In 1950 the New York Times claimed Hemingway was the most important writer since the death of Shakespeare

This, Jesus only wrote a few words in the sand that one time but it was really good.

I just don't see the reverence

yikes what a sad little man

not NY Times— John O’Hara said that

Great story teller. Not so great of prose but that's part of the charm.

Sort of the real life art of story-telling that has since been lost.

Can someone explain Hemingway to me? I will never get the appeal.

Am I the only one who is extremly jelly of him? He was a fucking chad and like a character from an adventure book. Jesus I don't think his lifestyle will ever be topped. I am surprised we still haven't had a decent biopic movie about him.

t. Hemmingway

>le macho face
Weedy bookish sorts get to pretend to be tough guys. Like HST where weedy bookish sorts get to pretend to be wild iconoclastic hedonists

kek

Its minimalism. Everyone paints their own pictures of what his books are about.

John O’Hara said that
why did O’Hara emphasize Hemmingway’s bad eyesight?
Hemingway in Africa hunting—did he take off coke-bottle glasses before a pic was taken?

read this thread. Every impotent incel is extremely jealous of Hemingway.

He'll be discarded by the late 50's. I guess his fate is to become a sort of Kipling character

He was overrated for a long time but now he is back to being underrated I think. He represents one of two ways of writing in American literature, his is the concise, understated version and Faulkner’s is the other.

What a ludicrous exaggeration, and how turgidly American.

*blocks your path*

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because he developed arguably the first original style that separated Victorian styles of writing to the new modern style

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This

at least he was playing outside, user

A character in Kipling or like Kipling?

>"vat a ludicgus ecsagegatión, and haw tughidly Amegicán"

Faulkner beats him easy, and that's right off the top of my head

Wow ur so knowledgeable

comments like this remind me of old Yea Forums and warm my soul

That's amazing you can think of an author you like more right off the top of your head like that.

>I will never get the appeal.
Why would you care in that case, you've made up your mind.

Undeniably hard great prose. Not Joyce, but even Joyce feared that Hemingway made his (Joyce’s) books look suburban. But that’s now a criticism you can turn around on H. We’re in a more post-post-modern, Dennis cooper/Bukowski state of mind. This excludes old man and the sea of course, entirely different spirit to that gem.

Also just a reminder that no one is writing anything today.

Has Hemingway interest waned because overt masculinity isn't very on trend atm?

We've got a winner.

Apparently the two of them knew eachother. Joyce would start fights that Hemingway would finish for him.

Joyce called A Clean Well Lighted Place one of the best stories ever written

People like this are genuinely pathetic

sarcasm>ad hominem

He was right

Nerd

Anyone who thinks Hemingway was a tough macho guy has obviously read none of his work and formed their opinion based on Wikipedia articles. 50 pages into any of his books and you'll see he was as soft as a baby

I think because he was so influential a lot of people become blind to his originality, and so devoid of historical context he doesn't hold up for some people.

This, and the fact that he (and Carver) had been the be-all end-all for a lot of writing programs for decades.

I believe so.

I've seen it firsthand at mags, same w/ pub houses. Basedboys make the grade. They hate masculinity. But we push on...

So I wrote my original comment to be funny and you guys (seem like you) took it seriously and somebody came in to defend me from your criticisms.

hunter s thompson took his lifestyle times ten

Indeed. Writing in a casual, plain way was unusual at the time. We take it for granted because essentially every big American writer since the 1950s writes that way, but Hemingway was a pioneer in that style.

Considering Joyce is Shakespeare's literary successor, no.

It reminds me of people who bitch about Freud. Their strong points have been so integrated into common knowledge that at this point the only thing still uniquely theirs are the mistakes- except it's way worse with Hemingway, because while Freud made mistakes, Hemingway just might not be to everyone's taste.

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this and also sjw leaning university MFA graduates are not too big on him anymore

hemingway is one of the best storytellers of all time

>Having shot up the plumbing of the Paris Ritz with a German machine pistol (after he had decided that flushing was too good an end for a photograph of his current romantic rival),
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>Hemingway headed into battle armed with a Thompson submachine gun and two canteens; one for schnapps, the other for cognac
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>Staying in the Belgian house of priest suspected to be a German sympathiser, he takes great pleasure in drinking all the communion wine and refilling the bottles with his own urine.
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>Reportedly, he later drank one himself by mistake.
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He cultivated his image a bit user, though some of it is true. He most likely had a 3-inch penis and built up his persona to compensate for that. He literally had everything except a big weiner and it made him extremely neurotic.

>tfw when you have a relatively big penis and still neurotic as hell

Esoterically based

>he spent more time looking for, and gathering substance, instead of masterbating over form in order to satisfy the urban pseuds of future.

>Deal with him Hemmingway!

Like Kipling. Heralded in his day, generally recognized but who suffered with the passage of time, taste and politics.

And he fucked far more women with that tiny cock than you ever will.

He's still one of the most popular writers in the world

Read Kim, user.

If I wanna into Hemingway and already read The old man and the sea, should I pick a novel or buy his short stories?

The latter, or some of his journalism like the collection Death in the Afternoon.

Hahahhaha holy shit were amerisharts that fucking desperate to have a canon writer? LMAO

Most men wouldn't like to read his stories. Hemingway writes about love and passion. Especially A Farewell To Arms.

I know that feeling. I think I'd rather be a Weinstein-like overcompensating ogre, at least I wouldn't be such a fucking lazy shit.

friendly reminder, women's definition of a big penis is
youtube.com/watch?v=nA2U-IQ9z0E
56 seconds in.
Probably you do not have a noticeably big penis.

Girls cant measure cocks for shit, plus porn has tainted everyones minds about penis size.

Hahaha, no.

He made literature accessible for those who can't read, same as Orwell. I think in that sense he can be thanked for introducing a handful of people with some talent to delve into more insightful works, but I can't think of anything else. There was no particular artistry to his prose or to his storytelling.

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Fuck no, and I'm a burger. Fyodor Dostoevsky and Franz Kafka are far superior.
>he developed arguably the first original style that separated Victorian styles of writing to the new modern style
Mark Twain did that over a decade before Hemmingway was born. Hell, Hemmingway himself said that Twain was the first American writer to create a unique style that was completely separate from what the Brits were doing in the 19th century.

what's a good penis size?

But Kipling is an excellent writer. He remains one of the greatest short story writers.

Whatever you can get in.

Oh I agree.

He had more wives than I'd like to have too. I'm not saying I don't like him, I've read 4 of his novels and most of his short stories. Hemingway is great (although not my #1). But he definitely had a small wiener, that's what The Sun Also Rises is, he just changed small penis to no penis. He had some definite weird sexual stuff going on, maybe cross-dressing, maybe just wanting him and his partners to look so alike like they were one person. I still think he's good though.

My MFA cohort was all big on him. Even the feminists etc

Idolizing machismo is part of his persona though

His contemporaries were already doing that in shoddy pulps.

>caring what women think of your penis
dick sizes are for brothers and men alone

>Mark Twain did that
Maybe so, and maybe H said as much, but Sherwood Anderson was (as Harold Bloom would say) his 'great original'