantasy, but the amount of amatuer BBC and interracial porn coming from America is astounding. Blacked is accounting for less than 1% off all interracial videos, that are amatuer and not even filmed for profit. You guys have no idea how many attractive 20s something white women, not fat, not ugly, are going exclusively black. And this is only the beginning.
lol ok cuck
>evola
cringe
You have a distorted view caused by your masturbation preferences. Same as a guy I know that one day told me that porn is "just all that femdom stuff".
Turns out that was because he only ever googled femdom.
That's besides the point anyway. Porn is a satanic invention and realize people's worst instincts. Any civilization that will survive the crazy years will do so Because among other things it'll outlaw porn.
Go to bed grandpa
Faggot
Projection
And yet the actual amount of interracial couples still remains extremely low in comparison to same-race couples.
Additionally, only the most degenerate, depraved, and psychologically damaged women resort to doing pornography, and so it is really not surprise that if they are willing to engage in such things then they will also happily take BBC.
Also:
>coming from America
Yeah, there is a (((reason))) every element of decadence and depravity emanates from that hellhole.
Envious of my dubs, kiddos?
Based antianglo ubermensch
Works that cater to both ends are considered masterpieces, for example: neon genesis evangelion
>And yet the actual amount of interracial couples still remains extremely low in comparison to same-race couples.
This is true, but this is because black males on average, do not settle, like white beta providers do.
They even did a study on this: women were 5 time more likely to abort their baby with white, caucasian partner even in wedlock, than to abort a baby whose father is/was black, even out of wedlock.
>They even did a study on this: women were 5 time more likely to abort their baby with white, caucasian partner even in wedlock, than to abort a baby whose father is/was black, even out of wedlock.
Interesting. Still, considering the effects of this - and presumably the source, it only indicates that women should be enslaved if we want to have a civilization on this planet. Niggers don't provide for their families because they can't build a family. They are more like a leech on the archetypal father.
Any nation that accepts negro men in power will fall.
>They are more like a leech on the archetypal father.
--or perhaps more of a dark shadow of the archetypal father; the archetypal deadbeat.
Based Evola really is a pseud filter
Bet half the retards on this board cant even read him
>can't you see white man, your women just love niggers so much haha!!!!
Sounds like the academic equivalent of those 'you mad whyteboi' posts on /pol/
Please link this """study"""
NGE is meaningless trash though
This. Big O is the true masterpiece of philosophical anime.
dubs witnessed
You misspelled GITS 1995
That's pretty ironic, considering it's coming from the guy who painted this sort of shit
People change user
I used to be a dude weed tier hippie about 6 years ago
He loved dadaism, too.
>Evola thread turns into BBC thread
discord trannies really do need to be gased
>discord trannies
anglos*
if a post is about sex, race or money, it's an anglo behind it. Notice how half the threads on this board are cherry picked quotes about, well, sex, race or money? It's the anglo obsession.
evola literally did sex magic with a witch
Why do you browse /pol/?
he couldn't draw, but he was hipspilled
I'm glad these redpills about the emasculation of art are becoming more and more accepted here. Just a few years ago it was a different story.
On Yea Forums I still get called a pleb when I say shit like fanny and alexander is a bad movie. They'll catch up.
Wow his art is shit but at least google spit out something worthwile.
U wot? Stop reading Wikipedia pages user
Evola has one of the most ridiculous Wiki's on the internet, its completely hijacked by antifa losers
Evola didn't hate women or sex at all, on the contrary
I love Bergman but Fanny and Alexander put me to sleep. What would you recommend instead? What is the Evola of kino?
Have you watched Civilization by Kenneth Clark? That's an excellent tv series on traditional western art.
sounds based, do you know the name of the youtube documentary comparing art before/after beauty was subverted? it wasn't very academic but his comparison between traditional and contemporary pieces was a good watch
What exactly is wrong about his page?
it's just milking for out of context quotes to define the guy
There is only 2 quotes there. One being about that Tradition is "remembered" rather than learned, and another about "blood" and "race", both which the page doesn't expend a lot of time on.
The whole thing
And where are we to find these "grand themes" if not between insignificant individuals? Evola falls, as many brainlets did and do, prey to the idea that invisible forces manifest within a few chosen "great men" that then channel these forces into the mere cattle of humanity. These men are themselves nothing but emmanations of all those granular insignificances fucking, sleeping, consuming, marrying, divorcing, wanting, wishing, fearing and dying. The meaning of their perceived significance can only be found between psychologically molecular individuals leading meaningless lives. The nature of gravity cannot be understood by studying a mountain - you have to look closer to find the truth, brainlets.
This is so much barking up the wrong tree it can't be deliberate, but rather reflects a profound lack of imagination about how the imagination gives rise to and sustains high culture, and with it statecraft that is on the better side of pathological. I can't fault the writer of this passage for cynical manipulation, but he is far too cold to see even to the depths ordinary wits do.
It's fun to imagine how Rothko would react to this bitchy polemic about the degeneracy of aesthetes, cherry-picked from last century for full effect. This just won't do, unless you derive your stance from politics rather than art.
art is whatever you want it to be, so politics is art too
>reductionism
No, evola, you're wrong, modernism was a reaction to loss of the meta in every day life due to the fact the enlighenment destroyed anything abstract with facts and logic.
But ya, guys, keep engaging in this post modern abomination of greek and roman statues taken out of context you call art. It's not filling the hole of the loss of the abstract
Stop using big words and commas where they aren't needed. It doesn't make you sound smart.
No, evola, you're wrong, modernism was a reaction to loss of the meta in every day life due to the fact the enlighenment destroyed anything abstract with facts and logic.
But ya, guys, keep engaging in this post modern abomination of greek and roman statues taken out of context you call art. It's not filling the hole of the loss of the abstract
I independently came to this idea. Not that it automatically makes novels shit, but the pseuds who claim all novels have to be about human psychology or nature are incredible idiots
I can literally smell your boner, you wrote this not with any purpose of communication but in order to excite yourself, you have written your sexual preference stretched across the length of your post, either you are a right wing extremist dealing with the issue of the "illegal" (miscegenation) along with other "degeneracy" becoming the ultimate attraction to you due to it become the ultimate taboo, or you are someone with a cuck fetish, an anti-racist but again the whole interracial thing wouldn't be that stimulating to you as you would - consciously at least - deem it a normal thing, or you are weak of character or spirit and the thought of being conquered has become sexual to you, and you project this onto women instead of yourself as you might not yet see yourself in a submissive state performing the role of the female, or you have begun to dislike your own race or grown a preference to the Africans, or you are an African and enjoy the idea of reverse colonization perhaps as a sense of revenge, or just a masculine concept, or you are mixed and are currently living through depressing circumstances of the lack of belonging to either race - or you're just shitposting.
evola and spengler are primary examples of reactionary ignorance that goes as far as to denounce any and all thought that opposes their dogmatic worldviews with irony
the fact that those threads are still being created and that someone as evola can still gain friction in blossoming minds of young people is not as much scandalous as it is immensely depressing
>dogmatic worldviews
what do you even mean by this? neither evola nor spengler talk about all societies being the same
Evola and Spengler are completely different and Spengler is emphatically not a reactionary, unless everyone who believes that civilizations decline(an obvious fact) is a reactionary
>believe man is literally defined by being a prey animal
>not reactionary
He was not reacting to change and trying to turn back to the past, he was a historical determinist who thought each civilization had to be carried out to its natural conclusion.
Why even bother reading literature then if you can get all of that in the unadulterated and much more developed form of philosophy, history and theology?
Fiction writers make second rate philosophers and theologians generally. And by absorbing their ideas via fiction you're not critically engaging with them as you would be when you're evaluating arguments from a treatise or whatever.
It's not you dingus, kant never said that you absolute mong
I agree. They're also pretty irrelevant figures in contemporary philosophy and history so interesting on a sociological level that they're popular on an image board like this.
Read The Man Without Qualities
not so interesting when society is fragmenting everywhere
The presence of an author in academia is maily due to power relations that stabilish and maintain the current scientific paradigm. It means absolutely nothing to us because we are not subjected to those power dynamics.
In economics, academic relevance is highly cyclical and key authors and thinkers that contributed to the theoretical development of pure and normative economics were forgotten. You are making a value judgment based on what? Ideological affinity?
Evola is becoming more relevant today because of the new european right wing. His views were based on his studies in comparative religion and myth structures.
That being said i thing Guenon>Evola in terms of relevance to Traditionalism. "The reing of quantity and the sign of times" by Guenon is simply brillant.
Yea Forums is more of a society than [insert country name] by now.
>power relations
>reactionary ignorance
Fuck off Marxist shit heel
You haven't read either of them
lmao, don't posture if you don't know what you're talking about
>In economics, academic relevance is highly cyclical
We're not discussing economics, are we? Neither Evola nor Spengler contributed anything to their fields that were fruitful for the field as a whole or are being built upon. Spengler's theories are widely rejected for being incredibly vague and having no evidence behind them at all. Evola is simply unoriginal as a thinker and there are far more important figures in comparative religion and mythology. There are always examples of obscure thinkers being recontextualized in contemporary thought and inspiring new areas of research but those are the exception.
Their popularity is because of a political trend and that's all.
Heidegger and Wittgenstein both cite Spengler as an influence. Adorno, Toynbee, Quigley, many people respected him
I dont think you've read Spengler
is there any point reading evola without having read kant?
I tried introduction to magic and it was heavy on german idealism
Explain to me how Spengler is at all present in any of Wittgenstein or Heidegger's thought. Witt in particular just called whatever he was interested in an "influence".
philarchive.org
>Spengler’s name appears in a note from 1931 when Wittgenstein listed ten people who
had influenced him (CVp16). Originally the list included just Frege, Russell, Spengler and
Sraffa but it was extended later
No, I understand he namedropped Spengler. I'm asking you to explain how Spengler has any relevance to his thoughts at all.
Evidence? Have you read them at all? Their texts are useless to academia because academia these days is based on the existence of falsiable hyphothesis and in experimental reproducibility while their texts are deeply mystical. The importance you grant to academia here is completely unjustified specially because of the subject at hand and the marginalization of the said authors. You are making value judgements based on your own ideological affinity.
I would like to read your critique of one, just one of their significant propositions related to the flow of history and their metaphysics of history.
Who are you talking too? I am defending Evola and Spengler. Academic consensus is the result of power relations and the resulting paradigm. This is undeniable. Most of the humanities are controled by people that use historic materialism and both of these authors offer different views which in my view explains their marginal status.
How can I provide a critique when even you admit that there's no rational basis for anything they say? At this point you're reading them because they confirm your beliefs or because the "deeply mystical" aesthetic impresses you. They're not going to help you understand the world, only convince you that you already understand it.
Also, read some philosophy of science past Popper. No one cares about falsifiability as a criterion.
>Non-empirical
>Irrational
Ok, i am done with you.
Woke
I made a thread with nearly identical ideas on the extreme personalization of culture a few months ago, and was laughed out with a few replies, I guess being a Z-tier racist philosopher helps strengthen your argument. You cult-of-personality obsessed faggots ironically prove Evola right.
Don't know much about Witt, but it's all over Heidegger, particularly his work after Being and Time. I'm blanking on the name of that essay about Van Gogh's shoes, but I remember thinking that was Spengler 100%.
Resentment.
What the fuck does this even mean?
>t.Seether
hehe
Yes, pseuds are are feminine faggots and we know this instinctively. Every "intellectual" who reads and writes to play with ideas is a total sissyfag.
>Why even bother reading literature then if you can get all of that in the unadulterated and much more developed form of philosophy, history and theology?
The heuristic devices of a story help you internalize values and memorize them.
>Their constant background, rightly called the “fetishism of human relationships,” consists of the insignificant, sentimental, sexual, or social problems of insignificant individuals
Well shit maybe Evola IS worth reading despite the fascism.
>women tend to have a moral structure emphasising compassion nearly exclusively
>live in society where [GROUP] has poor outcomes at the population level
>women somehow fond of [GROUP]
It's not particularly deep and the cuck fetish has it backwards. The subset of women who do actually obsess over black men are really just competing against other women for moral status.
Just watch them talk. The women who are all about this will be ethically simplistic and highly moralizing. They're crypto racists.
>despite the fascism
Absolute retard detected
fatuma.net
They also present them from multiple angles. Offering depth greater than a plain, terse description.
Immediately tries to paint him as some vague woman-hating fascist. Links traditional conservatism and misogyny as his defining ideology in the second paragraph despite having nothing to do with him. Equates any ideology regarding gender that isn't absolutely in line with the writer's as shallow vitriolic misogyny. Equates the traditionalist school with traditional conservatism. Renders him as fascist multiple times in the first few paragraphs.
Essentially it lies and/or operates from a specific narrow worldview that does not understand or capture Evola's. A failure to engage from the beginning, let alone understand. Pretty much consistently misrepresents and misinterprets Evola throughout the whole article. It's kind of like early anthropologists writing about the religions of tribal or huntergatherer peoples, through the lens of enlightenment values, Christianity, and organised religion. Or Marxists or Feminists writing about a traditional culture or anything really. Extremely retarded and narrow filtering through their ideology, mental gymnastics to make it fit, and a refusal to empathise to gain a reasonable and nuanced understanding by looking at things from their perspective and culture. This is a problem with academia today overall. It would be fine if their ideologies were nuanced and openminded, but they're not, they're religious fanatics.
even more meaningless and gay
Dat court b finna corrupt an shiiieet. He nazis.
imagine being a pleb of the soul
>muh femenine spirituality
>muh historical forces
>muh morbid sensitivity
Horseshit
Go to archive.org and look at how the page was a few years ago. Completely different tone. Real eye-opener regarding Wikipedia and how easily it can manipulate you if you're not careful.
Just so you don't have any excuses.
web.archive.org
Hell it's even got a relatively accurate summary on his sexual philosophy, rather than just screeching about muh soggy knees.
user, I think he's just more eloquent than you.
>compared with en.wikipedia.org
Jesus yikes
pretty good article
based
Highlander
He was brought before the court under Fascism to answer allegations that he was an Anti-Fascist just as he was brought before the court in post-war Italy to answer allegations that he was a Fascist
In reality he is neither
He's certainly more sympathetic towards it than towards democracy and capitalism though
i always knew wikipedia had some backdoor politics going around, but this is just straight up ridiculous.
Fucking hell how is this even allowed
They totally removed the parts about the ACTUAL body of his work and replaced it with complete rubbish
His letters with guenon