Why haven't you adopted a stoic mindset yet?

Why haven't you adopted a stoic mindset yet?

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It's only useful for certain situations. It's like saying that the momentary burst of exertion that enables you to deadlift 200 pounds for a few seconds should be constantly repeated throughout the day regardless of what you are doing. Stoicism should not be a philosophy any more than erectionism or hunger or friendship should be a philosophy.

i've tried, but i'm a bit too limbic to maintain it indefinitely

Honestly solely cause I don't know what german translation to get yet of his meditations.

I choose not to.

I'm not a slave-owning homo.

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Because I don't have that retarded fro Marcus had

Not sure what you're on about, but it's pretty useful for every possible situation. At any moment, there are things in your control and there are things out of your control. Disregarding the latter is the optimal position for a good emotional life.

Are you one of those niggers that thinks stoicism is being an emotionless robot that takes up arbitrary suffering for no reason?

>typing English
>wants German translation

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good job having absolutely no reading comprehension lmao

meant for

What exactly did I misread? You didn't even check who you were replying to so it's doubtful you even comprehended either one of our posts.

i kind of have but it doesnt really help. it doesnt really bring any comfort, just resignation to the bleak circumstances

i mean aside from disregarding his entire point, nothing.

>Lol dude just be broic man
Die.

Because my favorite author was a depressed alcoholic who killed himself, and that's what I'm going for

I'm also too greedy to be indifferent to things outside the sphere of choice

Stoicism just presents an ideal with no real instruction on how to abide in those ideal states.

Are you drunk or retarded? I pretty clearly replied to his main point of it only being useful in certain situations, which is clearly wrong if you know anything about stoicism beyond a surface-level interpretation. It's such a simple doctrine and idiots still get it wrong.

are you earnest?

I think so, but I'm not sure. I feel incapable of being sincere

>Are you drunk or retarded?
you seem to be

STOICISM IS THE ETHOS OF RESIGNATION, AND OF FATALISTIC DILIGENCE —STOICISM IS THE ETHOS OF THE «SUPERFLUOUS MAN».

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You desire to LIVE "according to Nature"? Oh, you noble Stoics, what fraud of words! Imagine to yourselves a being like Nature, boundlessly extravagant, boundlessly indifferent, without purpose or consideration, without pity or justice, at once fruitful and barren and uncertain: imagine to yourselves INDIFFERENCE as a power—how COULD you live in accordance with such indifference? To live—is not that just endeavouring to be otherwise than this Nature? Is not living valuing, preferring, being unjust, being limited, endeavouring to be different? And granted that your imperative, "living according to Nature," means actually the same as "living according to life"—how could you do DIFFERENTLY? Why should you make a principle out of what you yourselves are, and must be? In reality, however, it is quite otherwise with you: while you pretend to read with rapture the canon of your law in Nature, you want something quite the contrary, you extraordinary stage-players and self-deluders! In your pride you wish to dictate your morals and ideals to Nature, to Nature herself, and to incorporate them therein; you insist that it shall be Nature "according to the Stoa," and would like everything to be made after your own image, as a vast, eternal glorification and generalism of Stoicism! With all your love for truth, you have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature FALSELY, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see it otherwise—and to crown all, some unfathomable superciliousness gives you the Bedlamite hope that BECAUSE you are able to tyrannize over yourselves—Stoicism is self-tyranny—Nature will also allow herself to be tyrannized over: is not the Stoic a PART of Nature?... But this is an old and everlasting story: what happened in old times with the Stoics still happens today, as soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima.

I apply it to whatever I like.
Sadness is rather self defeating, so I tend to use stoicism to just get over it. Cope.
I don't need it for emotions that I enjoy.
Some philosophies tend to get away from the original intent. They run off in some weird direction and forget how to live fully. Stoicism is useful at times, Vulcans are fine for Start Trek, not for humans.

Surprisingly weak criticism.

it's extremely common for people to believe things that technically are or could be under their control are out of their control. an extremely common excuse to justify a lack of effort in overcoming emotional and psychological issues, for example, "my brain's wired that way". stoicism just becomes another layer of misguided rationalization at that point.