What does starting with the greeks mean?

I haven't read any book in 10 years. Should I start with the greeks? If so, how do I do that?

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Read Complete Plato, then Aristotle duh

well a classical education was traditionally based on ancient greece (and rome) because the basis of all western education comes from greece (more specifically the iliad). so starting with the greeks would really mean read the iliad & other poems about mythology so really reading the philosophers (that people like recommend) which came much much later is probably a misunderstanding of that idea

«THE GREEKS» BEGIN WITH THE PRESOCRATIC PHILOSOPHERS, BUT PHILOSOPHY DOES NOT BEGIN WITH «THE GREEKS».

Reading 50 shades of grey will teach you more useful stuff than the greeks

the greeks are way dirtier

>Laws is like 400 pages

All The Iliad would grant you is context. The ideas given in Plato and Aristotle's work can be understood independently of most cultural knowledge (to a certain extent). Though yeah, I'd agree with you that reading up on the Pre-Socratics and the mythology does help and is enjoyable in its own right.

it means be a pederast (fuck the greeks)

If you haven't read in 10 years you shouldn't "start with the Greeks"

Nah, Illiad and Odyssey are cited and alluded to loads of times by Plato, I'd say they're necessary for a proper understanding.

THIS IS A LITURATURE FORUM NOT A PHILOSOPHY FORUM
START WITH THE GREEKS MEAN HOMER HESIOD HERODOTUS THUCYDIDES XENOPHON AECHYLUS SOPHOCLES EURIPIDES ARISTOPHANES AND LYRIC POETS

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Thank you.

You could also watch Donald Kagan's Yale lectures on ancient Greece on YouTube (to supplement not replace your reading of course)

Based. Herodotus is boring and pointless unless you study history.

Man dude, read Plato’s Laws. You are required to. It’s how you know someone isn’t a pseud. If they have done more than just read Plato’s easy shit :3

There's different interpretations on what it means to start with the greeks. The most common method presented on Yea Forums is the following.
>Mythology by Edith Hamilton
>The Illiad by Homer
>The Odyssey by Homer
>The Histories by Herodotus
>The First Philosophers by Robin Waterfield (or any collection of early greek philosophy)
>Plato's Complete Works
>Aristotle's Complete Works
You don't need Mythology but it's good for background though.
If you want to be a nerd, then check out other greek authors along the way.
>Euripides
>Sophocles
>Thucydides
>Xenophon
>Aristophanes
>Hesiod

based

People who push for 'start with the greeks' are like the bureaucrats who made sure east asia stayed backwards by forcing confucian classics onto any education. Change my mind.

my point was a classical education has nothing to do with plato & aristotle. homer is the basis of all classical greek culture, and when rome conquered greece, of all roman culture too.

Please kill yourself you utter pleb

Yeah, absolutely, but in the context of philosophy (where you'll most likely hear 'start with the greeks'), Aristotle and Plato are the guys to start with.

true, though me personally i don't like those two. and i think starting with philosophy is a mistake anyway don't you?

Yes, most people should not read philosophy at all

i don't know why anyone would