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I'm trying to write my first novel but I'm messing with a lot of things. I'm not sure about the number of characters I have to involve and their names, about the protagonist and the time setting.
I also started writing a short story but I think it's pretty much crap. Basically the protagonist gets kidnapped, he has a vision about being murdered and he ends up witnessing a black magic rite or something like that, without any explanation. I think my writing and in general my mind lack of depth of thought and I'm quite negative about my writing career.

Help, all I have been doing is writing conlangs. God dammit.

>What are you writing, Yea Forums?
I've had the idea for quite some time but now I wanna capitalize on it.
I'm writing about finding love in adults as an adult, and accepting parts of yourself you may not have known about.
The main themes are gonna be that traditional roles in relationships can hurt others and lead to resentment, and that escapism is the crux of depression and lost potential.
Two characters I'm working on are named (Summer) Elaine and (Drunk) Dori, based off of the Weezer song. The two are best friends that embody the opposites of extroversion and introversion, but how both can be equally unhappy if they don't work on and take care of themselves.
I was inspired to write if because I feel that I'm finally coming out of a large depressive slump.

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im taking my first creative writing course next semester and im pretty excited. my dead grandpa always wanted me to write because of my interest in reading

there is an indefinite multitude of points along the circumference of a circle

Put as compactly as possible, it is a story about a small band of pan American socialist revolutionaries marching across the shattered continent from the peripheral fields of the great plains to and later up the east coast in search of a place where they can realize their vision.

I originally wanted to do this in 2014, by 2016, I had 50k words and didn't like how it turned out. A few months ago, I decided to start over completley because just about everything was a complete mess. I'm now 23k words in.

Is this a random fact or is it supposed to be inspirational user
Cause that kinda fucking works with the idea of what I'm writing

I'm responding to the image in that post, but I'm glad to hear that I've inadvertently inspired you.

this post is sad as fuck.

Also decided to read Rimbaud and try to make my prose more poetic. I think that's a large part of my current dissatisfaction with the draft. So: flesh it out more, make it more historically accurate and detailed, make it more poetic. I should still hold my June self-decided deadline for the final draft, and then I can have a nice celebration for my husband's birthday as a last goodbye to this city. There's a certain bar I want to go, but it's rather expensive.
>I'm writing about finding love in adults as an adult, and accepting parts of yourself you may not have known about.
>The main themes are gonna be that traditional roles in relationships can hurt others and lead to resentment, and that escapism is the crux of depression and lost potential.
Not bad.

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How would a book based solely around the reader turn out? I have a book idea that includes the reader in the experience but it's based completely around assumptions. Like the protagonist is yourself and the narrator is the enemy mostly. Sort of like half manual half fiction. Has it ever been done before? Regardless i have no idea how to make a book based on assumptions about the reader work.

Sounds kinda like a choose your own adventure book

Yeah i know but it's suppose to be psychological horror where the exorcises listed have real life effects on you, like meditation on the pineal gland and lucid dreaming. The goal is to trick /x/tards into believing nonsense to spook them.

Reminds me of a collection of horror stories called "Thirteen"
There was a story in it called The Magic that was a horror thing that gave the readers instructions and tried to spook them. Got a shitload of attention because it was banned in Italy because the prime minister was scared of ghosts or some shit

If I take every thought and memory that's bothering me and put them into a novel, will it get them out of my head or will it intensify them?

Neither but you get to express yourself and if it's interesting you have something to show for it. That's what i'm learning while writing my thoughts down anyway.

I can't deal with my problems as it is and I need a way to work through them. Anyway I'll start a diary tier project. I have the general plot and concept down already, it's similar (of course) to Catcher in the Rye. Starting with a scene that's more or less my memory of crashing my car. I'll just fill in scenes as they come to me; this will be a side project I'll work on over the next year or two.
Catcher is actually far more brilliant than most people give it credit for.

They will not cease but in the sublimatory act of creating art out of pain you will gain some solace and distance and aesthetic emotion overlaying the aestheticized content. But this is truer during each moment of crafting the thing (ruminating, drafting, tweaking, destroying, recreating, etc.) than once it is "completed" which is to say frustratedly given up on or boredly abandoned.

I see. That makes sense, you're probably right. That's why just about every author ends up killing himself. Thank you.

This is not to say, though, that one cannot move from one pet project to another, sublimating different sufferings or perhaps repeatedly sublimating the same suffering via different angles, different facets of it...and this also is not to say that such sentimentalist petty intellectual projects necessarily need to solely focus on dark things, bleak things, lugubrious things. There should always be triumphant moments, too. Love, beauty, etc. What I am especially attempting to articulate is that the satisfaction is more in the production than in the product; even if an artist (most likely passingly, momentarily) feels that a specific piece is perfect, it is only one gem in the crown of their eternally incomplete oeuvre. Kafka asked upon his death that his writing be destroyed.

Usually I write nicer things, I don't only diary post. That's why I'm going to relegate this feels-dump as a side project while I continue with my main work. But it seems you're correct, I won't find salvation in it and my anguish will not cease. As soon as I finish, everything will slam back into my consciousness, and nothing will ever be able to hold it back more than temporarily. I was looking for a path out but there isn't one.

Some solid weltschmerz there. Try out Schopenhauer.

Something about the internet and the end of the world

A series of video games called the Liber series

>inb4 >/sffg/
A high fantasy series broken up into multiple trilogies, standalone anthology books, and short stories.
I've only started getting into the second draft of Book I, but I've got plenty of story ideas on the back burner and some lone chapters for the other books written already.

A high school romance about a snarky honor student tutoring the superstar basketball player. She has always had a bit of a crush on him and he gradually grows to like her back.

Like a serial experiment lain sort of deal?

Have any one of you done writing collabs before?
How was it?
Good idea? bad idea?
I'm writing a story with someone else that also edits my stuff, our chapters will go in intervals in with different formats or narrative style

More like Evangelion

If you have a best girl asuka equivalent then sign me up I’d buy it.

I'll add it to my backlog.

Just started writing. I want desperately to write literary fiction, but my prose and characters are shit so I am just writing sci-fi as practice and for fun. How to become better, bros? I love reading both sci-fi and literary fiction but i feel like literary shit just requires a higher caliber of writing that I dont have.

I'm writing a story that keep fighting me.

The story in and of itself is pretty simple: a boy finds himself in a world where reality has broken and a handfull of human survivors have clustered together in the middle of a surreal city where there's barely any food, magic is real and talking animals are waging war on each other. The boy, who is a bitter, insecure amputee, soon finds that while he's useless at hunting and magic, his encyclopedic knowledge of food could be the key to finding a stable food source. However, despite some early successes it quickly becomes clear that the food situation is unsalvageable and so with a few friends he sets on a quest to find a human settlement under the earth.

The story suffers from a number of factors, but a few big ones stand out
>the entire middle of the adventure is completely unplanned
>despite the primary inhabitants of the setting being talking animals, there are almost no animal characters
>The setting is a mystery setting but there's almost no mystery
>the setting is a battlefield but there's almost no war

typing it out like this though, I am realizing that I just need to find a way to fill the first problem with the solution to all the others. I just have to figure out how to do that

Trying to trust my instincts on writing romantic scenes instead of getting self conscious and thinking it's too sappy. It's more wholesome and cutesy, not erotic. If I like it, the agent should like it, right? Feels like I'm going crazy. But you can't have good despair without previous happiness.

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Hey, thanks for the encouragement by the way. Instead of doing nothing again today I wrote down two more pages. Not much, but the material I wrote today opens up the plot in unexpected way and adds more depth to the story, I feel. So I'm pretty happy with today's progress, nevertheless.

Would you guys be willing to read a list of nation names I have been working on for my setting? I have been doing language development for it to try and give them a cultural coherency.

Your first 1 to 2 million words will suck no matter what. Just keep at it.

Go ahead.
On that topic, why is coming up with character names so hard? I want them to seem meaningful or fitting...

How would you write a post apocalyptic novel without revisiting every trope that every post apocalyptic book has? I really have a setting down and a simple outline but I don’t want it to be cliche, I’m so fucking tired of “people are the real monsters” plot line I want to make my own.

>Hey, thanks for the encouragement by the way.

No problem. I spent years nursing a draft, hovering around 10k words. Then I just decided to write every day, even if it was only 100 words. Over time, it became a habit and now I'm a published author.

Post your premise and rough outline.
Cant help you without more info.

>I am realizing that I just need to find a way to fill the first problem with the solution to all the others. I just have to figure out how to do that

It sounds interesting. Just set goals for some characters, and then create obstacles for those goals. The obstacles and goals should relate to your setting and your themes.

>On that topic, why is coming up with character names so hard? I want them to seem meaningful or fitting...

I don't think it even matters that much. Just don't pick something that's obnoxious and unpronounceable. And never Fred, because it rhymes with said and makes all prose sound silly.

>I’m so fucking tired of “people are the real monsters”

Pick another theme. Make it a positive story about humans overcoming the apocalypse. Or just have a completely separate theme. Focus on developing characters within your setting first then a story should evolve naturally, through the relationships between characters and the problems they face. Not everything needs to be about the fate of the world.

>so fed up with myself I opened a new word document to type a complete revision from scratch
I can already see I won't be getting much sleep for the next few weeks.
>now I'm a published author
How hard was it to get an agent to give you the time of day?

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I am also interested in an answer to this question

The themes are isolation and insanity mostly, everyone is basically fucked on acid 24/7 due to government shenanigans and i want each chapter to be about different characters pre, mid, and post collapse. I want each one to two chapters to be individual stories about each survivor and what they have to deal with and how they deal with it. For example i want a chapter about a mechanical engineer coming up with crazy contraptions to get through his problems and such, this isn't a save the day story. Everyone is doomed from the start i want to make that clear in the first chapter. I'm not going for anything deep i want it to be garbage fiction that i enjoy writing that maybe other people would enjoy. It's a project i've had in my head for awhile but i hate cliches and want to make it my own.

So then dont worry about it.

Sounds like you have a good plan. You need to start actually writing it if you want to make some real progress though.

What's the consensus on writing a book in present tense? Would it be allowable, or is it a major literary faux-pas?

As few character as possible while still maintaining the basic skeleton for the plot / story to move forward and the themes of your story to make sense.
I learned this the hard way, on my own "skin" and now I'm in the process of aggressively editing out a good percentage of my characters from my own book. Safe to say 70% of them are gone / replaced with exiting, more important characters.

Is 5 main character (told from each of their perspectives, changing between as needed) too many?

It can be done and it has been done, but it takes extreme skill.

>I hate cliches
>i want a chapter about a mechanical engineer coming up with crazy contraptions to get through his problems and such

I also wanted to have a scientist who discovers a warp hole and explains how it works by folding two pieces of paper together and shoving a pencil through.

Has anyone tried "publishing" their writing through a newsletter? Something like substack (substack.com/ disclaimer: I don't know if this is a meme company or not) seems like an interesting distribution method. Don't know if it would actually work though, and I want to wait until I have more a backlog of pieces completed before I try myself.

iirc Un homme qui dort is written in the present tense (and the second person) and is pretty good, that style works well for the subject matter

Piggy backing on this. Is there any reason not to self publish and start a patreon? It seems like that's where all the creative people go to rake in cash, especially if your a furry fetish artist.

Rewrote most of the first chapter. It's still shitty but slightly less shitty now. Already getting drunk. I wish I had enough money to stay drunk every moment of my life.

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I biked a few miles today on a highway just to get to a gamestop to trade in a shit game for $8 to buy cigarettes and a single 22 ounce of low quality beer. We're not gonna make it bro.

Too many things.

1.) The main thing I want to finish by the end of this year is the third book in my "Trevor's Talent" series, the story of a young thief in the late 18th century who discovers he has magic and joins the Order of the Shard, a magical law enforcement group.

2.) After that, I've already got the first few chapters of "Personage" a work set in the future when androids and clones are indistinguishable from human beings. A young man wakes up in an alley somewhere in New York City with no memory of who he is, including whether he's a clone or a human. The work delves deep into what should and shouldn't have the moral value of a human, as well as other facets of society.

3.) The Tyrant of Mars- a movie script about a young man named Lance who lives on Mars in the far future. The planet has been taken over by the communist party, and the other parties have banded together in a resistance movement that Lance is a part of. Lance is a bit of a sociopath, and he's pretty much only motivated by a desire for revenge for his father's death. However, one day he's forced to take the place of a spy on a vital mission, placing him at the center of the Communist Party, at the right hand of the dictator- Weston Numion. The two start to become friends, and Lance begins to see that things aren't so black and white like he thought. (The film is still scathingly anti-commie though.)

4.) The War-Game: another sci-fi-fi, set in the far future. Each high school has a Student Soldier Corp, (the future version of the JROTC) which form small armies to compete with one another in a massive inter-scholastic tournament. It's basically a cross between a sports-themed slice of life story, and science fiction.

My brother. Nothing better than walking 7 miles to save $3 on bus fare.
Hard liquor is a better value than beer, you know. Like 20-25 drinks for $10. Show me a beer that's 50 cents a bottle. Currently having the last dregs of bottom shelf gin mixed with a few ounces of iced tea I saved--it's a poor man's long island. breddy gud actually. There's a crane outside my house that is beautiful, crisp red-orange against a blue sky. I bet it's tall enough for the fall to kill me. I've been watching it every day for a month now.
But actually I am working on the draft, I really am. Maybe if I can miraculously sell the manuscript I can pay off a small fraction of my debt. I wish I could live in some seaside cottage and just spend 3 years writing with no financial worries, by some patron's good grace, and then jump off a cliff after releasing them online somewhere. Any richfriends want to sponsor me? I'll let you sexually molest me, what do I care. Ravage me.

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I want to write fart smut but I don't know how to actually write farts happening. Any advice?

Try farting a few times and pay attention.

I don't like liquor, i get drunk FAST because i only weigh like 120lbs and beer tastes better and gives a mellow buzz that i enjoy. I usually wander into the forests around the urbanization and sit there and drink a 40 and write on my phone, i don't even save the shit i just enjoy doing it and getting better. Currently have some ambien and it's almost as good writing while under that influence. As long as we write at least a few pages a day maybe something will happen. Cigarettes are my true vice, i can only write while i have cigs in my pocket, i don't know why. As long as we stay away from a nice, cooled vodka and bleach cocktail we'll be fine. Starving artist meme is real but i refuse to get a real 9-5 and give up on my dream of being a novelist.

I only weigh about 115 so trust me, I can get smashed on one or two just the same. Thank god for it--saves so much money. I really am editing though. Second draft is turning out much better. You sit there and ruminate on what you wanted the scene to be and you optimize everything and try to make it more beautiful and fleshed out and put more emotion into it all.
I can't imagine writing on a phone. the screen frustrates me beyond anything. I've been writing thoughts down in a notebook for a few weeks now, though. I've used some of the material in my writing. Usually I can only deal with type though.
I'm clearly incapable of holding an honest job. I've been considering the merits of selling myself to some rich old guy in marriage. The only man I love is already dead more than 40 years before I was born so it doesn't matter at this point. But idk, racking up more debt doesn't make a difference, it's not real anyway. I have so many bills I'm simply not paying and I don't see what is going to realistically happen about it. Most writers always struggled for money, so I'm in good company at least.
I'm partial to either hanging or jumping. Jumping into a sea is probably the most romantic. I'm not going to live long enough to see retirement so to hell with the whole farce of becoming an honest citizen. But I don't think anyone who hasn't suffered can write worth a damn, so whatever, I'll pick this kind of life every time.

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Man let me tell you not to downplay your suffering but I’m heavy bipolar or schizo, docs can’t figure out what’s wrong with me. I hallucinate daily and it’s horrible, can’t hold a job and the bottles my only friend. I’ve been forged by hellfire though, I’ve practiced and practiced I swear to fucking god I’m gonna write a shitty book fueled by pure spite. As I’m typing this I’m going to go look for quarters so I can try those tiny bottles of whiskey, good luck bro.

can I get a cringe-check on two characters? They're talking animals so I know it's kind of hard for them not to be cringeworthy but at the very least is the cringe minimal

>a mute blue firefly who communicates entirely through morse code. None of the main characters can understand morse code so she struggles to communicate with them, but she's probably the most reliable of the group
>a large, shaggy rat who was exiled by his people for heresy and now lives among strays as a small, shaggy dog. He's bitter and unpleasant, but he's loyal

Do you guys got any tips for creating character personalities? I want my main character to be unique but all I seem to be doing is copying from other characters.

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I have a similar issue. I made a character I like too much because it's basically a better version of me.

Also, what are some ways to get addicted to finishing instead of the thrill of fresh ideas? I've started writing a journal entry every morning for the last 2 months just to get the habit of daily writing established. I don't know; I guess I'm getting older and getting worried because I don't have much to show, but I know this is what I'm supposed to do.

>a shitty book fueled by pure spite
Literally notes from underground. i never knew the beauty in the concept of spite until I read old dosters. It's truly wonderful. "My liver is diseased...I know I'm harming no one but myself but still I refuse to go to the doctor." Something like that. What a wonderful man. I felt feels that day I had never known existed.
Man, whiskey would be nice. I love being drunk. Keep writing. None of us will make it but that's okay anyway.
Respect the character as a person. They're not a list of labels or some reddit tier char creation chart...they're a person. Every single character gets their own development and the respect due to a human being.
Even if you disagree with someone, you should be able to form a solid, persuasive argument from their perspective, right? Same thing with characters. Even if they don't resemble you you should still be able to put yourself in their shoes and feel their emotions, think with their mind, see the memories in their heart. Like, my current antagonist, I disagree with his views but everything he says is still feasibly correct and he's a good person trying his best. His point of view is perfectly valid. It's just in opposition to the protagonist's desires and actions; they even still like each other and want to help each other, but their mutual positions are irreconcilable.
Probably very drunk right now, if any of that made sense.
I vividly remember every single character I've ever written. none of them are duplicates or archetypes, they're all fully voiced and developed human beings.

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An essay about the representation of Germans in "The Pianist" (2002, dir. Roman Polanski). It's uninspired, but technically solid, just doing it for a uni class.

I love horror so I'm writing a collection of horror stories that will end up being the standard 80k word count. Currently at 20k and then I'm going to send those query letters to some agents to get published. Wish me luck anons, we're all make it!

>What are you writing, Yea Forums?

Right now? I'm outlining some short horror stories to write. I have an artist friend who does some pretty good ink washes wanting to do a sort of "Scary Stories To Tell In the Dark" illustration to each short story. Figure I'd center them around some strange shit that happens here in the midwest. See how it goes.

blog.writingacademy.com/developing-memorable-characters/
suspense.net/profile.htm

Remember that the most important thing for every main character is that they have a SINGLE fatal flaw. Something they have to overcome in order to "win". Examples of flaws are:

lack of self-confidence
lack of self-worth / low self-esteem
insecurity
naivety
inability to put the past behind
inability to face the past
inability to trust others
inability to make a commitment
stubbornness
rashness
prejudice
selfishness
arrogance / smugness / hubris / pride
greed
envy

Don't give them more than ONE of these. They can have more than one flaw, but they should have only one flaw that is relevant to the story. Focus on that and build their character out from it.

Don't write tropes. Write people.

Nigger, did I say to make your character a trope?

That's what you do, when you start thinking under such rules.

Then you literally don't know shit about writing, and I guarantee all of your characters are going to be a mess of inconsistencies that have nothing related to the story.

Starting with your main character's flaw is literally Writing 101. It's the very first thing you learn to do. You have to start with that, because your character's flaw is what is going to inform the story. But you don't stop there, which is obviously the extent of thought that you've put into it. You build on the flaw to develop a backstory. Say your character is greedy. Why is she greedy? Maybe she was the youngest in a foster family and never had anything of her own, so she started to covet things that other people had. How did this make the people around her react to her, and how did she react in turn? Did she start to use people, and become frustrated when they ultimately rejected her? Did it lead to a more isolated life, where she can't actually hold on to anything truly valuable to her? These are the things that develop her character. Once you start to understand her life story, her character starts to take shape in your mind, and it lets you know what kind of difficulties she'll have to face in order to overcome her flaw, which is the ultimate goal of 99.9% of fiction. But it starts with square one. If you try to retrofit a flaw later, your character is going to start falling apart like newspaper in the rain, because you're going to have been pulling them in a dozen different directions without a clear idea of what to actually do with them.

It doesn't avail you shit if you can write a compelling character but that character has zero relation to the story. At least not for a main character. If you can't do what I just outlined without falling back on tropes, you're just a shitty writer.

Work trivializes the human. This idiotic loyalty to work is a curse and brings nothing but irrelevant accomplishments. Do what I did. Find a job that requires the minimum of effort and thought so that you can focus on your craft while earning just enough to live. I'm blessed that I can read and write at work and that the schedule has few hours so that I can get home asap.

Nothing yet, but I'll finally start a journal when the stores open again after easter. I'm going through a breakup among other personal crises and I heard that writing your feelings down can help a lot. Another motivation is that I've always had entire monologues or interviews in my head, so I might just put it all down on paper to reflect on them. It's like I'd have a gf anymore who might secretly read it.

I write a thematically driven loose fantasy story. I said thematically driven because the entirety of the book focuses on the topic of control and how various parties struggle and use whatever means to gain control while not giving any to their opposition. Loose fantasy because the world building takes a backseat and the world's rules are not as important as the themes presented and the characters acting. That being said, it's not a fully fleshed out fantasy world, but it's more about what's actually happening in this setting. Still, I try to have as many original ideas in it as I can.
The main character is a product of eugenics and his/her/its (it's an asexual sterile creature only vaguely resembling a human) purpose is solely to allow the continuation of a certain industry that plays a vital role in the story and world as a whole. The main conflict is about how the protagonist, and indeed most of the people living in this world, really have no control or agency over their own lives and even the slightest sliver of control is ultimately serving other purposes, as revealed in the end.
It's really a philosophical work more than it is a fantasy story although it's taken place in a wholly fantasy setting.

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What about characters who succumb to their flaws like Ahab? I get what you're saying but as i write i learn more about the character i'm writing and their vices and flaws and to nail down a singular thing to tunnel vision on seems false, humans are complex. Then again i'm shit at writing so who knows.

>overcoming your flaws
lmao

Early 2017...
A fifteen year old Muslim girl named Sara lives in a province of Syria that’s controlled by ISIS. Everyday she toils to care for her bedridden, dementia/cancer laden grandfather. She never knew her father and grandpa tells her that her mother died sometime in 2004 in Iraq shortly after Sara was born. She’s forced to wear a full burqa when she goes out and after she’s almost raped by a some inbred fuckstick, she uses the Silk Road/dark web/black market to purchase a collapsible .308 with a suppressor and 100 rounds of subsonic ammo. This gun here m.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBMG_F-5EE
The. Proceeds to wage an “enemy at the gates” style sniper war against the caliphate (after studying YouTube videos on long distance shooting/sniping) while also caring for her delirious grandfather who has fits of PTSD about his time as a sniper fighting against the soviets during the 80’s. His rants also reveal the secret that Sara’s mother was the secret identity of the elusive and deadly “JUBA” sniper
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper)
that killed numerous US service members during the Iraq war. By being crafty and learning to hide her weaponry under her clothes, Sara plays a deadly game of cat and mouse with ISIS as she hunts for blinds and evades patrols.
Tentatively titled “the sixth pillar”
Writing chapter two as we speak. It’ll should be done by Halloween.

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They are not inherently cirngey concepts. As long as it's executed right it should be fine.

Would actually read it.

How many agents did you solicit?

That sounds really interesting, Gaskun. I hope you'll keep us updated about it going forward.

I commend you for getting your fist work out of your head and into the world, though. I seem to just aimlessly scribble. As time goes on, I at least notice improvements.

Your roommates are too loud at the wrong times. The hi-hats rattle at absurd hours. You’re too busy. Your shoulders are not pulled back; instead hunched and scrunched like single use plastic bags. Things are just overwhelming, you’ve figured out. You managed to drop to only 12 units this semester, but still you find yourself totally incapacitated by the sheer quantity of things you feel obligated to do.

And then, the tasks are all completed. Waves of nostalgia immerse you at the slightest trigger. You start calling things your last. “Last night class ever,” “last hungover morning class ever,” “last group project ever,” “last uncomfortable pull-your-phone-out-of-pocket-to-avoid-eye-contact.” You’ll never see that one shaggy brown-haired boy you kissed that one time when you drank too much again, even though you hardly even drink like that. It totally was not even your scene, either. Those functions are too loud and cliché and just too banal, for you. But you’ll never see him again. The faux-humble, fake embarrassed, and poorly concealed brag about that time when he touched you that way, will totally lose its frame of reference. The framework, which brought the story intelligibility, is suddenly just gone.

Songs that you haven’t liked in years sound new. The snares are tinged with something you didn’t think you would ever feel, not at this age. You’re not even that emotional or ridiculous. “So much water on my neck I need a boat or sumn.” You don’t even own any diamonds, nor do you want to. You think rap music is totally problematic and needs serious revision. But the lyric still seems so completely and legitimately beautifully meaningful.

Pieces of the structure remain, here and there. Not all of your friends are going home, or have prestigious white collared jobs lined up. Some of their futures are just as muddy and obscure as yours. But the framework dies either way. The community dissolves with each passing minute, like sugar stirred in tea. These parts of you, the stories, the things you pretend to be embarrassed about but really give you a place and meaning, lose their effability without the scaffolding that supported their creation.

You’ll walk across the stage with your pals. The gown you wear will flow in the wind coming in off the coast. The hat won’t fit you the way it seems a hat should. You’ll scream when your best friend crosses the stage after you. You’ll smile and take pictures with your parents and friends and cousins. You should. It’s rare that death and rebirth are so clearly demarcated from the rest of quotidian life. The nostalgia is just an unavoidable part of the dissolution of your personal intelligibility.

Plz give me some feedback!

not bad. the few times you use words like "totally" (I presume to mimic the speech patterns of your subject) are kind of awkward though, they don't fit with the rest of the prose. if you were trying for a contrast I don't think it works because the teen-girl-speak occurs far less often than "literary" speak.

is this an excerpt?

Doing revisions. Zooming around google streetview to add descriptions; made a cute new scene where they go on a walk to the pond. It won't be exact since I think the japs burned the palace complex down in the imjin war and it was rebuilt after, but good enough for me.

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>complete revision of weeks worth of work
yeeeeep. fucking hate that

are their personal philosophies very different, or is it just so you can cover multiple different places simultaneously? if the latter then yeah, it may be too many

If you think that what you wrote is shit, then why do you publish it? Do you have no pride and standards?

>Indefenite
I think the word you were looking for is infinite.

wrote this just now, drunk as fuck. opinions?

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fanfics of the beatles

Imagine /k/'s or /pol/'s reaction to this.
>Protip, it's priceless.
My reaction to the premise is apathetic at best.
It seems as though you want your main character to be both incredibly deadly, and yet vulnerable given her age. My advice, PICK ONE.
It's just going to ruin the suspension of disbelief.

>'tis
i'm sorry fren...

Good. Keep at it. Try writing sober, and your grammar might improve greatly.

They cover different philosophies, lifestyles, and walks of life.

who is the author?

Age is only a factor because of the connection to JUBA and the Soviet/afghan grandad. Generational sniping. I could give two dicks about “YA gungirl does things”

I'm writing a 40,000+ word novel.

But it's fanfiction

But where is the drive? I mean if you want a super-hero dead-shot archetype then go ahead. But if you want a regular Youtube "trained" 15 year old girl to drive out ISIS from Sand-Ville Syria, then expecting the reader to even barely believe it? You're out of luck if the latter is the case.

Ah, yes, because it's impossible to have more than one major flaw. If you're REALLY a good author, you can write a compelling story with a character that has two flaws, and perhaps even zero "fatal" flaws. Recommend whatever you want to people. but if you're going to try and crush down everything out of the norm, literature will never go forward.

That sounds pretentious, but what you're doing now is essentially simplifying the art of character flaws way too much.

Cease. I don't care if it's the best quality fan fiction the universe will ever see, you have to make up your own shit.

Unless you're writing it merely for the experience. As a beginner, fanfiction can be good for development. Just make sure you grow out of it as soon as possible. Also minimize cliche shit.

>Writes 300 pages of Matthew and Mary Sue regardless.

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>What are you writing, Yea Forums?

Trash. I am writing trash.

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Wow such depth in your description.
I almost wish you had been more concise, that was too dense to fully appreciate.

good luck with the word counts, anons!

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>type content in word or docs
>use their word count function
>copy paste into Yea Forums post

Oh wow how difficult user

[Spoiler] it contains none of the original characters, takes place in a different time period, and serves as satire. Also, the format is different time my normal prose so yes it's also experience [/spoiler]

We're you just now horse kicked? What horrible symptoms you're presenting!

I don’t expect her to win or drive them out, but it’s a counter insurgency waged by an “every man” who’s been backed into a corner with little to lose. It’s more fun to write about someone having good intentions and having their plan go sideways. I guess we’ll see

any other charts? someone should make some if there aren't any