Race realism in academia

Why don't more leftist academics believe in race realism? Perhaps some of the discrepancy is due to circumstance but surely a school of thought that prides itself on historical masterialism can tell some races are simply more capable in certain fields than others.

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I talked about this last night. Black women are cute in a different way than white women are cute. And this difference in cuteness in who they are is like the difference with races in general: they are all differences, but good differences.

Stop making it about IQ or intelligence, IQ shill. :3

Leftism is wedded to an ideological egalitarianism. Innate/genetic differences go against that and so divergent social outcomes between groups must be primarily due to social forces (according to their orthodoxy). How much more complicated does it need to be than that?

It's not just about I.Q. it's just telling when the most ivory tower professors don't call obvious things out for what it is. Or all the smoke and mirrors come out to hide the thing that Marx was entirely, objectively, wrong on.

liberals (not leftists) are anti-science

Because there's no science to support it.

Same reason they ignore neurobiology and is never brought up in politics. It would BTFO them out of existence

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>No scientist will ever receive a grant to study the biological differences between the races because it’s mean
What a world

Race? That race is nothing but a cultural thing?

Yes, if Marx really said that, he is incorrect for sure. But I hate IQ shills just as much :3

Race wont be a thing 50~ or so years from now. In Europe their already having a meshing of the races and IIRC the U.S. is already a boiling pot, not as much immigration the say the Europeans right now but their are already established mosques popping up left and right in the U.S. Even if you wanted to attempt to keep the races intact it'd all be futile in the end.

In brace the blood of all;all for one

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>pay me to pursue my racist headcanon based on a debunked 19th century understanding of genetics

they notice and catalogue differences regardless. it’s a common thing in medical research for example

To much negative history to really draw on to say if other races would have been entirely successful on their own and to conclusively say it is because of innate differences of IQ or whatever, which isnt even that accurate. I do hate relativist arguments though, and there is defintely some kind of "difference" between us but the most prominent is definitely the sociological and historical. I dont think there was any chance of europeans of just leaving the other cultures alone. I dont think this was ever going to be a real outcome no matter which society was going to become the "Explorers" anyway im rambling. Fuck niggers byw

animals of all species develop differently based upon geography, race, etc but humans somehow avoid that

>check out my tired straw man that I use to cope every time someone points out that I don't understand basic biology

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keep sobbing incels, everything you don't like about your life is all someone else's fault lmao

>brings up real point


"you sobbing incel dicklet loser racist asshole evil nazi psuedoscience retard"

notice how these people literally never have evidence that isn't bullshit anthropology

>I'm a bitter incel
have sex

Yeah you're right, the only possible difference between groups of people are physical differences like skin color and muscle distribution, it's totally insane to think that somebody's brain would evolve differently if their ancestors were from subsaharan Africa and not Scandinavia

Thats what most leftists and minorities do though, theyre not really wrong either tho

we're like 99.7% the same genes anyway which means any difference is totally irrelevant


don't mention we share 98% with gorillas or 50% with bananas though (^:

>m-minorities blame their problems on
They just want political power and who doesn't?

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!

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>YRRRRGH MY RACE SCIIIIIENCCCCCCE
have sex

Absolutely lol at everyone itt

Every study ever done on intelligence, every social measure of outcome like per capita gpd or crime, EVERY SINGLE SUBSAHARAN POPUALTION ON EARTH SUCKS

there is not even one counterexample

>triggers leftypol

heh nothing personal kid

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Seriously though, what is the science showing races are the same? /pol/ has a bunch of charts and graphs and sources, which may be entirely crap, I don't know. But there should be the same from the race is a myth side right? Something besides "you're an incel"?

>evolution doesn’t apply within human populations, moron. that’s basic biology

Lefitsm is so ideologically dogmatic about egalitarianism that it has to enforce it downwards through their elites, or ignore anything that is contrary to their equality narrative. Hence they ignore and lambaste race realism.

The right is not dogmatic about egalitarianism, in fact it openly accepts hierarchies as they naturally occur and seeks to make them thrive; thus if it turns out for example that say, IQ differs between races, then they aren't going to immediately shout down or ignore the evidence or call for policy to be implemented to give those with lower IQs an advantage. They will say 'okay, that is a hierarchy that exists, we should try to make the most of it and help each individual thrive within their own bounds'. Also, people on the right aren't inherently against movement between hierarchies so long as the movement between them is based on merit, not mandate. Nobody on the right cares if some black guy has an IQ of 190, good for him, yet the left will absolutely care if you say 'statistically speaking the average IQ for a black american is between 80 and 90'.

There's also the matter of the JQ, especially in acadaemia, but that's an entire issue in and of itself.

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Maybe the strawman will work a fourth time?

maybe calling it a strawman will work the fifth time, incel

Well said

Aww, poor little frogposter
Were you triggered?
The the Jews make the bad man hurt your feefees?

have sex.

>a lot of numbers but 0 sources

>Seriously though, what is the science showing races are the same?
there is none lol. not one study

Cry more

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Blacks are so behind because of culture but ashkenazis have a 15 point higher iq than other Europeans because uhh... culture?

>inb4 buttfrustrated mods move another topic they don't like to Yea Forums

literally no one says this

Lmao did this actually happen at the debate?

How the fuck did this get a sticky

the leftist fears the aristos because he knows he cannot compete

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So we can have a 2% difference and still be that wildly different? Pretty wild

The leftist displays fear by dunking on you in your own basketball court

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race don't real

Because the contemporary left in Anglophone countries are more "apostasized Evangelical Christians" than hardline Orthodox Marxist materialists.l, more William Wilberforce than Vladimir Lenin.

So you're saying, /pol/tards == lowest tier niggers

t. butthurt basedcialist
paleolithic man will live again and make world clean

>everything you don't like about your life is all someone else's fault lmao

this is true though

Sure white trash and niggers are about equal

Race is literally the foundation block of the universe. You can measure which atoms are white or nigger atoms

Temporary. Mixing of the races is unsustainable. We will return to natural order once people realise how fucked our current state is. And you race traitors will all die on that day.

fucking schizo cc/crim3s on literally every thread:kys

Fuck jannies

Obviously no one here likes this book for clear reasons. This is a movement against negative arbitrary characteristics like IQ :3

Not really its just the imported people larging procreating with each other. Very superficial "mixing"

This. Matter is white, antimatter is black

>I don't know how to interpret stats but I like to act like I do

yawn

Based on the posts o this thread I'm guessing none of you have a background in neurobiology education, so let's explain some things really quick.

As this user () pointed out, humans share 98% of DNA with our closest "cousins", the chimpanzees, as long as 99,9% of interindividual DNA among ourselves, being the differences mostly LTRs, STRs and SNPs.

LTRs and STRs are used as signaling mechanisms for acetylization and methilization of the promoter and silencer regions for certain genes. Such processes have been discovered a relatively short time ago, and are known as part of a bigger process known as epigenetics.

Epigenetics are the temporal intergenerational modifications based of the DNA which do not affect the structure itself, thus explaining the huge difference between humans and other close primates or mammals in terms of "intelligence" and other traits.

Such modifications have been documented to appear in as short time as a single generation and based on the circumstances or environment of the parents, this is the case in the Ob gene, related to obesity which was being over-expressed in the children and grand-children of those who suffered famine during WWII and post-WWII in the Netherlands (I don't recall the name of the study right now).

Also, IQ is a highly inaccurate and approximative measure of what we understand as intelligence and has been abandoned in the medical and neurobiological field for years, being used the Multiple Intelligences Theory as of nowadays. The brain is highly complex and we barely understand it, reducing it to a number (calculated by a test which you can train for and score significantly higher after barely 3-4 months of training, by the way) is ridiculous.

Also, the debate of Nature vs. Nurture is very intrincate in this case since studies with Dizigotic and Monozigotic twins shows that the socio-economic upbringing plays a crucial role in the devolpment of the mind and it's capabilities.

To summarize, there are vast amounts of data which contradict the theory of an innate or genetical intelligence, being the environment much more crucial. Studies showing racial disparities in IQ which ignore the environment of the sample are fundamentally flawed in it's methods and approach to the problem. There are not enough differences between the haplotypes in the human race to even be talking about "races" as we bioogically understand them (do you realize chihuahuas and german shepherds belong to the same species and could breed? Those are races, not differences in skin color or hair texture).

But as pointed out, this is not about scientific accuracy, it's about proving a set of humans "suck".

Read more. Devolop a critical thought process. Don't let your prejudices and emotions get in the way of your mind.

Everything is social construct. Even penis. Yes. Race is a bad social construct. Bad BAD evil.

imagine a thousand swarthy manlets and a hundred fair skinned blonde giants among them
who wins?

yeah it was pretty funny desu

Race doesn't exist. It's a Western concept with no scientific basis that doesn't appear in any other cultures in history. Pic related was not only able to explain how racism appeared in the Western psyche, but also that belief in a universal "white race" is a symptom of the loss of personal identity in the formless masses of the modern West. It's ironic, those that think the "white race" is being replaced are just as decadent and misguided as the people they decry for not caring about it.

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leftists are indeed tiresome with that

shoo shoo child

All categories are fundamentally arbitrary and only good insofar as they are useful. One example here is the category 'cup'. It is true that there are many different types of cups, varying in size and shape and appearance, and indeed the properties of each individual cup differ in some way, yet the category 'cup' is nevertheless employed by us because of its utility; ie, to say 'get me a cup' is to say, 'get me an object that was designed for drinking out of'.
This same principle applies to biology and, consequently, races. What can we say about races? Well, they're a mix of genetic clusters that manifest themselves phenotypically so that one can distinguish them by sight. Fair enough, but how is this useful in biology? Indeed, it appears to be the predominant view among anthropologists that it is in fact not useful(ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299519/) and that more localised forms of categorisation are required for fruitful analysis.
An example of this is sickle cell anaemia. Race realists incessantly repeat that black people carry the genetic proclivity to develop this disease when in fact it is only a specific portion of black people from a specific area in Africa that carry the gene. Race, here, might serve as a predictor (similar to how class can serve as a predictor for IQ), but will tell you nothing about whether the person actually has the gene, for which a localised and particularised analysis of genes would be required. Thus, race is not useful as a biological category.

It's amazing to watch people become tactical nihilists when race is mentioned.

Furthermore, guess which spooky poverty Santa had a theory of history and ideology which could be used to explain why racial ideology arose in settler-colonial states?

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Oh, and I want to pose a question to race realists:
Height is determined by genetics and has been found to be positively correlated with IQ. Why, then, should we not classify races by height?

NOT ONE COUNTEREXAMPLE

lmao keep crying cleetus

Ben Shapiro, Cenk Uguir, Dave Rubin, any mainstream American pundit when confronted with the discrepancy. If you have not heard this you might be British, where they would simply arrest you for knowing this