Am I crazy to think the goal of humanity is to use genetic and cybernetic engineering to transcend into a perfect state...

Where do you think the 'overman' comes from?

You should aim for your own standard of perfection, realizing it will probably fail and collapse into dust.

Find eugenic circles and join them

how is the Yea Forums related

I don't know what other boards are good for philosophical questions

Not with billions of people living in poverty.

>Muh compassion
>Muh Altruism

Self determined evolution. No, that’s not crazy at all.

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Any good books on the topic?

Genesis, the part about Babel

What do you think it means?

If humanity had no intrinsic worth, it wouldn't be able to transcend itself. Did you read TSZ? Do you remember the scene at the end, where he gets his "disciples" together in the cave?

also meat that cooks itself would be amazing

I doubt you can get perfect. But otherwise that's an ok short-term goal.

Yes, that's pure DeVo. The beginning of humanity was it's end.

People like you are worse than crazy, OP: you're fucking catatonically stupid and you don't even realize it. Motherfuckers like you are going to inevitably lead to the entirety of the human race getting raped, tortured, and devoured by AI we created ourselves for like 100,000 years before becoming integrated into them as a passive component of their reproductive cycle.

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>goal
Set by whom?

Right now the goal is to extract oil and make an elite class of any-heads very very rich. This humanity as diuretic mode will either kill us off or we switch gears. But in this mess we can already see the inevitable urge of humanity. We want out of the cradle. And this puny flesh can only go so far. So IF we survive, the goal will be set by us.
Plenty will opt out of course

Aren’t we AI already?
Nice shot. Is that your balcony/view?

Right now the goal is to extract oil and make an elite class of baby-heads very very rich. This humanity-as-diuretic mode will either kill us off or we switch gears. But in this mess we can already see the inevitable urge of humanity. We want out of the cradle. And this puny pink flesh can only go so far. So IF we survive, the goal has already been set by us.
Plenty will opt out of course

Aren’t we AI already?
Nice shot. Is that your balcony/view?

>perfect state of being
no such thing in an objective sense, so if you think this has to be the goal maybe
we need to engineer ourselves to become more than what we are today; anyone would come to this conclusion through focusing on and then looking past personal/genetic fears and inadequacies.

You didn't answer the question

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Trips.
Be Christian, find a good loving wife, have 12 kids with her.
It's that easy.

>muh fallacy "there are people being poor How dare I make children"
There have always been poor people. There will always be poor people Even If the standards of technology will change the perception of poverty just as It already changed It.
What You do is you work for a better world.

The question is who, the answer is us, collectively. You can see we already want it

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>anyone would come to this conclusion
I wouldn't.
I find it worrying that You just assume that everyone would.
I'm just fine. You're just fine. Buy a book on permaculture, find a Good loving wife.

There are multiple axes of perfection, some mutually exclusive.

op is not mad to think humans strive towards perfection as an abstract; it is mad to think we will arrive at a singularity, and then its sugar candy nirvana IRL.

>A perfect STATE of being
Explain yourself this instant young ham.

The billions in poverty breed like pigs to die like flies.

Meanwhile, (You) are not helping the firstworld bastions of half-sanity perpetuate because of hedonist selfishness dressed as antinatalism.

I don't mind if an antinatalist doesnt breed; by definition that's a shit parent.

But you not wanting to breed because of poor millions? You're the 5% of children that believed mommy when she said if you dont clear your plate a Sudanese child somehow dies of starvation.

I dont care that you are selfish but ffs at least be honest to yourself about it.

I didn't assume that everyone naturally would at all; you ignored the actual content of what I stated: only those that look past their genetic and environmental flaws would come to the conclusion that modifying ourselves is an inescapable necessity for advancement to an objectively higher being.
over-reliance on outmoded traditions, irrational self-conceptualizations, and uncontested fears are the blocks keeping most people from understanding the reality of what we can and have to become.

I dont wait it, so zip it with 'us' shit

>I'm not saying that everyone will agree with me I'm saying that everyone SMART will agree with me *wink wink*

>Self determined evolution.
You can (and likely should given the challenges human race faces and will face in the future) guide the evolution to some extent, but conceptually the evolution will always remain blind. Humans exist in a state of Becoming (that's more or less a tautology), and Becoming implies not knowing what you become, otherwise the temporality collapses and Becoming turns into Being i.e. not existing. You may say that the future can be calculated and we (i.e. the temporal present) are exactly the process of calculating it.

>no but you are brainlet
Well done

That's not a perfect state of being

oz was a pretty good show

The 21st century is almost set. The only thing missing is for the great philosopher of transhumanism/post humanism to appear.
And the great philosopher of space travel and outer space to appear.

Then they can join nick land and ted kaznysnki as the great thinkers who will shape this century.

And for the catholic church to drop liberal modernism for cosmic futurism.

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>for the catholic church to drop liberal modernism for cosmic futurism
God I want this so badly.

...

THE WILL OF GOD EXPRESSED IN PATTERNS OF REPEATING DIGITS

>Then they can join nick land and ted kaznysnki as the great thinkers who will shape this century.

you need to turn off the computer

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Wrong. This escape this dimension, not embrace it. Once you tinker with cybernetics youll eventually end up in the virtual hell of some illuminati snuff room simulator for the next 100000 years.

That’s something Ted would say.

How much of you remains with synthetic material replacing you? You're merely hoping for an advanced wheelchair.

> the goal of humanity
If you think that "humanity" is a single group in any sense other than the biological one then you are a brainlet. The people who may or may not create the sorts of things you mentioned are going to be a bunch of Americans or chinks and the only thing they'll be serving is their corporate overlords, not "humanity".

It seems to be the only logical solution to our suffering

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Good thing Im American and trying to start a biotech company

>Yes. It implies there is a perfect state that can be rationally calculated in advance as a target. It also implies that perfection is a material possibility
Does this goal not implicitly attempt to answer these questions?

Didnt Kant believe there was an objective reality driving everything towards it

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is this what's known as the "Californian ideology"?

An Idea for Universal History With a Cosmopolitan Intent addresses the likely "cosmopolitan end-state" of humanity where human history is defined as the development of rationality itself. I don't think it's too hard to identify rationality as technological development.

Pynchon's better