The most influential debate of the decade will be happening today, who's going to win?

youtube.com/watch?v=1Q46AoR80M4

The Jews.

Chances are you're just stupid.

Mencius Moldbug vs. Noam Chomsky

You clearly have a dog in this fight. Sorry you follow a hack.

They're not that different. A lot of their arguments are based on obscurantist continental nonsense. I also like Zizek despite being a right-winger.

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Ay fuck you

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Sean Goonan is the most important thinker alive.

Zizek will destroy Peterson with a good sense of humor

Can we continue dabbing on that tankie in this thread?

Sure, people will claim Peterson won anyway.
Peterson is indeed afraid of an intellectual frontier.
People are stupid and want comfort and Peterson can satisfy them.

I’m just happy to see some juicy dialectic

>starts in 7 hours
we better get a sticky for this when the stream goes live

Will twitch streams be banned?

>alive
>not of all time

Why do people watch debates expecting there to be a winner?

#
>Had there been any actual discussion in this thread yet?
You should know by now that any attempt of discussion when it comes to Peterson or Zizek will always devolve into anons thinking they're smarter than they are and nitpicking the most irrelevant details in order to devalue any other point no matter how extraneous that detail is in the bigger picture.

Fpbp, user with that wise answer

How so? The point of a debate is to find an answer or, at least, find the best compromise. These things impart those who are involved and those who are witness with wisdom. Where is the loss?

After the old one dies

She was fucking smoking all comers and im not left wing by any means, give credit where its due
If thats representitive of what zizek is going to bring down on peterson then yikes

>She
welcome back tankie, thank you for joining us once more

t. AOC

CONTINUE THE THREAD HERE:

Because it was aoc, any sitting congress person is going to wax the floor with the average pleb, if this were pol it might be different

Her entire posting boiled down to 'We totally are about to stage a revolution believe me, and when we do it will be much better than present America, and I have zero evidence for this'

The US will definitely have a "Communist" revolution, but in reality it will be more like "Anglo-Progressive revoltution, Round N", will somehow be worse than what we have now, and will devolve into racial Maoism and a purgatory state for rednecks. On the bright side, at least Anglo thought will have definitively failed so the rest of the world can move on from it

this user was literally saying she was part of a radical group posing as being moderate within the DSA and they were in the process of implementing some kind of revolution after which their Party would rule by iron fist including bugging and monitoring the entire population Orwell style

?

O I saw it was her at once, someone made a post about her and when she couldn’t resist responding it might as well have been her twitter lmao

I dont believe for a second aoc posts on the literature board of Yea Forums, it was just some girl who is part of some gay commie chapter

I mean that doesnt sound super far fetched, no?

It’s not Yea Forums is super obscure. She’s young, loves literature and there’s a popular Chapo thread up
Who knows

You're wrong, that much is obvious to anyone who has ever been and/or participated in any form of debate, but the real question is: why? Which one are you, user?

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Link?

In the thread I linked here

kys :*

>people will claim Peterson won anyway.

How did someone who constantly talks about individuals and against group identity get such a sheepish following?

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I WANT TO BELIEVE. Shitposting commie mommy milkers!

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>who's going to win?
me for not watching

>if this were pol it might be different
but /pol/ is even stupider than Yea Forums

Not for politics, Yea Forums had no idea what communism and fascism were, she was literally educating them on basic subjects instead of debating
If it were /pol/ she would’ve had a proper scrap, but she also would’ve been drowned, we’re benefitted by being a much smaller board

If it was AOC she’d be posting 3-frame Beyoncé gifs and telling us we’ve got to do an epic nae-nae on climate change by opening our border

Because individualism is the ultimate sheep ideology.

This is embarrassing, weren’t you supposed to start dilating at 2?

What fucking thread did you read, she made no points at all

also me
anyone else in the winners club?

The point of a debate is just rhetoric dick measurement. The audience has already picked sides long ago and will leave the debate claiming their hero had the longer dick. Nothing of importance in philosophy or any other intellectual endeavor has ever been furthered in a debate.

Name a single proposal of Zizek’s. Show me a video where or quote from his books that doesn’t just circle around to bourgeois liberal managerialism after the punchline

peterson 100%

Mad

His book on Lacan and Hegel

Since the moderator is one of Peterson's pals, Peterson

Incoming from

Hopefully Peterson cause I hate zizekfaggots more.

peterson: marxism is like, holy cow man! the 6 million russians in those evil evil camps! it's like, how can you expect to go on unless you arbitrary set goals for yourself? and that's freedom of thought, and that's capitalism.

zizek: ok sho, i want ferst to address some little tidbit you said inshted of your main point, becaush it linksh up with an anecdotal talking point i have ushed again and again and sho on and there ish a joke i can tell with eet ethshetra shetra but more to the point! the hishtorical ashepcts of soviet communionism do not. represhent. the ideology. or critique. of. capital. and so on.

>of the decade
More like of the century. This debate will determine the fate of Western Civilization. Will we ignore social and political problems and focus on ourselves while the world crumbles, as Peterson advises, or will we diagnose and solve our problems as Zizek would have us do.

golly gee bucko i just think that uh the current system is just fine be an individual and work under bourgeois managerialism itll be just fine clean ur room and improve yourself cuz real change is not. a path. you want. to go down.

zhee theeng ish moi problehm withsch dish idea of shanging thingsh is zhat change itshelf ish zhee shtandard idea, it ish almosht part of the conshstant shtruggle of shocietyee vish itshelf and therefore not violent enuff. eef vee want to shange thingsh vee should leave them ash they are.

chomsky is a much better scholar/philosopher/political thinker than fucking zizek. he just lacks the memes is all, he's a boring old man. i fall asleep listening to him talk. but he speaks the truth.

>smoking
>hurdur I beat up da fash n goldy faith
Come on dude I'm a lefty and that shit was just embarassing. I went back after you faggots talked it up so much I was expecting some sublime discourse and got some /pol/ tier attempts at bantz.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed Chomsky is the less sound philosopher of the two, no matter if they agree or not. Unless they're player-hating commies dumping on Chomsky for getting paid by the Man.

Eh, Chomsky's dismissal of continental philosophy is a detriment to his cause. At least Zizek has the courtesy to praise the importance of actual scientific advancement and analytical philosophy in terms of physics.

This is the sort of attitude everyone has until AOC drops in.
Everyone would do so much better until she’s there saying, “Yes?”
Given they didn’t realize it was her but my point is it’s easy to look on from the sidelines and feel like you could’ve take. out a congresswomen on politics.

Technically there is an obscure British school of sociology known as cultural Marxism, if I remember correctly

lol. fucking sociologists always have the worst interpretations of marx. And pretty much every serious thinker outside their discipline, for that matter.

Not bad

The absolute unthinking deference to authority(it's not even real auhtority it's a fucking shitposter dropping typical talking points) of you lefties is breathtaking.

You can't even argue a point, all you can do is flap around some figure who you think is allowed to say things

Daffy Duck vs Kermit the Frog

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and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on...

Around 3 more hours before it's on

What? Not at all. Even if it wasn’t her my point stands. Everyone is talking about they would have done so much better, she was taking all comers no problem. As I said elsewhere, maybe only brainlets were on, or maybe it’s easier in your imagination.

She didn't even know the definition of fascism you complete brainlet

Yeah I’m sure your esoteric Evolean specification is the only true definition, shut the fuck up. She not only defined it correctly by the books, she also added that it didn’t matter, all that mattered was how she chose to define it. So it literally doesn’t even matter to begin with how you define it.

The correct definition is the one that the Fascists defined in the fucking Doctrine of Fascism
>she also added that it didn’t matter, all that mattered was how she chose to define it.
Im aware that there are many ways in which she embarrassed herself in the thread yes

>textual definitions of fascism.
I don't know who the fuck you're talking about but this is cringe bro

yeah bro and there's no reason to read Capital if you want to know what Marxism is

>Doctrine of Fascism
Ah i see u again, do u think this is like the international consensus textbook or something? Lmao

No it's only the document written by the men who started the Fascist party

It might be helpful, but you would also need to know the actual history of working class struggle, the communist bloc, and economic theory more broadly. You cannot say, "communism is whatever marx said" without leaving out really important stuff. Jodi Dean, in The Communist Horizon, points these things out pretty well.

I see! Which is why Hitler and Mussolini’s regimes looked exactly alike, because they both knew the Doctrine of Fascism and followed it to a T.

Do you define Marxism by the Soviet Union? didnt think so

If you want to know what Marxism is I said, not communism, then you read Marx. Fascism was a specific movement made by men who literally wrote down what its worldview and objective were

What a dumbass response lmao, you’re saying fascism is only what’s laid out in your precious book, when the book is clearly irrelevant to realworld manifestations of fascism, which vary.

the british defined Hinduism solely by the Veda texts they had, which created an absolutely static and woefully inadequate understanding of society in India. Textualism is at the root misunderstanding of many things about the east vs the west.

Exactly what people say about Marxism isnt it? They say 'read capital', the USSR wasn't socialist

I see now why you've just been sucking off the other user instead of posting, you argue like a dumb sack of shit

If you're saying that, like Marxism, fascism is only an ideology, then you're immediately doing a disservice to all those who are talking about the actual history of states and the things they did. But even then, Marxism is mostly a framework of analysis, fascism is incredibly hollow on those grounds.

So you would suggest what then, asking the Hindu themselves? There are no fascists around to ask. You know who you should not ask? The sworn enemies of Fascism who hate everything about it, theyre not likely to be very objective

>this fucking chat in a livestream
Holy fuck tone down the cringe morons

Why are there so many fucking cuckservatards and other right-wing trash on Yea Forums? Thought you guys were the "big bad lefty boogieman"? Guess Yea Forums lied to me again.

How can you see not see that you’re flat wrong? Ad hominems will make you feel better but hardly help your case.
Your book says: Fascism is only this.
The world shows: Fascism is this and that and this and that.
AOC says: Fascism is this and that and this and that.
You say: But muh book
And now you’re whining incomprehensibly about Marx, shut the fuck up dude.

Fascism is hollow in your opinion, Marxism is garbage in many others'. If you want to talk about the history of Italy and how it diverged from the Fascist doctrine go ahead, but don't lie from the outset about what the movement was.

There were plenty of contemporaneous speeches and interviews from self proclaimed fascists in the 20s through 40s. But it's also about observing what they did and the historical and economic moment that defined them.

>cuckservatards
I'm going to stop you right here.

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You're actually so fucking dumb you can't grasp the comparison to Marxism re states vs doctrine. You're some puerto rican 90IQ trash from an nyc suburb arent you

Aoc didnt talk about Italy, she talked about fascism as the removal of minority races, a phenomenon which a)did not accompany the initial Fascist state, and b)frequently accompanies regimes that are not Fascist.

I mean, do you have any idea how much theory, in terms of history, economics and politics that Marxism spawned? Hitler, Evola, Mussolini, these people are not intellectual heavy weights that's just a fact. You can say Marx was wrong, but you cannot say that there isn't incredible depth to the analysis.

>You can say Marx was wrong
you could, but then you'd be wrong.

I thought that’s what they first referred to cultural studies as until they came up with a more appropriate name.
I don’t see why embracing continental philosophy would do for him.

Marxism has no predictive power and neither socialism nor communism will ever occur, it's nothing more than ground for endless pseudo-theological masturbation

Yeah lmao good luck dude, in general. I’ve even broken it down into easy kindergarten patterns and you still just can’t get it. You do you.

That's what I thought you dumb fucking spic

chomsky dismisses "theory". especially in his early writings he engages thinkers like descartes, rousseau, kant, js mill, and marx often

materialistic dialect is an extremely powerful ideology. it's not going to go away sorry bucko.

Neither will Christianity or Islam, but the Second coming isn't coming

>he says, posting Rick_Sanchez.png

>I mean, do you have any idea how much theory, in terms of history, economics and politics that Marxism spawned?
and he still couldnt get over our boi stirner

Nothing you wrote is even remotely correct.

hello i don't read book please explain what stirner did

What is the predictive power of Marxism exactly? It has none. It is religion masquerading as ideology, it's endless permutations are like Talmudic wankery

>look, mom, I'm hating popular things, are you proud of me?

christianity and islam exist to humor the materialists.

Marx's LTV has incredibly predictive power. He also correctly predicted globalization, the break down of the family, and the falling rate of profit. Sure he didn't get everything 100% correct, but there are things worth looking at.

He didn't predict it, he caused it.

Marxist economics cannot predict anything about the economy. You can find any number of 19th century thinkers who correctly predicted things that happened in the 20th century

I'll admit, the extent to which stirner made marx buttmad amuses even me

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stirner took a shit on communism and rightly so, marx was so upset that he wrote a full book calling him ugly names and didnt even get it published lmao

we're talking philosophy and not fucking augury, buds

>Sure he didn't get everything 100% correct,
i'd say he absolutely nailed around 80-90%. No one can deduce/"predict" with 100% accuracy cause people aren't wizards so it's unfair to say that unless he got 100% everything correct, his works are to be discarded.

Begin with a straightforward introduction on background on both thinkers: they’re scholarly achievements and their publications. On the stage sits Peterson, legs crossed, hands in his lap. He sports (in the clear sense) a blue suit and brown shoes. He looks wealthy. He has on a serious face. Zizek sits laidback, hands on his thighs, black shirt, jeans. He often licks his lips, twitches his nose, blinks his eyes.
MED. Gentlemen, I would like to start off simply. Would each of you please clear the air as to how you define capitalism, and then communism. Dr. Peterson, would you please start.
PET. (Looking down at the ground ahead) Geez. What a task! Sure, I’d love to. Well, yeah, you know, to keep it short, it’s not that hard, you know: capitalism, in its ideal state, creates wealth for others. I can’t speak for how well it’s used currently, or we’ll end up like the talking heads you see everywhere, you know, end-of-the-world-news-anchor-clips, that sort of deal. I can say, though (looks clearly at someone in the audience, likely the mediator), that capitalism, in any instance, is preferable to marxism or communism, and not only can we turn to cases in history, but the fundamental argument of each system to see that.
MED. Thank you. Dr. Zizek?
ZIZ: (Blinking fast, licking lips). I tink (pinches nose), Dr. Peterson has hit everyteeng on the head, you know. But! (points finger in the air) like most capeetaleests, he grossly jumps to one end of the spectrum while forgetting the goods and the bads, as some of us say, of the core ideas. Even on the flight here, for instance, I was flipping through one of my favorite books, David Foster Wallace’s Thee Pale Keeng, and I saw (sniff), a passage, from this genius, no less, that lays out an idea of Marxism, and it says something along the lines of, “In Communist society it will be possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, just as I please,” Yesh, just as I please! Now I can hear Dr. Peterson offering his rebuttal, of labor and division and inshentive, but to this I only give a nod to a near future, where all of this is possible. Should we give up?
MED. Dr. Peterson, would you like to respond?

Isn't only the theory of capital from Marx worth a shit? Are you guys really trying to discredit his whole work?

>He didn't predict it, he caused it.
lol. It was the capitalists who globalized, who's competition led to the falling rate of profit, who's profit seeking led to new markets being opened, which destroyed the family to get more and more laborers at its disposal.

It can predict sector prices and profits, and it can predict crisis

...

You should have written something along the lines of "Peterson thinks that, but the situation is quite the opposite" for Zizek.

nice

>AOC says: Fascism is this and that and this and that.
What was meant by that? It didn’t define fascism in a meaningful way. It just established “fascism” as the set ideologies which she could justify the use of violence against and claimed to have the institutional control to give that violence legitimacy. That person made no real ideological assertions, and it was more akin to Khrushchev banging his shoe on the lectern than it was stating meaningful positions.

Go back to your discord safe space, nigger

>marx and engels all cuddled up cheek to cheek co-inspecting lines of text as if that's how you craft ideas

Why is Marxist art so goddamned gay?

unironically cleaning my room while waiting for the debate to start

He means fascism is whatever he and the tee vee want it to be.

Yes, there are NPCs on Yea Forums, too.

Someone linked the stream to /pol/
My comfy experience is getting ruined by flithy nazis

topkek
youtube.com/watch?v=8YamAsbzPKA

good you dumb faggot go eat a knife

Plase stop talking about AOC. She's making Peterson and Zizek look like actual intellectuals.

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At this point I'm inclined to believe that this person
1. Truely believes that it was AOC
2. Is either very stupid, or taking the piss and trying to humiliate AOC

She specifically said she wasn’t interested in allowing fascists to identify themselves and that all that mattered was her opinion. Disagree with her or not, she’s an authoritarian, she wasn’t actually trying to debate, she was just saying, “This is what qualifies, if you qualify you’re fucked.”

cf. my post which I intended to post here

So the event itself starts 7:30 est. on stream? Gotta hit the gym and don't want to miss it.

>the theory of capital from Marx worth a shit
Who told you that rubbish?

she took on about 15 anons and made most of them look dumb. that guy isn’t far off, maybe exaggerating very slightly but not a lot at all.

and it's actually every thread since the first one, come on

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Capital from Marx is great

No argument there.

Seethe, /pol/shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=oCVck7bIbBI

>more than ten audience members wearing fedoras

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Have sex.

>made most of them look dumb.
You only made them look dumb in the eyes of a narrow group of people who'd already accepted your premised
Furthermore, you avoided responding to posts that would take things in awkward directions for your arguments

*premises

jesus christ

this you thing youre doing is weird, not sure if u literally think i was the poster or if youre ESL. she was ignoring posts that were either dumb or personal (ie do you live in NYC, or BUT DEFINE FASCISM A FIFTH TIME)

take your fat illiterate brown sack of shit you call a body and fuck off

literally happens all the time on Yea Forums. takes a true child to give a flying fuck.

>people STILL think it was really her

>people
lel

I don't care about either of these two clowns.

hm doubt

don’t (you) someone you dont want a response from genius, dont stick a penny in the electrical socket either

Why are women not represented in this "debate"?

I can’t blame people for wanting a definition when it’s clear the concept exists in that person’s mind solely to justify violence. Again that person made no meaningful assertions, only threats.

You keep saying “justifies violence”, communists don’t need fascism to justify a revolution. Their ideology is inherently and selfadmittedly violent, the only foil it needs is capitalism.

kys fag

eat shite, lobsterboi

Zizek will troll the shit out of him. Peterson's been off the ball for the past year.

Fair enough, I guess “justifies violence in a non-revolutionary setting.” Essentially the set of positions so intolerable that they must be forcibly destroyed whenever they pop up.

>Come on dude I'm a lefty
cringe

Will there be a livestream?

>especially in his earlier writing he engages with thinkers like...Kant
Where in specific?

>I'm a lefty
>uses "faggots"
Ah, you must be /leftypol/ kind of """""lefty""""".

Do people literally think there's one left-wing woman in existence? AOC isn't even far left.

This, women are too dumb for politics

>people

Who is that, L Ron Hubbard?

Did it happen already?

yeah, Zizek didnt show up.

I'm willing to pretend it's her until they realize trying to talk themselves up by pretending it's her just makes her look like an idiot

>until they realize trying to talk themselves up by pretending it's her just makes her look like an idiot
Humans don't live that long

nigga posted a rick and morty meme lol

Stream link besides the youtube one?

Too late my dick's already in ur mouth

it's an alt-right 4channel prank trying to smear her name by associating her to this place because sadly the msm thinks all Yea Forums is /pol/ and white nationalists, not accepting that progressive boards like Yea Forums exist.
Jsut ignore all the trumpretards.

>progressive boards like Yea Forums
lolwut, only if compared to /pol/, perhaps.

>communists don’t need fascism to justify a revolution
In the current political context they behave as if they do. Antifa only talks about capitalism internally. In all public statements, especially those amplified by the press, resistance to "fascism" is always the pretext.

>especially those amplified by the press, resistance
Honk honk

underrated

Antifa are radlibs.

Regardless, revolutions are historically contingent events and unless you have an actual guerrilla army rearing to go they often operate on the logic of the accomplished fact. To create justifications for the need for revolution now, in a non-revolutionary moment, is not useful.

I also don't think she's dumb enough to say things that would end her political career even in an anonymous setting. I'm sure Schumer and Pelosi would be thrilled to know that the new Lenin is withing their ranks, and the Republicans would be genuinely thrilled to hear that she described herself that way.

>debate
stop saying this, zizek literally pussied out and requested the format to be that each of them would present their thesis one at a time, then ending with a follow-up Q&A. It's not a debate.

Most influential?

>Honk honk
haha using Yea Forums memes! I get it

>Antifa are radlibs.
At the periphery, yes. The ones more involved with organization are anarcho-communists. Which is a contradiction in terms but there you go.

The rest of your statement I have no argument with. However I will say that fascism is always the reaction to communism, so communists will always need a component of "bash the fash" in their ideology.

>participating in a meme showdown on Good Friday
Isn’t that hack supposed to be a Christian?

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only symbolically

I think you misunderstand the situation. They use fascism as an excuse to justify non-revolutionary violence. It's likely done to prevent movements they find intolerable from gaining support that might come to such a movement in the midst of revolutionary instability.

fascism is a buzz word
people who want clicks say fascism
i've never heard a normal person say fascism
antifa literally just wants the click

no
yes
no
yes

>The ones more involved with organization are anarcho-communists.
only in the most nominal possible sense
>Which is a contradiction in terms but there you no it's not

No it's a formal debate, zizek leads for 30/minutes, then Peterson responds for 30 minutes, then there's 10 minutes back and forth followed by questions

explain yourself you dumb fucking piece of shit

Fascism is fun.

Who here #snackready and #hellacomfy?

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Is this legit?

ok but who got stream link?

Fascism is a cheap knockoff of Communism

I dont have to, its your fault you lack the comprehension. But im sure youll say your brother posted this.

you just state shit without supporting anything you useless fuck

Funcism.

prove it

I'm just here to see the circus.

youtube.com/watch?v=1Q46AoR80M4&feature=youtu.be
This seems to be where everyone is at least.

i got some #cheezits

It's Wallace Stevens, dude.

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can't wait for this stream to be revealed as a ruse in a few minutes

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loving the memes that are posted on the chat

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looks like a horde of discord tier bottomfeeders to me

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i hope this guy just posts a mexican cartel video or something

Should I be taking notes?

that’s what I thought. think twice next before you call someone names, it might just be me, and im out of your fucking league

People like to talk shit until they get asked to provide proofs. Good shit from a good user. Props.

There is no such thing as a right wing intellectual. It doesn't exist.
Ayn Rand was a shit novelist, Friedman was a garbage economist..and Peterson is a trash self helper.

You american mongrels will now see a proper debate, as is it and should be. Oxford STYLE

What makes the right good is that it is anti-intellectual. It's why the left has never produced a truly great poet. Plenty of good ones but never a great one.

thx preciate tha luv, some take facts, some take fags u feel me

Zizek already states he specifically wanted it to be a discussion and not a debate or whatever it is your second rate uni offers

Modern left vs right is a dichotomy from the enlightenment you stupid bitch, the greatest poets predate the entire concept.

what about authors who explicitly supported the axis in wwii like Céline, Hamsun and Mishima

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Pouring jager and coke. Getting chips.

Owned by Change your user name to his post number bitch

That doesn't make what I said any less true.

>wanted it to be a discussion
That's what a good debate is

Tell me what you think the enlightenment was.

>mfw Goethe was either left wing or not an intellectual

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>Peterson
>right-wing
There will be such confusion over bait and /rdt/ in the coming weeks. Hundreds of millions will perish.

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a oxford style debate is a discussion... youve exposed yourself as a brainlet

I got a feeling this will be comfy

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is the stream a lie? were we all baited? only time will tell.

Peterson's religion is what zizek calls atheist christianity

O God it’s this retard, you’re not welcome

oh shit the stream wasn't a hoax

guess I'm staying up

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>laughs at Yea Forums in self-help

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HERE WE GO

Nope but there's no sound ;_;

Anyone else feel like one of the guests in the Protagoras or Euthydemus dialogue? Just shamelessly watching an intellectual boxing match for amusement.
But to an extent I am genuinely interested in seeing how these two guys clash.

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God willing it will be true and uninterrupted.

God forbid anyone pay to watch a debate

how are there thousands of people on the stream?
who else is on it besides Yea Forums posters?

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Allah please give us sound

>debate
>no audio
what a ruse

we are many

backup stream pls. this is gonna get taken down any second.

Yea Forums here.

Based

Clean your room buckos

chapo niggers

unless someone has a legit stream to confirm, there might not be sound until they enter the stage (right now it's just people finding their seats etc.)

>stream is legit
HEY PETERSON, ZIZEK, I HAVE £15 RIGHT HERE FOR YOU *GRABS CROTCH*

Memerson has a reddit cult following everything he does

Hope the sound isn't gone

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The people who sell tickets to the event hall. Certainly not either of the "debaters" and definitely not anyone who wastes their time listening to this nonsense.

>mfw I'm only here for Zizek to make a Stalin joke in front of thousands of viewers

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its being shared around twitter a bit and there's a thread on /pol/

lit, int, pol, tv I know of

probably redd*t too

Peterson is a meme
Zizek is a meme
Of course a lot of people will be watching meme vs megameme

so theres no official stream? just this shit?

Žižek and Pederson are extremely well-known people

>meme vs megameme
just who is the meme and who the megameme??

THE SOUND IS ON!

you have to pay for official stream

Anybody have the stream link?

ITS LIVE.

Where the fuck can I see it?

The chat is a wild wild west

Streaming is illegal. that's why it's a video called debate club, so as not to tip off youtube

This stream gonna get shut down right

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We will all lose because both of them are hacks.

fucking classical

zizek is creme de la meme, the meme supreme. Peterson is genuinely a charlatan.

the stream was probably posted somewhere else. I bet it will go down once it starts

youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0

>Peterson is genuinely a charlatan.

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SOMEONE POST THE OTHER STREAM

Zizek pussied out

fair enough, have a zizek meme

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>zizek
I never trust a person who hates Stalin yet calls themselves a leftist

Other way around, buddy.

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6k people watching the official stream, what does this mean for america?

BASED

nice

Faggots are going to get it shut down.

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>he doesn't know who Schelling is

embarrassing

DONT SPREAD THIS

that stream is gonna die soon, too much traction. They're gonna shut it down and uplaod it to youtube later probably

el clasico

so this stream is full of Yea Forums users, as well as redditors

do you all know what that means?

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>t. cokehead

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Want official?
That'll be 20 Ziocoins, Bucko.

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this shit is gonna be boring af right? I regret paying for it already

this thing ever gonna start?

A retard. Next question.

sports streams get several hundred thousand veiwers and dont get taken down.

WE DID IT

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>capitalism vs marxism

Oh boy, judaism vs judaism. Yawn.

Have you ever seen reddit and Yea Forums in the same room?
>tfw Yea Forums and reddit users are identical

>supposedly one of the most important debates in the past 100 years
>you can't even watch the stream without paying 3000 dollars

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Go fuck yourself nigger

Who /cleanroom/ here?

kek peterson looks like a statue on the promotional image or whatever

have sex

It means press the hide chat button

We need Betas here

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>paying for it

I did, waiting for this for now

I'm missing jeopardy for this bullshit

Yeah, and Zizek looks like a creeper.

Imagine if Hegel had offical merchandise, or if locke sold tote bags with memes of his political thought on it. How can petersonites go to sleep at night knowing they worship a commodity?

piss bombas?

if you cant name this piece of music, youre uncultured swine

>i did
seriously, have sex

He really is a hack though. Releases the sams copy-pasted book twice a year.

Well do it again, illiterate.

>leafs playoff game
>this

oh god which one do i pick?

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>when Zizek talks about bringing a fleshlight on a date and the woman bringing her fuck machine
I'm gonna use that line on a date

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>you have to pay for official stream

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Is it dead whitey theme on piano if A minor?

I guess capitalism working fine

how many kinds of anal penetration ways are there

Lmao exactly what I was thinking as well

this is like einstein and tesla having a conversation

Fuck Vivaldi and fuck baroque music

hol up hombre

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>oh god which one do i pick?
If in doubt go with the memes

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aaaand it's gone!

Which one of them is our guy?

meme debate for pseudo-existential half retarded young adults who can't get their life on the rolls.

literally babby's first classical

based and bluepilled

inb4 they don't appear

Can ANYONE post a link to working stream please? One with sound preferably. Thanks!!

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POST OTHER STREAM LINKS

The leftist one.

The streamer that will not let us watch it

>muke: Hey everyone, if we're taken down by the capitalist pigs at youtube I will be immediately starting a backup stream off my own computer, please read desc on how to connect

The winner will go on to debate the current Heavy Weight Champion of the World, Foucault!
Oh wait, he died of AIDS?
Then the runner up Chomsky will do...

>he's not even watching the debate wearing his Philosopher's Shoes (tm)

lmaoing @ u plebs

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Zizek certianly more than kermit.

SLI.DO
Code: debate

if you want to ask questions
cant think of anything interesting yet

yes and yes

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youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0

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>meme debate
Why do you think we're watching it, you humorless cretin?

Only toronto niggers have faith leafs can win.

back to plebbit

When start the debate?

Neither, if you're not watching this for fence-sitting superiority and amusement you're a pleb.

Lmao

school of life is comfy tho

>One with sound preferably
Ass opposed to one WITHOUT sound? What's the point to watch a debate if there's no sound?

twitch.tv/mawmaws

Vivaldi is bougie trash, this place has an anti-Zizek bias, just look at the pictures they chose for the screen, the visionary peterson v. the black-eyed balkanfag

>school of life
Who could have foretold they would be behind such scam.

youtube.com/watch?v=1Q46AoR80M4&feature=youtu.be

capitalism vs marxism is just jews who want to slowly own all of the property but not right away vs jews who want to forcibly "collectivize" aka own all the property in a very shorter amount of time

fucking boring stream. still gonna root for zizek I guess because muh sniff

>tfw Yea Forums looks like that
YUCK

Zizek is just undeniably ugly.

back to /pol/

Nick Land

Nothing appeals to youth anymore without it being veiled in some form of entertainment. This is the real problem.

wrong stream buddy

send in your questions boys

>school of life is comfy tho

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There are people outside of Yea Forums who care about this debate too

I seriously hope you guys are exclusively watching The School of Life-porn

you're not an intellectual if not

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Youtube chat seems to be somehow worse than twitch chat

Link ?

MODS STICKY

Comfy as fuck, especially the guys voice and qt girls

there's cuter pics of him

does this thing start at 8 or 8:30? nothings happened and it's been 20 minutes

START THE DEBATE

based

youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0

is it any good?

The truth faggots

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where does the "bucko" thing come from? i've never heard him say it

post link

Hi from Paris Yea Forums

youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0 this link looks legit

>clapping to rules

Americans

IT BEGINS

Strap in niggas here we go

the REAL livestream, fuck the other cuck one

youtube.com/watch?v=WGRC5AA1wF0

who here embarrassed to be watching this?

Wait is this serious

BOO FUCK YOU FAGGOT

lolo
intellectual debate l o l o l ol o l

SHIT HERE WE GO

WTF STOP CLAPPING and whistling, such poor etiquette

Our generations Foucault v Chomsky

ITS HAPPENING

clap clap clap clap clap

>Americlaps

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Oh my god this whole thing feels like such a sham already. Like a cash grab

Zizek comfirmed manlet

i'm nervous, i hope zizek doesnt fuck up or have another stroke lol

Shame is a spook.

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this is verbal masturbation

>Towering figures

user's stream is like 30 seconds late, which one are we watching?

Imagine if there were a terrorist attack

HOST IS A RATIONALIST OH NON NO NO NOO HAHAHAHA

>Towering figures
>a lanky
>and a fatty
kek

Fasting moving thread I've ever seen on Yea Forums.

you're just now realizing this lol

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WHOO
*CLAP CLAP*
WHOOOOOOOOOO
*CLAP*

NO AUDIO ON YOUTUBE AAAAAAHH

LET'S NOT HEAR IT

Holy shit, the people in the audience are actually excited

The crowd is fucking retarded. Why are they cheering over literally everything?

oh my gooood

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CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

>americlaps
Can you people just sit down and listen?

Zizek uncomfortable from all the cheering, he knows its a circus and not his ordinary crowd

It;s getting me hype tbqhwy

zizek is so uncomfortable. fuck, i love him

D I A L E C T I C A L P O W E R

...

t. trannyfa

SHIT IM IN THE FUCKING DEBATE ALIVE, IM THE GUY WITH RED SHIRT

Zizek tired, long flight I guess.

This is so cringe and very aids.

>Žižek facepalming
lmao

JBP WON THE MOST CLAPS IN CLAPISTAN

IT'S OVER

>lubliana

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>Jordan Peter-
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Not me

the state of north americans

Is this a ufc match.

>Psychoanalysis
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Americlaps

Isn't this in canada?

>professor of psychology
>clapping for this

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when is the dick size contest?

Zizek looks like he hates this so much. I can't contain my cringe either.

It should be

Peterson has already won.

It's over.

wtf is this crowd? Clap when each is introduced, sure, but for every accomplishment? Jesus christ.

>transcend
>human flourishing

i hate this guys rhetoric, reminds me of sam harris

>radicals in the DSA

>cheering like a WWE crowd for the word "psychoanalysis"

i hate this world

there needs to be a final solution for this infantile crowd

mod pls sticky

The foundation for exploration is superior to all the works of both fags

who is this fucking moderator?

>americans

>gotta sit through 30 minutes of Peterson to get to Zizek
fuck man

his best

when ur mum comes home

this is fucking ridiculous, embarassing really. They act like it's a fucking boxing match, where you pick a side and cheer as loud as possible.

its american, theyre children

Peterson needs to tell them to stop

>it ain't me starts playing

Have you guys noticed that Peterson has Pellegrino (fancy italian water) while Zizek has ordinary water?

CAPITALISM.

>CLAPCLAPCLAP

>Bragging about ticket prices
wew

based goonan

>proud of ticket scalping
typical capitalist

It says a lot when a whiny faggot like Peterson is seen as a father figure by thousands of young men.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO about to be DEBUNKED!!!!!!!!!

>already starts the rhetoric
>praises zizek and prepares to topple him

Peterson is so transparent

>faggots on Yea Forums are upset because people are genuinely enthusiastic for knowledge and dialogue
You guys are insufferable.

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Oh fuck this is bad

With FACTS and REASON

>this debate was put together in relatively short order
He's literally trying to cushion his fall...

lol this is crap

Only nonwhites may be moderators of public debates in the West.

waiting for Peterson to admit that Zizek is one hundred percent right and concede the debate

this is fucking hilarious

>lel commie manifesto is crap
based
this

>over thirty books vs two self-help guides for teens
it's pretty sad when you put it like that

Of course I'm upset. I wanted live shitposting.

Peterson smiles in childish glee as he recounts the economic success of his atrocity exhibition

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lmao

why do people hate peterson?

Literal pamphlet is "going under the hood" for Peterson

>knowledge and dialogue
Zizek's not speaking yet.

wow pederstein is really going all out

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YOU NEED TO THINK ABUOT THE THINKING IN ORDER TO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT HOW TO THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU THINK ABOUT

we're watching, aren't we?

hes been speaking 5 mins of pure bullshit

god peterson is such a retard

hundreds of hours of lectures on youtube

Why is Peterson so intelectually dishonest?

>knowledge
>dialogue
What are two things that will not be featured in the Peterson-Zizek debate, Alex?

>Topic is happiness
>Let's do a literary critique of the Communist Manifesto
huh

sniff

Communist manifesto BTFO

the absolute state of peterson

Just butthurt neo-bolsheviks

kek

Cause they're not stupid.

Just being a contrarian in typical Yea Forums manner

Pedroson already strawmanning, kek.

Pure polemics already, im not even a marxist

THE THING THAT YOU THINK THAT APPEARS WHEN YOU THINK THAT APPEARS IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN YOU THINK

Pretty cringe from Peterson so far desu, and I'm a foaming-at-the-mouth neocameralist

people actually paid for this shit?

LOOOOL Peterson is such a retard.
Communist Manifesto is viewed by academics seriously !! -- PROBABLY!!????

Imagine wanting to be intellectually honest lmfao

THIS IS CRINGE

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>when Das Kapital was too long so you read the Communist Manifesto instead
reactionary intellectuals everyone

Yeah, this fucking hurts to watch

He's shaking, is he going to die?

Dialectics BTFO XD

History..

I wonder what zizek is thinking right now

>reducing Zizek's thought to Marx and not just Marx but a fucking agitprop pamphlet

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT JORDAN

this is what they took from us

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this

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>some people will still say peterson isn't a complete hack

Peterfag is too lazy to actually read Zizek or Das Kapital so he had to talk about The Communsist Manifesto

>peterson
>reactionary

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>twitch comments and Yea Forums are same
thats spooky

Well, not lobster-fag but reading capital in a month is impossible unless you want to end your social life.

what has peterson even said so far? Genuinly, hes sounding circular and verbose

Peterson is SHAKING being faced by the pure AURA of lord ZIZI....
Will he survive or whither??
Will he manage to debunk the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO?
So many questions to be answered, cant wait!!

>per say

what if zizek dies from listening to this before getting to speak?

did the topic change or something? Why is he talking about communism?

Fucking hell this was supposed to be about happiness, an actual interesting topic.

Thank you for the link. Listening live now.

zizek really should have opened

JP has already lost and he knows it lmao

Waiting to see if Zizek is going to lose as well or whether he's actually read up on Peterson or analyzed his following and is prepared to make his strike

Didn't even get to the main course yet and Lobster's already making me choke on his wordsalad.

STOOOOOOPP PETERSON

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Peterson is giving me anxiety, he reminds me when i bombed at uni when i had to do a short presentation on my essay which was completely made of 100% fluff.

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Argumentum ad Lobsterium

he doesn't look prepared

God imagine if Nick Land was up there debating accelerationism with Zizek instead of... this
That's the debate that should've happened

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He sounds like he's going to start crying. I feel sorry for him.

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yes he did, fucking hack

Lmao this is so embarrassing.

S A N C R O S A C T

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Is he crying

THIS

"There's a lot of mysteries left to be unsolved."

The most profound statement Petersen will make all night

>listening to fr*nchmen

we're Actually ALways AT ODDS with NAture!

Personally I hate how he deliverately deceives people with made up jargon in order to put his shitty ideas on the table, generally taking adventage of young and emotionally immature people who would be way better without him and getting actual help. It almost feels like he's a scammer who's just trying to sell his book.

Primary struggle is the struggle for LIFE in the CRUEL NATURAL WORLD.
ZIZEK BTFO

Poor Zizek :(

Alirght, what's the problem with the human nature argument?

He's intelectually boiling himself LMAO

>Waiting to see if Zizek is going to lose as well
good way of putting it. Peterson's already fucking lost his mind, but Zizek might just be crazier. We must wait and see.

Anyone keeping up with the Bingo?

is the youtube stream without echo???

>doesnt even make a point
>clap mid sentence

this is why debates should be banned from the public

oh shit that would be interesting

I think he's getting it back on track but there's no way he gets through 10 points

Nick is too chad for those two hacks

Nick Land is a brainlet furry and nobody even reads him. he's just the cyberpunk mascot for crypto racism and pretentious (deleuzian) strands of marxism

There is literally nothing wrong with what Peterson has said.

*per se

Boomer Land's brain is broken from all the polydrug cock-tails he rhizomatically connected with his nose machine

Is Peterson going to cry again??

you dont deserve to be told better sources oyu illiterate zoomer

Normies clapping to stop Peterson

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>clap

People are literally laughing listening to Peterson. Embarassing!

kek

This is high school level presentation. The guy knows next to nothing about Marx. He wouldn't pass an exam on philosophy.

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If this is our generation's Chomsky v Foucault, we're done for.

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Zizek's breaking him with his weird mind powers

this

He hasn't said pretty much anything though

He says things that imply a necessary conclusion or consequence, but he never actually says what the conclusion itself is. And when people say "well the logical conclusion to that is X, so are you saying that X?" he'll go "no, that's not what I said" and dodges all criticism.

Plus his audience is insufferable.

REEEEEE

true, but he said the right thing very poorly. This is a live debate, and that matters.

Why is peterson stumbling up on his words? He is a good orator

why dont people like peterstein? hes right about some stuff tbqh

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MARXISM IS A FLAWED ECONOMIC CRITIQUE BECAUSE IT ISN'T AN EXISTENTIAL DOCTRINE ABOUT MAN VS NATURE LMAO

why do these people go out of the way to be verbose? Its like they hate third worlders.

I can’t wait for zizek to destroy him

It hurts poor people's feelings : (

over/under on peterson making a pithy comment about marxs alcohol problems

hes tackling all of marx, too big a tax mentally

>muh kulaks
elite critique of communism

official stream numbers are dropping precipitously

Did Memerson even prepare for this?

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>when you realize that the right wingers are so anti-intellectual they will actually eat this all up because anything said by Zizek will go over their heads and the meme lobster man said communism bad so of course he's right

Zizek should just yield his time back to Peterson to further BTFO himself

no they're recording with 2 mics probably. They have one mic in the room that picks up reverb, the other one is a direct feed from jordan's mouth.

That being said this is shamefully bad. His critique of marxism is apparently breaking down 10 little lines from a pamphlet. Zizek is gonna absolutely rape him, and rightly so.

we don't value self-help here

very very bad idea

>THE KULAKS
wow

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Still, he did make a good move - he started not by explaining his position, but by criticizing what Žižek is supposed to argue for.

>bergsh wah zie

We must've been watching two different streams

Jordan Peterson's career goes down the drain tonight

This is the part of the Netflix documentary where the image goes slow mo and black and white and Trent Reznor ambient starts playing

very bad folks, not good

Being an intellectual is gay though

>wooo
>claps
>laugh

did anyone save the bingo chart from a few threads back? It's worth posting again in the new thread when it arrives

did he prepare for this debate

My God, Peterson is dying out there

Better debate idea:
TED vs TED

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*smacks lips*

every stream chat is laughing at Peterson you idiot

Ok lil' Ben, but it's past your bedtime.

>Peterson struggles for the first 5 minutes of a 30 minute monologue
>hurr BTFO

shut the fuck up

This is very painful to watch. This is like a highschooler giving a presentation he hasnt prepared for

>le humans - nature false dichotomy
BASED RETARD

so what is this debate about? I thought it was about happiness not Marxism.

hilarious whenever zizek is shown

>A PRIORI

Nobody truly knows what it means, and if you analize the concept from an historical stand point it has been used to justify the current ruling ideology of that period of time.

It's funny, because what it's actually true. Conservacucks get really annoying when you point that out.

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what has he said?

should just watch this later to skip all the cringe

nice meme

Nuke this fucking crowd already

right wingers love zizek

>the the the

he read Wikipedia

Can somebody reply to this post when Zizek starts speaking, this is pure drivel.

kys, lobster

God peterson just stop, i like you guy but this is so badly constructed it is eschatological

huge moment

I began feeling bad for Peterson.

is he going to go on for 30 mins? goddamm

He's criticizing binaries
topkek

Better debate idea

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wtf i hate lacanian hegelianism now cant believe they killed all those kulaks

Peterson has been doing okay so far

žiž should just start telling jokes from when he was serving in the yugo army.

yawn everyone already knows communist thought is offensively ignorant of the actual specifics of history or anthropology and requires deranged and consent generalizations to even function. Peterson's analysis is pointless and has been done before better.

*clapping*
>burgers

why are there so many fucking bottles of water

why

>peterson is an incel philosoph-

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>mfw you managed to catch petersteins absolute downfall on stream
cant complain

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>Zizek memeing with the moderator in the background
kek

I will lose my shit if he actually does that or tells the "cutting the balls" one. The absolute madman.

he just brought up a very good point. took him 20 minutes.

PROSTITUTES

Econ grad student here

Why are psychologists discussing which economic system is better? Please explain

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they're for sale with autographs

only if he had Yea Forums back then. He wouldn't have to send bombs to newspaper companies.

How are you posting garbage wrong opinions here and speak on the panel at the same time?

Prophet is THEFT

what was it i missed it?

based and redpilled

Does Peterson literally not know what modern communism is?

I'm right wing and I like Zizek

>20 minutes
holy fuck, wonder if he's gonna even have time to get to the main point

Jesus, I fucking hate reddit

tell us user. What is it?

MARKETING

I think Peterson had a brain fart and misunderstood the point of the debate or is chosing to take it to a retarded direction

i'm also more right than left and admire Zizek

gay as fuck, but in a good way

you didn't, if you catch my drift

good thing economic systems aren't made of people

I agree. Peterson has fucked up massively here. He should have gone for the approach that Zizek is likely to go to. Just set up an entertaining story that tangentially touches the main point a few times and make it entertaining.

wtf is he even doing with this approach? 10 points, wtf?

It's like his verbal IQ has halved

basically marxists become just as corrupt as capitalists when they get to power because of societal pressure, exactly the reason they attributed to capitalism's corruption.
basically sartre's l'engrenage

Because they're making an argument about which economic system would make people happier, which is a subject not for econometrics, but more near the field of study of philosophy, psychology or sociology.

marketing disproves labor theory of value

i got 10$ down on bakunin btfoing marx coming up at some point. no clue why but i feel it in my balls

Neither of them is a real psychologist. It's more of a philosophical debate here. Also, economy produces people that clearly are not as interesting as these two.

>he doesn't know capital is sentient

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He's not prepared

Peterson hasn't even read Bataille...

Make him stop

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO DECONSTRUCT THE CLASS BINARY

>all these commies in the comment section saying the labor theory is right

>there are unironic commies itt
cringe

That's not a good or authentic to reality point at all.

>right-wingers are all dumb
Flipping the NPC meme around doesn't suddenly make it a solid intellectual position

>you you you

> 10 points
Literal state of Petersonfags

Absolutely useless muppet. Wonder if Zizek will be just as pathetic. 7th years offer more entertaining debates than this shit.

>the quality of the posts in this thread are on the same level of youtube comments
Really nogs my jogs.

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>there are unironic peterson fans ITT
cringe

I can't...

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