IS STARTING WITH THE GREEKS A MEME OR NOT, ANSWER ME YOU FUCKERS YOU ALWAYS SHITPOST "START WITH THE GREEKS LMAO"...

>he didn't start with the single-celled organisms
Kek, never gonna make it

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there are a lot of single-celled organisms in this very thread

You need to read Plato and Aristotles key works only, with perhaps a few secondary texts to explain them. I also highly suggest plotinus however it isn't necessary.

You don't need to read all Greek authors or even all of Plato and Aristotle.

Sure but they aren't OGs like me

>he didn't start with the stars and nebulas
With no solid foundation you might as well quit now

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Yes, it's a meme. There's no reason for you to read philosophy in such a linear fashion. Any ideas referenced by the later philosophers can be googled; you don't need to have read the primary works, a cursory understanding will suffice. If you really want to do it linearly I would suggest picking up something like Coplestones history of philosophy. You can always go back to the primary texts if you feel it would be edifying.

Pick up an anthology on the pre-Socratics or listen to the Philosophize This! Podcast on the pre-Socratics, because you should understand the differences between the monists and pluralists, the issue with sophists, who the Pythagoreans were, etc. All of that is the backdrop for Socrates, Plato (particularly Parmenides and Heraclitus), and Aristotle. Most philosophy will come back to issues dealt with in the Platonic dialogues, and if you encounter the Allegory of the Cave and the Divided Line you're going to see reflections of those in everything from Christianity and the Kabbalah to perennial themes in fiction. Heck, at least just read The Republic.

Why don't you start by reading 12 Rules of life and then read maps of meaning?

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To see how they were misinterpreted by Hegel or kant

No, it is not a meme.

Start with the Greeks is mandatory for philosophy only, not literature or poetry. Even then, you can probably get away with reading some writers within the last few centuries after gaining a cursory knowledge of the main greek thinkers, though you will have a poorer understanding than those who have read them.

If you're just a tourist who wants to do some reading, then who cares, just read what you want and skim wiki articles to shittily supplement the areas you will have no understanding of.

However, if you actually want to gain a good understanding of the real tracts of philosophical thought throughout history, you need to sack up and do some reading

Dont listen to this lazy neet idiot. Put in the work and read some books

>Didn't start with Ethiopian flint tools
How the fuck are you supposed to understand depiction if you've never been to the source? Christ

can you recomend me some good neanderthal philosophy books?
I've been studying the cave paintings of the homo erectus and it gave me some good phpilosophical insights into what live realy is

Pff how dare you even try to comprehend neanderthal philosophers without a solid background on homo erectus methodology on the essence of the tool.
But if you want to venture yourself right into them i recommend "Portrair of a caveman", an introductory title but quite complete if you ask me

No memes can be true

Look, It's not a meme. Start with the fucking greeks my God In heaven It's not hard

You're litteraly the next peterson.

Not a meme, if you study philosophy in university they start you with the greeks.
It's universal and not just a thing with this board

Where should one start? A dialectic would be preferred

It is hard

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I was saving this for /his/ but...

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It was a meme, you should have started with the Aztecs.

As others have said, starting with the Greeks is more beneficial as a primer for literature than philosophy. It’s still interesting, but less important to understand later works. Pic related is the start of my western canon reading list.

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Part two.

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Omg thats so deep user

>not important to know Plato and Aristotle for later philosophical works

leave

If you want to understand Plato a bit better I would suggest that it is important that you know Heraclites and Parmenides and preferably also the other pre-Socratic philosophers.

of course OP, start with the greeks. here's a good one:

ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS A KING CALLED MIDAS.
he was very rich.
he lived in a marble palace decorated with gold.
he had a golden throne to sit on
and a golden crown to wear on his head.

he had chests full of treasures,
golden necklaces, golden bracelets, and golden rings.
inside his palace he had trees made by clever craftsmen,
with gold and silver leaves.
the fruit that hung from the branches
was made of precious jewels.

one day, the men who worked in midas' garden
found an old, shabby man asleep among the rose bushes.
they tied his hands and feet with garlands of roses,
and carried him as their prisoner to king midas.

"who are you? and what ware you doing in my garden?"
midas asked the man.
''great king, the god of wine, dionysus
has many followers.
i am one of them.
i am old silenus.
if you will set me free
so that I can join him again,
i will tell you the most wonderful stories you have ever heard.

midas kept silenus in his palace for five days and nights,
and he listened to his stories.
after hearing these stories, midas let silenus go.
the god dionysus sent a message to midas.
"i will reward you for looking after my old friend.
tell me what your dearest wish is and i will grant it."
midas said at once, "I should like best
that everything i touch should turn into gold."

"think carefully what you are asking for," dionysus said.
but midas would not stop to think.
he wanted to be the richest man in the world.
dionysus said, "then i will grant your wish.
from now on, you have the golden touch."

midas was delighted.
he picked up a pebble from the ground,
and found that he held a nugget of gold.
"wonderful! i shall have a golden palace!
i will have a forest of golden trees!
everything around me will be made of gold!" midas said.
he went around his palace and his garden,
turning stone and wood and marble into gold.
the roses now had heavy golden blossoms and leaves,
on golden stems stiff with golden thorns.

presently, midas was hungry and thirsty.
he went into his palace and sat at his table.
he called to his servants to bring him a cup of wine.
he was delighted when he saw
that as his fingers touched the cup,
it turned into a golden goblet.

but as his tongue tasted the wine,
that, too, turned into solid gold.

"bring me food!'' he commanded.
his cooks brought their choicest dishes
and set them before him.
but when the meat and the bread reached his mouth,
they became gold, as hard as stone.
he took a peach from the golden tray,
and it lay heavy and cold in his hand.

"alas! i have been a fool!
i have asked for the golden touch,
and now, even though i am the richest man in the world,
i must die of hunger and thirst!" said midas.

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It's a meme. Start with Rene guenon.

1. Start with the Greeks
2. Go on with the Germans

lmfao that pic