Holy shit, my fucking sides

Zizek wasn't cringe, he was just kind of boring. I'm sorry if I disparaged someone you personally project your feelings onto.

>No, he didn't
Watch the debate instead of shitposting, retard.

Perhaps the real ideology is the dragons of chaos we made along the way.

>Watch the debate instead of shitposting, retard.
Watch the debate instead of shitposting, retard

>tfw you wanted to fight a Marxist edgelord but you ended up becoming buddies instead and had more in common with him than you thought
>tfw he's marrying your daughter next year

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The Guardian indeed shat on both.

"Max thought the proletariat was good and the bourgeoisie was evil"

Thats literally the basis of Communism. Who ever wrote this is retarded

I knew Max Landis was a filthy commie!

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And added nothing to the conversation doing it.

Wow, yet Peterson was clearly the biggest clown of the two nonetheless

Sigh... Wrong.

>mfw jordan peterson

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>tfw he's marrying your daughter next year
I would lose my shit if he boomer Zizek daughter-cucked Peterson.

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So the Guardian is literally fabricating false quotes? Is that not something that's frowned upon in the world of journalism?

marx doesn’t make moralistic condemnations of the bourgeoisie. it’s a materialist philosophy

No, you retard. Of course deeming your group the 'good' and the opposition 'evil' in a political conflict is a very useful political tool. But that's all it is, a political tool. In reality the poor are just as responsible for riches as the rich are for poverty.

IMAGINE caring this much about politics, while CHAD fucks STACY

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what do you call this kind of hips that women sometimes have where it's not very rounded at the hips proper, but it's still nice and curvy at the thighs and lower ass

>caring about chads and stacies
How's high school, mate?

Good and bad?
>Execute the kulaks
What do you means good and bad?
>Force teachers to work in the field
We don't deal in absolute here
>Empty your cities

This is retarded. They barely disagreed. J*urnalists are even worse than people who post NGE porn on Yea Forums. Dumb animals.

>Zizek
>On his third marriage
>Second wife was a model
>Has three children, all fathered by other men

Totally Chad

Friendship is ended with Peterson now Zizek is my best friend

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>"Marx thought the proletariat was good and the bourgeoisie was evil"
How can the guardian report this as a quote? This is the actual quote
>"You have a binary class division, proletariat/bourgeois, and you have an implicit idea that all of the good is on the side of the proletariat and all of the evil is on the side on the bourgeois, and that’s classic group identity thinking."

The next point, that Peterson claimed human hierarchies are not determined by power is even less true. What Peterson actually said was power isn't the only basis of hierarchies and that hierarchies formed through exploitation are unstable.

It then goes on to completely misrepresent Zizek by claimed he said
>“Most of the attacks on me are from left-liberals,” he began, hoping that “they would be turning in their graves even if they were still alive”
These things were said far apart and the second quote is incredibly misleading and taken completely out of context.

which quote was fabricated?

Peterson is a Koch shill

I- Wha... Fuck. Best idea to come out of the deabte so far

faggot

Materialism doesn't just preclude you from making moralistic judgements, they're just framed differently. Human beings view things in a moralistic frame, which doesn't necessarily constitute good and evil but it always is constituted by a framework of moral failings and moral hierarchy of some sort.

Dude, that article was shit you could tell just by reading it that it had no intention of in good-faith representing what happened.

He actually did.

Did you miss his absolutely brutal take down on Peterson's reading of Dostoevsky? Were you awake user?

>the press
>good-faith representing what happened.
user remain serious

A fridge-like body.

straight man

cishet bitch

im just sad that it's over because my life sucks and it was one of the only things i was looking forward to all month

none of that is marx retard

rewatch the debate, brainlet

>People take seriously the views of a Professor who raised a thot like this

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deadass not knowing the reason the cities were emptied was that they were spared from the bombing campaign which predominantly the Cambodian countryside and led to a very retribution rural politic. It's not a Marxist theory so much as one born from the urban/rural divide of Khmer Republic.

there's eurovision in some weeks, come join us at /int/ user

was this post machine translated

Only authentic post in these threads
stay safe user uw u

>human hierarchies are not determined by power

lmao what

alright listen man. I legit drove to Toronto and watched the debate in person. Zizek roasted his take of Dostoevsky, criticized his reasoning of natural hierarchies, directly questioned his claim that marx was an egalitarian and asked why he hasn't read Gotha Program, asked him to name and explain postmodern neomarxism, he argued against "setting your own house in order..." I mean Jordan Peterson didn't even criticize anything Zizek said, he misunderstood basic marxist terminology like "dictatorship of the proletariat" and accused marx of a moralized political economy which he outwardly rejects in all of his works. Did you even watch the debate?

I get that people like to suck Peterson's dick but like take the L. He was ill-prepared and got caught of guard completely by an actual good faith marxist. I expected Zizek to eat shit but he dominated not only the entire discussion but the crowd too. Peterson looked baffled for much of the discussion. It was frankly embarrassing and I don't mean that in a malicious way.

Wow, that should be great.
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>faggots mods won't make a Yea Forums sticky

No u